Kanye's New Single "Love Lockdown"

[Jitters]

Live at VMA's if you haven't heard. (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.5642/title.kanye-west-lock-lockdown-live)

Let's discuss.

[checkyourprez]

this song sounds perfect for gay clubs. not that i've ever been to a gay club, but id imagine they play stuff that sounds like this.

this definatly is not rap or hip hop. hes really going that pop artist route now a days.


3/10

[Nygel]

rappers rap
singers sing
rappers sing with auto tuner becuase they cant sing
wtf?

[taquitos]

y do so many ppl bash the ppl who like music that they dont,, to the dude above me, no disrespect but if yu think the song sucks thats cool but y do yu have to b condescending towards ppl who enjoy it,, the auto tune shit is kinda lame, the beat is kinda simple but i still feel the vibe, the emotion,, and this is not hip hop fyi, not sure how to categorize it in all truth

[checkyourprez]

y do so many ppl bash the ppl who like music that they dont,, to the dude above me, no disrespect but if yu think the song sucks thats cool but y do yu have to b condescending towards ppl who enjoy it,, the auto tune shit is kinda lame, the beat is kinda simple but i still feel the vibe, the emotion,, and this is not hip hop fyi, not sure how to categorize it in all truth

i didnt see anyone bashing the people who like this music. like it out the ass. fine with me. the song is just on some really sellout type of shit, thats my problem with it.

and im a person who really like all kinds of music. i have a huge pallet when it comes to different music. i have no problem with rappers doing "real music" or branching out type of thing. a lot of stuff the rza has done latley falls into that category and i like a lot of it. but this is kanye song is just straight cheese ball.

[Jitters]

rappers sing with auto tuner becuase they cant sing
wtf?

I am flat out tired of the auto tune craze. It's already pretty played out but Kanye's been using it on the last handful of songs he's been on or produced and it just makes him seem even more lttp.

I might not even mind this song so much if he didn't use auto-tune. He does it with some emotion so there's at least that going for it.

[mate_spawn_die]

eh

[Lex Diamonds]

What the fuck, Kanye. Check yourself.

[pshabi]

I've been down with Kanye from before the start, but damn. I agree w/ Paddy. (n)

[kaiser soze]

Sexual Seduction, seduction...

[Nygel]

to the dude above me, no disrespect but if yu think the song sucks thats cool but y do yu have to b condescending towards ppl who enjoy it,
i never addressed the song sirs.

i will now though
i love kanye, i don't like this, though the quality is shit so i need a studio release before i judge. I just addressed the mass use of an auto tuner on people who can't sing well. Katy Perry anyone?

[adam_f]

It sounds like the spawn of Flashing Lights and Drunk and Hot Girls.

[roosta]

It's easily the worst thing he's ever done.

Pretty bad.

[adam_f]

Remember when Kanye wore a backpack and made good music? Me neither.

[Randetica]

seems like a good thing that the link doesn work for me

[Tzar]

remember when we had that discussion about who is more street; fiddy or kanye? the consensus was kanye was more street.....?

yeeeeah. kanye has fallen off his horse.

[checkyourprez]

remember when we had that discussion about who is more street; fiddy or kanye? the consensus was kanye was more street.....?

yeeeeah. kanye has fallen off his horse.

kanye was never street. he just didnt make gay music.

[Jitters]

Please, no...... (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.7674) :(

[YoungRemy]

Do you believe in life after love?
I can feel something inside me say
I really don't think you're strong enough, no

[HEIRESS]

I like it. though I prefer the live VMA version over the album version.
so what if he's not rapping. and who cares if they say his singing sucks, I dont mind it. lots of bad singers can still put out a good song. I doubt the lead singer of clapyourhandssayyeah ever sang in a gospel choir but I still enjoy the shit out of that band.

[jennyb]

Oh Kanye... tsk tsk tsk, finds himself in a tussel today (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/11/kanye.west.arrested/index.html) at LAX.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by HEIRESS
so what if he's not rapping.

