My Patience & the Clintons

[yeahwho]

I have officially reached the threshold of patience with Bill and Hillary Clinton. The goodwill that could be achieved during this nomination process has turned into a bitter, desperate attempt to somehow further damage the actual nominee, Barack Obama.

They also seem to think he is so vulnerable that perhaps in the next 2 weeks his candidacy will plummet and the support he has garnered across all political boundaries is going to somehow miraculously turn to her campaign and rally behind her.

That is not going to happen.

I'm trying to figure out, has there ever been a more arrogant couple of political hacks wasting this much goodwill and money?

They fucking sucked the life out of any sort of kindness I will ever share with them again.

[yeahwho]

I am hoping this is true, Analysis: Party insider Clinton now on the outs (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iOk_ueBomwk9h9S82TboWK2bi4PAD90QT3600), otherwise she will be in for quite the backlash from millions of democrats for the continuing degradation and doubt she has expounded on the presidential nominee of her party.

[RobMoney$]

Stop being so dramatic.
You sound like a spoiled brat,
"I WANT OBAMA, WHY CAN'T CLINTON JUST QUIT SO I CAN GET WHAT I WANT"

Maybe you should ask yourself why Obama hasn't clinched yet.

[SobaViolence]

she really doesn't care about the party, only on winning.
and she's trying real hard at the party's expense.

desperation and delusion are really unattractive.

[yeahwho]

Stop being so dramatic.
You sound like a spoiled brat,
"I WANT OBAMA, WHY CAN'T CLINTON JUST QUIT SO I CAN GET WHAT I WANT"

Maybe you should ask yourself why Obama hasn't clinched yet.

LOL, I'm the brat? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1568095&postcount=9)

She is not going to win. You picked a loser. A real loser.

She obviously is going to be the last one to smell the coffee.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why your candidate is continuing to go into debt?

The speculation is getting "ugly" and all that "ugly" is going to land on her lap. Even her delegates are telling her to back off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vs91yhK48&eurl=http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/).

The supporter, New York Governor David Paterson, said flatly on a local radio show that Hillary was starting to show "a little desperation."

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told a New York radio station, clearly weighing his words very carefully.

On the Michigan primary in particular: "You have to rule out the undecideds in Michigan. You have to assume she won 100 percent to nothing in Michigan. I don't think anybody in their right mind would do that, nor would they see it as a civil rights issue."

[Ali]

LOL, I'm the brat? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1568095&postcount=9)

She is not going to win. You picked a loser. A real loser.

She obviously is going to be the last one to smell the coffee.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why your candidate is continuing to go into debt?

The speculation is getting "ugly" and all that "ugly" is going to land on her lap. Even her delegates are telling her to back off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vs91yhK48&eurl=http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/).

The supporter, New York Governor David Paterson, said flatly on a local radio show that Hillary was starting to show "a little desperation."

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told a New York radio station, clearly weighing his words very carefully.

On the Michigan primary in particular: "You have to rule out the undecideds in Michigan. You have to assume she won 100 percent to nothing in Michigan. I don't think anybody in their right mind would do that, nor would they see it as a civil rights issue."


If this is an indication of the type of divisions caused by the nomination struggle then McCrusty has definitely won.

Will all the Obama supporters go and vote for Clitstone if she does win the nomination?

[alien autopsy]

oh chill out yeahwho, its all a game no need to get all emotional. im sure the clintons and obama love eachother dearly. they love their council on foreign relations, trilateral commission and bilderberg friends. its a win win for everyone, regardless if a black man, or a white woman gets in to office, right?

[Bob]

council on foreign relations, trilateral commission and bilderberg

i was skeptical at first but now i'm convinced, there's no way you aren't drizl

also you left out the illuminati and the PNAC

[abcdefz]

They also seem to think he is so vulnerable that perhaps in the next 2 weeks his candidacy will plummet and the support he has garnered across all political boundaries is going to somehow miraculously turn to her campaign and rally behind her.

That is not going to happen.




CAUGHT IN LOVE NEST WITH "SINGER" :D

[yeahwho]

here are some similarities between Clinton's campaign and the Iraq War,

- Blatant disregard of hard numbers aka reality
- Constantly moving targets and metrics
- Hyper-twisted logical thinking
- Desperate clinging to any positive statistical measurement, no matter how contrived or insignificant
- No End In Sight

Today's Clinton campaign news, blazingly maddening and all over the map... just as she has ran her campaign through this whole presidential nomination process.

