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DIGI
03-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Not seeing it until Sunday, but I feel the need to stay true to A-Z's form. This movie should deserve it. There's already some gay rah-rah threads. Nigga, please. "Motumbo finger wave."

checkyourprez
03-07-2009, 12:25 AM
how we gonna rate shit without a poll ya dummy.



10/10


this move is the sheeeeaaaaat.

ScarySquirrel
03-07-2009, 01:18 AM
I've never read the comic books, but I give it an 8. It was really enjoyable.

ericlee
03-07-2009, 01:20 AM
Seeing it tomorrow. Getting hyped.(y)

Keep with the good words guys.

ET
03-07-2009, 01:33 AM
My only complaint was that it wasn't longer. I'm hoping it is extended when it hits Blu-Ray. Regardless, I agree with Ebert that this is a movie you need to see in theatres first, much like 300.

There are a lot of easter eggs in the movie. I'll list the first three I thought of...

1. Comedian's apartment #.
2. First knife in the movie.
3. Veidt's elevator music.


p.s. Eic, working on that remix slowly. I have a lot of obligations atm. Wish I had more free time...

checkyourprez
03-07-2009, 01:36 AM
My only complaint was that it wasn't longer. I'm hoping it is extended when it hits Blu-Ray. Regardless, I agree with Ebert that this is a movie you need to see in theatres first, much like 300.

There are a lot of easter eggs in the movie. I'll list the first three I thought of...

1. Comedian's apartment #.
2. First knife in the movie.
3. Veidt's elevator music.


p.s. Eic, working on that remix slowly. I have a lot of obligations atm. Wish I had more free time...


do elaborate, please.

ET
03-07-2009, 01:48 AM
I'll have to classify this as spoilerific.


1. His apartment number is 3001. Get it? 300. Ahh...
2. Hits a picture of Silk Spectre I as interpreted by James Jean. Oooh la la! (http://indiejones.wizarduniverse.com/2008/07/21/james-jeans-silk-spectre/)
3. It's Everybody Wants To Rule The World by Tears For Fears. I think only me and my buddy got that one as we laughed alittle too loud.[/URL]

ericlee
03-07-2009, 02:05 AM
p.s. Eic, working on that remix slowly. I have a lot of obligations atm. Wish I had more free time...

hey bro. You can put a halt to the remix. I've gotten better equipment since then.

Slap it together if you want. It can be like some rare demo.

I'm getting excited about watching the movie tomorrow..Back on track.

LongDuckDong
03-07-2009, 02:09 AM
Good flick. The gang-rape scene seemed really out of place though. I've never seen that stuff happen to a superhero before. Ouch.

HEIRESS
03-07-2009, 04:55 AM
BLUE WEINIE!

Gareth
03-07-2009, 09:54 AM
didnt even shrivel up in antarctica
i saw it just before and thought it ruled

The Notorious LOL
03-07-2009, 04:15 PM
8/10

I would have given it a 10/10 if the following changes had been made:

1). Soundtrack/score felt really out of place in parts. "The Sound of Silence" and "All Along the Watchtower" just felt...weird.

2). Silk Spectre II. That actress who plays her is just....ugh. I aint hatin on the nude scenes though. Va-va-va-voom!

3). Some inclusion of "Under the Hood" would've been cool. I guess it would have just added to an already long movie though, and intertwining the two would have been complex.

Far and away, Rorschach is the highlight of the movie.

A. Chimendez
03-07-2009, 05:56 PM
8/10

I would have given it a 10/10 if the following changes had been made:

1). Soundtrack/score felt really out of place in parts. "The Sound of Silence" and "All Along the Watchtower" just felt...weird.

2). Silk Spectre II. That actress who plays her is just....ugh. I aint hatin on the nude scenes though. Va-va-va-voom!

3). Some inclusion of "Under the Hood" would've been cool. I guess it would have just added to an already long movie though, and intertwining the two would have been complex.

Far and away, Rorschach is the highlight of the movie.

I agree with everything.

We get "Under the Hood" documentary on the 24th with the Black Freighter DVD.(y)

Gareth
03-07-2009, 06:26 PM
yeh some of the music felt weird
also they showed the NOTORIOUS trailer beforehand...i wanna see that!

