Beating a Sex Offender

[yeahwho]

"I'd do it again, if not better" (http://www.komonews.com/news/40457662.html#idc-container)

A woman up here in the NW decided she didn't want the local sex offender talking to his 10 year old daughter so she went over to his house and beat on him with a baseball bat.

Would you do the same? I think I would... but I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of I.D.ing me, it would be a surprise party.

You?

[Lyman Zerga]

i need to be in that situation to can really tell but maybe yes
like i would beat the shit out of a crocodile if it tried to eat my kids

it's just natural to protect your kids

[checkyourprez]

well said.

no one would stand for anything preying on their kids.


idk if i would seek him out unprovoked, but if there was any hint of anything the sick fuck would feel the wrath.

[adam_f]

My cousin is one. He has yet to be attacked. That's all I have to offer this thread.

[checkyourprez]

however, some sex offenders get unfairly dogged.

like a 20 year old banging a 17 year old and getting a stat rape charge on him when the sex was consensual. thats bullshit.

[Burnout18]

like a 20 year old banging a 17 year old and getting a stat rape charge on him when the sex was consensual. thats bullshit.

oh my god, this seriously was a fear for me inbetween ages 19-22. Now i'm 23 going on 24 so like 17 year olds really look young to me..... also in some states i know if you are banging a girl under 21, if she has any alcohol in her blood stream, it is rape. So if two college sophmores get drunk and bang, then she can prolly cry rape and get away with it.

[kaiser soze]

What makes this woman any better than him now?

She is quite lucky for getting such a light sentence for beating the shit out of him.

They are both shitty people in my eyes (n)

[ms.peachy]

The problem I have with this is that there was apparently no immediate threat to the daughter. The guy wasn't talking to her daughter now, she just recognised him as having spoken to her daughter the previous year. And from what I can gather, there was no suggestion that he had done anything other than talk to the girl. It's not as though the guy was still speaking to the child, or that he'd been inappropriate with her on the previous occasion. So although as a parent I certainly understand feeling creeped out knowing that he'd spoken to my daughter and that he lived in the neighbourhood, I can't see that what she did can be classed as "protecting" her child.

[TurdBerglar]

what's a level three sex offender?

if he is a rapist or fucked some kids then he should be dead...

he got off light with a bat beat down.


a rapist sould be getting that type of treatment daily. if he survives then it's his lucky day.


fuck this bullshit about reforming and protecting twisted people. just get rid of them.

[Dorothy Wood]

a level three sex offender is this: These offenders pose a potential high risk to the community and are a threat to re-offend if provided the opportunity. Most have prior sex crime convictions as well as other criminal convictions. Their lifestyles and choices place them in this classification. Some have predatory characteristics and may seek out victims. They may have refused or failed to complete approved treatment programs.

from http://ml.waspc.org/FAQ.aspx#Level3


I don't think I would've beaten a dude with a bat for something that happened last summer, but maybe it might make him think twice about his actions. although it probably won't if he's a sociopath.

now if I had a kid and a 7'3" known pedophile was talking to her and I saw it happen in the moment, I'd probably scream like a banshee and break his legs with a bat.

[Lyman Zerga]

What makes this woman any better than him now?

She is quite lucky for getting such a light sentence for beating the shit out of him.

They are both shitty people in my eyes (n)


well be in that situation with your baby first, mister board priest and then lets hear your opinion again

[Myu-to]

A 7'3" known sex offender talking to my son?

Fuck yeah, I'd climb that tree.

[checkyourprez]

i dont think i would

[kaiser soze]

well be in that situation with your baby first, mister board priest and then lets hear your opinion again

What position? This guy spoke to her daughter...he didn't do anything else to the kid except be creepy.

Seeing that people support this kind of vigilante justice then it should also be supported if someone decided to blow this woman's head off because they don't like her assaulting people with a bat.

She could have killed this guy and that makes her better how? I wouldn't want that psycho woman near my kid either! The story said this woman said the man molested her kid and soon after she changed her story. How fucking creepy is that, did she devise some sick scenario in her head of her kid being raped which convinced her to attack this man?

If people are going to be this paranoid...don't ever expose your kid to the world. There are fucked up people everywhere, in schools, in playgrounds, in churches, everywhere.

Like I said, both of them are shitty people

[Lyman Zerga]

What position? This guy spoke to her daughter...he didn't do anything else to the kid except be creepy.




oh he was just being creepy?

that of course changes everything

[ms.peachy]

oh he was just being creepy?

that of course changes everything

Well, it does, actually. Being 'creepy' is not in and of itself a threat to the child. So what this woman has done is now put her family in a situation where she is not around at all to care for her children - how does this protect them?

[kaiser soze]

ya know, she's got a point there

[Lyman Zerga]

Well, it does, actually. Being 'creepy' is not in and of itself a threat to the child. So what this woman has done is now put her family in a situation where she is not around at all to care for her children - how does this protect them?

like i said before.. you need to be in that situation to really be able to know what you would do then and im sure it wouldnt be tea time ..
her first thoughts sure were not YAY im going to jail for this!


i think i wouldnt beat the shit out of him right away but if i told him to back off from my child and he didnt listen then he deserves a good bat action

[ms.peachy]

i think i wouldnt beat the shit out of him right away but if i told him to back off from my child and he didnt listen then he deserves a good bat action

"Back off"? He had talked to the child last year. That's it. What's there for him to "back off" from? We're not talking about a situation where, say, she looked out her window and saw him talking to the daughter right then and there and so perceived an immediate threat to the child's safety.

