Wow, An American uses 100 times more bog roll than a Chinese per person

[Adam]

Americans already consume vastly more paper than any other country — about three times more per person than the average European, and 100 times more than the average person in China.

source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-america)

But I suppose some of that is that chinese are tiny people where most americans aren't. So there is less to wipe. Maybe they have less sticky food to?

Or maybe they are just dirty commies?

[Freebasser]

If I remember rightly, Knuckles once said he put an entire bog roll around the rim of the seat, as well as half a roll in the toilet to pevent 'splashback'.

Probably accounts for a fair amount of toilet paper rolls over his lifetime.

[b i o n i c]

no, its just americans shit 100 times more than your average chines person

[Lyman Zerga]

chinese eat so much dogs that their shit looks like dog shit so they can easily shit into parks and no one will notice it is human shit then the dogs get blamed and killed only that the chinese got more dogs to eat

wait.. toilet paper?

[Adam]

we go through an insane amount of bog roll in our house

Like a roll a day at least. I don't ask why we do in case some1 has a problem. When I live alone I go through about one roll every 2 weeks.

4 people live in this house.

[b i o n i c]

everytime i see someone buying a huge pack of toilet paper at the store, i quietly laugh to myself

[Lyman Zerga]

everytime i see someone buying a huge pack of toilet paper at the store, i quietly laugh to myself

dont let bob see this :(

[Waus]

I heard on the radio this morning that Americans like their toilet paper much softer than the rest of the world, and that we're "DESTROYING THE TREES OMG," as if the lumber companies didn't plan on being sustainable.

Idiots.

edit: also (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153932/?searchterm=toilet+paper)

[Lyman Zerga]

americans got pussy genitals!

[Adam]

I always make sure I buy recycled paper - I can't believe its not the norm yet. Apparently its 40% in the UK. Should be 100% :mad: and law!

[rirv]

If my experience of a week in China is anything to go by they probably only crap about once every three days. I was so backed up in there I thought I was going to shit house bricks, and when I did have to wipe I usually drew an ace.

[Myu-to]

I always make sure I buy recycled paper - I can't believe its not the norm yet. Apparently its 40% in the UK. Should be 100% :mad: and law!Hold on, recycled toilet paper?

ew.

[Waus]

I always make sure I buy recycled paper - I can't believe its not the norm yet. Apparently its 40% in the UK. Should be 100% :mad: and law!

Bullshit.

I bet we waste more resources gathering and processing that recycled paper than we would if we just composted it and got new paper.

[Freebasser]

Waus takes his shit seriously.

[ms.peachy]

Well. According to some of my recent research, it is not uncommon for Chinese people to shit in the shower. Apparently this is considered 'more hygenic', because you can then just wash your arse straight away. Never mind that you are in the gym with several other people, just let that log go, my friend. Who needs paper?

[b i o n i c]

the french beat us all, they just wash their asses in water fountains

we'd save a lotta trees if we just put our water fountains indoors like the french do

[Adam]

Bullshit.

I bet we waste more resources gathering and processing that recycled paper than we would if we just composted it and got new paper.

Ya seriously joking aren't ya?

Paper is one of the easiest things to recycle. I don't think its harder for America to do it than the rest of the world .

If you are joking, sorry - I can't tell.

[Adam]

Well. According to some of my recent research, it is not uncommon for Chinese people to shit in the shower. Apparently this is considered 'more hygenic', because you can then just wash your arse straight away. Never mind that you are in the gym with several other people, just let that log go, my friend. Who needs paper?

Actually I forgot about that. Its why you don't offer food with your left hand in a lot of Asian countries. That is your hygiene hand because they don't have toilet roll. So that explains it.

The whole premise of this thread is built on headline grabbing bullshit shock culture I hate so much about most newspapers - sorry :o

[b i o n i c]

speaking of pooping and the chinese... those chinese like to squat! apparently, they've got it all figured out.

disclaimer: when i say "the chinese" this is an overly simplified, generalized term used for lolzsake. the chinese are a multi-cultural, diverse people - not to be stereotyped or minimalized - with a history to he respected and admired. disclaimer: this is not an endorsement of communism or a slight at other non-chinese people.

