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yeahwho
01-20-2009, 11:07 AM
As much as Barack Obama is being bandied aroud DC as a product today, it is just so nice and such a relief to know BUSH IS OUT!

Thank you to all of the fellow BBMB folks who decided to take your vote and give it to him, when they take away all the glitz, glamour and pomp there is only one spectacular moment I'm interested in and that would be the moment that comes after the constitutionally required,

Each president recites the following oath, in accordance with Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Thats it! Thats the only party I'm concerned about. woot woot :)

kaiser soze
01-20-2009, 12:36 PM
Welcome President Barack Obama to the Office of the White House!

Now where's your cleaning crew...the place is a fucking mess!!

AceFace
01-20-2009, 12:36 PM
w00t! now get to work Mr. President! My husband needs a job!

Fan with a fan
01-20-2009, 12:38 PM
Just so, yeahwho.
Don't know if I'm crying from relief or hope.

Whatever else, at least there is some small symbolic justice in that gw is also out of a job, like so many of us.

... Did gw's performance make possible this presidency?

kaiser soze
01-20-2009, 12:41 PM
performance....what performance?

the only thing bush did was bring more war

bush may be out of a job...but he will still suck the blood out of our nation.

Fan with a fan
01-20-2009, 12:44 PM
his choices in the office, in our name. That's what I meant.

ms.peachy
01-20-2009, 01:09 PM
Bush's face was a picture at this point in the speech: "As for our common defence, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals".

King PSYZ
01-20-2009, 02:50 PM
AMERICA... FUCK YEAH! (http://www.cannibalthemusical.net/ta/america.htm)

Burnout18
01-20-2009, 04:23 PM
Someone is telling me he screwed up the oath. Is this true?

ms.peachy
01-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Someone is telling me he screwed up the oath. Is this true?

He did fluff it a bit. It was kind of cute. Here's a guy who's always so cool, and in his big moment, he's so excited he blanks. But it was all handled with good humour.

King PSYZ
01-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Someone is telling me he screwed up the oath. Is this true?

supposedly it's the one presenting the oath who fumbled the order of some words causing Obama's false start.

Burnout18
01-20-2009, 07:48 PM
Yea i haven't seen it yet, but i heard two people tell me two different things,..... the chief justice screwed it up or obama screwed it up.....

Documad
01-20-2009, 08:41 PM
Yeah, the Chief Justice read it completely wrong and Obama knew it was wrong so he paused and then the Chief Justice read it slightly better but still not perfect and Obama went ahead and did it the way the Chief Justice said it. I'm sure the Chief Justice must have been nervous and his friends will give him a lot of shit about screwing up the one line he had to say all day. He must be mortified.

Bob
01-20-2009, 08:45 PM
was anyone else slightly annoyed that they introduced obama as "barack h. obama"? i mean it isn't a huge deal but i dunno, it kind of irked me. they said "george walker bush" and nobody actually calls him that. it raised my eyebrow is all i'm saying

Lyman Zerga
01-20-2009, 08:57 PM
ya welcome

yeahwho
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
was anyone else slightly annoyed that they introduced obama as "barack h. obama"? i mean it isn't a huge deal but i dunno, it kind of irked me. they said "george walker bush" and nobody actually calls him that. it raised my eyebrow is all i'm saying

because possibly of this (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/new-column/Content?oid=969934&hp)?

DroppinScience
01-20-2009, 09:35 PM
was anyone else slightly annoyed that they introduced obama as "barack h. obama"? i mean it isn't a huge deal but i dunno, it kind of irked me. they said "george walker bush" and nobody actually calls him that. it raised my eyebrow is all i'm saying

In the oath, John Roberts used his full name. But they also did "Joseph R. Biden, Jr." or whatever it is. Interestingly, they said "William Jefferson Clinton" for Bill Clinton but said "Jimmy Carter" instead of James Earl Carter. So I don't think they're consistent with saying the full names. :p

Burnout18
01-20-2009, 09:35 PM
was anyone else slightly annoyed that they introduced obama as "barack h. obama"? i mean it isn't a huge deal but i dunno, it kind of irked me. they said "george walker bush" and nobody actually calls him that. it raised my eyebrow is all i'm saying

george walker texas ranger bush

DroppinScience
01-20-2009, 09:38 PM
I admit I teared up a little bit when Obama got out of the motorcade and started walking and waving. :)

Burnout18
01-20-2009, 10:27 PM
I admit I teared up a little bit when Obama got out of the motorcade and started walking and waving. :)

Ah you fucking loser.... no im kidding, i found myself tearing up too, i have no idea why though, some girl started crying who was next to me, i guess i just got caught up in the moment.