HE IS A RAPPER

[checkyourprez]

I like it. though I prefer the live VMA version over the album version.
so what if he's not rapping. and who cares if they say his singing sucks, I dont mind it. lots of bad singers can still put out a good song. I doubt the lead singer of clapyourhandssayyeah ever sang in a gospel choir but I still enjoy the shit out of that band.

HE IS A RAPPER

thats the point though. you can like it. if it floats your boat, your boat is floatin.

but it doesnt make the dude not gay for doing it.

im really strapped for an example, even though i know there are tons of them out there i just am tired from work (someone help me out with a better one), but ill say its like limp bizkit. hear me out. the first album they came out with was hard. real music, within that vein. than they started putting out all that uber gay shit. now you can still like that uber gay shit. people probably did/do (albiet a small amount). but it doesnt change the fact there was a shift in music from point A (good) to point B (gay!).

[HEIRESS]

I refuse to discuss the moot point of the "gayness" of rappers not rapping. or of any musician switching genres, cause that's what it boils down to.
bob dylan should have stopped after his first couple of albums if that's the case. Im not comparing kanye singing an entire song and not rapping with dylan going electric on any epic terms but in regards to their evolution as individual artists I am.

regardless, the dude's momma died. hes allowed to wallow in his grief anyway he wants and if it results in a slighty catchy tune(imo) which peter frampton would be proud of and which isnt rap. then so be it.

[checkyourprez]

I refuse to discuss the moot point of the "gayness" of rappers not rapping. or of any musician switching genres, cause that's what it boils down to.
bob dylan should have stopped after his first couple of albums if that's the case. Im not comparing kanye singing an entire song and not rapping with dylan going electric on any epic terms but in regards to their evolution as individual artists I am.

regardless, the dude's momma died. hes allowed to wallow in his grief anyway he wants and if it results in a slighty catchy tune(imo) which peter frampton would be proud of and which isnt rap. then so be it.

dont misinterpret what im saying when i talk about the shift. the shift doesnt always have to be a bad one like i described. there can be a shift from A (good music) to B (different, but yet still equally good music).

the beastie boys are a great example of that.

kanyes shift just isnt the case. that song is just cornball cheesepuff stuff. its catchy and can be liked, but it is what it is.

[DJ_Skrilla]

Arrested....
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1788889337

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWqKLQFqflw

From Kanye's Blog. It's pretty cool because this sounds like a rough version. If you listen closely you can hear him clapping during the hook!
Thoughts?? Comments? Tell me what ya'll think of the new single!!?? From his upcoming album 808's and Heartbreak!!!

http://www.zshare.net/audio/185469496521ed74

[Kid Presentable]

This is as close as he's gotten to experimenting....I like it.

[adam_f]

He struck gold with Flashing Lights and I Wonder off the last album. This wasn't necessary.

[pshabi]

I refuse to discuss the moot point of the "gayness" of rappers not rapping. or of any musician switching genres, cause that's what it boils down to.
bob dylan should have stopped after his first couple of albums if that's the case. Im not comparing kanye singing an entire song and not rapping with dylan going electric on any epic terms but in regards to their evolution as individual artists I am.

regardless, the dude's momma died. hes allowed to wallow in his grief anyway he wants and if it results in a slighty catchy tune(imo) which peter frampton would be proud of and which isnt rap. then so be it.

I don't think people hate it because it's a rapper doing something that isn't rap. I think people hate it because it's an artist doing a song that is complete shit.

I may be wrong.

[cubsfirstplace]

wow this song is terrible. probably kanye's worst song. he sounds like a singer singing for the first time on the chorus

[adam_f]

Originally posted by pshabi
I don't think people hate it because it's a rapper doing something that isn't rap. I think people hate it because it's an artist doing a song that is complete shit.

I don't have a problem with a rapper trying to experiment, but it's the Autotune I have a problem with. When Andre 3000 and Phonte sing, I like it because it's actually their voices over the track, rather than a robot version of themselves. I don't really care if Kanye sings or not, but if he's going to, at least don't jump on a bandwagon that has driven away already.