Obama/Clinton Dream Ticket talk (http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/clintonobama_dream_ticket_talk.html)

Clinton On Reports of Talks To Exit Early: “Flatly Untrue" (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/23/politics/fromtheroad/entry4123680.shtml)

Clinton's Supporters Vow to `Go to the End' for Their Candidate" (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aw655HlUqyZE&refer=home)

Campaign Notebook: Clinton Donors Hedging Their Bets (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=apNQiSaWk7NM&refer=home)

and last but not least, as if her campaign isn't schizophrenic enough, it's also ugly (http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080522/cm_huffpost/103085).

She wants to be the President of the United States. Frightening.

[RobMoney$]

You're not really representing your candidate very well here, yeahwho.
You criticize the Clintons for being a divisive force and running a dirty campaign, yet you have no problem calling her a loser and link us to an article where some blogger is somehow drawing a line to her giving voters an excuse to be racist?
You're doing exactly what you criticize her of doing. You're obviously way too emotionally attached to this debate to be taken seriously at this point so just stop.

[RobMoney$]

Also, if you think $4 a gallon is high, just wait until Obama's "windfall profits tax" plan gets into effect. Oil companies will pass that added cost right on to the consumer.

[yeahwho]

You're not really representing your candidate very well here, yeahwho.
You criticize the Clintons for being a divisive force and running a dirty campaign, yet you have no problem calling her a loser and link us to an article where some blogger is somehow drawing a line to her giving voters an excuse to be racist?
You're doing exactly what you criticize her of doing. You're obviously way too emotionally attached to this debate to be taken seriously at this point so just stop.

She is a loser, she lost this race.

Reality Check Rob,

Hillary Clinton cold-bloodedly asserted to the USA Today that she was the candidate favored by “hard-working Americans, white Americans,” and that her opponent, Barack Obama, the black candidate, just can’t cut it with that crowd.

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Mrs. Clinton.

It has been in the National Media for weeks, it has nothing to do with emotions, only the sad ugly reality about Hillary Clinton.

Also, if you think $4 a gallon is high, just wait until Obama's "windfall profits tax" plan gets into effect. Oil companies will pass that added cost right on to the consumer.

For the motherfucking life of me I can never once remember thinking about gas prices and mentioning them during any conversation with you or here on the BBMB.

So let's just work within the confines of what is going on in reality, fact, like now, where Hillary Clinton made skin color part of the presidential race.

(http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm)

[yeahwho]

Will the day would not be complete without another Hillary Clinton headline.

It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Insane (http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=desperado&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3AdesperadoPost%3A8f94d7c1-b3e8-4f6d-9b1b-d5131c57f19c)

She really is turning on the charm (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/23/clinton_invokes_rfk_assassinat.html).

[RobMoney$]

The only one who's lost their mind is you man.

She was asked a question as to why she continues campaigning, and she said anything can happen, and gave an example of one thing that did happen. Sounds to me like she was just answering the question. It was a stupid thing to say for political reasons, but it's certainly a valid option under the "anything can happen" umbrella.

Unlike Obama did with his pastor, she quickly responded and set the record straight. Here is what Clinton said in a quick avail:
"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to and I'm honored to hold sen. Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate in the state of New York, and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."

So much for all that bullshit about Barak bringing people together and staying above all the name-calling. It's fucking politics as usual and Obama and Clinton both will take shots at each other when given the opportunity.

[RobMoney$]

Philadelphia Inquirer Link (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/19204129.html)

