It feels like pre Hello Nasty days

[Kid Presentable]

Maybe it's just the linking to those old MTV interviews, but the band is busy, the shit is retarded. I dunno, does anybody else think that big things may come out of this album? Not like Buses and Hippos and shit, like big things goings-on wise?

I don't like this kind of speculating normally, but I'm quite excited about this new album.

[Brother McDuff]

the fact that they will be returning to an instruments, sampling, rapping, etc. format makes this album a notable one already. It feels like they're making an actual beastie boys record this time around, and boy does that get me going. it was nice to see them get their rocks off and delve into bold new directions the last time around, but it definitely feels like they're bringing it back home again. It just feels so right.


it feels like Christmas eve, these times leading up to official releases.

[Kid Presentable]

The mix up was kind of like Aglio in its diversion (although I enjoy Aglio more), but yeah the whole rhyming, playing and sampling and all that could bring peace back to the community. I do wonder if they'll sing, or even throw in some hardcore? I do wonder.....

[mikizee]

I'm not expecting the new album to drop in the next 12 months.

[beastieboysbaby]

the fact that they will be returning to an instruments, sampling, rapping, etc. format makes this album a notable one already. It feels like they're making an actual beastie boys record this time around, and boy does that get me going.


yes yes yes ! i am so excitedddddddd ! ;):cool::p

[camo]

It's kind of a rare thing for fans that prior to the album being released, we have no idea how album will sound. They could release anything.

It's both frustrating and exciting.

[gbsuey]

i'm just really happy they still wanna keep making music coz they've been on it a long time....i will actually cry if they announce no more albums/gigs.

and really excited!!!!

[Lyman Zerga]

a mix up part 2 album please!

[camo]

a mix up part 2 album please!

No! Something new please!

[Brother McDuff]

It's kind of a rare thing for fans that prior to the album being released, we have no idea how album will sound. They could release anything.

It's both frustrating and exciting.



the moment the beasties become predictable is the moment I will throw in the towel. but that aint never gon happen, thank god.

[camo]

hell yeah!

[funk63]

shits gonna go quadruple uranium.

[M.C. Guevera]

Hello Nasty was their last really great album too.

[Friis gal]

I hope they do a song about buses, hippos and shit.

[mathcart]

I hope they do a song about buses, hippos and shit.

Mark on the bus, pt 2- new and improved! Now featuring hippos!?!
:D

[pshabi]

I have this feeling/hope/wish/dream that this is going to be one of the, if not THE best studio album the bboys have ever done. It's going to be critically acclaimed and going to put them "back on the map" for the 5th time or whatever.

Carry on.

[Brother McDuff]

I have this feeling/hope/wish/dream that this is going to be one of the, if not THE best studio album the bboys have ever done. It's going to be critically acclaimed and going to put them "back on the map" for the 5th time or whatever.

Carry on.



high hopes. i like your enthusiasm. lets hope your crystal ball is shining non-fiction. :o

[alikat]

i'm feeling the spirit too. whenever i think of the year 1998, i think "hello nasty" and "costa rica" (the album dropped while i was there.)

a decade later, it's warm & fuzzy to know the band's still cranking them out...



. . . and sad to realize i've never been back to costa rica . . .

WELL. IT'S. 50CUPSOFCOFFEEAND YOUKNOWIT'S ON!

[Brother McDuff]

i'm feeling the spirit too. whenever i think of the year 1998, i think "hello nasty" and "costa rica" (the album dropped while i was there.)

. . . and sad to realize i've never been back to costa rica . . .

its sounds like you need to go back to costa rica, homey. apparently thats when the bboys are most on point. :p

you are obligated by the beastie community to pay another homage to costa rica and astronomically set off an order of events that yields a Hello Nasty part 2.:D

[Kid Presentable]

whoa nobody said hello nasty part 2. It's just the weight of expectation that's similar. Something retarded and mind-blowing is the hope, but no anything part 2.

[DJ Pioneer]

I'm pumped for the new album too! A lot more than I was for TMU. TMU for me was something I listen to once in a while when I'm in the mood. It'll never find it's way into my regular rotation. I remember putting the CD in on the ride home from Circuit City and thinking, "well this is cool, but it doesn't seem like a new Bboys album." The new album will be a return to form, by which I mean vocals included! :D

[Brother McDuff]

whoa nobody said hello nasty part 2. It's just the weight of expectation that's similar. Something retarded and mind-blowing is the hope, but no anything part 2.

bboy albums in the 90s were so full of variety and surprises that a part 2 to any of those records would still be some off the wall stuff, new sounding stuff.

ill communication was kind of a cyh part 2, really, but it still had its own life force and character.

