come on united!

[Guy Incognito]

Getting very nervous now. Am quietly confident we will get a result in the nou camp but you never know. I have been in great mood since riise's own goal last night.

Come on united.

[Planetary]

GOT ON DA BUS WI'ME DAY SAVA, SMOKE THE REEFA IN THE CORNA, LAY LOW, DID A GRAND THEFT AUTA.

I have been in great mood since Wolves' 3-0 win last night.

[Lex Diamonds]

I'm apprehensive too, but I do agree that we can do it. No Messi, an underperforming Henry and a dropped Ronaldinho; this is the weakest Barcelona team for a while and we have a good chance of putting a few away goals past them.

Either way I'm hoping for a good match, I've always liked Barcelona. If we don't win it we will school them in Trafford so I'm not too worried about losing by one goal or so.

[abcdefz]

I thought you were cheering on the troubled American airline. :(

[Planetary]

FUCK AMERICA :@

[roosta]

yeah, Im looking forward to this. Should be better than last nights.

Its definitely the best possible year in a long time for United to go all the way. Barca dont look their best at all.

As an Arsenal fan im hoping thierry scores 7 million goals.

[abcdefz]

FUCK AMERICA :@



We take care of our own.

[Planetary]

We take care of our own.

Whatever egg head.

[Freebasser]

Every single time I say we're going to definitely win (which I don't say more than 3 or 4 times a season because this club always do things the hard way) we always fucking lose.

Therefore, even though I have a good feeling about tonight, I'm going to predict a 4-0 loss for us, in the hope that we'll win.

Park marking Messi :/

[abcdefz]

Whatever egg head.



It's a gourd. :(

[roosta]

Barca looking good.

Swan song of a dieing team?

[Lex Diamonds]

0-0

[Guy Incognito]

it was shit. not that bothered about the penalty miss but would have been nice to get an early lead. we couldnt string 3 passes together and barca werent ruthless enough.
Its anyone's still. Am a bit worried they are gonna defend in numbers and try and hit us on the break. We have been beaten before when we had a goalless draw in the away leg. Remember Porto and monaco.

[roosta]

If that was (as the papers were touting it) the show down to see who was the best player in the world, Messi or Ronaldo then Messi got it.

Ronnie wasn't at the races at all. Rooney was out of position and out of sorts. Defensively they held up well though.

[Planetary]

Ronaldo never turns up for the big games.

[discopants]

It pissed me off a few weeks back when Ferguson said that Ronaldo needs protection - hang on, doesn't football need protection from Ronaldo- its his cheating and diving thats fucking up the game. Plus its Drogba as well that stupid son of a bitch was going down in the centre circle when the Chelsea Globetrotters were 1-0 down. While I'm at it whats with all this fucking 4-5-1 and swamping the midfielf - Chelsea had Lampard, Ballack and the other one, Essien or Makele i forget which and they spent the entire match tripping on each others fucking toes. These fucking teams too shit scared to actually try and win a game so they pretend to be Italians. I hope Barcelona'll win it to shut up the scousers, the pikeys and the chelsea tourists. Two of em are owned by yanks anyway, whats it fucking come to?

[checkyourprez]

"best team in the world"-35% possession.


"best player in the world"-missed penal and invisible for the game.


(y)

[Guy Incognito]

best team in world - didnt concede a goal or get in much trouble kept clean sheet, great chance of going thru to final. barca had all the posession but a lot of was in "safe" areas and we were happy to let them have it there. We did great at winning ball back but kept giving it them back too soon.

best player in world - what dont kill you will only make you stronger. should have had another penalty.

Defence played really well, especially Evra
I think the midfield and attack were given a specific job to do and didnt do it too badly but passing was a bit off. 0-0 not greatest result but it will be a totally different team and performance.
And as for messi being better player - he only played for an hour and didnt too much - one decent piece of skill. that doesnt justify anything.
Penalty, first minute, 100,000 fans, euro semi final. Anybody would have been brickin it there. I wont hold it against him if we dont get thru.
Everybody was under par from both sides.

[roosta]

Did Valdez have to make a single save?

Scholes was the only person really playing well.

[Lex Diamonds]

I've always maintained that Cristiano doesn't have enough experience at the top level to take the pressure in these games. Fergie should have realised this, not put him right up front on his own, out of his usual position and burdened with extra pressure to attack. Switch Rooney and Ronaldo (including for the penalty) and you would have seen a much calmer, more fluid game with a possible win for us.

Saying that, Brown did very well in the middle and Hargreaves continued to show he's the most versatile player we have. His attacking effort the other weekend was amazing, and a big surprise for me.

[checkyourprez]

i dont get putting ronaldo up top by himself.

than making tevez and rooney play almost as wide mids and almost backs at times.

well i mean i do, he wasnt trying to loose, but at the same time, your supposed to be the best team in the world come on now...:rolleyes:


messi only playing for 60 mins isnt shocking. hes just coming back from injury. still not match fit. another week should do him good.

henry should have played from the beginning. and bojan should have gotten more time. barca definatly did not do enough with their possession. but come on, just because your on the road you totally pack it in and just sit back for 90 mins?? i dont know much...

[Guy Incognito]

i dont get putting ronaldo up top by himself.

than making tevez and rooney play almost as wide mids and almost backs at times.

well i mean i do, he wasnt trying to loose, but at the same time, your supposed to be the best team in the world come on now...:rolleyes:


messi only playing for 60 mins isnt shocking. hes just coming back from injury. still not match fit. another week should do him good.

henry should have played from the beginning. and bojan should have gotten more time. barca definatly did not do enough with their possession. but come on, just because your on the road you totally pack it in and just sit back for 90 mins?? i dont know much...

i see your points but your wrong:p

its a fair enough gamble to put the scorer of 38 goals this season up front and rooney on the wing. wayne's played there a bit and works hard. we managed to contain them and put is in a strong position at OT. It wasnt totally packing in. If we had passed the ball better we could have created a few more chances, i think that was the strategy it just didnt work out that way.

[icy manipulator]

i really haven't followed any football in the last year.i went to an A League game about 6 months ago, which was good for a laugh. anyone know who's winning the fantasy football thingy atm? am i coming dead last?

[checkyourprez]

ze german makes the title race very interesting.


i put all the praise on avram grant...manager of the year.

[Guy Incognito]

am still confident - chelsea have to beat newcastle away - not easy.

we should do it but we werent great today - wrong team selection and a bit of bad luck but its the first penalty in the league against us this season so i cant complain - thought we were gonna scrape a draw. never mind. i think we will do the biz on tuesday.

[Freebasser]

I'm having very vivid memories of drawing against The Hammers on the last day of the season in 1994-95.

Very. Vivid. Memories.

We're supposed to be one of the best attacking sides in the world (and on our day, I'd say we are) but we've gone out to draw at best in our last 2 fixtures, and we haven't put in a good performance since we beat Liverpool! :(

I can easily see us failing to pick up 3 points at West Ham and losing to Barca on away goals. Fucking fuck! What the fuck is Ferguson playing at? :mad:

[Guy Incognito]

I'm having very vivid memories of drawing against The Hammers on the last day of the season in 1994-95.