In most inclusive count, Clinton has the numbers
Lost in the excitement of Barack Obama's coronation this week was an inconvenient fact of Tuesday's results: Hillary Clinton netted approximately 150,000 votes and is now poised to finish the primary season as the popular-vote leader. In some quaint circles, presumably, these things still matter.
Real Clear Politics keeps track of six versions of the popular-vote total. They are, in ascending order of inclusivity: (1) the popular vote of sanctioned contests; (2) the total of sanctioned contests, plus estimated votes from the Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington caucuses; (3) the popular vote plus Florida; (4) popular vote plus Florida and the caucuses; (5) the popular vote plus Florida and Michigan; (6) popular vote plus Florida, Michigan, and the caucus estimates. After Tuesday, Clinton now leads in two of these six counts.
If you believe that the most important precept in democratic politics is to "count every vote," then the sixth category is the most inclusive, and here Clinton leads Obama by 71,301 votes. Of course, this includes the Michigan result, where Sen. Obama had removed his name from the ballot. So while it may be the most inclusive, it may not be the most fair.
The third and fourth counts - the ones which include Florida - seem more fair. Here, Obama is clinging to a slight lead of 146,786 votes (257,008, with the caucus estimates). However, with Puerto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota remaining, he will almost certainly finish behind her in these counts, likely by a few hundred thousand votes.
But could Clinton take over the lead in all of the popular-vote tabulations? Quite possibly. In Puerto Rico's last major election, two million people voted. Let's assume that turnout for this historic vote - Puerto Rico has never had a presidential primary before - will be equal to or greater than that turnout.
If Clinton were to win Puerto Rico by 20 points she would pick up at least a 400,000-vote margin. This would allow her to swamp Obama in the popular-vote counts, which include Florida, making her the leader in four of the six permutations of the popular vote. At that point, Obama would be left clinging to the least-inclusive count, which he now leads by 441,558 votes (551,780, including caucuses).
To understand how razor-thin this majority is, consider that if the Puerto Rico turnout is slightly larger than we have imagined - or Clinton's margin is slightly greater - then Clinton would finish the primary process leading in every conceivable vote count. With two million voters, a 28 percent victory would put Clinton over the top even in the count, which excludes Florida and Michigan and includes estimates for Obama's caucus victories.
It is this looming prospect which explains the tremendous pressure Obama partisans and the media are putting on Clinton to drop out of the race. They want her gone now because they understand that she has an excellent chance of finishing as the undisputed people's choice.
Would it matter if Clinton were the undisputed (or even disputed) popular-vote winner? That's hard to say. The question is, matter to whom? The superdelegates will determine the nominee and there's no telling what will sway them. They have no objective criteria from which to make their decisions. But if they were to deny the popular-vote champ the nomination, there is a real question of whether Democratic voters would reconcile themselves to the decision. As it is, much of the talk about Democratic defections in November has been overstated.
Partisan voters almost always come home after their candidate loses. The problem arises when a candidate's supporters believe that their guy (or gal) didn't lose. Expect the chorus calling for Clinton's withdrawal to grow louder over the next week, with people insisting that she has no "path to victory."
Clinton's path is both obvious and simple: Win the popular vote and force Barack Obama and his cheerleaders to explain why that doesn't matter.





That's why she's not quitting, so maybe you'd better learn to be more patient and wait until the race is complete.

[King PSYZ]

because she belives in imaginary math, inciting race as a factor to determine a nominee, has an insatiable lust for power, is delusional, and a pandering politician of the highest order?

[RobMoney$]

Maybe you could try reading it without looking through your Obama-colored glasses.

1. Nobody has been mathematically elimated from the race, he's leading by less than you think. Maybe it's the Obama camp who are the ones citing the Imaginary math and you're just spitting out what they're telling you.

2. If you believe that there's not a large portion of this country who aren't going to be voting without race having an influence ojn their decision, you're the one who's delusional. When Obama makes remarks about gun & bible clenching xenophobic rural whites, he's telling it like it is and lauded for his refreshing honesty, but if Hillary says there are just some people who simply won't vote for a black man, she's inciting race?

3. You don't enter a race to become the most powerful person on the face of the earth without having an insatiable thirst for power. You can say that about any one of the candidates.


Do you all subscribe to the Obama newsletter to get these comments?
It's like the same bullshit from the Obama-trons no matter what blog, Message Board, or TV channel you watch.
Don't you people have a fucking opinion of your own or do you just regurgitate the same crap about Clinton you hear from everywhere else?

[yeahwho]

Maybe you could try reading it without looking through your Obama-colored glasses.

Oh yeah, exactly what color are those Obama-colored glasses RobMoney$?

[King PSYZ]

ahhahahahahhahaa

that's rich, you seem to share in Hillary's maniacal dellusions Rob...

