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Burnout18
10-28-2008, 06:20 PM
I dont know if this is embedded in another thread or whatever but yesterday this story broke ....
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/27/obama.plot/index.html
Plot included killing 100 African-Americans, beheading 14, officials say
Plot was to end with attempt to kill Obama while wearing white, police say
Anyways, this is pretty disturbing..... but you know whats even more fucked up? I visit a few other message boards and forums then this one,,, people who are anti-obama are laughing this off as they are just a couple of dumb kids and this is no big deal. People are joking about this, Are you kidding me?
Dharma
10-28-2008, 06:51 PM
Maybe when the world is free of racism...I will be shocked then.
I don't think its right...nor do I agree with ignorance and racism ... but I am not surprised.
DroppinScience
10-28-2008, 07:23 PM
Well, their deranged plot was to kill 88 blacks and behead 14. 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist world (the 8's represent the 8th letter in the alphabet, H. HH means "Heil Hitler" and 14 is a 14-word sentence from a white supremacist inmate: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children").
I'm glad the ATF found them before they could even think of pulling this off. Something tells me they were amateurs if they were caught this early.
kaiser soze
10-28-2008, 07:49 PM
I say fuck em, throw away the key and let em rot
Terrorism is terrorism no matter what color you paint it. These guys already committed a few petty hate crimes so who knows where they were going to take it next. Some can argue they were "misguided"....but with some serious weaponry. Now where have we seen that before? How about every horrifying school shooting across the country.
If there is a no tolerance approach to terrorism these guys fit the bill. How many young men in Iraq have been rounded up and imprisoned indefinitely just for their relationship to a "terrorist"? These two are a bit more than that and thus they should spend an extended stay at a cozy federal prison.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081028/ap_on_re_us/skinhead_plot
Attorneys for Cowart and Schesselman haven't commented, but Schlesselman's sister said Tuesday she spoke with him after the charges were made public. "He said he's sorry about everything he's done," she said.
Only sorry that he got caught
yeahwho
10-28-2008, 07:54 PM
I don't know why but this Eddie Murphy skit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NyvYwfZR38)and how it ends is the first thing that came into my mind when I read this story.
travesty
10-28-2008, 10:09 PM
Well, their deranged plot was to kill 88 blacks and behead 14. 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist world (the 8's represent the 8th letter in the alphabet, H. HH means "Heil Hitler" and 14 is a 14-word sentence from a white supremacist inmate: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children").
I'm glad the ATF found them before they could even think of pulling this off. Something tells me they were amateurs if they were caught this early.
Of course they were amateurs, they were 18 and 20 years old. Stupid fucking punks. Ther bright plan for Obama was to drive their car at him really fast while shooting as fast as they could..... that's no professional hit.
Something about this is fishy to me though... something's just not right, I don't know, The timing, the skinhead thing, their ages, the alleged plot it's weird. I don't want to say it looks like a Karl Rove inspired government set-up to drum up fear for the failing Republicans right before vote day but......well maybe I do want to say that. It's definitely suspect in my book.
travesty
10-28-2008, 10:19 PM
Love the last paragraph of that article
A group of men who sparked fears of an assassination plot against Obama during the Democratic Party's presidential convention in Denver in August. Authorities said the men had guns and bulletproof vests and made racist threats against Obama, but were high on methamphetamine and posed no true danger.
WTF? I can't think of anyone who would pose MORE of a danger to someone else than an armed guy in body armor that is high on meth. Seriously. Who wrote that statement? I am seriously considering giving Rob and Dorothy a repreive and making that my new signature line. Mind boggling.
kaiser soze
10-29-2008, 07:49 AM
meth is the new ecstacy, he just wanted a hug
Randetica
10-29-2008, 07:49 AM
isnt that the second time some idiots tried to kill him? and he is not even a president yet..
100% ILL
10-29-2008, 09:34 AM
It appears the 21st Century Nazis are taking a different approach
http://www.americannaziparty.com/
As Aryan Revolutionaries, we recognize the fact that behaving in the manner of past activities, little progress has been achieved for our Cause. That is why we have taken a new direction. In the American Nazi Party, you will find no uniforms or ranks, we do not engage in publicly exposing our Comrades to undo publicity through pointless and dangerous Rallies or Marches. We instead stress Small Cell, and Individual Activism as the path for which to build our Movement, as securely and in a responsible manner as possible.
It would seem they certainly would not support what those two young men did
It is a very serious Struggle that we are involved in for the very existence of our White Nation of people. Those who are simply intent on pranks or causing trouble should perhaps look elsewhere for stimulation.
I have to wonder what methods they would condone to achieve their goal :rolleyes:
http://www.nazi.org/nazi/national_socialism/
5. Repatriation of non-Germanic populations
In countries of Indo-European heritage, all non-Germanic populations and their offspring and possessions will be re-patriated to the appropriate area: Asians to Asia, African-Americans to Africa. Mixed Indo-European populations will be repatriated to Eastern Europe; mixed racial populations will be sent to Northern Africa or the Middle East, which are traditionally the areas for racial mixing. It will be acknowledged that this is not discriminatory, and no public scorn or retribution against these people will be permitted; they will be allowed to keep whatever wealth they have accrued, and will be treated honorably.
You coudn't make this stuff up.