[Kid Presentable]

I think Ill Communication has more personality than Check Your Head, and marries aggression, swag and social conscience better than any of their works before or after. To say it's Check pt 2 is to underestimate it, man. It's pretty much the perfect example of the modern Beastie Boys philosophy. Check your head was constructed over those few years, and you hear overlaps and juxtapositions much more than in Ill Comms. The latter sounds more like it was composed rather than constructed if that even makes an iota of sense.

[Brother McDuff]

I think Ill Communication has more personality than Check Your Head, and marries aggression, swag and social conscience better than any of their works before or after. To say it's Check pt 2 is to underestimate it, man. It's pretty much the perfect example of the modern Beastie Boys philosophy. Check your head was constructed over those few years, and you hear overlaps and juxtapositions much more than in Ill Comms. The latter sounds more like it was composed rather than constructed if that even makes an iota of sense.


word up, i feel ya. i guess what i was leaning towards was that ill communication took the blueprint of the sound they created in cyh and stretched, elaborated, and polished it. they took the basis of the newly found cyh technique/style and used it as a launch pad to delve deeper into the genre bending sound they would later be identified for.

roughly, i feel, IC is an elaboration of the principles they established through the experimentation of CYH.

the more i think about it, "part 2", even as loosely as I used then term, is a horrible description of something that can very well be considered the evolution of its predecessor, rather than its companion.

im gonna shut up now. sorry.


P.S. I'm very impressed by your comparison of IC and CYH in that previous post, Kid P. I never viewed the relationship of the two records in that light before. Thank you. The only thing I'd disagree with is that I feel CYH has more personality and charm, for it lets it all hang out. There're rough edges and an overall raw, cut-and-paste stigma to it that I feel conveys a level of vulnerability, honesty, and confidence that the sleekness and meticulousness of IC can often overshadow.

[Laver1969]

I'd like to nominate Bro. McDuff and KP to teach a college course on CYH and IC. You guys articulate the finer points very well...nice depth and texture in your description!

A bit off topic...but I wonder how much politics/social awareness-type stuff will make its way onto the new album?

I'd also like to see Yauch and Horovitz grow some ZZ Top style beards.

[Kid Presentable]

I would hope for a fair amount of the socio-political stuff, but it always seems alienate people. Plus, it's kind of "Hey, I'm famous so you should listen to me and I don't really get up to much else anyway" from a distance.

Sometimes the serious stuff really works and other times it sounds a tad amateur-ish and ham-fisted (for the B-Boys). I think it works best injected as an aside in many cases (Sure Shot, Egg Man, Putting Shame in Your Game, Heart-Attack Man). I'd hope that if a serious song cropped up, the level of writing and such would be elevated to really cut-through, so even if you don't like the message, the shit at least sounds dope enough to listen to. Maybe We Got The would have been better designed as a hardcore cut?

[Brother McDuff]

I would hope for a fair amount of the socio-political stuff, but it always seems alienate people. Plus, it's kind of "Hey, I'm famous so you should listen to me and I don't really get up to much else anyway" from a distance.

Sometimes the serious stuff really works and other times it sounds a tad amateur-ish and ham-fisted (for the B-Boys). I think it works best injected as an aside in many cases (Sure Shot, Egg Man, Putting Shame in Your Game, Heart-Attack Man). I'd hope that if a serious song cropped up, the level of writing and such would be elevated to really cut-through, so even if you don't like the message, the shit at least sounds dope enough to listen to. Maybe We Got The would have been better designed as a hardcore cut?


I agree 100%. I respect their intentions, and feel that they are are in a great place to reach the masses, given their extensive crossover successes, but I think they could be much more tasteful about it. Maybe not devoting whole songs to it and being a tad more creative with it, rather than straight forward, sometimes bland and preachy lyrical efforts. As you've said, fitting in a line or two here or there (as they so delicately did on IC and HN) is much more palatable and accessible, while still maintaining a generality to the overall song.

[pshabi]

I would hope for a fair amount of the socio-political stuff, but it always seems alienate people. Plus, it's kind of "Hey, I'm famous so you should listen to me and I don't really get up to much else anyway" from a distance.

Sometimes the serious stuff really works and other times it sounds a tad amateur-ish and ham-fisted (for the B-Boys). I think it works best injected as an aside in many cases (Sure Shot, Egg Man, Putting Shame in Your Game, Heart-Attack Man). I'd hope that if a serious song cropped up, the level of writing and such would be elevated to really cut-through, so even if you don't like the message, the shit at least sounds dope enough to listen to. Maybe We Got The would have been better designed as a hardcore cut?

I really liked We Got The. There were a couple of times back in 04/05 where I had some get togethers at the crib. I'd tell people, "I'm gonna play the new bboys album." Then "We Got The" came on @ the end and everyone was subconsciously bobbing their heads and they'd ask, "Who is this?"

"Still the bboys!!!!"

On a side note: I bet the bboys never produce another hardcore song again.

[Kid Presentable]

^^^Fair enough, even though it's not a weighty argument. How drunk and lit was everybody? :p

About the hardcore thing, it sounds like you're ready to be wrong. The only negative about the hardcore songs nowadays is they bring out all the fucking assholes at shows who fuck up the fun for everybody. I couldn't disagree more with your assertion about them never making another hardcore song, though.

[alikat]

its sounds like you need to go back to costa rica, homey. apparently thats when the bboys are most on point. :p

you are obligated by the beastie community to pay another homage to costa rica and astronomically set off an order of events that yields a Hello Nasty part 2.:D

OK!! I'll do it!!! I mean, I have to. :D



About the hardcore thing, it sounds like you're ready to be wrong. The only negative about the hardcore songs nowadays is they bring out all the fucking assholes at shows who fuck up the fun for everybody. I couldn't disagree more with your assertion about them never making another hardcore song, though.

Definitely -- hard core has to emerge on the next album. It's in their blood these days. Yauch? Just produced a hardcore album for Bad Brains. Mike D and Horovitz? Tore the shit out of hard core vocals on this last tour. Look what was in such heavy rotation: Remote Control, Time for Livin, Maestro, Egg Raid, Gratitude . . . plus the songs that fuse hard core vocals with funky intruments, like Live at PJs. The band seemed to just light up when they did their hard core songs live. Plus I've always seen TT5B as their last hurrah for hip hop studio albums. I predict funky instrumentation meets scorching vocals. And I hope for some quieter songs like I Don't Know and the like. The band's going to return to its punk roots with more lyrical maturity. In other words: I have high hopes.

As for fan behavior, we just need O-scope to distribute a friendly PSA about how to behave in a mosh pit. Done!

[easy 3]

Hey,

I hadn't noticed that this thread had gone down this route when I posted a new thread last night much along these very lines - "I hope Horovitz screams his fucking head off on this new one"

Um, yeah, I think they could drop some more monstorously huge genre-crossing tracks. I know they've got it in them. I think I was also trying to say that Adrock brings some great Hardcore attitude to Hip Hop and vice versa with his on stage lyrical performances.

As for moshpit behaviour, ummmm, what can I say? I'm basically a hip hop kid at heart but I LOVE A GOOD MOSHPIT.

I agree that some people act like assholes when they're in a concert crowd (but that applies to any big crowd - trust me - I've been shoved around at a fuckin' Herbie Hancock gig! - by a little, middle-aged lady!), large groups of people creates chaos and I choose to embrace that. Plenty of hardcore acts have made songs or comments about moshpit behaviour (Tough Guy could apply for example, Sick of it All do a great one that sums it up but I can't place it's name right now...'through these doors' maybe? I'm a bit out of touch nowadays) and I like to think I'm very cautious and considerate with my moshing. True, I've lost 3 pairs of glasses and have a fairly healthy scar on my forehead due to the pit, but I've shouldered the weight of many a stage-diver and dragged countless people from the jaws of the moshing beast. When I'm too tired to mosh I stand about in the no-mans-land between pit and non-pit to protect those that don't wish to partake. I'm also totally respectful of the barrier huggers - they seem to have enough issues amongst themselves without my input.

I used to have a plan to make a really good documentary about mosh pit culture, y'know, the good, the bad, the ugly sides.

Shit's deep and it could be great fun trying to gather together the various bits of camcorder footage from all the old punks that could give people an insight into that world. Yo Yauch! You know Oscilloscope could do this idea better than anyone right? (Unless I'm of touch and someone has already done justice to this idea - if so, link me please(y))

Otherwise, if you can't take the heat, get out the kitchen (Or maybe get a friend to help you crowd-surf the 'kitchen roof'?)

Ummm, yeah, the Mix Up and gala shows were very mellow, and the Boys aren't getting any younger, but they really do smash the place everytime with the hardcore joints - heart attack, egg raid, tough guy..................ah, heaven!