Very. Vivid. Memories.

We're supposed to be one of the best attacking sides in the world (and on our day, I'd say we are) but we've gone out to draw at best in our last 2 fixtures, and we haven't put in a good performance since we beat Liverpool! :(

I can easily see us failing to pick up 3 points at West Ham and losing to Barca on away goals. Fucking fuck! What the fuck is Ferguson playing at? :mad:

West Ham? Lets face it, we are due a win against them, they have won the last 4 against us. That was a bad , bad day in 95 but i'm fully behind the lightning stiking theory on that one. Plus its our last home game. I think we will be too strong for them. Seriously, can we have a smiley for fingers crossed?

Fergie? He wants to win the champions league more. I dont think its a good way to treat it. He's better off goin for it and try and keep up the morale and belief a la 1999. Its gonna be an arse twitcher on Tuesday.

And Freebasser? You put the mockers on the whole thing before kick off! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1578816&postcount=11) :p

[Lex Diamonds]

I'm feeling uneasy about all this. A week ago I thought the title was in the bag and we were on the way to a European final. I was so screwing when I watched MOTD last night, typical Chelsea bullshit. Dodgy penalty decisions, poor linesman work, Drogba on the floor every 10 seconds then spitting the dummy when a decision doesn't go his way.

I was watching with a few mates and this one girl went "Why are all the Chelsea players fighting each other, they're on the same team AND they're winning?!" to which my reply was "Because they're all selfish cunts who love nothing but money". I think that little exchange sums up the club pretty well, and outlines how much English football NEEDS the proud, courageous reds to win the league.

If you are a Chelsea fan then feel ashamed, for you and your team are top cunts.

[checkyourprez]

chelsea needs to win to prove jose` is nothing but an air bag and avram grant is the god manager.

plus man u is full of cunts, think they are always the best team in the world. pffff, ninja please.

[Lex Diamonds]

That's because we ARE the greatest club in the world, my ninja. Real Talk.

[Junker]

How ManU could lose to such a horrible team as Chelsea?
Damn!!!!

[TimDoolan]

I thought you were cheering on the troubled American airline. :(

Here's an incredible 70's commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeXrMRf25U8 Hot stewardess gearing up for her flight and singing.

[Guy Incognito]

Come on! I havent been able to concentrate on anything today cos i am too nervous about tonights game. My head has completely gone! I think we will just shade it but every other united fan i have spoke too today is less than confident. All this negativity is not doing my nerves any good.
We havent played well for about 5 games so we have to put a performance in tonight otherwise i think its curtains for us in both competitons.
Anyway, everything crossed and freebasser please dont jinx us like you did on saturday.

COME ON UNITED!

[Freebasser]

I say we're going to win and we lose.

I say we're going to lose... and we lose.

So, um... *keeps schtum* :Z

[Guy Incognito]

I say we're going to win and we lose.

I say we're going to lose... and we lose.

So, um... *keeps schtum* :Z

i can see your dilemma and i think you have chosen right course of action.(y)

It is officially SQUEAKY BUM TIME!

i cant fuckin bear this - ima gonna take the dog for a walk and come back in time for the match and prolly have about 6 heart attacks before half time!

[Freebasser]

He scores goals galore
He scores goals (well, not as many as he used to)
He scores goals galore
He scores goals (well, not as many as he used to)
He scores goals galore
He scores goals (well, not as many as he used to)
PAUL SCHOLES
HE SCORES MOTHERFUCKING GOALS!!!!

[paul jones]

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brown,Tevez and Park played a fucking blinder

I'd let them bum me if I was gay

[dave790]

what a goal from the ginger ninja!

[roosta]

Barca were so disappointing. They were completely limp in the box, none of them wanted to pull the trigger.

Ronaldo, also, has gone off the boil.

[Junker]

It's always nice to see Messi playing. The boy is amazing. Fast moves and determination. Unfortunately he had to play all alone.

On Man U side, the entire team played fucking well.
When Tevez plays it seems his possessed. He runs all the time and is always fighting for the ball. Park did a great job defending and attacking. Scholes scored a magnificent goal. Brown and Ferdinand back there are impassable. And Ronaldo.... Well.... Ronaldo doesnt need any comments. He's always great.

Manchester United > Chelsea or Liverpool

[paul jones]

did anyone notice in the crowd that man utd fan with the hobbit hairstyle?

[Gareth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H548YEfbO-k

[Drederick Tatum]

great ad. lol Materazzi punching him in the head.

I expect Jesse Hughes got a lot of money for that commercial.

[roosta]

yeah, its a great ad.

Theres a longer version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwlpTgbQTE&feature=related)where Fabregas also berates the camera/person/you for making a mistake.

I dont like the fact that Man U get to score against the Arse in it.

Or that it also shows Inter and Barca merking us too.

We're good sports i guess.

Also, in reality, right after Ronaldo blew a kiss at an Arsenal player, said Arsenal player would have kicked him right in the shins.

They shoulda shown that.

[Guy Incognito]

fucking yes!

what a great game, evrybody played well, both sides. Messi is somethin else but Wes Brown did a great job looking after him.
Tevez was awesome but great team performance - am made up for scholesy, i doubt fergie will play him in the league now.
Although Liverpool are slighly weaker team, I dont want to play them in final cos if we lose to the mickeys its going to be unbearable where i work.

[checkyourprez]

COME ON BLUES!!!!


(n) MAN YOU IS GOING DOWN (n)



AVRAM THE GOD GRANT TO LEAD THE BLUES TO GLORY THAT JOSE NEVER COULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[b i o n i c]

TEVEZ AND MESSI ARE MY NIGGAZ

PROPS ARGENTINA, SOCCER GENIUS FARM


ARGENTINA!
ARGENTINA!
ARGENTINA!


TEVEZ is my main dude on FIFA 08 on ps3

[roosta]

Man U - Liverpool would have been epic....

BUT

No one can call this final. Could go anyway.

[camo]

I was looking forward to a manc - scouse final. It would have been bragging rights for life after stuffing them.

[Lex Diamonds]

I was looking forward to a manc - scouse final. It would have been bragging rights for life after stuffing them.
Same. Plus where I live (southwest London) every wannabe badboy wanker supports Chelsea. They all came out of the woodwork about 3 years ago, seriously I know pricks who started claiming they were lifelong fans in the Mourinho era. I have to watch United Chelsea matches surrounded by these cunts.

[Guy Incognito]

I was looking forward to a manc - scouse final. It would have been bragging rights for life after stuffing them.

There is no way my heart rate would have coped with three weeks of anticipation and piss taking if the mickeys got to the final. I know we are better team but they are stuffy bastards when it comes to the european cup and i think it will better final with chelsea, we owe them one and i do believe that they are the best 2 teams in europe.
Expect a lot of shenanigans re: travel arrangements and when both sets of fans are in moscow. it could go off massively, hope not.