[Nygel]

yep, i'm solely basing it on the auto tuner. i dont like the drums in the track either.
okay, after listening to the studio version a little longer.. i dont like it. And i really like kanye.

[adam_f]

This song makes me miss the College Dropout. I love that album.

[BBboy20]

I miss the College Dropout and Late Registration.

[Audio.]

eh, after his gig with Jamie Fox I was alright with his songs until he kept acting like a little self-fisting bitch for attention and dissing other musicians and thinking he is superior out in public. Later, trying to make a record with those who beat his ass in some award show by making a secret non-public apology to get some good ties.


(lb)
Kanye West
VVVVVV

GO FIST YUR SERF.

[faz]

Oh, fifty :rolleyes: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyGhmcHj-t4)

[checkyourprez]

im actually siding with 50 on this one.

[Nygel]

OH DAMN, MUMBLES STRUCK BACK

i wished he would have died trying.

[SobaViolence]

shame on kanye for doing what he wants with his art. that rat bastard should totally make another college dropout. i mean, who wants to hear something new?

art is supposed to be challenging. if you don't like it, i think it's goin' down, joc on BET

[adam_f]

Originally posted by SobaViolence
i mean, who wants to hear something new?

There is one glaring difference.

I just want to hear something good.

[BBboy20]

im actually siding with 50 on this one.It was rather amusing.

[SobaViolence]

There is one glaring difference.

I just want to hear something good.

fair enough

[roosta]

this autotune shit needs to stop. sounds awful.

[Nygel]

this autotune shit needs to stop. sounds awful.
IT DOES NOT SOUND AWFUL!

alright, it does now cuz everyone uses it. wonder if T-Pain is going to retire now.

[Jitters]

Album is coming sooner than expected....... it's actually done.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.7766

[roosta]

IT DOES NOT SOUND AWFUL!

alright, it does now cuz everyone uses it. wonder if T-Pain is going to retire now.

listen to busta rhyme's new song "Arab Money" it completely ruins the chorus.* Horrible, horrible, effect.

*chorus/song isnt great to begin with, but the effect makes it much worse.

[Parkey]

Video (http://ellen.warnerbros.com/)

[adam_f]

For some reason I don't hate this song anymore.

[HEIRESS]

heeey. I liked that.

[Dharma]

a true artist experiments ... I really like this song ...I have pretty much enjoyed everything Kanye has done, I hate repetition..I hope he keeps stepping outside the box.

[checkyourprez]

a true artist experiments ... I really like this song ...I have pretty much enjoyed everything Kanye has done, I hate repetition..I hope he keeps stepping outside the box.

hey if he wants to experiment he can go suck a penis. yeezy needs to stick to the hip hop or start touring with hanna montana and b spears.

[Dharma]

^now you're just being retarded.

I saw this coming after "hey mama" ...I knew he was on his was to inventing something new ...a sound/genre all his own.

Your probably still a fan of the Beastie Boys, therefor you live in the 80's. They don't understand the word evolving...same old shit.

[checkyourprez]

^denied.

[Parkey]

Live (http://videos.onsmash.com/v/Y2kFir2ZLaNaz2qQ) I really like it...

[Nygel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7G-o9oUnvc
without ellen.

[Lex Diamonds]

^now you're just being retarded.

I saw this coming after "hey mama" ...I knew he was on his was to inventing something new ...a sound/genre all his own.

Your probably still a fan of the Beastie Boys, therefor you live in the 80's. They don't understand the word evolving...same old shit.
You're making a complete idiot of yourself. Not only is this style not new, but everyone including Kanye can see this is a imitation of 80s pop. It sounds exactly the same as countless "ooh look a Vocoder" songs from 20 years ago.

[checkyourprez]

As for album: yes, it's almost entirely sung by West, aside from one verse by Young Jeezy on "Amazing" and a duet with Lil Wayne; yes, it is sung almost entirely through Auto-Tune

http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/10/15/vanessa-beecroft-kanye-west-s-808s-hearbreak-listening-event


we shall see ay

[Jitters]

Here's another new one, from a radio rip so it's low quality.

