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MC Moot
08-27-2008, 11:10 AM
They must have starred in 1 Western film and 1 War film...there are exceptions...like DeNiro never did a duster...every boy wants to play cowboy or soldier at one point...you could probably include playing a cop to the list as well....hmmmmmm....(lb)
ToucanSpam
08-27-2008, 12:02 PM
While a lot of great actors fit your requirements, this is still bunk.

Also, defining an actor as 'great' is completely subjective.
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 12:04 PM
I disagree with your premise.

I haven't checked yet, but I'm trying to think of when Jeremy Irons, Daniel Day Lewis, Willem DeFoe, John Cazale, or Philip Seymour Hoffman did westerns.

Last of the Mohicans doesn't count as a western, by the way.
Waus
08-27-2008, 12:13 PM
I've got a theory too!

"War" and "Western" are popular and broad themes for movies, and many great actors have been in both types!

Of course there are exceptions.
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 12:14 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is too fat to ride a horse,P.E.T.A and the S.P.C.A would be all over that...:D
ToucanSpam
08-27-2008, 12:15 PM
I disagree with your premise.

I haven't checked yet, but I'm trying to think of when Jeremy Irons, Daniel Day Lewis, Willem DeFoe, John Cazale, or Philip Seymour Hoffman did westerns.

Last of the Mohicans doesn't count as a western, by the way.

Defoe did Platoon. Not that I'm defending this stupid premise.
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 12:20 PM
and hey it's just a notion not a requisite...:rolleyes:
ToucanSpam
08-27-2008, 12:33 PM
It's still bunk good sir. Bunk.


It's about as stupid as saying all great actors have won Oscars.:rolleyes:
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 12:35 PM
It's still bunk good sir. Bunk.


It's about as stupid as saying all great actors have won Oscars.:rolleyes:

oh dear,auditions not going well luv?...or is that ya still can't find the cod?

;)
Waus
08-27-2008, 12:38 PM
The earmark of great actors is longevity. A symptom of longevity is variety. Variety has tendencies toward popularity. War and Western are popular. It's not so much that it's really bad idea - it just seems obvious.

It's fun to try to think of "great" actors who haven't been in westerns or war movies though. It's easier to criticize than create, thanks MC Moot! :)
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 12:54 PM
I think it's also kinda interesting to think of great actors who you may not think have hit either genre but indeed they have...say like...John Cusack and Matt Damon...(y)
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 12:59 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is too fat to ride a horse,P.E.T.A and the S.P.C.A would be all over that...:D



Naw. If Slim Pickens could do it, PSH could do it.

Or he could be the barkeep or something.
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Defoe did Platoon. Not that I'm defending this stupid premise.


Is Platoon a Western, also?

Moot said one of each.
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 01:01 PM
Has Ryan Gosling been in a Western yet?

The problem with Westerns is that they're kinda dying off, so the coming generations are going to have way less chances.
ToucanSpam
08-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Is Platoon a Western, also?

Moot said one of each.

You know you overlooked Platoon dammit.:D
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 01:05 PM
Naw. If Slim Pickens could do it, PSH could do it.

Or he could be the barkeep or something.

Well...he was pretty good as the preacher in "Cold Mountain"...although I'm sure you won't give that to me as a western either...:D
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Has Ryan Gosling been in a Western yet?

The problem with Westerns is that they're kinda dying off, so the coming generations are going to have way less chances.

It seems we get 1 or 2 a year now...last year was allright with "The Assassination of Jesse James" and "3:10 to Yuma"...I think the audience for them has dramatically declined...but if you re-invision the premise like in say "The Proposition" you can still find gold in them thar hills...
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 01:13 PM
Well...he was pretty good as the preacher in "Cold Mountain"...although I'm sure you won't give that to me as a western either...:D


I'd give that one to you, actually.

If McCabe & Mrs. Miller is a Western, Cold Mountain can be, too.

But Last of the Mohicans is more of an adventure story, sort of pre-Western.
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 01:14 PM
It seems we get 1 or 2 a year now...last year was allright with "The Assassination of Jesse James" and "3:10 to Yuma"...I think the audience for them has dramatically declined...but if you re-invision the premise like in say "The Proposition" you can still find gold in them thar hills...



No problem with The Proposition, either. That was more authentic than Yuma.
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Know what else?...I consider flicks like "Lonestar","The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada" and "No Country For Old Men" to be post-modern westerns...now that's a premise...:D
abcdefz
08-27-2008, 03:37 PM
See, now -- McCabe was the first one of those, I think.

Was Alec Guiness ever in a Western? Peter O'Toole?
ToucanSpam
08-27-2008, 03:44 PM
I don't think Christopher Lee was ever in a Western, either.
MC Moot
08-27-2008, 04:08 PM
yeah...well I guess being a clasically trained Shakespearean actor doesn't lend itself to well to six shooter cinema...but Richard Harris would beg to differ...

A plague on you. A plague on the whole stinking lot of ya, without morals or laws. And all you whores got no laws. You got no honor. It's no wonder you all emigrated to America, because they wouldn't have you in England. You're a lot of savages, that's what you all are. A bunch of bloody savages. A plague on you. I'll be back...