Sex ed for a 2.5 year old

[ms.peachy]

Yeah so I tried to find one of those 'goofy things kids say' threads I know we've had before so as not to start another, but I couldn't find one from later than 2006, so.

So Monday evening I'm in the bath with my daughter and she points to my bits and says "What's this one?"

I said, "That's my vagina."

She points to her own and says "This one my one."

So I say "Yes, that's your vagina".

She days, "Where daddy's one?"

I tell her "Daddy doesn't have a vagina. Only girls and grown up women have vaginas. Daddy is a man so he has a penis."

She claps her hands and shrieks "I LIKE PEANUTS!"
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Tonight I was fixing her supper and for reasons best known only to herself, she decided to take off all of her clothes. So I come out of the kitchen and see her there sprawled nude as nude can be on the sofa. I say "Mathilda Claire, why are you showing off your vagina to the whole world?"

She says "I not have vagina, I have peanuts."

I say "No sweetie, remember, only boys and men have penises. You're a girl, you have a vagina."

She looks completely crestfallen and wails "BUT I LOVE PEANUTS!"

[hpdrifter]

Oh my gosh, how cute! Just wait til she gets to school and the other kids start throwing around words for both that make no sense.

I thought my clitoris was a dick for the whole of 2nd grade.

[Adam]

haha!

[ms.peachy]

It's true though, she does really like peanuts.

[Yorkshire~Rose]

Haha awww bless!

Ava is obsessed with boobs at the moment. She asks when she will get them and then asked me how mine were stuck on - "with glue?"

[rirv]

haha!

Adam likes peanuts.

[Adam]

Adam likes peanuts.

salty ones!

[Freebasser]

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bless

[Guy Incognito]

haha

in our house, my 2 yr old girl still refers to that area as her foof.

[Nuzzolese]

Please remember this, so you can tell her and her friends when she's older! Just start calling her "Peanut" to keep it in your mind.

[ms.peachy]

Please remember this, so you can tell her and her friends when she's older! Just start calling her "Peanut" to keep it in your mind.

Oh believe me, I am totally saving these little bon mots for future use.

Like how she likes to trot around the supermarket with her shirt hoiked up under chin pressing her baby doll to her chest and tell arbitrary strangers that he baby is drinking her boob juice, that'll be a good one to remind her of when she's like 14 and has her friends over.

[kaiser soze]

I'll leave all those moments for mom ;)

any day now, I'll have someone who will eventually ask these questions

oh boy

[TurdBerglar]

this is kinda weird and creepy :confused:

[Yetra Flam]

you just dont understand the magic of having children!

[fucktopgirl]

^hehe

Hopefully she will not want to have a sex change while growing up because she will still want peanuts!

[Lyman Zerga]

lol


im glad you told her she has a vagina and not a 'no penis', i hate when mums do that

[Videodrome]

this is kinda weird and creepy :confused:

i agree. i always gave my children baths, not actually bathed with them.

[Audio.]

hahaha aww this is a funny thread.

reminds me of my embarrassing questions. I was curious at one point on how do movie or television actors do the intercourse scenes and my mom just explains that they use 'balloons" between the bushy parts. Yeah, I was confused but after 12 years I find out she meant condoms.


Is it difficult for parents or strange to explain stuff like that to a child?

[ms.peachy]

i agree. i always gave my children baths, not actually bathed with them.

Obviously there will come a point where she is too old for it, but when we're talking about a toddler I think anyone who finds it 'creepy' needs to examine their own conscience as to why they feel this way.

We've bathed together since she was born. More time and environmentally efficient, and now it's just part of our routine. Plus also now we are both very good at making giant shampoo mohawks.

[rirv]

im glad you told her she has a vagina and not a 'no penis', i hate when mums do that
What does that mean?

[checkyourprez]

looks like shes suffering from a bit of peanuts envy.

[Guy Incognito]

Obviously there will come a point where she is too old for it, but when we're talking about a toddler I think anyone who finds it 'creepy' needs to examine their own conscience as to why they feel this way.

We've bathed together since she was born. More time and environmentally efficient, and now it's just part of our routine. Plus also now we are both very good at making giant shampoo mohawks.

I thought it was a bit weird at first but there is no point shying away from the subject. Everyone has "bits" and its perfectly natural. Its possible if its not done that when a kid does see a foof or a willy they might get really freaked out.
I regularly have to field the following questions from my 2 yr old:

You got a willy daddy? Yes
mummy got a willy? No
Mummy got a foof? Yes
Grandma got a foof? Yes
Grandpa got a foof? No

And so on till we have been thru whole family.

