Muslim children exposed to gas sprayed into mosque, isn't this Domestic Terrorism?

[kaiser soze]

Now why this isn't in the main stream news beats the fuck out of me?!

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/09/27/ddn092608evacweb.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=16

DAYTON — Baboucarr Njie was preparing for his prayer session Friday night, Sept. 26, when he heard children in the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton coughing. Soon, Njie himself was overcome with fits of coughing and, like the rest of those in the building, headed for the doors.

"I would stay outside for a minute, then go back in, there were a lot of kids," Njie said. "My throat is still itchy, I need to get some milk."

Supposedly the controversial anti-islam dvd (Obsession) was just distributed in Dayton prior to this attack.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/28/203016/697/536/613742

Muslim people are the new sub-human of America. When they are attacked very little is said and more than likely even less is done to find the offenders. It is a sad world when the most free nation in the world is one of the more xenophobic (Native Americans, Japanese, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims) and I'm sure many other ethnicities have suffered greatly from mistaken identity (the Sikhs)

People have forgotten that Timothy Mcveigh was white

[King PSYZ]

shhh, don't you know that if it's white people it's not terrorism especially if it's against those muslim idolators...

just like hanging nooses from trees where black kids congregate by white kids isn't terrorism, it's harmless high school hijinks.

But those damn black kids need to be sent up the river for fighting back and trying to pry a live gun from one of those white boys hands...


But seriously, this country is eating itself alive. Financial system crumbling, politicians no longer even pretending to have a moral compass (great attack ads during sunday night football McCain...), terrorism against our own citizens (which has been taking place for about 7-8 years now), police boasting of their thugish gang behaviour against the citazenry (looking at you Denver PD, keep it classy), what's next?

I should be estatic that my son took his first steps today yet everything I hear from the world around me depresses me and makes me wonder what will be left for him.

[kaiser soze]

When looking how things are coming to a head in this country

It really isn't that difficult to replace Islamo-facism with Christo-facism

[100% ILL]

When looking how things are coming to a head in this country

It really isn't that difficult to replace Islamo-facism with Christo-facism

Why do you say these things? Often it seems in these threads I see punches thrown at Christianity. As a Christian myself it stings. Why not call it what it is; just down right Bigotry. Anyone who is a true follower of Christ would never kill or injure someone in his name. This would go against the very principles of Christianity. And before you say it. Yes I know George Bush and Sarah Palin both claim Christianity and I would not be so presumptious to say they aren't. What I will say is, to use the name of Christ to get gain of ANY kind works against the very principles of Christianity on many levels.

Now I'm not attempting to turn this into a theological debate. I've certainly caught my share of flack for that on this board over the years, so I apologize if it appears that way.

It just angers me when I hear anyone say killing in the name of......when it's really all about political standing, power, and oil.

Ok I'm done. :D

[King PSYZ]

Well the same argument could be made for Muslims... don't you think they've been wrongly assumed to all be facist or extremists?

But those Islamo-Facists certainly belive they're good upstanding Muslims doing Allah's work, just as the psychos carrying out hatred and bigotry in Christ's name trully feel they're good upstanding Christians.

So honestly, it's a valid argument. It wasn't a slam against Christianity as a whole but the Christo-Facists who mirror the same people they claim to hate and want to stamp out for doing the same things.

[kaiser soze]

I am a christian too and am disgusted by those who call themselves Christians and commit horrible crimes against others and their religions.

Granted we don't know if those who did were Christians...but seeing it is an attack on Muslims, my guess is they think they are Christians.

I can honestly say there are more popular people preaching hate under the guise of Christianity than there are of Islam in this nation, thus the extremely warped view of Christianity (which is sad, and I'm sure Jesus is sad too)

Jesus loved everyone, his best friends were sinners

This is the land of the free, freedom of religion, freedom of right to peaceful assembly, and the freedom of happiness. So people need to respect the rights of Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc. etc.

[Lex Diamonds]

Now why this isn't in the main stream news beats the fuck out of me?!

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/09/27/ddn092608evacweb.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=16



Supposedly the controversial anti-islam dvd (Obsession) was just distributed in Dayton prior to this attack.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/28/203016/697/536/613742

Muslim people are the new sub-human of America. When they are attacked very little is said and more than likely even less is done to find the offenders. It is a sad world when the most free nation in the world is one of the more xenophobic (Native Americans, Japanese, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims) and I'm sure many other ethnicities have suffered greatly from mistaken identity (the Sikhs)

People have forgotten that Timothy Mcveigh was white
"My throat is itchy, I need some milk" doesn't quite have the impact of "THOUSANDS KILLED IN NATIONWIDE TERRORIST OPERATION". But apart from that you're right, this should be main stream news!

Stop trying to stir up shit that isn't there.

[King PSYZ]

regardless of scope, terrorism is always unacceptable.

terrorism by it's very definition is to encite terror to further ones one beliefs or goals. so a bunch of hillbillies riled up because they think the muslims are evil try and make them fear their own safety by attacking their children in a house of worship.

imagine if a christian church had something sprayed into the day care center or sunday school room during service... full blown christian indignation/jihad by days end.