[kaiser soze]

Actually Lyman, my girlfriend, myself, and my son did experience a creepy guy.

We were walking in the mall and he came up behind us and I looked back at him and then he proceeded to walk up alongside us and started oogling into the stroller and telling us what a beautiful child we have and stuff.

Neither of us knew the guy and I'll admit it was a bit uncomfortable, but I didn't think of beating the shit out of him...rather we politely thanked him and I pushed the stroller into Borders (already been there that day) to break from the guy.

[hardnox71]

"Back off"? He had talked to the child last year.

If he did it once he'll do it again, given the chance, and might try to take it further the next time. I'm all for solving a problem before it even starts.

I ever see some fuck like this talking to my nine year old little girl and it's gonna be a long fucking day for both of us, guaranteed.

[Lyman Zerga]

If he did it once he'll do it again, given the chance, and might try to take it further the next time. I'm all for solving a problem before it even starts.

I ever see some fuck like this talking to my nine year old little girl and it's gonna be a long fucking day for both of us, guaranteed.

word.


kaiser so all the people who said nice things about the baby pictures you posted are creeps too? also theres a diffeence between creeps and sex offenders

also you have been with your kid, it wasnt alone so it's not so bad

imagine seeing your kid from the distance being on a playground with some strange guy standing all close to him/her
he doesnt even have to touch your kid but your inner alarm clocks would go off for sure and now imagine that guy is known for being a sex offender!

also there wouldnt be sex offenders anymore if all parents were beating the lives of such twats, so it's people like you who keep our planet shit!

but seriously though
as a kid i got felt up by strange guys quite a few times and im still having a weird picture of men today so you might understand why im not wanting such people to get away that easily

[ms.peachy]

[
imagine seeing your kid from the distance being on a playground with some strange guy standing all close to him/her
he doesnt even have to touch your kid but your inner alarm clocks would go off for sure and now imagine that guy is known for being a sex offender!


I think you are missing the point. If someone acts in the moment, it is one thing. But what this woman did was that nearly a year after the fact, when in fact no actual harm has been inflicted on the daughter, she commits an unprovoked assault on the man. And then lies to the police, claiming that he had actually molested her daughters, when in fact he had done no such thing. And to my way of thinking, as parent that is very irresponsible on several levels, not least of which is that she was willing to label her daughters as victims when they weren't, and that she is now subjecting them to the experience of having a mother who is incarcerated. So in the end, she has done them far, far more harm than this man has done.

I am not saying "oh hey, leave the poor guy alone". I have no sympathy for child molesters, as anyone who knows what I spent an entire month of last year doing knows. But what this woman did was wrong, and she cannot justify it by saying she was 'protecting' her child when her daughter was not at risk. Period.

[Lyman Zerga]

nope i wasnt, i was talking about kaiser's post not about the article

maybe she wont get jesus points for what she did but it's understandable
child molesters or any kind of molesters should get locked away forever cause it seems that illness is in most cases unhealable
and then the prisoners can do the beat up work for us

you always try to make yourself look so nice, same goes for kaiser while im quite honest and a realist and i dont say shit like im so wise and would never do such things and think out every fucking action i do before actually doing it BULLSHIT

[ms.peachy]

You are really not making a cogent argument. If what you are angry about is the failure of the justice system to deal with sex offenders appropriately, that's one thing. So then focus your efforts in that direction, rather than defending the blatantly criminal actions taken by the woman who is the subject of the thread. You can't have it both ways - you can't say "oh I'm not talking about the article" and then be like "what that woman did is understandable." I'm a parent, and I've actively put a sex offender behind bars, and I can't say I find her actions understandable. Her feelings, yes. Her actions, no. That's not about me being 'nice', that's about being a responsible adult and recognising that actions have consequences.

[Lyman Zerga]

That's not about me being 'nice', that's about being a responsible adult and recognising that actions have consequences.

you are saying that NOW in a chilled situation with chilled feelings, i think further

[ms.peachy]

you are saying that NOW in a chilled situation with chilled feelings, i think further


But I point out (yet again) that this woman was not in a situation where her child was in immediate danger. So it was not a case where she acted irrationally because she was confronted with an immediate threat to her child's safety. She found out that there was a sex offender in her area, then realised it was a giy who had spoken to her daughter the year before. Not five minutes ago, not yesterday. If you are operating from the position - as I do - that a parent's primary responsibility is to make decisions that are in the best interest of their children, then this woman failed on several counts.

[Lyman Zerga]

"i think i wouldnt beat the shit out of him right away but if i told him to back off from my child and he didnt listen then he deserves a good bat action"

.

[ms.peachy]

Again, if he has not spoken to the child in a year, what is there for him to "back off" from?

[Myu-to]

I'm Batman.

[Lyman Zerga]

Again, if he has not spoken to the child in a year, what is there for him to "back off" from?

to be honest i only read a very bit from that article cause i got my own big bag of problems lately

but if some child offender came too close to my kid i would do what i just said