Explaint to me about trousers below your arse...

[Adam]

I'm getting the rage. I know this fashion has existed since late 90s but it went away for a bit and now its come back even harder and doesn't seem to be reversing...

Men who have their trousers too low down showing thier arse and boxer shorts. I mean, who the fucks wants to see you can't dress yourself properly? They always have belts on to, its not like they forgot to put one on and they are slipping down. I don't where to look when I see it.

Was there a memo sent out that I missed explaining? Its a stupid fashion, its not practical in anyway. I tell these idiots that their trousers are falling down and they just smile and do nothing about it.

So if you are a guy that does this, explain to me why.
And if you are a woman who likes this, explain to me why.

Also, there is a fucktard fashion mainly in about 14-18 years old males with thier hands down thier pants. I said to a group of lads once walking down our street "got problems down there" and they threaten to beat me up! But they didn't and I would be pretty unhappy if they did try to touch me after touching themselves all day.

Grrr...

[Yorkshire~Rose]

Hehe. At least seeing a bit of their undies is better than a full on builders bum.

[camo]

Dude, you have blue hair.

BLUE HAIR!

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah like already stated, at least it's not me arse. No but seriously, I rock a sag because I'm trapped in the past.

[camo]

I think it originated from prisoners not being able to wear belts inside and then carrying it on when they were released???

Hip Hop picked up on it first and then it's moved onto the punk/emo/goth/scene kids.

I (as Kid P says) rock the sag, but I draw the line at skinny fit jeans (n)

[hellojello]

When I was in high school I had an absolute vendetta against people 'stuck in the '80's', now as it turns out, I think I'm stuck in the '90's. :mad:

[Pres Zount]

There's nowt wrong with baggy trousers, but I do think it's stupid that kids these days wear them just below the cheeks. It makes me want to dack them. No homo.

As for the origin, I was under the impression that prisoners somewhere in the US had all their belts taken away so their chums on the outside decided to go without belts in solidarity.

[Kid Presentable]

I mean, I'm not sagging enough to below sub-pubis, but they're a little less robust in the buttock than your modern spray-on jean.

[ms.peachy]

Mr.p and I joke that someday our daughter is going to bring home some little spotty oik who wears his track bottoms down below his arse, and we're going to have to pretend we don't hate him, because that will only make her like him even more.

[Adam]

Ok, so you do it for paying tribute to rapist, murderers, kiddy fiddlers and generally people who have been bad for society??!

I don't understand the world anymore. Does it look cool? It doesn't to me. I wear baggy jeans cus I find them comfy. I'm all for comfy before any fashion but doing for prisoners just seems wrong.

~ srry about the typo in the title to, I don't read things back when on a rant

[Kid Presentable]

Who's paying tribute to them? I just wear jeans. Just like you being a grumpy shit. It's just something to do.

[hellojello]

yeah because socio-economic status, race, psychology, mental ability and education has nothing to do with prisoners, they're all just bad bad people. we should always avoid eye contact and spit on the ground they walk on. in fact, why do we even bother letting them associate with mainstream society. once anyone commits any sort of crime, they should be completely alienated from the rest of community for their entire lives.

[Adam]

gah, its like being on the politics forum... tee hee.

I STILL DON'T GET IT, ok? I mean these guys who do this have belts on.

But in hindsight, like camo said: I have blue hair - its like my generation to be into hardcore and punk, I didn't expect people to get it if they didn't want to get it but wouldn't force it on any1.

I'll stop trying to force wearing of clothes properly on people. Ok, carry on, rage over, thread over.

[camo]

But in hindsight, like camo said: I have blue hair - its like my generation to be into hardcore and punk,

Tell me about some of the Hardcore you like (y)

[Adam]

Tell me about some of the Hardcore you like (y)

Its mainly New York Hardcore* I'm into. Like Leftover crack, Subhumans, Roger Merit, a lot of the stuff that used to come out on Hellcat etc.

Reason for my limp is cus I hurt myself watching Anti No Where League on Friday. Rancid was the main act but it was a double headliner for me.

We are the league!

Anything that puts energy into songs; just that release and passion cannot be matched anywhere else.

*ok, I haven't a clue which bands are NYC or not but its the genre mainly I'm on about.

[camo]

Cool.

Do you like any of the english stuff? My current faves are 'The Ghost of a Thousand' and Attack! Vipers!