RobMoney$
01-20-2009, 11:05 PM
Now he's the one who's middle name must not be mentioned?

kaiser soze
01-20-2009, 11:39 PM
No, He is That One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed-k1xOCsMs)

Actually I think it was out of sensitivity towards the name Hussein many neo-conservatives and racists have built up.

I don't think it should be something to be ashamed of and I'm sure Obama is not, but sad to say that some assholes who have surprisingly huge followings including some psycho zealots find the name offensive.

The middle name thing was all over the place during the introductions as well

I'm sure you could have figured that out yourself....right?

oOoh it's a conspiracy!!

Guy Incognito
01-21-2009, 06:03 AM
it was really good to watch yesterday, i got goose bumps at one stage, it must have been an amazing feeling for obama to see all those people who were intently listening to him. And the fact he fluffed it a bit is understandable considering the billions watching, he is entitled to have a twitchy bum.
The highlight for me was watching with my 2 year old daughter as George bush Sr was pictured in a big stupid furry hat and my daughter uttered the immortal words "whats that hedgehog doing". Brilliant.

RobMoney$
01-21-2009, 06:10 AM
No, He is That One

Actually I think it was out of sensitivity towards the name Hussein many neo-conservatives and racists have built up.
I don't think it should be something to be ashamed of and I'm sure Obama is not, but sad to say that some assholes who have surprisingly huge followings including some psycho zealots find the name offensive.
The middle name thing was all over the place during the introductions as well

I'm sure you could have figured that out yourself....right?

oOoh it's a conspiracy!!


I didn't watch any of the coverage of the Inauguration.
I've never watched any Presidential Inauguration. It just seems like a bunch of general "coachspeak", if you will...
"We're going to do this, and we're going to do that, and rah rah rah."
So I'm ignorant about how much his middle name was used, or how much it was avoided in the coverage.

The only people I see that are sensitive about the middle name are you, DS, & Bob.
I understand it may be a bit embarressing for some to celebrate someone named Hussien, but you guys should probably get over it or it's gonna be a long 4 years.
I mean I'm the racist here and I'm over it.

ms.peachy
01-21-2009, 06:31 AM
It's a no-win really. If they'd said "Barack Hussein Obama", people would be yelling "Why did they say 'Hussein', when GB Sr. was 'George H W Bush'?" Instead they went this way, and people yell "Why didn't the say 'Hussein'?" As though it matters either way. So who cares.

AceFace
01-21-2009, 10:41 AM
It's a no-win really. If they'd said "Barack Hussein Obama", people would be yelling "Why did they say 'Hussein', when GB Sr. was 'George H W Bush'?" Instead they went this way, and people yell "Why didn't the say 'Hussein'?" As though it matters either way. So who cares.

to me it almost seemed like a personal preference in how they wanted to be introduced.

ms.peachy
01-21-2009, 11:03 AM
to me it almost seemed like a personal preference in how they wanted to be introduced.

Yes probably. But I'm sure there was a great big conversation amongst the high muckety mucks behind the scenes about which way Obama in particular should be introduced, precisely because they knew either way it would generate conversations like this one.

YoungRemy
01-21-2009, 11:39 AM
"I , Barack Hussein Obama"

that's what the justice said and that's what the president repeated before he took the oath...

talk about pomp and circumstance, I just hope he got sworn in on time and wakes up on time today after Washington just held his Inaugural Balls all night long...

kaiser soze
01-21-2009, 11:57 AM
I didn't watch any of the coverage of the Inauguration.

You should have watched it, he said Hussein

The only people I see that are sensitive about the middle name are you, DS, & Bob.

Then why did YOU bring it up? :rolleyes:

I honestly don't care that his middle name is Hussein, I do care when shitheads like Coulter, Limbaugh, and Hannity refer to President Obama as Hussein Obama (in a derogatory manner) rather than Barack Obama. We know damn well what they are trying to do.

DroppinScience
01-21-2009, 02:01 PM
It's a no-win really. If they'd said "Barack Hussein Obama", people would be yelling "Why did they say 'Hussein', when GB Sr. was 'George H W Bush'?" Instead they went this way, and people yell "Why didn't the say 'Hussein'?" As though it matters either way. So who cares.