Gareth
03-07-2009, 06:41 PM
I've never read the comic books, but I give it an 8. It was really enjoyable.

i think i enjoyed it more cos i had read it

roosta
03-07-2009, 09:41 PM
8/10

I would have given it a 10/10 if the following changes had been made:

1). Soundtrack/score felt really out of place in parts. "The Sound of Silence" and "All Along the Watchtower" just felt...weird.

2). Silk Spectre II. That actress who plays her is just....ugh. I aint hatin on the nude scenes though. Va-va-va-voom!

3). Some inclusion of "Under the Hood" would've been cool. I guess it would have just added to an already long movie though, and intertwining the two would have been complex.

Far and away, Rorschach is the highlight of the movie.

yup, i agree with most of this.

the actress for silk spectre was super hot, but she was shiiiiiiit otherwise.

i thought it was really good, but possibly a bit too loyal to the comics. do we really need the orgasmic flamethrower shot????

but yeah, well played for the most part.

b i o n i c
03-08-2009, 12:51 AM
8.5 for being slightly too long for people who havent read the book and a few little things, but overall an awesome representation of the story and a beautiful piece of visual art..

vv sure why not vv

Audio.
03-08-2009, 12:55 AM
no good to bring little teens to the movie, right?

Nygel
03-08-2009, 01:44 AM
i wouldnt.... i mean.... its got rape, blood, sex, cursing, etc.

checkyourprez
03-08-2009, 01:59 AM
i wouldnt.... i mean.... its got rape, blood, sex, cursing, etc.

only implied rape though. so, thats not so bad.

yea idk. i think if your kids can handle it, you know your kids, than take them. there is all of the aboved mentioned, i dont think its for all youngsters though, it does go into some dark places.

mathcart
03-08-2009, 02:53 AM
Just got back from seeing it- really enjoyed it. Very beautiful to look it (visually) and extremely faithful to the source material (almost frame by frame actually). The music was very weird- but not awkward, it made me laugh out loud a few times - especiallythe sound of silence for the funeral scene. They used really cliched songs ALOT but I think it weirdly worked with the scenes after I got over the initial ridiculousness of it. Given the Comedian and even Rorshach's struggle with the meaning of everyday mundane realities of life being a part of a (comedicly) ridiculous cruel and dark deeper truth about human nature it actually feels even more appropriate. Wither that was intentional or not is certainly up for debate. I'd tend to vote happy accident.

Overall I was very impressed, and I was totally prepared to be underwhelmed 8.5 bowties!
(y)

The Notorious LOL
03-08-2009, 03:26 AM
I agree with everything.

We get "Under the Hood" documentary on the 24th with the Black Freighter DVD.(y)

I intend to get this, and if Im feeling dorky enough, the comic DVD.

I look forward to the directors cut as well. I am re-reading the comic currently, and i will probably go check out the movie again this week.

A. Chimendez
03-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Yeah I heard the motion comic is really boring. And again, no Under the Hood, any of the written text bits and no Black Freighter.

I'm probably going to go see the movie again today.

Lyman Zerga
03-08-2009, 11:16 AM
please no more of that super hero crap, thanks

DIGI
03-08-2009, 11:24 AM
Go watch Captain Ron again.


Did anyone see this in Imax?

Lyman Zerga
03-08-2009, 11:24 AM
Go watch Captain Ron again.


Did anyone see this in Imax?

stop stalking me, bitch

beastieangel01
03-08-2009, 01:07 PM
8/10

I would have given it a 10/10 if the following changes had been made:

1). Soundtrack/score felt really out of place in parts. "The Sound of Silence" and "All Along the Watchtower" just felt...weird.

2). Silk Spectre II. That actress who plays her is just....ugh. I aint hatin on the nude scenes though. Va-va-va-voom!

3). Some inclusion of "Under the Hood" would've been cool. I guess it would have just added to an already long movie though, and intertwining the two would have been complex.

Far and away, Rorschach is the highlight of the movie.

For the soundtrack I felt like they just went painfully obvious choices or ones that didn't really make any sense. My boy and I were nitpicking that as well.

I too didn't think the actress that played Silk Spectre II was any good. She annoyed me. But then I remember not even really being a fan of her character in the book either, so maybe it works?

It dragged in a few parts, but overall, pretty darn good. One of my favorite part in the books is Dr. Manhattan holds the photo... don't want to spoil it for those that are unfamiliar. But yeah, I think that part was captured nicely.

