I like the smoking ban now

[Dorothy Wood]

I've decided to be a scenester again. I gave it a try last night, it worked out pretty well. The most fun is going outside the actual bar to smoke, or just to stand around with the smokers. So far, a super slammin hot dude bummed a smoke off me, I mean, this kid was gorgeous and he even stopped and chatted for a bit. way out of my league, but fun stuff. Last night, I chatted with strangers and with some boys that I've seen around for years, but never talked to. One of them is a bouncer at a hipster bar and he was like, "I know you, you were screaming, 'I hate this place! I hate it!'", and I was like, "nooo! I would never!" and he was like, "yeah, that was you! I remember you!" and I was like "nuh uh! okay, maybe". then I was like, "you're nice, I thought you were mean", and he was like, "you're nice too". and then we totally did it.

just kidding! my roommate and I brought a boy home with us though. or rather, he walked us home and we forced him to look at our newly redecorated apartment, then told him to leave. ha ha.


I'M BACK! I RULE!

:(

[BangkokB]

The only bars that don't allow smokers are the ones that don't pay the Whooop-Whooop
That's the sound of the Police
Whooop-Whooop
That's the sound of the Police

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah totally dude!


I think that the ban encouraged binge drinking however, because you have to chug your drink and go outside without it, or leave some poor sap in charge of the drinks. unfortunately I don't know too many saps.

[funk63]

ya the west side of my town has a smoking ban. oh well, more kool one foot on the wall smokechillin for me.

[DipDipDive]

Dude aren't you like 14?

[funk63]

Dude aren't you like 14?

lol 17

[funk63]

oh crap still illegal.

[Dorothy Wood]

I'M CALLING THE POLICE!

[funk63]

NOO

[DipDipDive]

ya the west side of my town has a smoking ban. oh well, more kool one foot on the wall smokechillin for me.

I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure it was never legal to smoke inside the 7-Eleven.

[Lyman Zerga]

lol 17

your profile is bullshitting us then, im quite offended

[BangkokB]

I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure it was never legal to smoke inside the 7-Eleven.

you smoke inside that 7/11 I own---No Problem
Vio-Lenc3
$ $ $ $

[funk63]

your profile is bullshitting us then, im quite offended

holy fuck your Randetica!? ya i fixed my profile. i bet you feel weird about touching yourself when you think about me now

[Lyman Zerga]

holy fuck your Randetica!? ya i fixed my profile. i bet you feel weird about touching yourself when you think about me now

in may 07 you said youre 17 and your b day is in december.. EXPLAIN!

no wait, i forgot that i dont even give a fuck

[funk63]

in may 07 you said youre 17 and your b day is in december.. EXPLAIN!

no wait, i forgot that i dont even give a fuck



well good cuz i wasnt going to explain. because i dont even know

[paul jones]

I don't mind having to outdoors now.Especially in the summer.

When I'm at gigs I miss loads of songs(y)

[BangkokB]

I'm mostly sober now and the pills haven't kicked in yet so I'll say this: A Smoking Ban was passed here last month or so.
The cops that own bars disregard the law altogether and of course are above the law. Way of the land.

I only spend my $ in bars I can smoke so if a bar wants to PooPoo on me bc I smoke then Fuck'em I'll go to the next one. There are no shortage of bars in BKK so Thanks for Putting a Law in Place telling Business owners what they can and cannot do.

Bonus: Smokers generally Drink like Sailors that pulled into port and if they want to isolate themselves bc of some Nancy's that "I don't want it in my hair types" then Fuck'em. You ask me Bangkok~ But don't the hand wringing Nancy's drink as much as hard smokers. As I blow a smoke ring in you're direction I don't respond as I order another Vodka w/ a splash of Cranberry Juice....Then ask myself What Would Tom Waits Do?

[russhie]

^ You're an idiot. You choose to smoke, others (believe it or not!) choose NOT to smoke. What makes your needs more important than those of a bunch of 'nancies' who don't like their hair to stink? It's a bit more involved than that, I think. I don't care if people smoke, just don't do it where you're not supposed to...and don't deride people who choose not to be as 'hard' as yourself.

[Yetra Flam]

smoking inside is gross and disgusting. even in my own house i wouldn't smoke inside.
however, the thing that sucks, is that you can't take your drink outside with you. i like drinking and smoking to happen at exactly the same time. not downing my drink quickly and then losing my spot.

