Is That A Remastered Version...

[bigfatlove06]

... of And What You Give Is What You Get playing before you log onto the home page. If so, maybe we get remastered B-sides as well?? One can hope!

[Brother McDuff]

That definitely sounds remastered. It sounds fantastic!!! Nice and loud and clear and great low end.........I've been waiting for this remaster for so goddamn long. This is gonna be awesome.



Im sure the "extra tracks" mentioned in the pitchfork review are the b-sides, I mean, they've obviously remastered those too by the looks (sounds) of the new opening page of the website.

[Laver1969]

I noticed at the end of the track on the front page you can hear what sounds like the turntable needle hitting the end of vinyl then a click where the needle returns back and it song starts over.

What exactly is remastering? I know its going to sound clearer...but exactly how do they do that? I'm sure this has been addressed on here somewhere but I'm too lazy to search right now.

[bigfatlove06]

I popped in the Shadrach US Promo CD from 89 and the quality on the new track is definitely better... and, yeah you can hear the needle drop at the beginning of the track as well.:D

[mathcart]

I noticed at the end of the track on the front page you can hear what sounds like the turntable needle hitting the end of vinyl then a click where the needle returns back and it song starts over.

What exactly is remastering? I know its going to sound clearer...but exactly how do they do that? I'm sure this has been addressed on here somewhere but I'm too lazy to search right now.

Thank you for asking I was wondering that exact same thing and was a tad too embarrassed to ask/ lazy to research. While I'm VERY excited about the reported extra's coming (track by track commentary, WHAT!?!- awesome) I'm curious to know what I should expect from a remastered version of PB.
Sonically wasn't it made in the pre- loudness era so there is a fantastic range of sound to work with. What will happen? Will eggs now fly out of my stereo and crack on my head? The possibilities seem endless!
:confused:

[Brother McDuff]

Remastering, simply put, involves applying modern day sonic technology to a piece of work who's original incarnation is of inferior quality. They obtain the original recordings (masters), and adjust each individual track (in this case vocals, samples, drum breaks, single hits, scratches, etc.) in great detail to make them sound as good as possible. while remastering can involve anything from more sophisticated compression application to the addition of light effects for enhancement, the mother of this process is the EQ'ing process. they'll re-EQ each element with some super bad-ass equalizers and make everything sound nice and tasty. whether thickening up thin sounds, sweetening up the high frequencies of a dull sound, better managing the low-end (getting rid of mud and/or adding sub-frequencies), etc., its a complete overhaul of a record's sonic bandwidths.

trust me. you'll be able to tell the difference. particularly how clear it's gonna sound, especially considering how dull and muffled the original mix of the album was.

i do recall reading a snippet of an interview that alot of the master tracks were lost or unavailable for PB, therefore some things cannot be isolated completely for remastering. so it'll be interesting to see how much control they able to command in this process.


shit's gonna sound so dope, i can already tell. its gonna be like hearing a whole new album.

[mathcart]

Awesome! Thanks for the clear explanation Brother! Sort o' knew you'd come through on this...
Now I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing it!
(y)

[etwpro]

what about a licence to ill remaster. :)

[Kid Presentable]

^^^
*crickets*

[Brother McDuff]

what about a licence to ill remaster. :)



licensed to ill was actually recorded quite well. rick rubin has always maintained a great deal of attention towards the sonic quality of his productions. he picks good engineers and knows how to manipulate them well in the studio. though LTI was one of his earlier projects, you can already tell his ears were quite keen because that record still sounds fantastic today, I think. plus, they recorded it at chung king studios wherein they had some top notch gear. All their drums were real clean 808 sounds as well, further glossing the mixes with its heavily EQ'd and compressed stock sounds.

PB, though mixed at a commercial studio (Ocean Way maybe?), was tracked much more lo-fi at Delicious Vinyl's then in-home, meek set-up at John Dike's place. While amazing things can be done in the mixing process a recording's quality strongly, strongly depends on how well the tracking is done. ever heard the term "you can't polish a turd"? it applies to sound engineering. bad recording is bad recording. and while the record's sound wasn't absolutely horrific (just a little sub-par), the advances in technology since will allow us to hear this album with the ears Zeus.

okay, maybe thats an overstatement.

can you tell i havent gotten out much today. at all, actually. :o

[Laver1969]

Thanks for the k-nowledge Duffster! But if most of the PB's sounds are samples from other artists how do they remaster them? I mean they have layers of album samples. So they can get "inside" each individual sample to manipulate them...or can they?

[Brother McDuff]

Thanks for the k-nowledge Duffster! But if most of the PB's sounds are samples from other artists how do they remaster them? I mean they have layers of album samples. So they can get "inside" each individual sample to manipulate them...or can they?


well, it's impossible for them to isolate the different sounds "within" a specific sample, though most of their sample sources are of pretty high quality recordings, plus those songs were already mixed down, so with the right EQ they'll be ablen to spruce that ish up quite easily. or even moreso, depending on how hands-on the process was, resample those sounds digitally. or even resample a remaster..........

wow, that raises a funny point. the original mastering process (not remastering) involves EQing full songs, not the individual parts in the song (which would be done in mixing), but the song as a whole, after its mixed. so technically, to round out the sonics of Paul's Boutique, they're indirectly "mastering" other records for the sake of "remastering" their own record.


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im gonna go get a life now. :o

[DJ_Skrilla]

Well LTI is recorded better in my opinion than Pauls Boutique. THe bass booms and the lyrics are crisp. Yes and Def Jam has released a remaster of LTI already which just seemed louder. Cant wait to hear this Pauls Boutique and I guess I am going to start to work on a 5.1 dolby mix of it (with the boys)..... and Beck, and the Dust Brothers. Oh and Dust Brothers who created the sonic epicness of Pauls Boutique are hard at work with Swollen Members on Swollens new album called Beautiful Death Machine. Should be pretty ill....

[MC Boulangerie]

Who wants the mp3 ?

http://www.zshare.net/audio/53953312520f84f2/

[kensai]

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