Solid 8. I want to see it again.

oh, and I saw it in IMAX. I guess they didn't shoot it in the format because it didn't fill the entire screen as it should have, but it looked good anyway.

Nuzzolese
03-08-2009, 04:58 PM
a-z is probably walking out of a movie somewhere as we speak.

Below I have tried to avoid spoilers but it may include some.

I enjoyed this movie but I had a lot of problems with it, too.

First of all, it was LONG, way too long. The pacing of it was odd, I thought, and there were scenes that diverted my attention off in some other direction and then didn't seem to add much to the overall story, even though they weren't bad by themselves. For example, I didn't think they needed to have such a long backstory about John and his ex-girlfriend especially since the tone of it was rather misleading. Also, the scene on Mars was drawn out as well, and why have the scene with the burning building? It was cool, but why include it?

Secondly, it is a big budget action movie that is unapologetically attractive to a young audience but it is a very mature movie, I think. The young audience packed into my theater not only most likely missed several historical references, but they also kept giggling at all the nudity and violence. I didn't think some of the violent scenes were supposed to be funny, maybe they were and if so that's another problem I have with it.

It totally glorified the violence against innocent people. The character of the Comedian was made into a hero but he was such a bad person. And those scenes in Vietnam and the riots on the street, were we supposed to be cheering for the Watchmen and saying "yeah! that's awesome! haha!"? A lot of people in the audience sure thought so. The entire message of the movie was that it's justified to kill this amount of innocent people to save this amount. When is it ever justified to kill innocent people? I know that's from the story and not the movie's idea, so I guess I can't blame the movie for that. Same goes for a lot of the message I took from the movie, a very intolerant and anti-liberal message that even came from Rorschach whom I otherwise liked. But I didn't like the way he was dealt with.

Speaking of the audience laughing, so many serious and climactic moments of the movie were made into a joke, including Rorschach's thing. I hated that.

Anyway, it was very entertaining and compelling. I was never bored. The fight scenes were fantastic. The acting was good - a little overdone but it was suitable for the theme of the movie. Overall I give it like a 7, I guess.

roosta
03-08-2009, 05:49 PM
and why have the scene with the burning building? It was cool, but why include it?
.

That's a pivotal scene for Nite Owl / Silk Spectre II, its their return to costumed heroism..and breathes new life into them.

DIGI
03-08-2009, 06:59 PM
stop stalking me, bitch

Excuse me?

ET
03-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Same goes for a lot of the message I took from the movie, a very intolerant and anti-liberal message that even came from Rorschach whom I otherwise liked.

Speaking of the audience laughing, so many serious and climactic moments of the movie were made into a joke, including Rorschach's thing. I hated that.

You got most of the message. With an intolerant and anti-liberal power in place, are there any ramifications of that way of thinking? Can true "peace" really exist?

And what did you hate about Rorschach's thing? Do you mean his death?

Lyman Zerga
03-08-2009, 07:55 PM
Excuse me?

no, no more excuses
captain ron doesnt give you another chance

checkyourprez
03-08-2009, 09:14 PM
a-z is probably walking out of a movie somewhere as we speak.

Below I have tried to avoid spoilers but it may include some.

I enjoyed this movie but I had a lot of problems with it, too.

First of all, it was LONG, way too long. The pacing of it was odd, I thought, and there were scenes that diverted my attention off in some other direction and then didn't seem to add much to the overall story, even though they weren't bad by themselves. For example, I didn't think they needed to have such a long backstory about John and his ex-girlfriend especially since the tone of it was rather misleading. Also, the scene on Mars was drawn out as well, and why have the scene with the burning building? It was cool, but why include it?

i thought it was long to stay true to the book. that was part of its unfilmableness i believe. well that and all of the outlandish shit that happens.

Secondly, it is a big budget action movie that is unapologetically attractive to a young audience but it is a very mature movie, I think. The young audience packed into my theater not only most likely missed several historical references, but they also kept giggling at all the nudity and violence. I didn't think some of the violent scenes were supposed to be funny, maybe they were and if so that's another problem I have with it.

fair point. but if its in the book...and the movie is about the book...kids are kids though, maybe someday they will understand it.

