View Full Version : ...and now it gets really ugly. "The Michelle Obama RUMOR".
RobMoney$
06-02-2008, 11:08 PM
I've read this is being perpetuated by either the Clinton or GOP camps, who knows maybe it's both of them.
But apparently there's an ugly rumor going around the Mrs. Obama made some racist comments towards white people when speaking on the dias at the Trinity United Church a few months back. And apparently there's video of the whole thing.
Just Google "Michelle Obama Rumor" and take you pick of links.
I know I'm going to get a bunch of shit for even posting this thread, but this is likely going to be a major story in a few days whether it's true or not. And if it's not true it's pretty disgusting.
I'm just passing along what I've come across.
Lyman Zerga
06-03-2008, 09:27 AM
gangsta
abcdefz
06-03-2008, 09:40 AM
She's a lesbian Muslim, too, by the way.
Just sayin'.
SugarInTheRaw
06-03-2008, 12:50 PM
Have to stress that this is just a rumor about Michelle. I wouldn't be surprised if this rumor will fuel Hillary to take the fight for the nomination right into the convention. I think if this rumor is verified, Hillary will attempt to persuade the Democrats that she alone can defeat McCain and that Obama as the Democratic nominee is a guaranteed GOP White House next year.
michelle obama assassinated RFK
what's kind of interesting is that even though there's really no proof (that i'm aware of) that hilary is responsible for this, it's a testament to her campaign strategy that people automatically assume she's to blame, and not necessarily the republican candidate
i love this election. we have two relatively desirable democratic candidates, either of whom would be a big improvement over the bullshit we've been putting up with for the past 8 years, but because of this stupid primary, each half of the party hates the other candidate. if we get another 8 years of republicanism because of this, i swear to god i'm moving to france or something
SobaViolence
06-03-2008, 04:48 PM
gawtdamn white people...
RobMoney$
06-03-2008, 05:00 PM
Roger Stone (http://www.stonezone.com/) is the one who's behind this "whisper" campaign. He wrote about it and was on Fox speaking about it with Geraldo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjoqq62oKU).
Roger Stone is a big Republican strategist, and on the eve of Obama clinching the nomination the GOP boys are just getting their engines warmed up.
Anyone who's shocked by this is simply naive because this is what the GOP does,
They don't even really try to hide it.
Seriously, you have to read this guy's wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone):
Political career
George H.W. Bush campaign, 1988: According to Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28magazine%29), in the 1988 George H. W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush) presidential campaign, Stone was involved with the Willie Horton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton) advertisements targeted against Democratic opponent Michael Dukakis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dukakis).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-time-11) The Horton ad is credited by some with contributing to the defeat of Dukakis by portraying him as soft on crime. Stone has said that he urged Lee Atwater not to include Horton in the ad.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-12)
Chaired Arlen Specter's presidental campaign 1995: In 1995, Stone was the president of Republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29) Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) Arlen Specter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter)'s campaign for the 1996 Republican Presidential nomination [14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-13). Specter withdrew early in the campaign season with less than 2% support.
Lobbyist for Donald Trump: Stone was a lobbyist for Donald Trump (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump) on behalf of his casino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino) business [15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-14) and was also involved in opposing expanded casino gambling in New York State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State), a position that brought him into conflict with Governor George Pataki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pataki) [16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-tomasky-15)
2000 United States presidential campaign: Stone has been credited with setting up street demonstrations in Florida to protest the recounts held after the 2000 presidential election (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_2000); he is also credited with organizing the so-called "Brooks Brothers riot" where Republican congressional staff members, among others, protested outside an office where ballots were being recounted.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-timesresign-16)
New York gubernatorial election, 2002: In 2002, Stone was associated with the campaign of businessman Thomas Golisano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Golisano) for Governor of New York State (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Governor_of_New_York_State&action=edit&redlink=1)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-tomasky-15).
2004 North Carolina 5th District Republican Primary: In the spring and summer of 2004, two 527 groups associated with Roger Stone sent out mailings attacking Winston-Salem City Councilman Vernon Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Robinson) during the primary race. Other mailings from one of the 527 groups promoted then-State Senator Virginia Foxx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Foxx), who ultimately won the race.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Adviser to Joseph Bruno, Senate majority leader of New York: In 2007 Stone, a top adviser at the time to Joseph Bruno (the majority leader of the New York State Senate), was forced to resign by Bruno after allegations that Stone had threatened then gubernatorial candidate Eliot Spitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer).[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-timesresign-16) Stone was accused on an episode of Hardball with Chris Matthews on August 22, 2007 of being the voice on an audiotape threatening Governor Eliot Spitzer's father Bernard Spitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Spitzer). The audiotape is controversial because of the expletives involved: "And there‘s not a goddamn thing your phony, psycho, piece-of-shit son can do about it."[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-17)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-18) Stone initially denied the reports. Thereafter, however, he resigned from his position as a consultant to the New York State Senate Republican Campaign Committee, at the request of Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bruno). [17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-timesresign-16)
Citizens United Not Timid, 2008: In January 2008, Stone founded Citizens United Not Timid, an anti–Hillary Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton) 527 group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_group) with an intentionally obscene acronym. [20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-20)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Stone&action=edit§ion=3)] 2004 United States Presidential campaign
Aide for Al Sharpton?: During the 2004 US Presidential campaign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_2004), Al Sharpton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton) responded to accusations that Stone was working on his campaign, stating "I've been talking to Roger Stone for a long time. That doesn't mean that he's calling the shots for me. Don't forget that Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton) was doing more than talking to Dick Morris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris)" [22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-laweekly-21) Critics suggested that Stone was only working with Sharpton as a way to undermine the Democratic party's chances of winning the election. Sharpton denies that Stone had any influence over his campaign.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-22)
Kerry-Specter campaign materials: During this period, Stone was also accused [24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-23) of responsibility for the "Kerry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry)-Specter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter)" campaign materials that were circulated in Pennsylvania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania). Such signs were considered controversial because they were seen as an effort to get Democrats who supported Kerry to vote for the Republican Senator Arlen Specter in heavily Democratic Philadelphia.
This is guy is a piece of work,
Stone's Rules
According to Labash, Stone "often sets his pronouncements off with the utterance 'Stone's Rules', signifying listeners that one of his shot-glass commandments is coming down, a pithy dictate uttered with the unbending certitude one usually associates with the Book of Deuteronomy." Stone's Rules can be about fashion, food or strategy.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
Examples:
"Unless you can fake sincerity, you'll get nowhere in this business." (one of Stone's favorites)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Politics with me isn't theater. It's performance art. Sometimes, for its own sake."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Don't order fish at a steakhouse,"[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"White shirt + tan face = confidence,"[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Undertakers and chauffeurs are the only people who should be allowed by law to wear black suits."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Hit it from every angle. Open multiple fronts on your enemy. He must be confused, and feel besieged on every side."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Always praise 'em before you hit 'em."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Be bold. The more you tell, the more you sell." (attributed to advertising guru David Ogilvy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ogilvy))[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Losers don't legislate." (from Richard Nixon)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattack." ("Often called the Three Corollaries", Stone says of this rule.)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Nobody ever built a statue to a committee."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Avoid obviousness."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Never do anything till you're ready to do it."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Look good = feel good."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
"Always keep the advantage."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#cite_note-ml-1)
so did this ever happen or
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