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Mike Tattoo
09-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Youtube : Webster Tarpley Obama Manchurian Candidate.

Webster Tarpley’s an interesting guy. He wrote “The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush” in the 1980s (you can find the whole book online for free) and was one of the first people to document Prescott Bush finical backing of Hitler and how his company was seized under the Trading with The Enemy Act. He brings that kind of perspective to the table.

The focus of his argument is who is backing Obama, brains or the Karl Rove of the Obama campaign is his foreign policy adviser Zbigniew K Brzeninski. Zbigniew Brzeninski is the cofounder of the Trilateral Commission (BIG, BIG money people) with David Rockefeller and was also Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser. In that role, he helped to instigate the Russian Afghanistan war that killed some 1,000,000 people (Footnote #1) and also financed Pol Pot and the Kymer Rouge that later killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians (Footnote #2)

So I think it’s odd that there’s a mass murder that creates Vietnam style wars for a living that is now going to be put back in the White House by the Democrats and Leftists under a “change we can believe in” platform and there is absolutely no dialog about this issue whatsoever online.

It’s like everyone is so caught up in an “Anybody but Bush” hysteria and like the idea of voting for a charismatic Black democrat without taking the time to research who is backing this guy. And it seems like any kind of debate on this topic quickly dovetails into racism allegations or personal attacks.

So I’ll throw this out for the group to mull over - Zbigniew Brzeninski, the guy who is responsible for creating Vietnam style wars that have killed over 3 million people, is about to be put right back into the White House. By the Democrats.

Discuss -

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Footnote # 1


January 15, 1998: Former National Security Adviser Has No Regrets Giving ‘Arms and Advice to Future Terrorists’

In an interview, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter’s National Security Adviser, admits that it was US policy to support radical Islamists to undermine Russia. He admits that US covert action drew Russia into starting the Afghan war in 1979 (see July 3, 1979). Asked if he has regrets about this, he responds, “Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.” Then he is asked if he regrets “having given arms and advice to future terrorists,” and he responds, “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?” The interviewer then says, “Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.” But Brzezinski responds, “Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam….” [LE NOUVEL OBSERVATEUR (PARIS), 1/15/1998] Even after 9/11, Brzezinski will maintain that the covert action program remains justified. [NATION, 10/25/2001]


Footnote #2

1980-1986: China and US Support Kymer Rouge

China and the US sustain the Khmer Rouge with overt and covert aid in an effort to destabilize Cambodia’s Vietnam-backed government. With US backing, China supplies the Khmer Rouge with direct military aid. Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security adviser during the administration of President Carter, will later acknowledge, “I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot…. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could never support him, but China could.” Between 1979 and 1981, the World Food Program, which was strongly under US influence, provides nearly $12 million in food aid Thailand. Much of this aid makes its way to the Khmer Rouge. Two American relief aid workers, Linda Mason and Roger Brown, will later recount, “Thailand, the country that hosted the relief operation, and the US government, which funded the bulk of the relief operation, insisted that the Khmer Rouge be fed.” By the late 1980s, US aid is officially at $5 million. But this is supplemented significantly by secret CIA support to the tune of between $20 and $24 million. In total, perhaps as much as $85 million is ultimately funneled to Pol Pot’s group through various channels. The US and China are also responsible for the Khmer Rouge retaining its seat at the UN General Assembly. During this period, Khmer Rouge fighters attack “Cambodian villages, seed minefields, kill peasants and make off with their rice and cattle… [—] But they never seriously… [threaten] the Phnom Penh government.” [BLUM, 1995; Z MAGAZINE, 1997; COVERT ACTION QUARTERLY, 1998 ]

travesty
09-07-2008, 10:11 PM
The Trilateral Commission is some scary shit. They are leading the way to the North American Union and we are all following just like lemmings..

Mike Tattoo
09-09-2008, 03:47 PM
The Trilateral Commission is some scary shit. They are leading the way to the North American Union and we are all following just like lemmings..

Well some people are fighting it. Look at what happened in Texas where they stopped the superhighway. People are resisting.

But you’re right, most people are following along like brainwashed zombies. I expect my TV to lie to me. That’s a given. But it’s really disappointing when people that I respect and that I think should sure as hell know better, start acting like brainwashed zombies.

I really like and respect Yauch. I think he’s a intelligent and insightful guy. So it’s really depressing to see that someone who has championed for the Dali Lama and Tibet causes is now trying to put a mass murder who helped finance the killing of over 2 million Cambodians back into the White House.