[Drederick Tatum]

why exactly does Dirk Kuyt play in a top Premiership team? I've seen centre-backs with better technique than him. jesus, he's useless as a striker and even worse as a winger. not to mention he's bordering on repulsively ugly. Babel should've been on from the start.

[camo]

why exactly does Dirk Kuyt play in a top Premiership team? I've seen centre-backs with better technique than him. jesus, he's useless as a striker and even worse as a winger. not to mention he's bordering on repulsively ugly. Babel should've been on from the start.

He's a big deal back in Holland. He performed a lot better there.

[Freebasser]

BIG PUSH today, gents.

If we can beat West Ham (Bogerificus Bastardus Maximus) then we have a fantastic chance of winning this thing. All hands t' pump!

[na§tee]

okay okay, apparently we are going down to the bookies today and i need to put on a couple of bets.

i'm not predicting by how many goals someone wins, or who gets the first goal, or what prostitutes the players sleep with or anything, just win/lose/draw status. ranald's saying it's a "weekend coupon".. or something.

so since i know nothing about football, please can some people predict who is going to win/lose/draw in these premiership games so i can win some money kthanx. or i will go with my current predictions based on not much, which are:

Saturday, 03 May 2008
Aston Villa v Wigan, 15:00 (aston villa win)
Blackburn v Derby, 15:00 (blackburn win)
Bolton v Sunderland, 17:15 (sunderland win)
Fulham v Birmingham, 15:00 (draw)
Man Utd v West Ham, 12:45 (man utd win)
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth, 15:00 (portsmouth win)
Reading v Tottenham, 15:00 (tottenham win)

Sunday, 04 May 2008
Arsenal v Everton, 13:30 (draw)
Liverpool v Man City, 16:00 (liverpool)

[camo]

Saturday, 03 May 2008
Aston Villa v Wigan, 15:00 Villa
Blackburn v Derby, 15:00 Blackburn
Bolton v Sunderland, 17:15 Bolton
Fulham v Birmingham, 15:00 Birmingham
Man Utd v West Ham, 12:45 Man Yoo
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth, 15:00 Middlesborough (tough call)
Reading v Tottenham, 15:00 Spurs

Sunday, 04 May 2008
Arsenal v Everton, 13:30 Arsenal
Liverpool v Man City, 16:00 Liverpool

[Freebasser]

Saturday, 03 May 2008
Aston Villa v Wigan, 15:00 Aston Villa
Blackburn v Derby, 15:00 Blackburn
Bolton v Sunderland, 17:15 Draw
Fulham v Birmingham, 15:00 Birmingham
Man Utd v West Ham, 12:45 Man Utd (but I fear the reaper :( )
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth, 15:00 Portsmouth
Reading v Tottenham, 15:00 Spurs with a scrappy win or a boring scrappy draw. Can't decide.

Sunday, 04 May 2008
Arsenal v Everton, 13:30 Arsenal. Just.
Liverpool v Man City, 16:00 Draw

[Guy Incognito]

Saturday, 03 May 2008
Aston Villa v Wigan, 15:00 (aston villa win) YES
Blackburn v Derby, 15:00 (blackburn win) YES
Bolton v Sunderland, 17:15 (sunderland win) BOLTON WIN - they need the points more!
Fulham v Birmingham, 15:00 (draw) Fulham win - they are on a roll (sort of)
Man Utd v West Ham, 12:45 (man utd win) Man u win
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth, 15:00 (portsmouth win) DRAW
Reading v Tottenham, 15:00 (tottenham win) DRAW

Sunday, 04 May 2008
Arsenal v Everton, 13:30 (draw) WIN
Liverpool v Man City, 16:00 (liverpool)LIVERPOOL Win.

[roosta]

Arsenal v Everton, 13:30 (draw) WIN

Draw....WIN?

[Guy Incognito]

Draw....WIN?

Doh! - i think the gooners are gonna win, unfortunately.

[na§tee]

i put an accumulator down for these games:

arsenal WIN
aston villa WIN
blackburn WIN (plllleeeeease score!)
man utd WIN
spurs WIN
inverness (ha ha) WIN

cmon cmon cmoooon.

erm. i would get £33.98 back for my troubles, ahaha. pennies.

ranald on the other hand.. would get £319.08 for his bets. yikes.

[Guy Incognito]

i put an accumulator down for these games:

arsenal WIN
aston villa WIN
blackburn WIN (plllleeeeease score!)
man utd WIN
spurs WIN
inverness (ha ha) WIN

cmon cmon cmoooon.

erm. i would get £33.98 back for my troubles, ahaha. pennies.

ranald on the other hand.. would get £319.08 for his bets. yikes.

unlucky . wigan beat villa at home. who would've thunk it?

united were quality.

[Nygel]

united is gay




deal with it, fagnoldo had to hire people to fuck em.... i bet they were dudes.

[Freebasser]

OMG FAGNALDO LOLZ.

Are you a twelve year old? If not, then please stop talking like one. It really makes you look like a twat.

Thanks (y)

[camo]

united is gay




deal with it, fagnoldo had to hire people to fuck em.... i bet they were dudes.

you'd probably take a shot in the arse for a player like ronny to play for your team

[Guy Incognito]

united is gay




deal with it, fagnoldo had to hire people to fuck em.... i bet they were dudes.

I know Freebasser has kind of summed up what i am going to say, but i am going to say it anyway.
I am in danger of sounding like me dad here but this thread is called on "come on united" so its a thread encouraging Manchester United thru the end of this season to some silverware (AGAIN, I NEED A FINGERS CROSSED SMILEY) . It can also be used to talk about football in general and people trade opinions etc. This is good.

Now I am not averse to a bit of healthy rivalry and amusing banter even if its against man u but this is just piss poor. More originality and maturity required.

Out of interest Nygel, what team do you support? In fact while i am on the subject, what team do the rest of you support, i know a few but some i am not sure of.

[dave790]

We'll never die! You're an idiot, Nygel.

dave

[na§tee]

yeah, i didn't get my 30 bucks : ( it was fun being in a bookies though. it stays open until 9.30pm. you can be friendless and moneyless but warm in ladbrokes all night! drinking red bull and crappy coffee! wahoo!

god damned wigan and wigan..ers.

[Guy Incognito]

god damned wigan and wigan..ers.

Pie Eaters!

[paul jones]

come on Geordies!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nygel]

haha, i said fag so you all jumped on me. Both Ronaldos pay for sex, which is funny. Either way, no, I wouldn't take it from the lumberjack Rooney, he's the best English player, I'll give him that. Too bad he's still mediocre compared to the solid foreign influence in the EPL. Man Utd's a great team, I just hate supporting teams that are full of douchebags and the manager is a bitch. "Oh wow, Sir Alex is so great, he knows that team so well" no shit, he's been there half his life. ANY manager in one place for that long will have a solid team, even Glenn bumfuck Roeder. I hate saying who I support, because no matter what I'll get some shit for it, Newcastle and Juventus. So go ahead and throw me some jabs about Newcastle not winning a trophy in a lifetime and Juventus getting caught in a cheating scandal. Nothing I havent heard before.