[Loppfessor]

^Hey fools quit talking about smoking bans…that was just a clever excuse for Dorothy to tell us another of her oh so entertaining “I got attention from a male” stories…

[abcdefz]

Private businesses are private businesses. They should be allowed to allow smoking if they want to. Then just post a sign outside that says
"Smoking is permitted in this building" and then customers can decide if they want to patronize the places or not. Pretty fucking simple.

[Rock]

I love non smoking bars. I wish that Virginia had a smoking ban but i doubt that will ever happen. I only like them because i don't smoke as much because I'm too lazy to go outside everytime i want a smoke.

One negative about smoking bans is that you can actually smell everyones farts. Especially at shows. Shit ain't cool...but I guess its worth it in the long run.

[Schmeltz]

Private businesses are private businesses.

That's ridiculous. If given the choice, no bar is going to choose to ban smoking; those that do will simply lose customers to those that don't, and that's bad business. A smoking ban encourages people to abandon costly, destructive, and frankly quite disgusting habits, and eliminates the competitive disadvantage that accrues to establishments that make healthy and responsible choices.

Smoking is idiocy. Pretty fucking simple.

[abcdefz]

That's ridiculous. If given the choice, no bar is going to choose to ban smoking; those that do will simply lose customers to those that don't, and that's bad business. A smoking ban encourages people to abandon costly, destructive, and frankly quite disgusting habits, and eliminates the competitive disadvantage that accrues to establishments that make healthy and responsible choices.

Smoking is idiocy. Pretty fucking simple.


Clearly there's demand for non-smoking bars; the market would create them just like it created juice bars and oxygen bars.

Pretty fucking simple.

And please don't talk to me about "healthy and responsible choices" when you're talking about BARS.

It's alcohol. It's alcohol you're serving to people who will be bumping into others in a small area and later getting into cars. Be serious.

[Yetra Flam]

see, i don't think it does encourage people to stop smoking

[Schmeltz]

Juice bars and oxygen bars occupy a pretty atypical niche market catering to a fairly restricted clientele. I don't think that's a very good example. A typical bar is trying to serve as much alcohol to as many people as quickly as possible; deliberately restricting the demographic is a poor way to pursue that business model.

The best evidence for the demand for non-smoking bars is the smoking ban itself. People want to be able to enjoy getting their drink on without some cancerous spew drifting about in the air. Bars might not be the healthiest places in the world, but that doesn't mean they can't be made healthier. What, should there be rooms in the back for people to shoot up in, just because alcohol's being served too and it's not good for you? Be serious.

[abcdefz]

The best evidence for the demand for non-smoking bars is the smoking ban itself. People want to be able to enjoy getting their drink on without some cancerous spew drifting about in the air. Bars might not be the healthiest places in the world, but that doesn't mean they can't be made healthier. What, should there be rooms in the back for people to shoot up in, just because alcohol's being served too and it's not good for you? Be serious.


That's a ridiculous argument, because shooting up is illegal. Smoking isn't. People should have the freedom to pick and choose the legal business
they run and the legal activities the public does or doesn't want to be around. You don't think people should.

Anti-choice! Anti-choice!

[b i o n i c]

as someone who smokes when drinking, i don't mind the ban either. and i dont think its about discouraging smokers or protecting people who light up, but about people who don't smoke. im for the ban

[BangkokB]

^ You're an idiot. You choose to smoke, others (believe it or not!) choose NOT to smoke. What makes your needs more important than those of a bunch of 'nancies' who don't like their hair to stink? It's a bit more involved than that, I think. I don't care if people smoke, just don't do it where you're not supposed to...and don't deride people who choose not to be as 'hard' as yourself.
Amd You're an Asshole. If i want to smoke in a place but yet "laws" restrict me from doing son and yet I can or across the street to a bar that smoking is no problem
Guess which one I'm going to.

The nonPancy Bar

I Boycott with my wallet bc when I Go Out I Go Crazy Large

[Lyman Zerga]

i dont want to get cancer only cause some assholes need their fags!

it totally cut down our freedom yet the smokers think the smoking ban cuts their freedom..well bad luck

[BangkokB]

I dislike Fat People. They are disgusting and should do something about their health. By their being a lazy good for nothing Fatass, they are telling other people that it's OK to be a fatass.

I want to open a club where only hot ladies and mediocre guys can get in.