I guess you could claim ignorance of that at first...

But once you are presented with that information you can’t claim ignorance of it anymore.

So how do you justify that? How can you be all about "Free Tibet" for over a decade now and then say "I’m OK with 1 million dead people in Afghanistan. I’m OK with 2 million dead people in Cambodia. And I’m OK with even more Vietnam type wars breaking out in the future brought to you from the very same guy. I'm OK with that."

How can you justify that?

Mike Tattoo
09-25-2008, 02:17 PM
Obama voted in favor of the March 2, 2006 Renewal of the Patriot Act

If he had voted for the Patriot Act originally in 2001 you could give him the benefit of the doubt. The Patriot Act was originally rushed through Congress, most people didn’t even have the time to read it, and everyone was still in a state of shock after 9/11. You could argue all those points.

But, no. FIVE YEARS after 9/11, when it should be apparent to anyone who hasn’t been brainwashed what a complete load of crap Bush has been selling us.

THREE YEARS AFTER the disastrous invasion of Iraq.

Obama sides with Bush and gleefully votes to renew the Patriot Act.

That’s the guy who has been selling you on the “Change we can believe in” marketing campaign and America is eating it up.

Fan with a fan
09-25-2008, 03:24 PM
You two are blowing my mind - I can see that I haven't scratched the surface of researching Obama...



Would you mind revealing what candidate has your support?

travesty
09-25-2008, 03:51 PM
None of the above! Just kidding, right now I am leaning toward Bob Barr. I tend to lean a little to the right and I just can't get on board with McCain or Tina Fey. I am not a big fan of libertarian social policies, that's where they lose me but Barr seems to be getting some decent attention. I know many say it is a waste to vote third party but I see it otherwise. If Nader can get just about 1% of the popular vote in 2004 and Barr can get 2-3% or more (as polls are showing) this year, then maybe with continued support we can have a legitimate third party candidate within a few more a election cycles. Baby steps, Keep hope alive. If I can help my kids have more choice when it's their turn to vote, I'll feel pretty good.

Mike Tattoo
09-25-2008, 06:26 PM
Right now, today, I will vote for ANYONE that has the guts to say "FUCK THE BAILOUT!"

Congress is about to screw us all royally by passing this bailout bill, the financial equivalent of The Patriot Act.

Chances are, Obama will vote for it just like he voted to RENEW the Patriot Act March 2, 2006

The bailout is going to help the exact same companies that have been jacking up the price of oil. Don’t you think it’s odd that gas has been so cheap lately ($3.77 in the Bay Area is what passes for cheap these days) the same week that Wall Street has been all kinds of fucked up and looking for a handout? Here’s why

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW57L_jP4vU


Best thing you can do is pick up the phone and call your Congressman. Tell them that if they vote for the bailout you will vote them out of office. Here’s a list of California reps


Senator Dianne Feinstein (D- CA)
202-224-3841

Senator Barbara Boxer (D- CA)
202-224-3553

Representative Jackie Speier (D - 12)
202-225-3531

Here’s another eloquently put speech on just how fucked up this bailout is

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=mbD62gNi9WE

God must really hate us if this thing passes ...

Fan with a fan
09-25-2008, 06:50 PM
For what it's worth -
I'll call. (Did already, but offices are closed.)

Thanks.

Mike Tattoo
09-25-2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks, Man!

Barbara Boxer voice mail box is full, but Dianne Feinstein seems to have a staff of people, I spoke too 3 different reps today.

THEY MIGHT TRY AND RUSH THIS THROUGH AS SOON AS FRIDAY.

Pick up the phone and call these people tomorrow and keep on calling them. No need to be rude or say anything that might get you in trouble. Just be sure to let them know that the world is watching and we will hold them accountable.

Thank you all -

Mike Tattoo
09-26-2008, 02:26 PM
I’m liking this Marcy Kaptur Senator a lot. That’s a very real speech, she even chokes a bit at the end which is what human beings tend to do every now and then when they get all worked up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbD62gNi9WE&feature=related

Looks like the bailout has stalled for today. Good. I’m still calling all of my Congressmen every hour and letting them know that they’re not off the hook. Here’s one of the top cheerleaders of the bailout. Be sure to leave her a message before the end of today letting her know that if she votes for any kind of bailout, you, your family, your co-workers, and every single human being that you know will vote against her for the rest of her life.