Really, Man Utd aint shabby, its just Rooney is losing his spark (wonderkid away) and Ronaldo and Nani are both Portuguese bitches. They both dive and look like they're about to cry when they dont get the right call. Also Anderson is shit too, all he does is grab shirts and then acts like he didnt when he gets called. Though I like the rest.

[Lex Diamonds]

You have no right to comment on the greatest club in the world when you refer to the Premiership as the "EPL" and support two teams just because their kit is the same. Get the fuck out of this thread and don't ever disrespect Sir Alex Ferguson again.

[Guy Incognito]

^ :D(y)

Well Nygels team didnt do us a favour today. Oh well we should do it at wigan but they are playing really well at the mo.
Nygel - i took your jibes about our playing staff on the chin but what you said about fergie was total balls.

[Nygel]

so i cant refer to barclay's as teh epl? wtf. even the fuckin commentators say that.
And yeah, i totally support castle and juve due to their kits, solely.
United is going to win, i know they are, i dont really care. I'll never support them, unless they are underdogs. But I doubt they'll continue dominance next season. If Arsenal would drop some money on ANYONE (nasri?) they'll do great, but right now they need more depth. And champions league is just a fail. I totally want to see english teams in the final....

go man utd.

[Guy Incognito]

so i cant refer to barclay's as teh epl? wtf. even the fuckin commentators say that.
And yeah, i totally support castle and juve due to their kits, solely.
United is going to win, i know they are, i dont really care. I'll never support them, unless they are underdogs. But I doubt they'll continue dominance next season. If Arsenal would drop some money on ANYONE (nasri?) they'll do great, but right now they need more depth. And champions league is just a fail. I totally want to see english teams in the final....

go man utd.

Its THE PREMIER LEAGUE, thats it, no abbreviations no sponsors just the premier league.
If you like black and white kits then Notts county should be your team of choice - thats where Juventus got their strip from. Fact!
I think you missed the point, its not that we mind you having a go at united as long as its not total bullshit and misinformed statements which is pretty much the content of all your above posts. Thanks for playing.

[Planetary]

I hate Man Utd just as much as the next average football fan, but nygel shut up you're making an idiot out of yourself.

[Nygel]

you guys are right, i dont know shit about man utd, im just trollin


fuck, try not to take the bait next time.


Though anyone who dropped as much money for Hargreaves as they did should be shot.

[Planetary]

SHUT UP FOR FUCKS SAKE

[Nygel]

jesus christ planetary, how bout you settle the fuck down. the hargreaves thing is a valid fuckin opinion. I've toned down the trollin, fucking conversationalize.

[checkyourprez]

The Serie A is the Serie A. The Bundesliga is the Bundesliga. La Liga is la Liga


The Premiership is called the BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE.


Most embarrassing.


Just because you brits sold your souls, your league, and your teams, you can't turn around and say you didn't. Because ya did.

[Guy Incognito]

The Serie A is the Serie A. The Bundesliga is the Bundesliga. La Liga is la Liga


The Premiership is called the BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE.


Most embarrassing.


Just because you brits sold your souls, your league, and your teams, you can't turn around and say you didn't. Because ya did.

Dude, i dont know one football fan who calls it the barclays premier league. And besides money talks, there isnt a lot you or I can do about it.

[TAL]

Serie A (officially known as the Lega Calcio Serie A TIM for sponsorship reasons)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A

[Nygel]

All the leagues below Barclay's are Coca-Cola too. I never realized that they were the only ones with sponsor names.

[roosta]

I dont give a fuck if you call it the Premier, EPL, Premiership, Barclays, Barclaycard or Old First Division.

Seriously, who cares what someone calls it.

[Nygel]

I dont give a fuck if you call it the Premier, EPL, Premiership, Barclays, Barclaycard or Old First Division.

Seriously, who cares what someone calls it.

You have no right to comment on the greatest club in the world when you refer to the Premiership as the "EPL"
Its THE PREMIER LEAGUE, thats it, no abbreviations no sponsors just the premier league.

these peoples

[Guy Incognito]

^ whatever Nygel- your team only has a chance of winning the milk cup and a chance of getting into the fairs cup thru the inter -two -bob cup.

Its nice to see Wigan have sorted their pitch out for sunday. Getting very nervous now. It should be ok tho'.

And just a quick word on whats happening at manchester city this week. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha.

[camo]

The Serie A is the Serie A. The Bundesliga is the Bundesliga. La Liga is la Liga


The Premiership is called the BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE.


Most embarrassing.


Just because you brits sold your souls, your league, and your teams, you can't turn around and say you didn't. Because ya did.

ahem don't you guys have stadiums named ...'American Airlines Arena, Bank of America Stadium, Staples Center, Tropicana Field... Tropicana Field? Thats just poor.

I couldn't give a shit if is was called 'The Mcdonalds Pink Fairy Bum Fluff Super Duper Extra Fantastic League'. It's still the best league in the World.

[checkyourprez]

ahem don't you guys have stadiums named ...'American Airlines Arena, Bank of America Stadium, Staples Center, Tropicana Field... Tropicana Field? Thats just poor.

I couldn't give a shit if is was called 'The Mcdonalds Pink Fairy Bum Fluff Super Duper Extra Fantastic League'. It's still the best league in the World.


Uhh are you talking about American statdiums? For gay sports, for gay teams I could give a shit about?


I am a Milanista through and through. I live, breath, sleep football. Real football.

I am just saying, england is selling its soul concerning football.

[camo]

Uhh are you talking about American statdiums? For gay sports, for gay teams I could give a shit about?


I am a Milanista through and through. I live, breath, sleep football. Real football.

I am just saying, england is selling its soul concerning football.

My bad, I thought you were american.

You tell that to some shirtless season ticket holding geordie freezing his tits off at st james park whilst his beloved team are down 4 nil. Then see if an english supporter has his/her soul.

I don't think that we have been selling our souls, I can't help it if United is owned by an american and the league is sponsored by a bank. It's still excellent footy week in week out.

Besides how does being a Milan fan constitute to real football? Serie A is a boring league with really slow boring football and I'm sure many will agree with that.

[Planetary]

Yeah Serie A is pretty boring. they have it on here on sundays now.

[Planetary]

jesus christ planetary, how bout you settle the fuck down. the hargreaves thing is a valid fuckin opinion. I've toned down the trollin, fucking conversationalize.

Q.Q

[Nygel]

dunno what that means, but incognito. Maybe you can focus on the team I truly support. Juve. Yeah, they've done pretty well I've heard :p

Newcastle is my underdog team. I hate supporting a team that is guaranteed to win. (now someone make a joke about how I MUST love supporting them cuz they never win. It's not like I support Derby or something)

Also, EPL is great, I'm not going to lie. But Italy and Spain play the best football. They play the beautiful game. England stars look down when they run and just bounce of players. Its a few steps away from American football. Skill is possessed in Italy and Spain. Though since for some reason English teams have all the money, they buy those talents from the other countries. Which is why their own home bred players are a little ... well... shitty compared to the rest. WC and Euro's confirm this. Though I do agree EPL is rockin it as far as best teams. They're are the teams that arent really contenders for the title (Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, Man City, etc.) that are still teams with great players. In all other leagues, they have 2-3 top teams, while England has many.