It is a bit weird and can be bit embarassing if she starts this questioning in front of people but its funny and harmless. I reckon the more kids are shielded from it the more freaked out they could be. I am looking for someone more intelligent to back me up here.

[TurdBerglar]

it's not weird or creepy in a sexual way. i understand the innosence of it all. it's just pretty gross and obsessive to bathe WITH your child.

[ms.peachy]

it's not weird or creepy in a sexual way. i understand the innosence of it all. it's just pretty gross and obsessive to bathe WITH your child.

Well, you know, it's what she's used to. If she ever expressed that she didn't want me there - and believe me, she would tell me, "go away I do myself" is a very commonly heard phrase in this house lately - by all means I'd leave her to it (supervised, of course). I have on a few occasions said "How about you have a tubby by yourself tonight" when I just didn't fancy having a bath at, oh, 5 in the evening, but so far she's all about having me there. In my bathroom there is no shower, and I hate the shower in my husband's bathroom, so if we are both going to bathe it would mean running two baths, firing up the boiler in between to make sure there was enough hot water. I'm not sure what you find 'obsessive' or 'gross' about it.

[Adam]

I think its perfectly natural and probably encouraged to bathe with your kids. Especially the Mum to do it since they came out of them.

But obviously ms.peachy ain't catholic. I was raised catholic - even acknowledging that any1 had a penis or vagina is a sin. 20 fucking hail marys.
Yeah right farther.
*mutters* I think I'd rather go to hell
what was that
Oh, I think confession is swell.

[na§tee]

obsessive and gross.. ha! riiiight. god. i'm not a mother but calling bathing with your child, your toddler child, obsessive and gross is just :rolleyes: yeah, next time peachy should tell her daughter to run her own goddamned bath and to keep her youthful speculation and wonder to herself.

[funk63]

I think its perfectly natural and probably encouraged to bathe with your kids. Especially the Mum to do it since they came out of them.

But obviously ms.peachy ain't catholic. I was raised catholic - even acknowledging that any1 had a penis or vagina is a sin. 20 fucking hail marys.
Yeah right farther.
*mutters* I think I'd rather go to hell
what was that
Oh, I think confession is swell.

Haha. I was raised catholic too. Fuckin confession man..

I agree keep doin your thing ms. peachy you sound like an awesome mom too.

[Guy Incognito]

it's not weird or creepy in a sexual way. i understand the innosence of it all. it's just pretty gross and obsessive to bathe WITH your child.

whats the problem? Every other aspect of living, a parent tries to show the child what to do, how to do stuff. Whats the difference with bathing, if you are in the bath with your kid they can learn how to do it, interact with you, have a laugh splashing etc..there is nothing gross or obsessive about it

[Funky Pepp]

I thought this thread might be creepy at first too. But only because I read the Headline as "Sex-AD for a 2.5 year old". Sorry" :o

But reading the story made me laugh...:)

[TurdBerglar]

obsessive and gross.. ha! riiiight. god. i'm not a mother but calling bathing with your child, your toddler child, obsessive and gross is just :rolleyes: yeah, next time peachy should tell her daughter to run her own goddamned bath and to keep her youthful speculation and wonder to herself.


im not saying leave the child all by herself in the bathroom. that's dangerous! just don't get in the tub with her!

i understand the whole tender loving aspect of it it completely and idealistically that loving tenderness should always be there. but with how shit works in modern society i think you need to be a bit cold with you children from time to time and it needs to start as early as possible.

[Lex Diamonds]

So have you clarified to her that you were saying "penis" and not "peanuts" yet? If you don't correct that in her mind it's gonna grow into something weird.

[ms.peachy]

So have you clarified to her that you were saying "penis" and not "peanuts" yet? If you don't correct that in her mind it's gonna grow into something weird.

I just always use the correct term, rather than correct her, IYSWIM. She'll grow out of it soon enough and for now, it makes me laugh.


Turd - it's totally OK to not feel comfortable with it. If you ever have a kid, and you feel like it's just not something you want happening, you know, that's your right. Mr.p is no longer comfortable bathing with her, by virtue of the fact that she is now asking these kind of questions (not that he ever did it much anyway). It's just one of the many, many decisions parents will make in the course of raising their kids and no one should feel bad for doing it, or not doing it, as the case may be. I don't know about this 'being cold' business though.

