Chaos at the Garden!

[JasonP]

Good Day People. I know some of you long-time fans attended the MSG show in May of 95. It was a really out of control scene that now seems kinda surreal. Does anyone have any footage of this show, news articles, sound clips...really anything that relates to it? I do remember the boys saying after that that was the best show they had ever played.

If you could hook me up it would be really appreciated. Thanks!

[pm0ney]

Was that the show with Tribe and Biz Markie?

[Laver1969]

Hmmm...I think there's a bootleg of this one. Let me do some diggin'

[bigblu89]

I was at that show. It was the show with Biz, and Flavor Flav into'd them at the beginning of the show.

Tribe opened for them at the Hello Nasty Show at MSG.

It was a great show. I think I have a boot of it as well. I'll have to search around though.

[mcamuto]

I was at that show. It was the show with Biz, and Flavor Flav into'd them at the beginning of the show.

Tribe opened for them at the Hello Nasty Show at MSG.

It was a great show. I think I have a boot of it as well. I'll have to search around though.

It was the best show ever probably. Flavor flav came out with the lights still on and then people realized who it was. He was saying some total nonesense as he normally does then was like 'yo, Im in a band PE. back in 1987 we opened our first show in Scranton Pensylvania for this band. the beastie boys...' and the crowd went more nuts then i ever saw. flav stood on stage in the back most of the show giving high fives to the band here and there with his 80 pound clock around his next. biz was there and there was a rumor that q-tip was supposed to be there as well but bailed. They played get it together without him (maybe only time without him?!?!). The crowd went crazy during the encore, which was five songs. 5 piece dinner played over the sound system and then they bum rushed the stage with 'no sleep' and people just lost it. They also played for 1:50 minutes as opposed to the pretty standard 90 minutes as well.

Hurricane opened and bad brains was supposed to but they bailed on the tour the week before.

It was one of the most sought after boots ever and if there is a legit copy of it floating around I would be started and psyched. I got one once that said it was the MSG show but was Naussau from the previous week.

They also had a live DJ during sets as well instead of filler music which was dope because they were dropping all the rare groove records as opposed to some generic stuff at many shows.

[JasonP]

For years now I have been hoping to find a bootleg of this show...sadly I don't think one exists, but ya never know...wonder if the boys record all of their shows?

[Kid Presentable]

If they opened with Stand Together, then I believe I recall some legendary poster linking up their own bootleg footage of said show. And it was amazing.

[LongDuckDong]

'yo, Im in a band PE. back in 1987 we opened our first show in Scranton Pensylvania for this band. the beastie boys...

The Beastie Boys (or PE) never played Scranton, Penna.

[Laver1969]

If they opened with Stand Together, then I believe I recall some legendary poster linking up their own bootleg footage of said show. And it was amazing.

I think RichCheney linked up the Nassau show and not the MSG...but I could be wrong. *Edit...Bingo (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1109306&postcount=1)

Also...I don't have have the MSG 95. I do have a New York '98 though.

I also remember they opened with Stand Together at the '95 Houston show. And I remember they also replaced Brooklyn with Houston for No Sleep.

[bigblu89]

That was probably the best time to go see a BBoys show.

In my opinion that was the height of their post-LTI popularity, and they reflected it in their performances.

I've seen them multiple times since the MSG and Nassau shows that May, but the crowd wasn't as amped as they were for those 2 shows.

[M.C. Guevera]

The Beastie Boys in their prime were the coolest band on the planet.

[mathcart]

The Beastie Boys in their prime were the coolest band on the planet.

WORD!!!!

(and heres to second primes!)
(y)

[pshabi]

The Beastie Boys in their prime were the coolest band on the planet.

They may not be "in their prime" anymore, which is debatable, but tell me a band that's cooler than them and I'll call you a fucking liar.(y)

[Kid Presentable]

They may not be "in their prime" anymore, which is debatable, but tell me a band that's cooler than them and I'll call you a fucking liar.(y)

It's in no way debatable. The real achievement is how well loved they are, in spite of having passed their prime. If they could achieve a second prime, then great. But it's all good either way.

[M.C. Guevera]

I personally think that their prime was 89-95, but that's just me.

I just don't think that they have the same fire and passion that they did 15 years ago. And it's really not all of their fault. Age, family, other projects, they all came into the picture. Plus, they don't have anything more to prove. They can never do another album again and STILL sell out shows because the Beastie Boys is a brand name. Like the old Grand Royal slogan, the Beastie Boys live are guaranteed fresh everytime.

But creatively, it's not the same like it was in 1992 or 1994. They're creative geniuses, but I haven't felt that creativity in the exact same way that I felt it on Check Your Head or Ill Communication in a long time. The creative juices aren't flowing as much as they used to.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

[mcamuto]

I personally think that their prime was 89-95, but that's just me.

I just don't think that they have the same fire and passion that they did 15 years ago. And it's really not all of their fault. Age, family, other projects, they all came into the picture. Plus, they don't have anything more to prove. They can never do another album again and STILL sell out shows because the Beastie Boys is a brand name. Like the old Grand Royal slogan, the Beastie Boys live are guaranteed fresh everytime.

But creatively, it's not the same like it was in 1992 or 1994. They're creative geniuses, but I haven't felt that creativity in the exact same way that I felt it on Check Your Head or Ill Communication in a long time. The creative juices aren't flowing as much as they used to.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

I agree with you. Actually I think their peak might be refined even further to CYH just because it had a lot more influence by them holistically as opposed to PB which had a lot of creativity from the dust brothers as well.