You think anyone who disagrees with your theorys or twists of logic and math to be an "obama bot/tron". Which is hillarious because everywhere I go on the internet with political stories that allow for comments (cnn, many newspapers, huffington, digg, etc.) I see the same trite retort to logic from the Hillary supporters.

The so called feminists who cry sexism when it's simply not the case, and honestly what makes Hillary more qualified to stand up for women's rights? Because she's a woman? Isn't that sexist? Should we vote her in because she'd be the first women? That's sexist too, and just as retarded as saying vote Obama because he'll be the first black president...

Hillary supporters all cling to imaginary or theoretical numbers in this race, but the only numbers that matter are the ones that count with the Democratic Party and the ones based in reality.

Hillary supporters also love to talk about experience, well then tell me what experience Hillary has other than being oblivious or too weak to do anything about Bill's infidelities? Obama has more ELECTED OFFICE experience than Hillary by about 13 years, but because he wasn't in the news nationally Hillary seems to think it doesn't matter. Also, I posted a story about a month or two back that links directly to the library of congress and Obama's senate record far outshines Hillary's, while also showing the kind of broad support he can gather.

Hillary supporters also love to say Obama is just spewing rhetoric. Well, that's false. There's substance to his message, but it's also telling that he's a talented orrator. Some of our greatest presidents have been strong speakers and when you want a nation of millions to follow your lead and trust your driving the bus the right way it helps to be able to endear that trust. Granted we've all become acustomed to the Bush style of fuck you I do what I want, My way or gitmo but he's also quickly earning a spot as the nation's worst president and his presidential library should be in a public bathroom.

Has everything Obama said been perfect? No. Is he some magical nubian wizzard who will wipe clean the Bush slate in 4 years? No. The only people saying that's his platform or that's what his supporters belive are the oposition, either Hillary or the GOP. He's said he's only human, but that along with his policies, and his record are what make me support his bid.

When this race started I was about 51/49 in favor of Obama to Clinton. As the process has trodded along she's pushed me a full 100 behind Obama. Pandering to the nation by crying on TV when behind in the polls (great image of a strong leader there Hillary, although you were able to remain pretty composed when you were on TV while the nation talked about your husband getting hummers in his office...), wanting the rules to change as she goes to better suit her nomination hopes (she knows all about caucuses from Bill's runs at office, she knew all about Flordia and Michigan and signed off on their delegates being unseated, she knew all about the proportional delegate distribution, etc), pandering to fear and hate (spreading muslim rumors, talks about assasination possiblities, saying she's all for the WHITE middle class (does that mean she could give two shits about black, hispanic, asian, etc middle class???), etc.), and out right lies about experience and history (Ireland, Sniper fire in Boznia, bringing women's rights to China, etc.)

And yes, she is mathmatically behind. But Obama has said eveytime he was asked she has every right to finish her bid, and she does. But attacking the probbable nominee is insane and does nothing but help the GOP. I can understand trying to show why one might be the better nominee, but attacking her fellow democrat as if she was a republican is asinine.

Obama has a majority of pleged delegates now, she could win 100% of the next three races and still be behind. Obama closed and then shot well past a 100 superdelegate gap between them and now there's about 111 left, and moving to Obama by about 4-5 every other day.

But the best part, I have come to all of these conclusions on my own. And frankly I am insulted you would dare call me some kind of Obama troll or mindless follower. Moreso since you seem to be quite fond of posting al of Hillary's talking points and linking to articles and adding some insipid, backhanded comment rather than state your own independant opinon.

[RobMoney$]

Oh yeah, exactly what color are those Obama-colored glasses RobMoney$?


They're black because he is black and I must be racist.

I knew when I typed that sentence some moron would make that comment, so congrats on being the predictable winning race-baiting moron!

[RobMoney$]

ahhahahahahhahaa

that's rich, you seem to share in Hillary's maniacal dellusions Rob...

You think anyone who disagrees with your theorys or twists of logic and math to be an "obama bot/tron". Which is hillarious because everywhere I go on the internet with political stories that allow for comments (cnn, many newspapers, huffington, digg, etc.) I see the same trite retort to logic from the Hillary supporters.

The so called feminists who cry sexism when it's simply not the case, and honestly what makes Hillary more qualified to stand up for women's rights? Because she's a woman? Isn't that sexist? Should we vote her in because she'd be the first women? That's sexist too, and just as retarded as saying vote Obama because he'll be the first black president...