[kaiser soze]

"My throat is itchy, I need some milk" doesn't quite have the impact of "THOUSANDS KILLED IN NATIONWIDE TERRORIST OPERATION". But apart from that you're right, this should be main stream news!

Stop trying to stir up shit that isn't there.


Oh right...if it doesn't go boom it's not terrorism, I guess that's why the Anthrax case fizzled :rolleyes:

It disgusts me because not only were innocent people attacked for their religion, but these were children.

With so many people being convicted of crimes because of the Patriot Act,
SO yeah fuck the perpetrators, they are terrorists in my eyes.

[100% ILL]

Well the same argument could be made for Muslims... don't you think they've been wrongly assumed to all be facist or extremists?

Yes I do, I completely agree.

But those Islamo-Facists certainly belive they're good upstanding Muslims doing Allah's work, just as the psychos carrying out hatred and bigotry in Christ's name trully feel they're good upstanding Christians.

Agreed, the Inquisition of the Catholic church brought death and terror around the globe and lasted over 500 years and is bieved to have been responsible for the deaths of millions of people.

[YoungRemy]

i don't think a squirt of pepper spray into a mosque counts as mainstream news because it's not terrorism.

why don't they report every church or temple that gets a window shattered?

church in Philly vandalized, bomb squad called (http://www1.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-02112008-1485880.html)

Rockford IL church vandalized (http://www.rrstar.com/news/x555998487/Rockford-church-vandalized)

Oklahoma church vandalized, burned (http://www.kauz.com/news/local/29402159.html)

new jersey, baltimore, fargo, tons more...


a temple in Tacoma, another in Minnesota

[Lex Diamonds]

Oh right...if it doesn't go boom it's not terrorism, I guess that's why the Anthrax case fizzled :rolleyes:

It disgusts me because not only were innocent people attacked for their religion, but these were children.

With so many people being convicted of crimes because of the Patriot Act,
SO yeah fuck the perpetrators, they are terrorists in my eyes.
Jesus, listen to yourself. Terrorism is a relatively small threat compared to most of the shit people die over in America. So some people got itchy eyes because of their religion, so what? That's better than black people getting jumped or fat kids being bullied to the point of suicide. Just a reminder of all the fucked up shit that happens every day across the country.

Listen up: TERRORISM IS NOT AN ISSUE IN AMERICA. It's a joke the amount of time the government spends talking about that shit, and it's even more of a joke how readily you chumps eat it up and forget about the real issues.

[kaiser soze]

it doesn't matter. Terrorism is a huge meme for the U.S. government and any act of terrorism may it be big or small should be taken seriously. People are getting harassed by every branch of authority in the States for a hell of alot less.

A new attack on a Mosque thwarted.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-mosque-threat,0,3774048.story

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) _ Police have blown up a suspicious backpack outside a Texas mosque and arrested a man who claimed it contained a bomb.

[YoungRemy]

and he got arrested for a terroristic threat, and it was reported by the Associated Press. I don't exactly know what you are bitching at anymore, soze.

it made mainstream news and it was considered terroristic.

and some more churches, hindu temples, and synagogues got vandalized and burned as well...

[kaiser soze]

I won't apologize for something that concerns me and if you have a problem with it why are ya bothering?

Just pass over the thread, it's not difficult.

I believe that attacking innocent people of any race, creed, or religion in response to grossly ill-perceived threats or xenophobia is a massive problem the U.S. is still faced with in light of the espoused freedoms for all citizens and the increasing threat on civil liberties by the government.

Just like the Japanese during WWII, the blacks in the 50's, 60's, these attacks on people who just want to live their lives in peace which could easily be sparked by rhetoric from political, religious, and media outlets are alarming.

An eye for an eye.....why should we be concerned with any further terrorist attacks if citizens of this country are attacking innocent people because of their race or religion? Isn't only fair that people get their revenge on as it is proven by these domestic terrorists ? These are belief systems and acts that were part of the fucked up fabric of Nazi Germany.

The reason why I a most concerned about attacks on Muslims in the U.S. is the fact that mistaken identity has killed off THOUSANDS or Muslims overseas. Isn't anyone concerned that this could be fueling the "terrorists" creating more by the day? It disgusts me that people are so fucking ignorant, intolerant, and disconnected from the plight of innocent Muslims in the U.S. and abroad.

terrorism by all must stop...but it won't.

[yeahwho]

Oh right...if it doesn't go boom it's not terrorism, I guess that's why the Anthrax case fizzled :rolleyes:

*just a side note, the Anthrax case (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&q=Anthrax+case&btnG=Search+News) never fizzled for me, Anthrax being released into the general population of the US is sheer random terror with only one result, massive death.

I'm freaked out how little media this gets, sometimes I think it's good, just because the very topic is frightening beyond any horror novel I've read. The current FBI investigation is under investigation.

Mission Not Accomplished and this case eerily parallels a certain shift in our homeland policies. Remember tarp and duct tape?

*just a side note.

[kaiser soze]

It is completely and utterly freaky and frightening.

Why is DHS more concerned about your bottled water rather than this? Obviously that is an exaggeration but still. Certain cases of REAL TERRORISM are treated with befuddling levels of indifference or incompetence.

Just like selling off U.S. ports to questionable buyers. It is sending massive mixed messages to the populace when artists are detained at the border for drawings of SUVS and barbed wire fences are put up to keep illegal aliens out of the country, while gangs (yes I consider them terrorists now) roam free, political connections to repressive regimes are shrugged off, and our own citizens cannot even be protected or provided relief by natural disasters while Billion$$$ of dollars just disappear overseas in the name of the "War Against Terrorism".

OH , you gotta read this article.....Talk about Border Patrol Power Trippin'

http://www.pressrepublican.com/homepage/local_story_278220015.html

Tax payer money well spent for the defense of our nation :rolleyes:

This movie clip is from a video that was sent to many households with their local paper. It is from Obsession, a movie about Radical Islam. I would not be surprised if it is stirring up new fears of, hatred towards, and possibly retribution against Middle Eastern Americans (regardless of religion). If they look the part they are potential targets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUBeq2FPBg

I wonder when that new KKK for Kids video will be coming to home near you

[freetibet]

Who cares?





and McVeigh was American, You racists. Muslim children die every day thanks to fellow peaceful and loving muslims. Haha.

[kaiser soze]

Thank you for the insightful contribution to the thread, here's a puffy dinosaur sticker

And yes you are right! Tim Mcveigh was American and was white and a veteran and probably a christian and committed the most horrific domestic terrorist attack in the U.S. So why didn't the government wage war against white american men? Why didn't Blacks and Asians and Latinos start attacking white men?

This shit Muslims are facing in the U.S. is not a patriotic backlash for Muslim terrorism but is unadulterated hate and yes terrorism, it is illegal and it shouldn't be fueled by the influential and tolerated by the public.

It is a bit concerning to see people say "So what it's terrorism it's hate crime it happens all the time, there are bigger things to worry about."

This apathy only leads to painful truths and potentially irreversible consequences and before you know it....you're eating your own words.

[DroppinScience]

And yes you are right! Tim Mcveigh was American and was white and a veteran and probably a christian and committed the most horrific domestic terrorist attack in the U.S. So why didn't the government wage war against white american men? Why didn't Blacks and Asians and Latinos start attacking white men?

And how did he get the know how to commit what was then one of the largest acts of domestic terrorism in the U.S.? Serving in the Gulf War. What inspired him to act in Oklahoma City? A sense of revenge for the Waco incident. I guess Malcolm X would call it the chickens coming home to roost.

[funk63]

you guys are ridiculous

[YoungRemy]

I won't apologize for something that concerns me and if you have a problem with it why are ya bothering?

Just pass over the thread, it's not difficult.

I believe that attacking innocent people of any race, creed, or religion in response to grossly ill-perceived threats or xenophobia is a massive problem the U.S. is still faced with in light of the espoused freedoms for all citizens and the increasing threat on civil liberties by the government.

Just like the Japanese during WWII, the blacks in the 50's, 60's, these attacks on people who just want to live their lives in peace which could easily be sparked by rhetoric from political, religious, and media outlets are alarming.

An eye for an eye.....why should we be concerned with any further terrorist attacks if citizens of this country are attacking innocent people because of their race or religion? Isn't only fair that people get their revenge on as it is proven by these domestic terrorists ? These are belief systems and acts that were part of the fucked up fabric of Nazi Germany.

The reason why I a most concerned about attacks on Muslims in the U.S. is the fact that mistaken identity has killed off THOUSANDS or Muslims overseas. Isn't anyone concerned that this could be fueling the "terrorists" creating more by the day? It disgusts me that people are so fucking ignorant, intolerant, and disconnected from the plight of innocent Muslims in the U.S. and abroad.

terrorism by all must stop...but it won't.


I just think you are barking up the wrong tree. I am concerned for anyone who is discriminated against due to their color, race, religion, or creed.

but i think you are confusing domestic terrorism with hate crimes.

you just compared Tim McVeigh with some teenage bigot with a can of pepper spray.

[kaiser soze]

Here is an officer introducing Palin in Florida referring to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama". Please tell me where people make the distinction between a Muslim name and radical Islam because many do not....oh and add this to palin's cute little accusation and an intelligent person can tell that this is attempting to incite hate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNYeyOQnuI&eurl

This cop is also in violation of the Hatch Act

http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm

[Lex Diamonds]

terrorism by all must stop...but it won't.
That's because it works. What better way to get exposure than have the biggest nation in the world talking about you every day in every media outlet. The US government needs to stop giving these people the attention they crave, for it only makes terrorism more powerful and heightens national hysteria. The worst thing is they know exactly what they're doing, they're just using it as a distraction.