[Schmeltz]

but with how shit works in modern society

Right so as soon as you say something like that you've given up any hope of anyone taking you seriously. Would you care to explain just exactly how shit works in modern society? Because I bet there's a lot of people just dying to have it spelled out for them.

[Lex Diamonds]

I see where you're coming from but surely with something as complicated as sexuality you should ensure she's getting the right ideas? Nearly everything you learn at that age plants a seed which can grow into your ideas and feelings in later life.

But hey, what do I know, I'm just some dumb wigger student from England, right?

[Schmeltz]

but surely with something as complicated as sexuality you should ensure she's getting the right ideas?


See this is an oxymoron. You might as well tell her that she should make sure her daughter wears the full hijab the day after she gets her period.

[TurdBerglar]

the kids that had the overly loving mother were always such useless pussies. they could never handle being picked on or doing shit under pressure. they were the ones staying after class and literally crying to the teacher about getting an extension for their book report instead of bitting the bullet and taking the late grade or putting their heads down and powering though their shit and busting out that report overnight. they were the kids that sat on the sideline during gym class terrified to try something.

that's what i mean about being cold. it's needed to toughen kids up. parents seem to avoid toughening their kids up now.


but then again she is a girl and that type behavior from a girl is entirely acceptable for some reason that i will never get...

[Yetra Flam]

when i was in 6th grade a new a girl who still had baths with her mother. ew

[Schmeltz]

^^Shit sounds like nonsense to me man. I busted out plenty of overnight projects and essays, and took plenty of late grades, and I definitely didn't need my parents to act cold for me to get it done. I have no idea what you mean about parents needing to toughen kids up, or about girls being coddled, it all sounds like a bunch of silly bullshit to me.

[TurdBerglar]

you're not american, right?


you were raised differently more than likely.


and this shit really didn't start happening till about the mid 80's when parents started treating their children like they were precious.

[Schmeltz]

The hell does that matter? So far as I recall Ms.Peachy isn't American either. Same goes for lots of the people who have posted here. Is your country supposed to have some kind of Spartan monopoly on breeding properly toughened children or some shit?

and this shit really didn't start happening till about the mid 80's when parents started treating their children like they were precious

Right because before that every single parent in history treated their children like garbage.

[TurdBerglar]

ms peachy is from new jersey


white americans raise pussy kids

[Lex Diamonds]

See this is an oxymoron. You might as well tell her that she should make sure her daughter wears the full hijab the day after she gets her period.
Yeah, you're right, calling male genitalia "a penis" instead of "a peanuts" is tantamount to being an orthodox muslim. Nice one.

[Schmeltz]

No Padster, you've missed the point, which was that implying that there are "right ideas" about "something as complicated as sexuality" is a silly notion. How can there be directly provable "right ideas" about something "so complicated"? You've contradicted yourself within the space of ten words.


white americans raise pussy kids


Well, I suppose you can't argue with ideas like that.

[Audio.]

Parents dont toughen you up, the school yard does. So, in that sense Parents do ya thing.

But instead toughing up children why not just teach them to be social.

[Yetra Flam]

it seems that parents invariably fuck up, no matter what they do.

[Guy Incognito]

I just always use the correct term, rather than correct her, IYSWIM. She'll grow out of it soon enough and for now, it makes me laugh.


Turd - it's totally OK to not feel comfortable with it. If you ever have a kid, and you feel like it's just not something you want happening, you know, that's your right. Mr.p is no longer comfortable bathing with her, by virtue of the fact that she is now asking these kind of questions (not that he ever did it much anyway). It's just one of the many, many decisions parents will make in the course of raising their kids and no one should feel bad for doing it, or not doing it, as the case may be. I don't know about this 'being cold' business though.

IYSWIM?



Yeah, you're right, calling male genitalia "a penis" instead of "a peanuts" is tantamount to being an orthodox muslim. Nice one.

LOL

[Schmeltz]

IYSWIM = if you see what i mean

And zorra, you might as well say that children fuck up no matter what they or their parents do. No parent can be perfect, and nor can any child, and nor can any human being for that matter.

[Guy Incognito]

IYSWIM = if you see what i mean



ah, i see what you mean:o

[hpdrifter]

See to me coddling means obsessing about how each and every little thing you do can affect your child's development. They're kids, not porcelain dolls.