Hillary supporters all cling to imaginary or theoretical numbers in this race, but the only numbers that matter are the ones that count with the Democratic Party and the ones based in reality.

Hillary supporters also love to talk about experience, well then tell me what experience Hillary has other than being oblivious or too weak to do anything about Bill's infidelities? Obama has more ELECTED OFFICE experience than Hillary by about 13 years, but because he wasn't in the news nationally Hillary seems to think it doesn't matter. Also, I posted a story about a month or two back that links directly to the library of congress and Obama's senate record far outshines Hillary's, while also showing the kind of broad support he can gather.

Hillary supporters also love to say Obama is just spewing rhetoric. Well, that's false. There's substance to his message, but it's also telling that he's a talented orrator. Some of our greatest presidents have been strong speakers and when you want a nation of millions to follow your lead and trust your driving the bus the right way it helps to be able to endear that trust. Granted we've all become acustomed to the Bush style of fuck you I do what I want, My way or gitmo but he's also quickly earning a spot as the nation's worst president and his presidential library should be in a public bathroom.

Has everything Obama said been perfect? No. Is he some magical nubian wizzard who will wipe clean the Bush slate in 4 years? No. The only people saying that's his platform or that's what his supporters belive are the oposition, either Hillary or the GOP. He's said he's only human, but that along with his policies, and his record are what make me support his bid.

When this race started I was about 51/49 in favor of Obama to Clinton. As the process has trodded along she's pushed me a full 100 behind Obama. Pandering to the nation by crying on TV when behind in the polls (great image of a strong leader there Hillary, although you were able to remain pretty composed when you were on TV while the nation talked about your husband getting hummers in his office...), wanting the rules to change as she goes to better suit her nomination hopes (she knows all about caucuses from Bill's runs at office, she knew all about Flordia and Michigan and signed off on their delegates being unseated, she knew all about the proportional delegate distribution, etc), pandering to fear and hate (spreading muslim rumors, talks about assasination possiblities, saying she's all for the WHITE middle class (does that mean she could give two shits about black, hispanic, asian, etc middle class???), etc.), and out right lies about experience and history (Ireland, Sniper fire in Boznia, bringing women's rights to China, etc.)

And yes, she is mathmatically behind. But Obama has said eveytime he was asked she has every right to finish her bid, and she does. But attacking the probbable nominee is insane and does nothing but help the GOP. I can understand trying to show why one might be the better nominee, but attacking her fellow democrat as if she was a republican is asinine.

Obama has a majority of pleged delegates now, she could win 100% of the next three races and still be behind. Obama closed and then shot well past a 100 superdelegate gap between them and now there's about 111 left, and moving to Obama by about 4-5 every other day.

But the best part, I have come to all of these conclusions on my own. And frankly I am insulted you would dare call me some kind of Obama troll or mindless follower. Moreso since you seem to be quite fond of posting al of Hillary's talking points and linking to articles and adding some insipid, backhanded comment rather than state your own independant opinon.


My opinion is for everyone to chill the fuck out, stop whining like a bunch of babies, and let the race play itself out.
This is the mess Dean created by punishing Fl. & Mi. I blame him.
Obama will likely clinch soon, so people should quit crying for Hillary to quit. You'll get your way soon enough, and when you do you should show the type of class you all claim Obama has and try to stay above the
"Na-Na-Na-Na-I told you so" threads. I doubt that'll happen though and my money's on yeahwho to be the first one to cross the finish line on the moronic "I told you so" race.

[King PSYZ]

Don't blame Dean, blame every democrat that signed onto the punishment, including your precious Hillary.

Blame Florida and Michigan for being stupid enough to defy the rules set forth fully knowing the outcome of such an action. Democrats in those states shouldn't point fingers at Obama for not wanting their vote counted. They should sending their state party leaders out on a rail for voiding their votes.

Blame the voters of both states who voted fully well knowing they wouldn't be counted beforehand. They should have closed the polls in protest til they were forced to reschedule to DNC regulations.

Regardless, you are the only one who needs to calm down and stop whining. If the statement of facts to you is whining like babies, then what would you consider your irrational and insulting responses to be?