So according to their ideology Sen. Obama is just in the wrong country that's all.
chromium05
10-29-2008, 09:52 AM
I remember reading an article online a few months ago stating that in the run-up to the election there would be an Obama plot involving skinheads / neo-nazis.
The same article also suggested that the shinheads involved would be found to have links to ISLAMIC extremists and that the funding for the plot would be made to lead back to IRAN ???
I'll try and find it and post a link - if only for the skinhead "prediction"
EDIT* - Here is the article I read - http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/high-level-assassination-the-staged-event-to-bring-about-war-with-iran/
travesty
10-29-2008, 11:20 AM
I remember reading an article online a few months ago stating that in the run-up to the election there would be an Obama plot involving skinheads / neo-nazis.
The same article also suggested that the shinheads involved would be found to have links to ISLAMIC extremists and that the funding for the plot would be made to lead back to IRAN ???
I'll try and find it and post a link - if only for the skinhead "prediction"
EDIT* - Here is the article I read - http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/high-level-assassination-the-staged-event-to-bring-about-war-with-iran/
So I am NOT insane?
chromium05
10-29-2008, 01:13 PM
^^ I can't actually vouch for YOUR sanity, but something is wrong with all this.
Add to that another article I read today on an Israeli news site that Israel is claiming that Iran has "lost" enough uranium to make 6 nukes ( and hence Iran is secretly building nukes at other, undisclosed sites ) and that a strike is warranted.....
So - outgoing president with ufck all to do for a few months
Israel still trying whatever it can to start a battle with Iran
Skinheads ( wait for the muslim ties) that are trying to kill Obama
US army rumours of an "event" anytime between now and the end of November
Bidens "prediction" of a "major catastrophe" to challenge Obama very soon after his becoming president
and, well.....something is on the cards......
yeahwho
10-29-2008, 05:30 PM
This stuff gives me the creeps, watching paranoia and hate feed off each other. The internet which provides us with a lot of great information also provides nutcases with an open forum to commute and spew insane theory and hatred.
Which is easy enough to google and find at any time, but now we'll see the onslaught of hate radio, hate internet and hate Faux news perform it's job of stirring up the masses of the mentally ill. We've come a long way as a society, but obviously many people still cling to hate. The odd thing I don't understand is if your truly paranoid how do you hang out with other paranoids? Or is there a social phase of paranoia that I've never heard of?
link below from the CNN article
According to an affidavit from the federal agent who questioned them, Cowart and Schlesselman planned to charge at Obama with a car, firing from the windows as they went. They would be dressed in white tuxedos and top hats during the attempt, the affidavit states.
Tasteless, Nazi jerks...you don't wear white after labor day.
ms.peachy
10-29-2008, 05:50 PM
Well here's the good news: sunlight is an excellent disinfectant.
chromium05
10-30-2008, 03:09 AM
This stuff gives me the creeps, watching paranoia and hate feed off each other. The internet which provides us with a lot of great information also provides nutcases with an open forum to commute and spew insane theory and hatred.
Which is easy enough to google and find at any time, but now we'll see the onslaught of hate radio, hate internet and hate Faux news perform it's job of stirring up the masses of the mentally ill. We've come a long way as a society, but obviously many people still cling to hate. The odd thing I don't understand is if your truly paranoid how do you hang out with other paranoids? Or is there a social phase of paranoia that I've never heard of?
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Exactly WHO is being paranoid? And WHY are they being paranoid and WHAT about?
Where is the hate in offering alternate views to the MSM? Yes - the skinhead / muslim "theory" I posted above could be considered a conspiracy theory when written. But that "conspiracy theory" took on a different light in the worldwide documented revelation that a plot involving skinheads planning to kill Obama had "been thwarted".
I posted the link to show that some had "seen it coming" - and maybe indicate what comes next with this story.
Hate only comes into play when free speech rights are being revoked. You either have free speech or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose who deserves it....
yeahwho
10-30-2008, 07:25 AM
Exactly WHO is being paranoid? And WHY are they being paranoid and WHAT about?
Where is the hate in offering alternate views to the MSM? Yes - the skinhead / muslim "theory" I posted above could be considered a conspiracy theory when written. But that "conspiracy theory" took on a different light in the worldwide documented revelation that a plot involving skinheads planning to kill Obama had "been thwarted".
I posted the link to show that some had "seen it coming" - and maybe indicate what comes next with this story.
Hate only comes into play when free speech rights are being revoked. You either have free speech or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose who deserves it....
So a lot of hate and racism has come to the fore and free speech has been used to display this hate. The paranoia is what fuels this hate. These fellows believe skin color is the deciding factor in their quality of life. They believe this so much that they're threatened by a black gaining the ultimate of success in America. So far everything is OK, legal and just fine...except they're exhibiting a shared paranoia, fear and diminishing status. That's all legal. When you feel the only way to change your situation is through violence, harm and death, you breaking the law. In this case the federal law.
But as far as free speech goes they can have at it. Most media outlets won't tolerate this mindless belief, but plenty of websites and meeting places could be put together to share your thoughts. And if you have enough money maybe you can lobby corporations and small businesses to cater to your special white needs.
I think the real problem with people who think like this is they're dumb, so dumb the best thing they know how to do is be white. That's fucked up. Really I think it's a mental condition.
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