I think they introduced Bush Sr. as "George Herbert Walker Bush" too. I could be mistaken, though. I think Aceface is right, the introductions were probably the preference of the individuals themselves. Which is why James Earl Carter was introduced as "Jimmy Carter" (is he ashamed of being called Earl?? WHAT'S HE HIDING?!).

I'm sensitive over Barack's middle name, Hussein? Get real, Rob. I think if anyone was previously worried/embarrassed over that name, now is the time to NOT be. I've got a good friend whose last name is "Hoosein" (pronounced exactly the same as "Hussein") and she's been long ashamed of it. She even got hassled for it during the Gulf War and all that. I told her now that there's no reason to get ashamed. A great American hero has got the name. :p

I think it's now only an issue with extremists like Ann Coulter, and they're dwindling in relevance.

Guy Incognito
01-21-2009, 02:16 PM
As far as the name thing goes its got to be "barack hussein obama" cos that sounds much better when you say it in a michael buffer stylee.

Lyman Zerga
01-21-2009, 05:32 PM
cute how he thinks he can fix all american problems in one day well maybe HE CAN

King PSYZ
01-21-2009, 05:56 PM
I'm ignorant... I mean I'm the racist here and I'm over it.


saving this for life

FOR LIFE SON!

RobMoney$
01-21-2009, 06:33 PM
I honestly don't care that his middle name is Hussein, I do care when shitheads like Coulter, Limbaugh, and Hannity refer to President Obama as Hussein Obama (in a derogatory manner) rather than Barack Obama. We know damn well what they are trying to do.

Yes, they're trying to get a rise out of people. They're chumming the waters and you're taking the bait.
If you want people like that to go away, the only thing to do is ignore them.

RobMoney$
01-21-2009, 06:34 PM
saving this for life

FOR LIFE SON!

Too bad it's not what I said, but as long as you're enjoying yourself...

Guy Incognito
01-21-2009, 06:59 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/13yl4qh.png

funk63
01-21-2009, 10:54 PM
I mean, I like Obama and everything but you'd think from watching the inauguration coverage and peoples reactions that they had just witnessed the parting of the red sea.

YoungRemy
01-21-2009, 11:12 PM
and a hero comes along...

Dorothy Wood
01-22-2009, 12:52 AM
I know a guy whose first name is hussein, everyone's terrified of him! not, he's a nice person.

honestly, though clearly everything anyone said was thought out and orchestrated, I think they said "george walker bush" because his father was there, and the "w" has become almost a term of disrespect, i.e. referring to him as "dubya" and such. jimmy carter has never been known as james, and sometimes bill clinton has been referred to as william jefferson clinton. it also seems like an attempt at deference, since he's a former president and his wife's the secretary of state, and they all want everybody to forget about that whole womanizer thing that may or may not be recalled by using a name as casual as "bill".

I do think people are reluctant to invoke the name HUSSEIN, but I don't think it was that weird to use "h" because Obama probably rarely uses his middle name in everyday life, right? I mean, I only know a couple people who use or even mention their middle names.


and as far as the right wing nutjobs using hussein as a dig, it's totally irrelevant. I mean, are they trying to say he's going to be a dictator? or are they trying to make people believe he's an arab? I'm guessing the arab thing, but in that they are trying to say he's a muslim too and therefore hates jesus and wants everyone in america to pray towards mecca 5 times day. however...as a leader, hussein was secularist. so, what, bitches? what? his name is arabic...big fucking deal. my name is irish, but I'm not a leprachaun. and I'm barely irish, just so happens my father's father's father was.



in other news, obama re-did the oath today, in case anybody was concerned.

Carlos
01-22-2009, 08:23 AM
bottom line - those mentalities that even 'see' the name are history.. he embodies the very fact that these things are not important anymore.

What he emobides is substance, NOT image. No matter how many times the words 'the first black President was uttered on tuesday' - which obviously is a wonderously momentus occasion - what he was elected on, and truly resonate will be his ideas, and his deeds, his legacy and not his appearance.

I think even though ever proud of his history, and the history he has already made, what is of importance for him, will be to go down as a great president, who made a real tangible difference to ordinary people. Rather than just being the 1st black president.

As such it may be a slow process, as he is likely to do things that work, rather than short term image based orders.