[Waus]

Eh, I'm half kidding.

It's really just because I was reading an article the other day about how there's actually a pretty significant amount of waste generated by the recycling industry in America. Sometimes the costs or recycling actually outweigh the benefits (according to that site).

Of course I'm not against efficient recycling.

[Nuzzolese]

I've often thought how primitive it is that we use dry paper. I bet future generations will be disgusted that we lived this way, and look on us the way we look on people of the 1500s who were sewn into their underwear.

[b i o n i c]

future generations will be disgusted that we shit.

we have pills to stop women from ovulating, stop people from farting, puking, tearing, even stuff to make you stop sweating and pee less often.

the last frontier is for man to formulate a pill so that no one has to shit anymore.

[Adam]

Plastic is the biggest problem for recycling because its often too dirty to recycle - like covered pasta sauce and stuff.

Recycled paper uses at least half the energy if does to make normal paper as its so easy to do - before you even count the trees. Still, the same chemicals to make it white and stuff often goes into the paper which pisses some people off. But we like white paper so it has to be bleached. I think it'd be a while before we are happy to use a brown looking toilet paper. For printing and that, it will always be white. We should just stop printing out so much.

Ok, off the soap box I go.

[Freebasser]

We need cars that run on shit, then we can solve two problems at once.

Just poop in your fuel tank!

[Lyman Zerga]

Well. According to some of my recent research, it is not uncommon for Chinese people to shit in the shower. Apparently this is considered 'more hygenic', because you can then just wash your arse straight away. Never mind that you are in the gym with several other people, just let that log go, my friend. Who needs paper?

cleaning your ass with water after doing your business is definitely more hygenic than using paper, no doubt about that

now because of your post im scared ill wash away my ass though

[funk63]

Dont know what the hell a bog roll is.

[Nuzzolese]

Dont know what the hell a bog roll is.

it's humorous Brit banter like crisps and fit gingers and cabbage crates coming over the briney, down the apples and pears, and up the duff, gov'na!

[Freebasser]

You bunch of wankers!

[Adam]

I didn't even think about the slang.

Sorry.

[NoFenders]

Bidets can be awkward at first, but they get the job done the best. I still don't think I could buy one though. We should all just eat more bananas.

[ericlee]

they use bidets in the mid east as well. Every apartment I've lived in had a bidet with like a dish sprayed equipped.

Yeah, Americans are more wastefull than Chinese when it comes to doing the doodies.

I definitly use more paper than my wife does.

[rirv]

WHen you use a bidet doesn't the water just end up dribbling down your leg? I don't think I'm coordinated enough to be able to use a bidet efficiently.

[ericlee]

the wife eats more healthy than I do which means she poos on a regular basis. Not too many meats but, many fruits and veges.

I poop much more,. I just go out during lunch breaks and buy the foods that are the nearest, mostly from roach coaches or fast food places.

I cannot control what happens to my innards after eating all that garbage. Most of the time, I'll take my dump, wipe and as soon as my pants are over my butt, I've got to sit back down with an even more furious dump than I've taken before.

[Lyman Zerga]

i hate when i cant fully empty myself so i often water colonic the hell out of myself

[jabumbo]

so the real question is whether the extra use of TP is more harmful to the environment than the excessive amount of water used to flush down the shit

[na§tee]

i seriously think 80% of the most popular threads on this board deal with toilet habits or vaginas. perhaps someone will start one uniting the two in one thread of ultimate glory? :/

[Adam]

so the real question is whether the extra use of TP is more harmful to the environment than the excessive amount of water used to flush down the shit

Not really one or the other. The next thing to come will be the transformation of using clean drinkable water to recycled water from showers, gutters and everything else that is good to flush with.

I really am a hippy at heart. Technology and Science can save the world imho!

[Dorothy Wood]

I don't understand how bidets work. I mean, I know it squirts water on your bum, but how strong is the stream of water? and how do you know when you're clean? do you dry off afterwards? I mean, I guess you'd have to dry off otherwise everyone would have wet butts. :confused:

[jabumbo]

Not really one or the other. The next thing to come will be the transformation of using clean drinkable water to recycled water from showers, gutters and everything else that is good to flush with.