[Planetary]

dunno what that means, but incognito. Maybe you can focus on the team I truly support. Juve. Yeah, they've done pretty well I've heard :p

Newcastle is my underdog team. I hate supporting a team that is guaranteed to win. (now someone make a joke about how I MUST love supporting them cuz they never win. It's not like I support Derby or something)

Also, EPL is great, I'm not going to lie. But Italy and Spain play the best football. They play the beautiful game. England stars look down when they run and just bounce of players. Its a few steps away from American football. Skill is possessed in Italy and Spain. Though since for some reason English teams have all the money, they buy those talents from the other countries. Which is why their own home bred players are a little ... well... shitty compared to the rest. WC and Euro's confirm this. Though I do agree EPL is rockin it as far as best teams. They're are the teams that arent really contenders for the title (Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, Man City, etc.) that are still teams with great players. In all other leagues, they have 2-3 top teams, while England has many.

No team is guaranteed to win. and yeah they play the beautiful game at a slow boring pace against shitty teams :)

[checkyourprez]

No team is guaranteed to win. and yeah they play the beautiful game at a slow boring pace against shitty teams :)


be serious.

spain's top 7 teams are all good. and even the couple under that arent too bad. same thing with italy to a slightly lesser extent.


the BPL's top teams are just so ridiculously stacked that its not even fair. and i dont see arsenal challenging next year loosing these players. and liverpool is always shit in the league. so that realistically leaves 2 teams playing for the title. thats pretty gay. plus the top 4 is ALWAYS the same.


spains is always changing. italy has a really good race going for the 4 spot between 3 teams.

[Nygel]

whats the top 7 teams of Spain? ( I don't get to see them play often, so all I am familiar with are Barca and Madrid. Seville Villareal and Atletico are the only other three i really know much about.)

And Arsenal I believe will do well next year, they were doing well this year until lately, then they fell apart unfortunately. But they are going to actually BUY this summer. Ben Arfa or Nasri will be a gunner next year me thinks.

[roosta]

Hleb is not a massive loss- he gave us what, half a good season.

Flamini is a loss - but also, he gave us one good season.

I dont see them as major blows. Pretty dissapointing with Flamini though, we made him.

[Nygel]

http://www.lep.co.uk/national-football/Arsenal-win-race-for-16m.4070456.jp
it originates from the sun though, so who knows.

Ben Arfa - Arsenal for £16m

[Planetary]

Hleb is not a massive loss- he gave us what, half a good season.

Flamini is a loss - but also, he gave us one good season.

I dont see them as major blows. Pretty dissapointing with Flamini though, we made him.

Not having Hleb is a real loss IMO. His style of play and dribbling skills are an integral part of arsenal's style. Flamini is a shame cause i like him but hes not an irreplaceable player.

Has Hleb actually gone yet?

Also i reckon Pavel Nedved would be a good free signing for arsenal (y)

[Nygel]

Hleb hasnt gone anywhere yet. I think he'll stay. Nedved is a bit too old for Wenger's ways I believe. Nedved will however not be with Juve next season, he hasnt signed a new contract and they really don't have a use for him. Some Japanese or Korean league has been trying for him lately though.

[Guy Incognito]

didnt rate benarfa when he played for lyon against man u. Benzema on the other hand looks the nuts.

The premier league is dominated by a couple of teams but - the fact that the rest of the league is so strong means that anybody can beat anybody on their day which is why its always so close. Granted, its the same teams at the top but the overall standard is higher than spain or italy.

I am only going to say one more thing in this thread until 5pm and that is:

COME ON UNITED!

[synch]

Not having Hleb is a real loss IMO. His style of play and dribbling skills are an integral part of arsenal's style. Flamini is a shame cause i like him but hes not an irreplaceable player.

Has Hleb actually gone yet?

Also i reckon Pavel Nedved would be a good free signing for arsenal (y)Hleb's agent was pretty clear about the fact that he's leaving after this season. Anything can happen of course...

Oh and Come on Chelsea!

[dave790]

you guys are right, i dont know shit about man utd, im just trollin


fuck, try not to take the bait next time.


Though anyone who dropped as much money for Hargreaves as they did should be shot.


Don't back down, there was no bait. You were just digging a hole for yourself. it takes a real football fan to see the quality of Hargreaves. You have no idea. The guy is the best defensive midfilder in the world. Did you see the away game at Liverpool? Him, and Anderson for that matter, bossed it entirely - Gerrard didn't see the ball.

Man United have been solid this year. The two best centre backs in Europe - possibly the world, and Wes Brown is absolutely no nonsense. You've got the youth of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez - the latter two play like absolute lions and are unbelievably selfless in their play. They learn from the likes of Scholes and Giggs who have shown their experiance and worth in the last 3 weeks yet alone their entire careers.

How anyone can truly support two teams is beyond me. How can you support a team that isn't even in your country?

Man United - Champions, and deservedly so.

[checkyourprez]

Don't back down, there was no bait. You were just digging a hole for yourself. it takes a real football fan to see the quality of Hargreaves. You have no idea. The guy is the best defensive midfilder in the world. Did you see the away game at Liverpool? Him, and Anderson for that matter, bossed it entirely - Gerrard didn't see the ball.

Man United have been solid this year. The two best centre backs in Europe - possibly the world, and Wes Brown is absolutely no nonsense. You've got the youth of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez - the latter two play like absolute lions and are unbelievably selfless in their play. They learn from the likes of Scholes and Giggs who have shown their experiance and worth in the last 3 weeks yet alone their entire careers.

How anyone can truly support two teams is beyond me. How can you support a team that isn't even in your country?

Man United - Champions, and deservedly so.


It takes a blind Man U fan to make that first bolded statement.

He doesn't even hold down a starting position, how can you make that claim?



And Rio is not even close to being a top in the world center back. Hes up there, but not at the top by any means. Nesta is hands down better than both of them.

[Freebasser]

Just been sitting on a packed train for 3 hours with a bunch of Bolton fans singing Munich songs at full blast, banging on the backs of chairs, insulting the ticket guy for asking them to sit down, etc.

Fun >:/

Ah well, we won the league, and on points too. Good stuff (y)

[dave790]

It takes a blind Man U fan to make that first bolded statement.

He doesn't even hold down a starting position, how can you make that claim?



And Rio is not even close to being a top in the world center back. Hes up there, but not at the top by any means. Nesta is hands down better than both of them.

I can make that claim as you do not need a defensive, holding midfield player in every type of game, hence you don't need him to start. I have watched the man play live several times. I'm a fan of Owen Hargreaves, I think he is underrated - the guy filled in at right back and did a superb job in 2 of the most important games of this season (Barca home and away). When he plays in midfield, he bosses it. He's hardly the biggest looking bloke, yet he cleanly knocks anyone off the ball with apparent ease. He does the dirty-work, which to the untrained football eye, goes unnoticed. You are a prime example.

You've contradicted yourself by saying rio is up there but not even close to being top. Which one is it? Tell me a more consistent centre back this season in their respective league and in European competition?

Call me a blind Man United fan all you want - I don't give a toss. I'll happily share my opinion that Nani is a waste of time. He gives the ball away cheaply and his attitude seems to need a lot of work. Ronaldo's attitude can get on my nerves too... Probably because I admire the likes of Giggs so much and have grown up doing so - honest players who are real pro's. Having said that, the majority of times Ronaldo genuinely gets fouled. I think Louis Saha has got to be replaced.

If i was a blind Man U fan, I'd refuse to see or contemplate problems with any players. So fuck off.

[dave790]

Just been sitting on a packed train for 3 hours with a bunch of Bolton fans singing Munich songs at full blast, banging on the backs of chairs, insulting the ticket guy for asking them to sit down, etc.

Fun >:/

Ah well, we won the league, and on points too. Good stuff (y)

Speaking of fans standing during games... I adore the way united fans just downright refuse to sit down, despite officials complaints/threats made by other teams etc. I've been to a few away games this year - not a single away United fan sitting down or not singing.

The version of Ryan Giggs Running Down the Wing was one of the best things I've seen and heard this season United-affiliated. It was deafening even on the telly!

[Nygel]

Jesus Christ dave, this is why i don't talk to man utd fans. Its like talkign to a dumbass football fan here in teh states. Hargreaves has a surprise free kick. That's it. Better than ronaldos, but he's just over rated.

REAL STORY THAT NO ONE SAW COMING

MBorough 8 -Man City 1

makes me laugh.

OH YEAH.

sorry to see your team go down Dave (your location team, not you supporting team) Didn't they finish 8th last season? That's a bitch.

[checkyourprez]

I can make that claim as you do not need a defensive, holding midfield player in every type of game, hence you don't need him to start. I have watched the man play live several times. I'm a fan of Owen Hargreaves, I think he is underrated - the guy filled in at right back and did a superb job in 2 of the most important games of this season (Barca home and away). When he plays in midfield, he bosses it. He's hardly the biggest looking bloke, yet he cleanly knocks anyone off the ball with apparent ease. He does the dirty-work, which to the untrained football eye, goes unnoticed. You are a prime example.

You've contradicted yourself by saying rio is up there but not even close to being top. Which one is it? Tell me a more consistent centre back this season in their respective league and in European competition?

Call me a blind Man United fan all you want - I don't give a toss. I'll happily share my opinion that Nani is a waste of time. He gives the ball away cheaply and his attitude seems to need a lot of work. Ronaldo's attitude can get on my nerves too... Probably because I admire the likes of Giggs so much and have grown up doing so - honest players who are real pro's. Having said that, the majority of times Ronaldo genuinely gets fouled. I think Louis Saha has got to be replaced.

If i was a blind Man U fan, I'd refuse to see or contemplate problems with any players. So fuck off.


The fact that he doesn't play every game means he is not that important of a player. Don't try and play me son, I know the game like the back of my hand. Micheal Essien does what Owen does, he plays right back when needed, yet PLAYS EVERY GAME HE IS AVAILABLE. You want to know why? Because he is that good. The same with Gattuso, or Makalele in his prime, or Veira in his prime, and soon to be Flamini. So you are wrong there. Hes good, but get your tongue out of his ass there my boy.

In regards to rio. I said he is up there, because in terms of center backs in the world, there literally are THOUSANDS. When I said the top, I mean, the top 1,2 guys in the world. He is no where near those two spots. 10 at best, maybe. Maybe I might say that, but that is not near the top. But it is up there. Can you understand that?


And the fact that you don't think Nani is worth anything shows you are full of hot air like a balloon. Nani is Cristiano Ronaldo 4 or 5 years ago when he first game to Man U. He is raw. Cristiano of 4 or 5 years ago, is no where close to what he is today. His decision making was poor, his service was poor, and he gave the ball away/wasted the ball a lot. Give Nani some time and he will be very good.

I will agree that Saha is on his way out. Can't spend more time in the training room than on the pitch and expect to hold down a spot on one of the worlds biggest clubs.




Now piss off, lets go Blues in the CL final.

[Nygel]

checkyourprez, do you think grant will be manager next term?

[checkyourprez]

Honestly a tough one to call. If he wins the champions league I think it would be pretty hard to can the guy. If he looses it gets a bit more murky.

I've heard rumors about Gus Hiddink taking the job, maybe Rijkaard. It should be an interesting summer all around for coaches and players moving teams.

[Planetary]

The fact that he doesn't play every game means he is not that important of a player. Don't try and play me son, I know the game like the back of my hand. Micheal Essien does what Owen does, he plays right back when needed, yet PLAYS EVERY GAME HE IS AVAILABLE. You want to know why? Because he is that good. The same with Gattuso, or Makalele in his prime, or Veira in his prime, and soon to be Flamini. So you are wrong there. Hes good, but get your tongue out of his ass there my boy.

In regards to rio. I said he is up there, because in terms of center backs in the world, there literally are THOUSANDS. When I said the top, I mean, the top 1,2 guys in the world. He is no where near those two spots. 10 at best, maybe. Maybe I might say that, but that is not near the top. But it is up there. Can you understand that?


And the fact that you don't think Nani is worth anything shows you are full of hot air like a balloon. Nani is Cristiano Ronaldo 4 or 5 years ago when he first game to Man U. He is raw. Cristiano of 4 or 5 years ago, is no where close to what he is today. His decision making was poor, his service was poor, and he gave the ball away/wasted the ball a lot. Give Nani some time and he will be very good.

I will agree that Saha is on his way out. Can't spend more time in the training room than on the pitch and expect to hold down a spot on one of the worlds biggest clubs.




Now piss off, lets go Blues in the CL final.

i wouldnt say flamini is any beter than hargreaves. makelele is a different player to all those ones you listed aswell. hargreaves is definately up there with the best, no question, otherwise he wouldnt get praise for his performances in the toughest league in the world.

oh and rio and vidic make the best defensive partnership in the country, if not world. just look at the stats.

[checkyourprez]

i wouldnt say flamini is any beter than hargreaves. makelele is a different player to all those ones you listed aswell. hargreaves is definately up there with the best, no question, otherwise he wouldnt get praise for his performances in the toughest league in the world.

oh and rio and vidic make the best defensive partnership in the country, if not world. just look at the stats.

Hence why I said "soon to be" Flamini.

Makelele is a different type of player yes, but he plays in the holding defensive midfield position. Using him in my argument is valid.