Nancy Pelosi
202 225-0100

Mike Tattoo
10-02-2008, 12:24 AM
Talk shit about Obama, go to jail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LTXa3pGkkI&feature=related

Freedom of speach...watch what you say

Mike Tattoo
10-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Excellent videos.
Pass on to anyone who is still on the fence about Baraking the vote...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJCMWcoms


It fucking kills me how gullible the America children are these days.

1) Obama voted for the FISA act. He’s down for spying on Americans. Everyone tore Bush apart for that but Obama gets a pass from the media and is perfectly OK with it.

2) Obama voted to RENEW the Patriot Act on March 2, 2006. Fascism you can believe in!

3) And most heinous of all, not only did Obama vote for the bailout, he was also one of its main cheerleaders (because he’s a complete 100% slave to Wall Street) and personally campaigned to get several representatives to switch their votes.

The same people on TV that brought you the lie of 9/11, the lie of the Iraq war, are now peddling the Obama lie 24/7. And the American children are eating it up.

Fuck McCain.
Fuck Bush.
But most of all, FUCK OBAMA


Here’s our future America. This is the blueprint for 2009 and beyond.

Read or bleed, people. Learn or burn ....

The most politically significant portion of Biden's remarks came when he admitted that the decisions of an Obama-Biden administration were likely to be deeply unpopular, and he called on the Democratic Party regulars to stand behind the new president even when public opinion turned against him.

"He's going to need help," Biden said. "He's going to need you—not financially to help him—we're going to need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not going to be apparent initially, it's not going to be apparent that we're right."

He continued, "There are going to be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision.' Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Here is the voice of a longtime representative of the financial aristocracy, voicing his contempt for public opinion—"if decisions are popular, they're probably not sound"—and warning his wealthy audience that the new Obama-Biden administration will have to defy public opinion to carry out its policies. Biden's language suggests that the ferocity of the new administration's response will shock not only public opinion, but even its own supporters.

Bob
10-29-2008, 06:47 PM
so i'm confused, is obama a fascist, or a socialist? i'm being pulled in two directions here

King PSYZ
10-29-2008, 08:46 PM
I don't even know where to start... I do find it funny that those manily vocal in this thread don't really post in this fourm on a regular basis... very interesting...

DroppinScience
10-29-2008, 09:54 PM
I don't even know where to start... I do find it funny that those manily vocal in this thread don't really post in this fourm on a regular basis... very interesting...

This thread is like a Ron Paul convention. I guess that's what Paulville would look like...

saz
10-29-2008, 11:32 PM
1) Obama voted for the FISA act. He’s down for spying on Americans. Everyone tore Bush apart for that but Obama gets a pass from the media and is perfectly OK with it.

2) Obama voted to RENEW the Patriot Act on March 2, 2006. Fascism you can believe in!

3) And most heinous of all, not only did Obama vote for the bailout, he was also one of its main cheerleaders (because he’s a complete 100% slave to Wall Street) and personally campaigned to get several representatives to switch their votes.

spot on. this is what is wrong with the democratic party.

Mike Tattoo
10-30-2008, 02:32 PM
“I don't even know where to start... I do find it funny that those manily vocal in this thread don't really post in this fourm on a regular basis... very interesting...”

Honestly I really don’t have that much else to say.

I just wanted to consolidate all of the damming research done on Obama into one thread and update that as time goes on. When shit really hits the fan, as both Biden and Powell are conditioning us to expect, I guess people can jump in with “I told you so!”.

Right now, I just want a single thread to document that research. Feel free to add to it or rip it apart.

kaiser soze
10-30-2008, 02:42 PM
The shit has already hit the fan and many people believe Obama will handle it better than mccain.

Mike Tattoo
10-30-2008, 04:08 PM
“The shit has already hit the fan and many people believe Obama will handle it better than mccain.”

There’s some truth in that statement... but probably not in the way that you might have intended.

Everyone hates McCain. That’s a given. If he were elected he would be a lame duck 1 term president unable to get anything done. If you were the New World Order, would you really want McCain representing you?

Obama is a much better representative for the New World Order. A part black, part/maybe Muslim. That’s a great facelift for the New World Order. You want someone to start blowing up shit in Africa and starting a new cold war with Russia and China and actually getting the support of the United States AND parts of Europe, then Obama’s your man.

kaiser soze
10-30-2008, 04:51 PM
Blowing shit up in Africa?

I must've missed that campaign ad

The idea of a New World Order was heavily embraced by the Republicans under Bush I, specially the GOP consisting of many players trying to establish the PNAC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

DroppinScience
10-30-2008, 06:12 PM
Yes, the Mole People and the Illuminati are controlling the world. :rolleyes: