Dead bear cub with Obama signs dumped at WSU campus

[kaiser soze]

Correction: This happened at WCU not WSU.....those damn typos

Absolutely disgusting. Only a coward and psychopath would kill a baby animal and use it as a political statement. This kind of cruelty usually doesn't end with animals.

This better be handled as a threat towards Obama.

Fingerprints on the signs, ballistics test on the bullet if possible. NO excuses, people like this are a danger to every individual on that campus, in that city, and in the nation. This is not hunting, this is a death threat.

talk about terrorists (n)

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200881020067

CULLOWHEE – A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.

[King PSYZ]

It's like I've mentioned elsewhere, the spectre of having a black president (or half black if you're a fan of chocolate news) is drawing the real racists and freakshows out the woodwork.

It's gonna get worse I fear as the next two weeks dwindle down.

If and when Obama wins, well don't be suprised to see white supremist try coming back out of the closet and putting themselves before the public eye.

[DroppinScience]

It's like I've mentioned elsewhere, the spectre of having a black president (or half black if you're a fan of chocolate news) is drawing the real racists and freakshows out the woodwork.

It's gonna get worse I fear as the next two weeks dwindle down.

If and when Obama wins, well don't be suprised to see white supremist try coming back out of the closet and putting themselves before the public eye.

I think we can expect authorities to crack down big time on white supremacists, neo-Nazis, right-wing militias, etc if they come out of the woodwork like that. Kind of like the Kennedys leading an anti-Mafia crusade in the '60s.

[King PSYZ]

here's the thing... If the government does crack down on these guys it will martyr their cause.

They get to go "See! We told you once he became president he'd lock up the white people and shut us up!" So the authorities will have to tred lightly and wait for solid evidence (just like all those who were trying to bring down the mafia needed something, anything to be able to bring them in on and try and get them to admit their other crimes)

[kaiser soze]

Yeah it is disgusting and a bit sad to see the hard work of civils rights leaders being challenged with such vile behavior. It is not only threatening towards Blacks, but also those with Asian , Latin, Middle Eastern heritages and to Caucasians who are tolerant, accepting, and in loving support of ethnic diversity.

This country is divided by those who do not accept the foundations this country was built upon (Constitution, Bill of Rights), how can THEY claim this nation as theirs?

poor cub, it died for hate

[DroppinScience]

here's the thing... If the government does crack down on these guys it will martyr their cause.

They get to go "See! We told you once he became president he'd lock up the white people and shut us up!" So the authorities will have to tred lightly and wait for solid evidence (just like all those who were trying to bring down the mafia needed something, anything to be able to bring them in on and try and get them to admit their other crimes)

Well, in order to crack down on them they have to be doing things to break the law. White supremacists, as batshit insane and vile as they are, are protected by the 1st amendment for expressing their views. But if they cross that line and start making threats and attacks, you can bet their cells will be taken out. Clinton got aggressive towards militias in his presidency, so I'd assume Obama would do the same if given the chance.

[RobMoney$]

Don't tell me you guys actually believe this was the work of some organized supremist militia?

This is a fucking amatuer. A dumb kid trying to get attention.
A sick mofo, I'll grant you that. But clearly an amatuer.
His fingerprints are probably everywhere at the scene.

[saz]

this sort of ties in with this thread. i'm not particularly a fan of cesca, who is very pro-obama and has dumped on third party candidacies, but i tend to agree with a lot of his criticisms of the gop. this blog in particular (it's long but a good read) was a dead ringer, and really reminds the reader what an obama administration can expect, considering the gop pretty much did all they could to destroy clinton.


The Republican War Against Senator Obama

Bob Cesca Posted October 15, 2008 | 03:12 PM (EST)


Michelle Obama once called it "the ultimate fear bomb."

I'm writing, of course, about the paranoid, psychopathic behavior we've witnessed over the last two weeks from the Republican Party and its presidential candidates. Be it the fire-eyed rants from the cowardly shrieking eel named Sarah Palin, or the ignorant and naïve witch-hunters in line at various McCain rallies, or the sanctioned Republican Party conspiracy to turn Senator Obama into an Islamic terrorist, we've only begun to scratch the surface of what the far-right is capable of -- in broad daylight no less.

Remember the breathless, tinfoil hat attacks against President Clinton and Senator Clinton during the 1990s? Fun times compared to what's surely on the way if Senator Obama wins this thing. I think we can agree that the last couple of weeks have made the far-right anti-Clinton attacks of the '90s seem quaint by comparison.

Here's this particular Republican fear bomb works. 1) The McCain campaign, the Republican Party and its supporters are systematically spreading the notion that Senator Obama is somehow a terrorist sympathizer -- and therefore a de facto terrorist. 2) America is presently engaged in a shooting war against terrorists. 3) Therefore, by extrapolation, they're allowing their more unhinged followers to imply that we're in a shooting war against Senator Obama.

And we're not just hearing this from the usual wackaloons and hoopleheads, either. This game is quite literally being played by both the legitimate Republican Party, along with the Republican nominees for president and vice president.

It began long ago, however, in that notorious "Who Is Barack Obama?" whisper e-mail and, as if on cue, the thoroughly debunked smears in the e-mail bled out to far-right talkers like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. In June of 2007, for example, Coulter used an appearance on Hannity & Colmes to say, "I think anyone named B. Hussein Obama should avoid using "hijack" and "religion" in the same sentence." Funny! And she punctuated it with, "Get ready for President Hussein!" This from a woman who wished for the New York Times building to be bombed by terrorists.

Elsewhere, Rush Limbaugh's participation has involved everything from the possibly drug-induced yet deliberate "Osama-Obama" mispronunciation, to his present day and inexplicable "Arab-African" label for the senator's heritage. The truth is that Limbaugh is more "Arab-African" than Senator Obama.

Back in February, FOX News Channel posted a poll question wondering, "Who Is Usama Rooting For?" You can probably guess how FOX News viewers responded. It goes without saying that the point wasn't literally to determine Bin Laden's voting preference, but rather to nefariously link Senator Obama and Bin Laden.

Now, you might be thinking -- yeah, typical FOX News. Not so fast. Here's the very serious former CNN and current ABC News talking head Jeff Greenfield:

Greenfield compared the similarity of Obama's "business casual" clothing to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "jacket-and-no-tie look." Greenfield concluded the segment by saying: "Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful. But an outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil, why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread."
Odd that we haven't heard from any of these wise men about all of the serial killers, maniacs and assassins who have been named "John," as in "John McCain." For the record, there's John Wilkes Booth, John Hinckley Jr., John Schrank (attempted to kill McCain's hero Teddy Roosevelt), John Wayne Gacy, Paul John Knowles, John Allen Muhammad (DC Sniper terrorist), John Edward Robinson (the Cyber Sex Killer), Gerard John Schaefer (killed 34 women and girls in Florida), John Gotti, John Dillinger and John George Haigh (the UK's 'Acid Bath Murderer').

There was time, you know, when the McCain campaign outright rejected this tactic, most notably when Senator McCain repudiated talk radio host Bill Cunningham's "Hussein" rant last February. But now, with his poll numbers collapsing, it's become a desperate and necessary part of the McCain's schizoid strategem. Now, months later, and just as TPM's Josh Marshall accurately predicted at the time, the McCain campaign is "relying on hundreds of Cunninghams -- large and small."

That leads us to Sarah Palin, who is somehow regarded as fearless and "barracuda-ish" even though she's absolutely terrified to appear in a televised press conference. Quite a pit bull, no? Lobbing shots from a position of safety. Brave of her. Nevertheless, there she was on stage making sure to perfectly enunciate the words "palling around with... domestic! terrorists!" With this prepared remark, the Straight Talk Express officially jumped the median and landed squarely in the twisted, lunatic fringe world of Limbaugh, Coulter and Cunningham.

At no other time has this wicked transformation from maverick to maniac been more obvious than when Senator McCain himself literally quoted the title of the original Andy Martin whisper e-mail. McCain, speaking to his supporters last week, looked directly into the television cameras and spoke the words, "Who is Barack Obama?" Talk about a dog whistle for every paranoid hoople who received that whisper e-mail.

And today, on the heels of repeated outbursts of "kill him" and "off with his head" at various McCain campaign rallies, the Sacramento County Republican Party website was forced to remove a graphic that links Senator Obama to Osama Bin Laden and demands that the Illinois senator and Democratic nominee for president -- and not the al-Qaeda leader -- be waterboarded. Waterboarded! And Senator McCain has audacity to suggest that Congressman John Lewis's statement was the worst thing he's ever heard? Seriously?

Yet as if trapped on the surface of some kind of grotesque Mobius Loop of Crazy, Senator McCain has repeatedly promised that in tonight's final nationally televised presidential debate he intends to bring up William Ayers --hence perpetuating this dark, insane plot to turn one of our generation's most inspiring and promising leaders into a terrorist -- and therefore someone we are at war with -- someone who our most vocal political leaders have pledged to kill or capture.

So where's the establishment press in all of this? Rather than joining together and outting this tactic for what it is -- the inadvertent fomenting of an assassination attempt -- they're preoccupied with the political theater of it all. Is this good for McCain? Is the tactic working? Will it swing the polls back in McCain's favor? Why should we be surprised, though? After all, early this year, TIME Magazine's very serious Mark Halperin posted a series of recommendations for the McCain campaign in preparation for the race against Senator Obama. Among them: "6. Allow some supporters to risk being accused of using the race card when criticizing Obama." Smart! But the most obnoxious item on the list was number 11:

Emphasize Barack Hussein Obama's unusual name and exotic background through a Manchurian Candidate prism.

And there you go. The past, sadly enough, appears to be prologue. Hang on tight.

link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-republican-war-agains_b_134927.html)

[kaiser soze]

Don't tell me you guys actually believe this was the work of some organized supremist militia?

This is a fucking amatuer. A dumb kid trying to get attention.
A sick mofo, I'll grant you that. But clearly an amatuer.
His fingerprints are probably everywhere at the scene.

nope and never said

We will see how the organized supremacist militias react in a couple months

[kaiser soze]

News report video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPmxDuigNk&eurl

[yeahwho]

The significance of a bear cub, the idea of embracing fear and the illegal actions of the perpetrator of this crime are small minded. Larger minds shall prevail. Just arrest him/her quietly, fine him or her and jail their ass.

A bear cub? What does a person shoot a bear cub for? What sort of symbolism does a bear cub represent? Is that like finding a live old turtle and putting McCain signs on it?

[Echewta]

I hope they find out who did it and put down their children.

[jennyb]

*cough* Colbert *ahem*

[QueenAdrock]

This actually made me pretty sad. It's just fucking politics. Taking it out on a baby bear? I mean, give me a break. That's sick. (n)

[kaiser soze]

Now....the head of a buck is thrown into the parking lot of an Obama Office.

http://cbs4denver.com/politics/colorado.obama.michelle.2.850599.html

Police in Colorado Springs are looking for the person who threw the head of a deer into the parking lot of a Barack Obama campaign office.

The head was found late Saturday night.

The Humane Society says the buck's antlers had been cut off to make the head resemble a donkey, the symbol of the Democratic Party.

inbreeders

[Randetica]

i hate americans, every single one of you

[GlobemalloSpike]

Apparently, the bear cub incident is NOT politically motivated:
story from the WCU website (http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp)
http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp

Students found the cub already dead,
as a prank decided to dump it on campus,
and picked up some random campaign signs en route
to keep blood off the pickup bed.

[funk63]

Yeah it is disgusting and a bit sad to see the hard work of civils rights leaders being challenged with such vile behavior. It is not only threatening towards Blacks, but also those with Asian , Latin, Middle Eastern heritages and to Caucasians who are tolerant, accepting, and in loving support of ethnic diversity.

This country is divided by those who do not accept the foundations this country was built upon (Constitution, Bill of Rights), how can THEY claim this nation as theirs?

poor cub, it died for hate

It is fucked up to kill a bear, but how does this have anything to do with race?

[Randetica]

it was a black bear!

[100% ILL]

it was a black bear!


A clear cut case of Ursuscide.

[YoungRemy]

Apparently, the bear cub incident is NOT politically motivated:
story from the WCU website (http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp)
http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp

Students found the cub already dead,
as a prank decided to dump it on campus,
and picked up some random campaign signs en route
to keep blood off the pickup bed.


not everything is politically motivated, but on this message board it is...

a dead deer head or a dead bear cub dumped somewhere in America does not mean white supremacy has taken over or that the terrorists are coming out of the woodwork...

[100% ILL]

not everything is politically motivated, but on this message board it is...

A purely speculative remark. Where are your statistics to support your claim?



a dead deer head or a dead bear cub dumped somewhere in America does not mean white supremacy has taken over or that the terrorists are coming out of the woodwork...

Take the blinders off man!! Didn't you hear what the man said?

kaiser soze: poor cub, it died for hate

This better be handled as a threat towards Obama.

Fingerprints on the signs, ballistics test on the bullet if possible. NO excuses, people like this are a danger to every individual on that campus, in that city, and in the nation. This is not hunting, this is a death threat.

The bear cub is an obvious symbol of the seething hatred in the hearts of all gun owners and all of white supremacy for Sen. Obama.

The ATF should storm their homes and systematically destroy them, so they can no longer spread their ideology of hatred by using animals.

[YoungRemy]

so this story isn't even political, as predicted by a few members in this thread

10/24/2008 - Two Western Carolina University students were charged Thursday, Oct. 23, with misdemeanors in connection with the discovery of the body of a dead bear near the catamount statue at the main entrance of campus earlier in the week.
The charges come after seven students who admitted to being involved were interviewed by campus police, N.C. Wildlife Resources officers and the U.S. Secret Service, which is authorized to protect presidential candidates.

Investigators reported that they found no political or racial motives behind the students’ actions. The bear was discovered Monday, Oct. 20, with two Barack Obama campaign posters on its head.


should we post every dead animal that shows up in America as a threat to Obama now?

Dog Found Hanging, in East Albany- McCain sympathizers? (http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=9253809&nav=menu37_2)

[DroppinScience]

so this story isn't even political, as predicted by a few members in this thread

Well, kaiser does have a flair for the dramatic. ;)

[King PSYZ]

so this story isn't even political, as predicted by a few members in this thread




should we post every dead animal that shows up in America as a threat to Obama now?

Dog Found Hanging, in East Albany- McCain sympathizers? (http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=9253809&nav=menu37_2)
Did you miss the key part about the campaign posters attached to the dead bear's head?

[GlobemalloSpike]

Don't jump on Kaiser. Nearly every early report of this dead bear story,
assumed a political motive, and why wouldn't they?
Election season always whips folks into a frenzy.
(although I do think the McCain camp has been overtly fanning the flames this year in response to their dropping poll numbers)

But, don't believe the hype. Remain critical.

For instance, the deer head...
Although Co.Springs police are treating it as politically motivated,
the statement by the Humane society, that its antlers were removed,
to make it look like a donkey (the Dem mascot)
is stupid.
Removing the antlers is part of dressing a buck, as is disposing of the head.

Life goes on. Okay maybe not for the bear... or the deer... or that pitbull... or Ted Stevens...
But hunting season, no matter how fucked up you might think it is, is still part of this American life.

Here's a really funny spin on "political news goggles" by
The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/gunman_kills_15_potential_voters)
well worth a click.

[kaiser soze]

You guys are killin' me!