As to your Rio Vidic statement, just look at the stats Victor Valdez is the second best goalie in La Liga. :rolleyes:

[dave790]

The fact that he doesn't play every game means he is not that important of a player. Don't try and play me son, I know the game like the back of my hand. Micheal Essien does what Owen does, he plays right back when needed, yet PLAYS EVERY GAME HE IS AVAILABLE. You want to know why? Because he is that good. The same with Gattuso, or Makalele in his prime, or Veira in his prime, and soon to be Flamini. So you are wrong there. Hes good, but get your tongue out of his ass there my boy.

Scholes, Giggs and Tevez... Just a few examples of players whose importance to United this year can't be understated. Have they started every game? No. Essien plays every game because he is one of Chelseas most influential players. United, as has been proved this season, have greater strength in depth. Essien has only played right back because he is stronger than what Chelsea have had available. This is not the case with United. I was simply pointing out that when Brown has been injured, Hargreaves has done a very good job there. Fair enough, you don't rate him. I'm a United fan, I've watched every game this season - into double figures live - and I do rate him. It's that simple. On another note, hargreaves has been playing with tendinitis all season, so it's hardly surprising he'snot thrown into every game. In any case, he was brought was specific types of matches, usually tough away games where United have required a holding midfielder. Required being the key word.

In regards to rio. I said he is up there, because in terms of center backs in the world, there literally are THOUSANDS. When I said the top, I mean, the top 1,2 guys in the world. He is no where near those two spots. 10 at best, maybe. Maybe I might say that, but that is not near the top. But it is up there. Can you understand that?

So Ferdinand is in the top 1000. You're an idiot! I mean what more is there to say?! It's an interesting attempt to cover up a complete contradiction on your part. Or maybe i just don't understand. Ferdinand and Vidic are the best central defensive partnership in the league. Not many will disagree. The premiership is generally regarded as one of the toughest and best leagues in the world. Need I say more?


And the fact that you don't think Nani is worth anything shows you are full of hot air like a balloon. Nani is Cristiano Ronaldo 4 or 5 years ago when he first game to Man U. He is raw. Cristiano of 4 or 5 years ago, is no where close to what he is today. His decision making was poor, his service was poor, and he gave the ball away/wasted the ball a lot. Give Nani some time and he will be very good.

I will agree that Saha is on his way out. Can't spend more time in the training room than on the pitch and expect to hold down a spot on one of the worlds biggest clubs.

Now piss off, lets go Blues in the CL final.

Cristiano wasn't that far away when he first came and was far more consistent. It has taken a few years of excellent development to get him where he is now. It's an obvious comparison to make. My simple assessment is I liked Ronaldo even when he first came. I could see/hope for the potential to be achieved. I don't see the same with Nani, largely because United don't really need him, which in all fairness has probably made me slightly against him from the off really. And thank you, Saha is a waste of time.

To be honest, I'm just a passionate United fan. Your views are fine, I mean fair enough. I kinda like this about football. You can love your own club but people are still essentially fans of the game itself, so they've every right to have their opinions. I've been overly aggressive and dismissive, but overall I just don't agree. Particulary about the final... GO UNITED!

Dave.

[Guy Incognito]

Champions! Nice one!


Flamini has got a long way to getting anywhere Essien. Essien is top quality, i wish we signed him when we had the chance! I'm more worried about him and Ballack putting a good game in the final than say Drogba or Shevchenko.

[dave790]

Jesus Christ dave, this is why i don't talk to man utd fans. Its like talkign to a dumbass football fan here in teh states. Hargreaves has a surprise free kick. That's it. Better than ronaldos, but he's just over rated.

REAL STORY THAT NO ONE SAW COMING

MBorough 8 -Man City 1

makes me laugh.

OH YEAH.

sorry to see your team go down Dave (your location team, not you supporting team) Didn't they finish 8th last season? That's a bitch.

Yeah they were 8th last season. I'm not that bothered. Used to watch Reading when they weren't too good funnily enough (in the old Division 2) - strangely, they had few superior players back then too! In any case I moved from Manchester when I was 5. The fact I was from there was least important to me at that age than the fact we had Eric Cantona.

Anyway yeah look, what can I say? I like Owen Hargreaves. I like most the team for that matter. 1999 was just magic for me, but this is the strongest side since then. Non-United fans will find anything negative to say about our players, like with any club. Even my friend whose a Red isn't a Hargreaves fan. I've both watched and played football for years and I appeciate what that specific player does, because it's not a fashionable role or a particulary glorious one. What is the problem with me thinking that?

I just get the impression from you and your earlier statements that you are clueless. But I probably would, defending the team I support and all. I liked your comparison with the Yanks, it made me chuckle. Ooh when is Beckham next on by the way? I'll set the recorder.

[Nygel]

i know my shit, recent things slip past cuz i cant watch all games, but in the handful of games i've seen of players is where i base most my assumption. Hargreaves isn't bad by any means, but didnt united pay 20m? thats silly money. As far as I can tell they needed another English player and a midfielder. My views on him come from WC06 and CL matchs I've seen. Besides his amazing free kick I've never thought he was a great. Also I argue with a lot of people over here about european football, that being the case, they cling on to classic teams that they know nothing about btu pick cuz it was the first name they ever heard. Man Utd, Arsenal, and Real Madrid all are usually the favorites over here. Pisses me off. I can name everyone in the english league (and championship usually) when they can name two. So I naturally hate teams everyone else loves. I am a fan of Del Piero, which is where my first discovery of Juve came from. Also I like Martins and while playing one of the FIFA's I played against newcastle and i liked them from then on. You can't root for your home team when you're on a different continent.

also I don't watch mls, so i wouldnt know with beckham. In all honesty, which this usually pisses off English fans, but I think MLS teams are atleast championship quality. the good ones atleast.

whens the final for CL?

[dave790]

A week wednesday, so the 21st may. crickey what time does 7.45 pm translate at over there?! it's cool there's genuine football fans outside of the UK who try and see as many games as possible. did you see the united-roma quarter final game?

i've never watched a full mls game so i can't comment. the champonship can throw up some great promotion races though.

fair enough on the 20m, it's a lot of money. i obviously think he's worth it. it's all bayern woud have accepted, sometime you've just got to bite the bullet and pay what's demanded if it's a player you really want. carrick wasn't much cheaper. if those two players play consistently - as they have been this season - and stay 5 years or so it will be money welll spent. but who knows how uniteds success will go from here. i'm pretty hopeful.

[Planetary]

In all honesty, which this usually pisses off English fans, but I think MLS teams are atleast championship quality. the good ones atleast.

yeah that's probably fair. the best of them could probably compete/not get relegated. wolves would beat them all though, obviously...

[camo]

I don't see the same with Nani, largely because United don't really need him, which in all fairness has probably made me slightly against him from the off really. And thank you, Saha is a waste of time.


Nani is a really good player he's just having a tough time adjusting to the pace of the league. The Prem is very tough for flair players. Their first season is usually spent with them picking themselves off the floor.
Go and search some videos of him prior to united.
Also Nani is the same nationality to Ronaldo and I'm sure that a minor part of the reason we bought him was to tighten the grip on ronny by practically buying him a friend. It's not unusual for this kind of thing to happen.