[Adam]

Honestly - anything that is pre 1995 I hardly have a clue on. I've lost the thread of music long ago but I do sometimes here some good stuff out there. I couldn't name it tho...

...I really need to go out and find what is good again. MTV spoiled music for me and I'm stuck in the past.

I did used to download random stuff from alternative2punk.com - obviously just to sample it and then buy it later ofc ;)

[skra75]

I think it originated from prisoners not being able to wear belts inside and then carrying it on when they were released???

Hip Hop picked up on it first and then it's moved onto the punk/emo/goth/scene kids.

not true, it started in the mid eighties from convicts in LA who couldn't wear belts in the prison bc they could be used as weapons. they wore their pants low as a form of solidarity I think. when they came back onto the streets the boxer shorts thing worked and I think it then bled into the gang culture, which bled into hip hop in the late eighties. Hip hop kids back in the day wore tight jeans or track pants son!

the big pants, saggy bottom look (wide legs etc) took root in the skateboard culture of the early 90's, which kinda got mashed up with the grateful dead/proto-rave (candy raver) culture of 92-94.

The bottoms got wider through the 90's, then folks started making these gigantic parachute "UFO" brand bands that were really embarrassing. Goth kids were weenies and had no real fashion culture at the time (96?) so they glommed onto cheap crap they could find at Hot Topic at the mall.

The whole time that whole UFO pants craze happened, hip hop culture pants evolved quite a bit but the legs stayed kinda narrow at the bottom. Kids used to wear those Carpenter Pants, which then became mainstream and could be found at Old Navy. Then Mace and Puffy happened and everyone started to sport those gigantic velvet loungewear pants.

So, the saggy pants thing you see today is actually a messy, annoying fashion stew of alot of different stuff, but it all started in prison. The End.

[ericlee]

true to what skra said. Also now it means that you are "easy access" in the prison.

It's funny watching cops chasing after them and they end up tripping over their own pants.

It also annoys the shit outta me to see someone's ass hanging out but I just look away if so. People have the right to dress anyway they want to.

[Lex Diamonds]

Adam you come across as a self-important snob. If your steez is so hot then don't hate on other people's.

[Adam]

Adam you come across as a self-important snob...

Thanks (y) I am pretty damn important :)

[Lex Diamonds]

Must be nice being King of the Bellends. (y)

[mathcart]

in fact, why do we even bother letting them associate with mainstream society. once anyone commits any sort of crime, they should be completely alienated from the rest of community for their entire lives.

sadly not that far from the truth

[mathcart]

Then Mace and Puffy happened and everyone started to sport those gigantic velvet loungewear pants.


Sadly I missed this!
:D

[Pootytang]

I don't know if this was brought up in this thread already because I'm not reading the whole thing, but it is known as "SAGGIN" around here. A friend made me aware of this and he also told me to spell it backwards.

[Randetica]

too baggy/low hanging pants make you look like a bad joke

i still find guys with regular baggy pants hot, guys wearing skinny jeans not so much..

[marsdaddy]

All the 6 year olds are doing it!

[jabumbo]

you should ask denis leary what he thinks of this...

[befsquire]

a lot of my clients do it, but then underneath those they are actually wearing another pair of pants. a superlong t-shirt hides that, and a wife-beater is under the shirt. so, when you're running from police, you run out of the pants and throw off the shirt then casually walk around the corner and you're a whole other defendant.

[Pres Zount]

a lot of my clients do it, but then underneath those they are actually wearing another pair of pants. a superlong t-shirt hides that, and a wife-beater is under the shirt. so, when you're running from police, you run out of the pants and throw off the shirt then casually walk around the corner and you're a whole other defendant.

That's hilarious. Do the baggy pants and shirt stay suspended in the air, quivering for a few seconds as their previous owner becomes a blur of speed lines and innocence? I sure hope so.

But those HUGE t-shirts don't really look that easy to get out of. I'd be grateful if the police caught me, if only so they could untangle me.

[russhie]

I don't see many kids in baggy jeans these days. Or really horribly low-slung ones.

[Kid Presentable]

That's hilarious. Do the baggy pants and shirt stay suspended in the air, quivering for a few seconds as their previous owner becomes a blur of speed lines and innocence? I sure hope so.

But those HUGE t-shirts don't really look that easy to get out of. I'd be grateful if the police caught me, if only so they could untangle me.

My housewarming will be a XXXL T party, and it will require some oblique statement to be screen-printed upon said T. Mine will say "T's over knees".