I really am a hippy at heart. Technology and Science can save the world imho!


well, this is a great idea at the core, but can you imagine the infrastructure needed for this? or at least the bare minimum of a complete re-plumbing in your own home? if you can make this possible in my house for less than 10 grand, i'd be surprised

[Adam]

well, this is a great idea at the core, but can you imagine the infrastructure needed for this? or at least the bare minimum of a complete re-plumbing in your own home? if you can make this possible in my house for less than 10 grand, i'd be surprised

Its getting cheaper. Not sure of the costs but hotels in deserts have it (and have done for a long time) along with a lot of new houses. Basically its just re-routing some pipes and having a filter installed.

As homes get gutted and re-done up or knocked down and re-built, it'll become the norm to build such things in. Its really not that hard.

[Planetary]

We should all just eat more bananas.

eat MY banana

[jabumbo]

Its getting cheaper. Not sure of the costs but hotels in deserts have it (and have done for a long time) along with a lot of new houses. Basically its just re-routing some pipes and having a filter installed.

As homes get gutted and re-done up or knocked down and re-built, it'll become the norm to build such things in. Its really not that hard.


well yeah, new construction is no big deal, and if you are completely gutting a place then its no big deal for that extra step.


but any existing construction will be difficult, especially in homes. i wonder if commercial buildings have independent water lines for the different services, because that could be a possibility and would save thousands in the long run

[Adam]

Nothing stays the same forever - every 20 years or a home generally gets gutted.

It government make grants available (especially to landlords), assuming they are serious about reducing waste and excess, people will take it up.

In Sheffield where I live there is some new homes that have all these new things. Once they prove it works on one street, it'll only catch on to the next until its the norm. Money off ya water bill also.

Its like energy saving lightbulbs. Most see the benefits and its cheaper, thus most do it. Not even an issue now with most people.

[b i o n i c]

i laughed out loud at that

theoretically, you could do that to the delorian in back to the future 2.

[b i o n i c]

nah, stick a sock stuffed with potpourri over the exhaust and youd be good

[jennyb]

I had to click on this thread simply to find out what the hell 'bog roll' was.

[ericlee]

WHen you use a bidet doesn't the water just end up dribbling down your leg? I don't think I'm coordinated enough to be able to use a bidet efficiently.

Sorry, I was drunk. But yeah, it's funny walking around the malls around there and seeing a trail of water dripping from the Abayas.

[Dorothy Wood]

can somebody please tell me how they work? I mean, I know you spray your butthole, but how do you know it's clean? do you use your hands? how do you dry off? do you sit on the rim like a toilet or do you have to hover?

it seems like a lot of trouble.

[ericlee]

I don't understand how bidets work. I mean, I know it squirts water on your bum, but how strong is the stream of water? and how do you know when you're clean? do you dry off afterwards? I mean, I guess you'd have to dry off otherwise everyone would have wet butts. :confused:

ahaha. Eherm. haha. Most of the bidets in my apartments had like a garden hose powered stream.

You know, like putting your thumb over a hose to create the highest pressure? I have never felt cleaner there in my whole entire life.

and yes, you have to dry off afterwards. I had my own separate towels for that, replaced with a clean one everyday. Seriously, I didn't buy toilet paper at all for my apartments.

[ericlee]

can somebody please tell me how they work? I mean, I know you spray your butthole, but how do you know it's clean? do you use your hands? how do you dry off? do you sit on the rim like a toilet or do you have to hover?

it seems like a lot of trouble.

I used my hand. My right one at that. You hover over it, let the stream do its thing and use your hand to.. Clear things off.

Wipe dry with a towel and wash your hands.

You know the phrase about not shaking hands with your left hand? Well, I'm a lefty. I wipe with my right hand. Nice to meet you.

[jennyb]

My job involves specifying toilets/bidets for high end residences. I've never touched a bidet, the whole concept freaks me out. I don't think you should get off the toilet until you're clean, furthermore, what the heck sounds messy with water splashing all over the place. We've had our clients request this 'washlet'... *shakes head*

http://www.washlet.com/

Either way, you're using TP or additional water, both trees and water are valuable resources.