[Yetra Flam]

IYSWIM = if you see what i mean

And zorra, you might as well say that children fuck up no matter what they or their parents do. No parent can be perfect, and nor can any child, and nor can any human being for that matter.


i remember this poem from high school


This Be The Verse

(http://www.tetrameter.com/larkin.htm#This Be The Verse)
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

--Philip Larkin

[Audio.]

*keeps snapping fingers*

[Schmeltz]

Yes, zorra. But what I remember from high school is

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood
...
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference

Believe me, I know that your parents can fuck you up. But that doesn't mean you have no choice in your decisions or reactions to how things are.

[Yetra Flam]

are you like, schooling me and telling me what's what? i was just discusssing here, man. just friendly internet conversation.

[ms.peachy]

ms peachy is from new jersey


white americans raise pussy kids

You are correct, I am from NJ. But my daughter is a Londoner. Who is now moving to China. And after that, who knows. I hardly think I am giving her a 'typical' American upbringing.

I don't plan to be excessively soft on my child - I don't think it would do her any favours - but I don't plan to be unneccessarily harsh either. Just very real.

[b i o n i c]

letter p day at schoool could get silly.. probably a good thing your moving to china(y)

[Videodrome]

Obviously there will come a point where she is too old for it, but when we're talking about a toddler. We've bathed together since she was born. More time and environmentally efficient, and now it's just part of our routine.

I completely understand and didn't mean to come off as judgmental or anything of that nature. I did not take into consideration the factors you mentioned.

I think anyone who finds it 'creepy' needs to examine their own conscience as to why they feel this way.

I guess it mainly boils down to parental instinct with gender somewhat playing a part. I have two children of my own but they are both boys. Being a male myself, I never actually bathed with them. Also, because of the six year age gap in between them, they have never bathed together either.

As far as explaining sexual parts from a male perspective, it was completed basically during potty training. Their mother has given them the basic fundermentals as far as from the female perspective.

I am now entering the, "birds and the bees" stage with my oldest son. That is an entirely different subject within itself. :o

[Adam]

Aww, the kids two and half years old. Give her a break.

All the kid needs right now is loving parents which it obviously has. I don't think you can do much school yard damage at that age. If you are still breast feeding them at 10 years old then yes you are.

Most studies I've read, say that any kids who grow up with emotional problems is because they aren't allowed to be kids. Pressure and real life is pushed onto them so early that they buckle and really struggle when they are expected to find their own way a bit.

I don't think ms.p is anything but an excellent parent. Do what feels right as a parent.

[Dorothy Wood]

I can't remember if my mom took baths with me or not, but she probably did. she wasn't too shy about nudity though. I used to take baths or showers with my friends (girls) up until about age 7 or so.


when you're a young child, you don't think of nudity as something dirty...and if you are made to feel ashamed of it or that it's something secret that needs to be hidden away, I believe you'll suffer in the long run.


peachy grew that kid inside of her, she fed her with her own bodily juices, she wipes (or wiped) her bottom, she's in charge of caring for every square inch of that child. there's nothing gross or dirty or weird about sharing a bath for practical and/or bonding purposes.

[Lyman Zerga]

What does that mean?

did you never hear a mum say that boys got a penis and girls got none?

girls got a vagina, hell damn!

[Lyman Zerga]

also the bathing with your kid thing (aslong as it is little) is super cute, i know i would do it (till it shat into the bathwater)

[Myu-to]

I got lucky, when Noah was like three he said boys have penises and girls don't? I said yep. He said ok. And, that's worked for nine years.

[monkey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg8yJVnPO5Y

[ms.peachy]

heeheeheee, ta thanks for that

penis penis penis

[ms.peachy]

.....so last night, for the first time, Miss M said to me "You go way, I make my tubby by myself."

So, there you go.


I do wish she'd told me before I actually undressed and got in the bath though.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by ms. peachy
I do wish she'd told me before I actually undressed and got in the bath though

I do wish you'd say things like this more often.

[b i o n i c]

maybe i missed it, but do women who bathe with their children also bathe with the boys? or do the husbands bathe with the boys, how does this work? there needs to be a pamphlet on this or something

[Lyman Zerga]

.....so last night, for the first time, Miss M said to me "You go way, I make my tubby by myself."

So, there you go.


I do wish she'd told me before I actually undressed and got in the bath though.

maybe she read this thread