HN was probably (arguably??) the end of their 'peak' in terms of commercial success. It produced a lot of radio tunes and in general had a lot of tunes that the casual listener (non hardcore) would be into. They were on fire in terms of ticket sales and sell out times in 98 and it started to peter our past then. Sure they will sell out places but some places were smaller for sure then arena's.

People totally go for the 'brand name' but with the 'new stuff' aka TTFN and TMU a lot of fans (during live show) are more like 'oh, new material, bathroom break' as opposed to 'nice, they are playing new material'. That is just the way it looked as an observer. Its nice they are at a point where they can do whatever they want to do and still pull good crowds and still have fun.

They have aged extremely well and instead of being 40 somethings trying to be 20 somethings they have become well established responsible adults.

[mcamuto]

The Beastie Boys (or PE) never played Scranton, Penna.

You are correct, unfortnatly my memory is not serving me well as flavor said somewhere in PA. Either that or flavor (as could be expected) just pulled something out of his ass in between 'YEAH BOY's'

[M.C. Guevera]

Didn't the Quadraphonic Ill Communication 1995 tour sell out in like 10 minutes or something? I heard it the tickets sold like crazy when they came out.

Amazing. That's like N*SYNC/Backstreet Boys levels. And the sad thing is, I don't think they'll ever be THAT popular ever again.

[mcamuto]

Didn't the Quadraphonic Ill Communication 1995 tour sell out in like 10 minutes or something? I heard it the tickets sold like crazy when they came out.

Amazing. That's like N*SYNC/Backstreet Boys levels. And the sad thing is, I don't think they'll ever be THAT popular ever again.

Some shows yet. I think there was a story about Detroit selling out in 9 minutes (or maybe 15). The garden in like 12... bla bla bla. The thing is back in 95 people were still standing in line for tickets so the dynamic was quite different in terms of time to get a ticket and pay etc. Those would be 'instant' sellouts by any stretch. i bought tickets for montreal in 95 and that did not seel out as quick but i believe was still sold out.

Also in 98 they sold out Seattle in like 15 minutes. However in 04 their were still tickets for seattle available weeks after the onsale. That is kind of telling of the trend breaking between these periods of time.

I think a lot of their popularity in 95 came from their 94 lolla tour. They got a lot of exposure on that tour and a lot of people got to see what they were all about live, almost a 're birth' if you will along with 'sabotage' the mega video/radio crossover hit.

actually in 04 they rolled out shows in segments (a few dates here and there) and sometimes that is done when they are trying to gauge markets and ticket sales as opposed to announcing the whole tour at once.

they will never be that popular. but if they keep touring for a bit and fill up places its fine by me.

[bigblu89]

Yeah. as long as they keep doing some live shows every few years, I'll be happy.

I was flabbergasted when I was at the 04 show as the Nassau Coliseum, and saw that it wasn't sold out.

I personally think that they messed up, and should've reversed the Nassau and MSG shows in 04. If the Nassau show was earlier than the MSG, it would've sold out because at the time, it was the only announced NY area stop. Then they could've closed the US part of the tour at MSG. MSG would've sold out, just because it The Garden.

[beenlostonce]

Man, I got to tell you, the show we saw on the '95 tour was flat out sick.

I have seen every tour except for the Paul's Boutique "tour" and last year's Mix Up tour (I should have flown to Denver or Chicago.... FUCK!!!).

And without a doubt, that '95 show was out of freaking control.

We got tickets to see them in May of '95 at Red Rocks in Denver.

For whatever reason, that show was moved to the Denver Coliseum, and it was a complete madhouse.

Opened with the Roots and Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. Complete nuts.

I did not have floor tickets, but as soon as the lights went down, I ended up sucked into a mass of crushing bodies down to the floor, and stayed there for the duration.

I had a borderline out of body experience down in that swirling, sweaty mass, and probably lost 10 pounds of sweat. I couldn't manage the full B-Boys set on the floor, so eventually made my way to the back of the coliseum near the end of the show.

During the encore, the pit looked like a kicked over ant pile. Just a huge mass of craziness imploding in on itself.

One of the best B-Boys shows I have ever seen.

The energy was dripping everywhere (or maybe that was just the 'shrooms).

[TAFKASB]

With no doubt at all...in their prime they were the coolest band on earth...

[mcamuto]

With no doubt at all...in their prime they were the coolest band on earth...

This is true. Some years back there was some magazine and they had like the coolest people in the world. Some music mag or 'culture' mag that was not totally mainstream. I think the beasties and beck were like in the top three spots. In their prime they were the cool kids. They were wearing arnets before they were cool. They were wearing addidas before they became 'cool again' and all that stuff.

They have aged well though and instead of clinging the past are doing it with grace.

[M.C. Guevera]

They were so cool in 1994, that if you were to look up cool in the dictionary, there should have been a picture of the Beastie Boys from the "Sure Shot" music video when they were in their tuxedos staring into the camera towards the end of the video. THAT was the definition of cool RIGHT THERE!

[canucklehead200]

yeah i just don't think they are doing it so much for the music anymore, it's more about what they're saying and for the causes that they support (and i respec tthat in a sense) but i'd rather them focus more on the quality of the music itself

[JasonP]

yeah i just don't think they are doing it so much for the music anymore, it's more about what they're saying and for the causes that they support (and i respec tthat in a sense) but i'd rather them focus more on the quality of the music itself

I don't know man...they didn't say a whole lot on The Mix Up.

[canucklehead200]

I don't know man...they didn't say a whole lot on The Mix Up.

ha, finally someone with a sense of humour...let me correct myself: TT5B is what i was talking about and in a world gone mad as well