holy mother freakin shit

[ericlee]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html

Man decapitates another on Greyhound bus in Canada.

[HEIRESS]

I ALREADY POSTED THIS BEFORE LUNCH DAMMIT!

the 7 minute interview off my link with the dude who was sitting infront of them is chilling. straight up chilling.

his super canadian accent is cute too.

[Freebasser]

Well, technically, I posted it first; I mean if we're being pedantic about it.

[HEIRESS]

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/horrific-ride/#clip70840

[Audio.]

mad world. I can only say the the kind of feelings I have for this incident... pity, sadness, anger... fierce anger unexpected. There is no fear but anger towards the killer and perhaps pity if this killer lost moral concisions or any least bit of concisions.

[ericlee]

I ALREADY POSTED THIS BEFORE LUNCH DAMMIT!

the 7 minute interview off my link with the dude who was sitting infront of them is chilling. straight up chilling.

his super canadian accent is cute too.



Sorry, I'm at work viewing threads on my iPhone and keeping an eye out for my supervisor at the same time.

But wow.

[ms.peachy]

Man. Those poor people on that bus :(

[Loppfessor]

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/horrific-ride/#clip70840

LMAO...I love when the reporter asks him if he's ever seen anything like this before and he's like "No...uh...no i never saw anyone decapitated before" Meanwhile this is some f'd up shit right here

[b i o n i c]

dang.

[tejana]

i like how the killer carried the head around for a bit, made eye contact with the survivors, and dropped the head.

i tell ya, canadians are trouble!!

[TurdBerglar]

i could have sworn i posted something in this thread and now it's gone

[ericlee]

i like how the killer carried the head around for a bit, made eye contact with the survivors, and dropped the head.

i tell ya, canadians are trouble!!

dude, in a movie it would be cool but IRL, man, I can't even joke about it. This guy who was brutally murdered in public view of 37 people most likely has parents that are still around to know about this and live through it.

Sorry to be all serious but I'm still a little shocked. There's been alot of violence at random going on here, people riding a bike up to pedestrians and slashing them with knives.

Expect bus security to be as tight as airport security. I think this is a good reason to tighten it up a bit.

[QueenAdrock]

The greyhound was from Edmonton to Winnipeg, too. Crazy shit, I drove that long stretch of road just last summer. I can't imagine how long it took police to get there, it's literally cutting through the middle of nothing. Just rolling hills for miles.

I want to know more about the victim and the killer, I don't think they've released anything yet....

[ericlee]

I was thinking about queenie and droppin when I was reading this. Close to home type stuff for you.

Latest update is the killer was in his 40s. That's about it.

I'm just wondering, of 37 people on the bus. Not one person trying to stop him? Cmon.

[ms.peachy]

I'm just wondering, of 37 people on the bus. Not one person trying to stop him? Cmon.

Honestly? If I'm sitting on a bus and some psycho starts wildly stabbing someone with a huge knife, my reaction would probably be "I'm getting the hell out of here."

The other thing too, is, think about what the space inside a Greyhound bus is like. There was probably so much confusion that only the people sitting closest would have actually known what was happening, the rest of the group would have just known that some bad shit was going down and to stay away.

[ericlee]

Honestly? If I'm sitting on a bus and some psycho starts wildly stabbing someone with a huge knife, my reaction would probably be "I'm getting the hell out of here."

The other thing too, is, think about what the space inside a Greyhound bus is like. There was probably so much confusion that only the people sitting closest would have actually known what was happening, the rest of the group would have just known that some bad shit was going down and to stay away.

I know. It's one of anyone's nightmares coming true.

Just tired of hearing the "everyone panicked and ran off" scenario.

It's just people's first instinct of "gotta save my ass first" that gets me.

So I don't have a knife. The guy who is getting diced up doesn't have one, let's all just run off.

Maybe there were some people trying to stop it. I'm just reading clippings for now.

[Lyman Zerga]

i cant do much with my 5'3 size alone but with a gun i would have stopped him

[QueenAdrock]

From what I've heard, by the time people realized what was going on, the kid was probably already dead by then. The guy started stabbing him in the throat, which is a pretty fast way to die.

However, it was good to hear that people were able to keep him on the bus and got weapons and such. Apparently he tried taking swipes at other passengers, too. It's a good thing that he wasn't able to get to anyone else, at least.

[QueenAdrock]

Looks like they've identified both:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/08/01/canada.beheading/index.html

[saz]

the killer was reported to be well over six feet tall, and two hundred-plus pounds. the knife he used was a very large carving or tactical knife, and he had already stabbed the victim multiple times before witnesses saw what was happening. and when they did finally see, the victim was stabbed in the neck or throat.

apparently the killer also engaged in cannibalism (http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/471031).

[ms.peachy]

Just tired of hearing the "everyone panicked and ran off" scenario.

It's just people's first instinct of "gotta save my ass first" that gets me.