Do you think I can get the WHO behind this because Fatassness is the #1 cause of death in the US and I don't won't that lawsuit waiting to happen end up on my dance floor

[Knuckles]

Private businesses are private businesses. They should be allowed to allow smoking if they want to. Then just post a sign outside that says
"Smoking is permitted in this building" and then customers can decide if they want to patronize the places or not. Pretty fucking simple.

yep

[Lyman Zerga]

I dislike Fat People. They are disgusting and should do something about their health. By their being a lazy good for nothing Fatass, they are telling other people that it's OK to be a fatass.

I want to open a club where only hot ladies and mediocre guys can get in.

Do you think I can get the WHO behind this because Fatassness is the #1 cause of death in the US and I don't won't that lawsuit waiting to happen end up on my dance floor

looking at fat people wont harm your health though, it would only make you puke a bit but if you drink than youre used to that anyway

[Dorothy Wood]

^Hey fools quit talking about smoking bans…that was just a clever excuse for Dorothy to tell us another of her oh so entertaining “I got attention from a male” stories…


yeah. well, if you noticed, I was being sarcastic. I'm fucking sad as hell that I'm back to square one.


anyway, smoking ban tonight garnered no results. other than I smoked half as much as I would've. which I suppose, is a success.

in other news. I AM GOING TO MURDER MY UPSTAIRS NEIGHBORS, THEY ARE STOMPING AROUND LIKE MANIACS AND I WANT THEM TO DIE SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATHS. seriously, I am going to punch them to death. pls donut call police.

[Schmeltz]

That's a ridiculous argument, because shooting up is illegal. Smoking isn't. People should have the freedom to pick and choose the legal business
they run and the legal activities the public does or doesn't want to be around.

Of course it's a ridiculous argument, the point was to show that your own argument - that smoking, as a generally unsafe and unhealthy practice, should be allowed in bars because they are generally unsafe or unhealthy places - is equally ridiculous.

Furthermore, I think you're drawing an arbitrary distinction: the only reason shooting smack is "illegal" is because our lawmakers say so, and we are collectively prepared to sanction and abide by this decision, and to deal appropriately with people who transgress its parameters. Similarly, smoking actually is illegal - under certain circumstances, like in bars - only because we say it is. As I said above, I think the smoking ban actually exemplifies a collective choice to remove smoking from the field of acceptable public behaviour. This isn't about anti-market policies or limiting the freedom of individual choice, it's about the basis on which we feel such choices and policies ought to be formed.

And on these grounds, smokers are way, way the fuck out there. All of the science points to the harmful effects of smoking; there is no possible justification for the permission of its pursuit in any public place at all. You might feel as though you have the right to inject whatever poison you feel appropriate into your own body, but such a right comes with equal obligations to the people around you who have to deal with or be subjected to your habit in whatever way, shape or form, and they therefore have an equal right to determine the appropriate circumstances under which such a potentially harmful action can be performed. And we - the people smart enough not to take up such a shitty habit - say smokers can't light up in bars.

Tough shit. (y)

[marsdaddy]

One benefit of the smoking ban is protecting the people who work bars. In many cases, they may not have other options, and in these economically challenged time, telling them they can just quit and work at another non-smoking establishment is a bit harsh.

I think, if people want to smoke (or shoot up) do it in their own home. Of course, that commercial that shows the smoke traveling through the air vents to the baby's room reminds me that it's not safe, either.

In my opinion, anyone who smokes in this day and age, is in some serious denial -- smokers are going to have a long, painful death.

[marsdaddy]

pls donut call police.Donut!

Maybe you can blow smoke through their door/windows?

[roosta]

One benefit of the smoking ban is protecting the people who work bars. In many cases, they may not have other options, and in these economically challenged time, telling them they can just quit and work at another non-smoking establishment is a bit harsh.


Yup. This is exactly why it was introduced in Ireland, to protect workers.

Im very much pro-banning smoking in bars/pubs etc. I dont buy the "but alcohol is just as bad!!!" argument. Its just different. yes alcohol has bad side effects that can bother all of us, occasionally. But being round smoke is just bad. end of.

[russhie]

Amd You're an Asshole. If i want to smoke in a place but yet "laws" restrict me from doing son and yet I can or across the street to a bar that smoking is no problem
Guess which one I'm going to.

The nonPancy Bar

I Boycott with my wallet bc when I Go Out I Go Crazy Large

Asshole with a capital A, huh? Gold.

I bet you Go Crazy Large when you Go Out. The capital letters tell me so.