I present, Coldest Winter (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.5915).

[checkyourprez]

honestly the people saying how true artists "experiement" and branch out and try new things and all this and that...is garbo.


auto tune didn't just get discovered. ive been listening to daft punk for 10 years, im not blown away by kanye west doing songs with it.

[Dharma]

I hate Daft Punk.

[Kid Presentable]

honestly the people saying how true artists "experiement" and branch out and try new things and all this and that...is garbo.


auto tune didn't just get discovered. ive been listening to daft punk for 10 years, im not blown away by kanye west doing songs with it.

It's just good to see artists step out of their comfort zones. Yes it's pretentious and sounds like a cheap version of Massive Attack, but so what? Your preposterous level of offence taken at this gesture is far more 'gay' than the music. Which by your standards is saying something.

[Dharma]

Why is everyone getting so bent on this song being auto tune?

If the whole album is like that, then there will be something to talk about.

Jesus christ.

I don't even care about the auto tunes, I like the drums.

[Kid Presentable]

The whole album will be auto-tune. Which would suck if it weren't for the fact that I'm more interested in life and real issues to think about it. Better that than sitting here getting bent out of shape by one the most hated artists around putting out something worth hating. Fucking people, man.

[Dharma]

Once you auto tune, you never go back.

I see.

[checkyourprez]

As for album: yes, it's almost entirely sung by West, aside from one verse by Young Jeezy on "Amazing" and a duet with Lil Wayne; yes, it is sung almost entirely through Auto-Tune

http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/10/15/vanessa-beecroft-kanye-west-s-808s-hearbreak-listening-event


we shall see ay

Why is everyone getting so bent on this song being auto tune?

If the whole album is like that, then there will be something to talk about.

Jesus christ.

I don't even care about the auto tunes, I like the drums.


.

[checkyourprez]

It's just good to see artists step out of their comfort zones. Yes it's pretentious and sounds like a cheap version of Massive Attack, but so what? Your preposterous level of offence taken at this gesture is far more 'gay' than the music. Which by your standards is saying something.

Its good to see them step out of their comfort zones, if they are doing good music. Outkast is a great example of that. But, you can't make some garbage and say "oh he stepped out of his comfort zone so lets cut him some slack." Be serious. Im not taking offense at what hes doing, im commenting on it. Its a music forum. And on the personal shit, I dont care to call what you listen to or do gay because I frankly dont give a shit.

The whole album will be auto-tune. Which would suck if it weren't for the fact that I'm more interested in life and real issues to think about it. Better that than sitting here getting bent out of shape by one the most hated artists around putting out something worth hating. Fucking people, man.

For the first part of that statement...obviously everyone should be more interested in real life issues, and if they are not they have a problem. Thats not the point, go to the political forum and dont leave if thats how your feeling than know what im saying.

For the second part of that statement i really dont have a fucking clue what kind of point you were trying to get across. So ya.

[Dharma]

I didn't realise the whole album is auto tune, that might not be so good ...maybe if the instrumentals are good. Well see.

The problem I have with it is ...it makes the song somewhat pleasing to the ear ....and then it become irritating after a while.

[checkyourprez]

I didn't realise the whole album is auto tune, that might not be so good ...maybe if the instrumentals are good. Well see.

The problem I have with it is ...it makes the song somewhat pleasing to the ear ....and then it become irritating after a while.

For sho.

[Kid Presentable]

Everybody at some stage has hated Kanye for something, I'm just surprised when people are surprised by it.

[adam_f]

My brother's opinion- If his mom hadn't died, he wouldn't be making this fag shit.

ronnie_f, ladies and gentleman.

[faz]

album leaked

[Randetica]

i either hate or love his songs, theres nothing between that

[Nygel]

i actually am enjoying the new shit, the pop sound isnt too bad to me.

ill buy it.