Dude, I have a kid. My priority in life is to be here on Earth for her. I'm real real sorry for the guy who got killed, and his family. But at the end of the day, my kid needs a living mom more than a dead hero.

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm pretty sure the appropriate thing to do when dealing with a complete and utter psychopath is to get away from him. the kid was mortally wounded before anyone realized what was happening. and jesus christ, they probably couldn't even process the situation. I think the passengers reacted appropriately, they trapped him in the bus and no one else was injured.

what a strange and horrible thing to happen. I'd like to know what the deal with the killer is though. because that is bat shit crazy behavior. maybe he is a robot.

[Lyman Zerga]

Dude, I have a kid. My priority in life is to be here on Earth for her. I'm real real sorry for the guy who got killed, and his family. But at the end of the day, my kid needs a living mom more than a dead hero.

im pretty sure you would have reacted the same way without a kid

[ericlee]

everybody did the right thing- nobody else got hurt. If my daughter were on the bus with me and something like this happened, I'd make sure she and I get off first.

I was just in shock and amazed and full of thoughts when I read this. Kinda like being speechless but babbling.

[hpdrifter]

Yeah, the others on the bus must have been terrified. I think the fact that they had the wherewithal to trap him on the bus is more than I would expect.

What a horrible tragedy.

[Loppfessor]

As much as I would like to think I might have done something...I'll be honest I probably woulda ran like everyone else at least long enough to group up and get weapons like they did. Taking on a knife wielding maniac bare handed is not heroic is kind of stupid...

[checkyourprez]

Dude, I have a kid. My priority in life is to be here on Earth for her. I'm real real sorry for the guy who got killed, and his family. But at the end of the day, my kid needs a living mom more than a dead hero.

until he comes after you, and than you wish there were some heroes on that bus.

[ericlee]

As much as I would like to think I might have done something...I'll be honest I probably woulda ran like everyone else at least long enough to group up and get weapons like they did. Taking on a knife wielding maniac bare handed is not heroic is kind of stupid...



It would be nice if they had some type of security personnel riding the buses now. Equipped with tazers or whatever.

[Bob]

Yeah, the others on the bus must have been terrified. I think the fact that they had the wherewithal to trap him on the bus is more than I would expect.

What a horrible tragedy.

if i remember the story right, it was actually a passing trucker who stopped and helped block up the doors

truckers are the alpha and the omega of society

[fucktopgirl]

It would be nice if they had some type of security personnel riding the buses now. Equipped with tazers or whatever.


Not quite sure about this one!

[paul jones]

I'm too scared to look at the links.I'll have nightmares(y)

[ms.peachy]

im pretty sure you would have reacted the same way without a kid

until he comes after you, and than you wish there were some heroes on that bus.


You're right in that my initial reaction (i.e., get the hell our of here) would be the same. I think that, unless you are a person who has had some sort of training in dealing with violent, confrontational situations (cops, military, medics, 'first responders', etc), that would be most people's first instinct. But I like to think that I have a pretty cool head and once removed from immediate danger, that I would be capable of assessing whether or not I have skills that could contribute positively in the overall situation (for example, I am a qualified first aider) or if it would be better for me to stay out of the way of others who may be better prepared to handle the circumstances. Having a child definitely would be a factor in deciding how involved I am willing to get, though.

[Lyman Zerga]

stop being so human!

[ericlee]

You're right in that my initial reaction (i.e., get the hell our of here) would be the same. I think that, unless you are a person who has had some sort of training in dealing with violent, confrontational situations (cops, military, medics, 'first responders', etc), that would be most people's first instinct. But I like to think that I have a pretty cool head and once removed from immediate danger, that I would be capable of assessing whether or not I have skills that could contribute positively in the overall situation (for example, I am a qualified first aider) or if it would be better for me to stay out of the way of others who may be better prepared to handle the circumstances. Having a child definitely would be a factor in deciding how involved I am willing to get, though.

I worked in a cell block for 12 hours a day, dealing with some wacko convicts so, that's where I was coming from. I also deal with alot of drunken and psychotic homeless people quite often now and I have to throw them off the property.

Matter of fact, my first day at the location, some drunk just started swinging at random employees walking out of my building so I had to throw him to the ground and keep him there till the cops came.

Not everyone is trained for such things or have kids with them, etc. I can respect that.

I wish I didn't bring up the whole topic, what's done is done. I just hope everyone who was there to witness it handle it well.

[ms.peachy]

I worked in a cell block for 12 hours a day, dealing with some wacko convicts so, that's where I was coming from.

I get that, I'm not having a go at you for bringing it up. It's great when, in crazy situations like this one, there is at least one person with the skill/experience to automatically take the bull by the horns, so to speak. But sometimes there just isn't, or it takes a few moments to pull it together. I was talking with some friends about this yesterday, and one of them compared it to the people on Flight 93; you know, this crazy violent incomprehensible situation is unfolding, and what do you do? There's no good outcome one way or the other. At least in this case the bus driver, the one passenger and the truck driver had the presence of mind to manage to contain the guy.