I remember when Saha was deemed as being world class. It's just a shame that he's had injuries. I see him as a good offer in a player-plus-money transfer deal for the future.

[Lex Diamonds]

CHAMPIONEYS, CHAMPIONEYS, LA LA LA LA LA LA

[checkyourprez]

Scholes, Giggs and Tevez... Just a few examples of players whose importance to United this year can't be understated. Have they started every game? No. Essien plays every game because he is one of Chelseas most influential players. United, as has been proved this season, have greater strength in depth. Essien has only played right back because he is stronger than what Chelsea have had available. This is not the case with United. I was simply pointing out that when Brown has been injured, Hargreaves has done a very good job there. Fair enough, you don't rate him. I'm a United fan, I've watched every game this season - into double figures live - and I do rate him. It's that simple. On another note, hargreaves has been playing with tendinitis all season, so it's hardly surprising he'snot thrown into every game. In any case, he was brought was specific types of matches, usually tough away games where United have required a holding midfielder. Required being the key word.



So Ferdinand is in the top 1000. You're an idiot! I mean what more is there to say?! It's an interesting attempt to cover up a complete contradiction on your part. Or maybe i just don't understand. Ferdinand and Vidic are the best central defensive partnership in the league. Not many will disagree. The premiership is generally regarded as one of the toughest and best leagues in the world. Need I say more?




Cristiano wasn't that far away when he first came and was far more consistent. It has taken a few years of excellent development to get him where he is now. It's an obvious comparison to make. My simple assessment is I liked Ronaldo even when he first came. I could see/hope for the potential to be achieved. I don't see the same with Nani, largely because United don't really need him, which in all fairness has probably made me slightly against him from the off really. And thank you, Saha is a waste of time.

To be honest, I'm just a passionate United fan. Your views are fine, I mean fair enough. I kinda like this about football. You can love your own club but people are still essentially fans of the game itself, so they've every right to have their opinions. I've been overly aggressive and dismissive, but overall I just don't agree. Particulary about the final... GO UNITED!

Dave.


Giggz and Scholes didn't start all games because they are getting older and also had injury problems. Take them back 5 years, and they would start every game possible. With Tevez, I feel he should start all their games, but for whatever reason he just didnt put him on all the time. A lot had to do with only wanting to play Rooney by himself because Ronaldo is like another forward. But if thats the case I honestly think Tevez is equal to Rooney. Rooney is a bit overated in my opinion.

And Im not saying hargreaves is a bum or anything. He's a good player, just not in that elite in his position. Overrated in what he was paid for.


And I said Rio is in the maybe the top 10 of center backs in the world. But 10 to me isnt top in the world, its up there. The top in the world is literally the top 1 or 2 guys. Thats all I ment by that, I can see where you thought I contradicted myself, I knew what I ment when I was typing it.


And your right, in the end its all good because we both love the best game in the world. Congrats on the league.

[dave790]

cheers man, i really like Tevez. so much energy, and very good on the ball. i rate Rooney though, he's a very selfless player. he's been up there in regards to assists for united, and top 10-wise in the league, since he came. that's why the majority of united fans - well, me at least - aren't bothered when he goes on draughts. becasue he gives so much more to united than just goals. something like 4 out of the 6 games united have lost this season have been without rooney. tevez is, in my mind, a slightly different player but close to being on par.

it is the best game in the world.

[Lex Diamonds]

Sorry dave but how come you support United when you're from Reading?

(Before anyone asks I was born and lived within walking distance of OT till I was 10)

[camo]

Sorry dave but how come you support United when you're from Reading?

(Before anyone asks I was born and lived within walking distance of OT till I was 10)

I thought that too the other day.

In any case I moved from Manchester when I was 5. The fact I was from there was least important to me at that age than the fact we had Eric Cantona.

[dave790]

Yeah... answered before mate. I'm far more brought up in Reading. I consider it my hometown. I did watch Reading as a kid too. If I had to choose a second team, obviously it'd be them. But as corny as it sounds, United's in my blood. I couldn't support anyone else. When United have played Reading, there is not a doubt in my mind in regards to who I want to win. I think when you really support a football club, the aspect of choice disappears. Whatever happens with United I'll be a fan for the rest of my life. As I said, I liked Cantona, I thought he was awesome. The fact I was born in Manchester didn't connect with me until later. My brother's a United fan and one of my earliest memories is how disapointed he was when we lost the league to Blackburn. Obviously, I use that as my 'not a glory hunter' argument.

[Junker]

I can't see how locations can determine what team you support or don't. Or a person born in London is forbidden to support United? (just an example)

[Lex Diamonds]

You are supposedly meant to support your local team, and all the hardcore football fans do regardless of which league they are in or how successful they are. Unfortunately the top teams are so attractive to watch that people will support them instead of their own local teams, causing the unsuccessful teams to struggle even more and the big teams like United to gain reputations for having disloyal fans.

[Guy Incognito]

is anybody bothered about th FA cup final?

I reckon there is a shock on the cards, cardiff to win 1-0.

[dave790]

You are supposedly meant to support your local team

Surely you don't mean that in the sense that you support the team wherever you happen to be living?

[Junker]

You are supposedly meant to support your local team, and all the hardcore football fans do regardless of which league they are in or how successful they are. Unfortunately the top teams are so attractive to watch that people will support them instead of their own local teams, causing the unsuccessful teams to struggle even more and the big teams like United to gain reputations for having disloyal fans.

I see. Actually is the same here. But we have so many football teams (because of our contry size) that people sometimes support 2 or even 3 teams (but from different states).

My dad is an example. He supports one of our local teams and another from the state of São Paulo.

[Guy Incognito]

1 DAY TO GO. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH!

COME ON THE REDS!


I think there will be one goal if any - i am dreading pens cos i think they'll nick it if it goes that far. Pitch doesnt look the best but it should be ok.

[camo]

2-0 Man Yoo

We start of strong, play forwards get them riled. Then sit back, let them attack and catch them on the break just before the half is up.

Chelsea come out for the second half all fired up after the interval and bombard us constantly. We sit back and cushion hits. In the 70-80th min we break strongly and nick another in. Fergie takes scholes off and brings on Fletcher and we defend and sit back for a while.

(y)

[Nygel]

1-1 thus far.

its hard watching a game i dont care about. Though the scholes makelele foul was shit that makelele got carded. Also Seedorf is commentating the first half and then going to the spanish commentators for the second. Hes fun to listen to cuz he says it like it is unlike the shit announcers i usually am forced to listen to.

[dave790]

Makelele got booked for going on at the ref. Fair enough I think (for the ref). I mean Makelele got the foul given, what was the point in complaining further? The only reason Scholes went in was because Makelele had whinged on about an incident moments before involving Evra. It was more of a clash, Scholes being slightly late, than anything awful that warranted Makelele to whinge on. Cunt.