I don't want her to quit running, go for it lady, it only shows how desperate you are for a position of power. I do want her to quit attacking Obama as if he was Jeb Bush. They're on the same side, start acting like it.

Fact is she knew the tides where not moving how she thought after the very first primary. She had a chance to show she could be a progressive and positive politician and she went another direction and it cost her the bid. Keep in mind she all but had this thing in the bag before it started, Obama was the underdog not her. That's why she has such a large vote, had she not squandered her trust with many democrats she might have sealed up the bid long ago. But she went with attacking her party mate instead of telling us why she was better, not why everyone else was worse.

[yeahwho]

They're black because he is black and I must be racist.

I knew when I typed that sentence some moron would make that comment, so congrats on being the predictable winning race-baiting moron!

Yet you wrote it anyway.... thats why I enjoy your posting so much. So the early fallout from the RFK statement is actually funny only because here is a candidate who is losing this race big time and oblivious.

In a campaign whose one-thing-after-another nature rivals that of any National Lampoon movie, the latest twist seems to have shocked even some of the most jaded observers.

continue to read via this magic link (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/the-early-word-rfk-fallout/)

To be unaware that one’s words tap into a monumental fear that exists in a portion of the electorate — a fear that Obama’s race could get him killed — is an unusual mistake for a serious and highly disciplined presidential candidate.

She does go on and on quite a bit for someone who is very robotic and disciplined so far many have found her to be very calculated in how she speaks. The statement about RFK really is ugly and the Obama camp was furious in private about it.

Remember Obama supporters of which I am have no restrictions to free speech, just as you have enjoyed, so when I start a thread that expounds on "I have officially reached the threshold of patience with Bill and Hillary Clinton" and then go on to say, "They fucking sucked the life out of any sort of kindness I will ever share with them again", this doesn't mean I'm so pro Obama I have to now officially start up a hate campaign for him, it just means I am sick of just being puked on by her campaign.

I would still be much happier with Dennis Kucinich than either of these two candidates, but between the two currently in this democratic race one of them is brilliant compared to the other.

[afronaut]

2. If you believe that there's not a large portion of this country who aren't going to be voting without race having an influence ojn their decision, you're the one who's delusional. When Obama makes remarks about gun & bible clenching xenophobic rural whites, he's telling it like it is and lauded for his refreshing honesty, but if Hillary says there are just some people who simply won't vote for a black man, she's inciting race?

Unfortunately there are people in this country who won't vote for a candidate because of skin color, or other such insignificant ridiculous reasons. Just watch this: http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=1507

Hillary isn't not correct in pointing this out, but it's not the kind of angle a presidential candidate should want to take, or associate ones self with. Just like Obama probably shouldn't have pointed out the fact that there are pissed off xenophobic gun clinging bible beating numbskulls in this country.

However, in my mind, pointing out that all the racists are going to vote for you is a lot worse, and a lot stupider. Maybe Obama and McCain should point out that all the sexists are going to vote for one of them.

[yeahwho]

The southern strategy, nothing new to American politics. pick your link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=The+southern+strategy&btnG=Google+Search)

Her campaign is a 72-car pileup. Bodies are everywhere. I expect the superdelegates to declare quickly and offer her about a 1-day window to shut the fuck up and get off the national stage before they bring out the red and white striped cane and yank her off.

[yeahwho]

Here is how the end begins, the word is...

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hY742M_s1ttD_ycf2Zusn1o1fD3QD90RGUR80), whom became the 14th superdelegate to switch from Clinton to Obama is just one of 40 super delegates (http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/76286/Does-Obama-Have-40-Clinton-Superdelegates-Ready-To-Switch?.htm) who are currently supporting Clinton but plan switching to Obama's camp one or two at a time.

[RobMoney$]

The southern strategy, nothing new to American politics. pick your link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=The+southern+strategy&btnG=Google+Search)

Her campaign is a 72-car pileup. Bodies are everywhere. I expect the superdelegates to declare quickly and offer her about a 1-day window to shut the fuck up and get off the national stage before they bring out the red and white striped cane and yank her off.


I'm willing to bet you this doesn't happen.
Loser gets off this MB for good.

[yeahwho]

I'm willing to bet you this doesn't happen.
Loser gets off this MB for good.

A person can wish... just like Hillary Clinton can wish.