It totally glorified the violence against innocent people. The character of the Comedian was made into a hero but he was such a bad person. And those scenes in Vietnam and the riots on the street, were we supposed to be cheering for the Watchmen and saying "yeah! that's awesome! haha!"? A lot of people in the audience sure thought so. The entire message of the movie was that it's justified to kill this amount of innocent people to save this amount. When is it ever justified to kill innocent people? I know that's from the story and not the movie's idea, so I guess I can't blame the movie for that. Same goes for a lot of the message I took from the movie, a very intolerant and anti-liberal message that even came from Rorschach whom I otherwise liked. But I didn't like the way he was dealt with.

it definatly did glorify violence against innocent people. i thought it was all pretty sweet. it went to show what kind of world they were living in. our government actually did stuff like that, probably other worse things that we will never know about. to glorify it is a bit wrong but at the same time even though they were superheros, doing bad things at times, they were still superheros. and eventually the comedian gets it. thats a big part of the movie i think, when he crys and realizes what his life really was. what live for everyone was. a sick joke. and as for the anti-liberal message, i personally think there was a liberal message underlying the film in the end. the little jab at bush at the end when they say "who wants a cowboy in the whitehouse anyway", or something to that extent, was a direct dig at bush. i had never read the book so i was very pleased by the ending. it was quite beautiful to me. in the sick joke of a world they really did the best thing for it. because it surely would have been much worse had the ussr and usa actually went to war.

Speaking of the audience laughing, so many serious and climactic moments of the movie were made into a joke, including Rorschach's thing. I hated that.

Anyway, it was very entertaining and compelling. I was never bored. The fight scenes were fantastic. The acting was good - a little overdone but it was suitable for the theme of the movie. Overall I give it like a 7, I guess.

but that is all my opinion. and like i said i never read the book. maybe that explains some things different or better than i did.

mickill
03-09-2009, 05:15 AM
I felt the same way about this movie as I did with 300:

-more visually impressive than anything
-had tons of potential, a lot of which ultimately wasn't utilized
-a lot of lulls, didn't flow very well
-entertaining overall, but underwhelming
-the trailer set very high expectations

I can't say I disliked it. I mostly enjoyed it, but it wasn't anywhere near as good as I thought it was going to be. I didn't think Billy Crudup's voice suited his character either. And the whole scene with the missing girl seemed to sensationalize the subject matter. I know it was being faithful to the source material, but it seemed pretty excessive.

But I thought the opening credits were great. That was probably the only time that using a popular song really worked in the film. Most of the actors were decent, even Malin Akerman (but I really couldn't get into the way the guy playing Adrian Veidt acted).

I give it a 7.

camo
03-09-2009, 05:26 AM
Awesome film.

Best line in the film (which wasn't in the book) was Rorschach screaming 'I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me' just after the prison guard had jumped on him for deep fat frying that cons face (y)(y)(y)

Also, the Comedian was a great cast. He fitted the character down to a tee. Loved the bit where he shot a gas canister at a perp to knock him out.


9/10

ET
03-09-2009, 06:23 AM
...what the hell kind of accent did Veidt have anyway?

camo
03-09-2009, 06:34 AM
Suave know-it-all? :D

ET
03-09-2009, 07:06 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of mush-mouthed Germanesque gaylord.

camo
03-09-2009, 07:10 AM
haha I see it

checkyourprez
03-09-2009, 08:15 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of mush-mouthed Germanesque gaylord.

ya but you gotta think he pulled a lot of pussy.

that is if it was into pussy.


he could have had any woman in the world, instead he choose the comfort of his own hand.

i could see that being true with him however.

Nuzzolese
03-09-2009, 09:23 AM
That's a pivotal scene for Nite Owl / Silk Spectre II, its their return to costumed heroism..and breathes new life into them.

That's true, I did love that scene almost as much as the prison riot scene.


You got most of the message. With an intolerant and anti-liberal power in place, are there any ramifications of that way of thinking? Can true "peace" really exist?

And what did you hate about Rorschach's thing? Do you mean his death?.

That's a good question, but the watchmen weren't the political power, they were supposed to be above that and fight for what is truly just, not work for the government. If they call themselves vigilantes then they have their own agenda. Speaking of which, I wonder why they had the Comedian assassinate JFK. Do you think they were suggesting that JFK was actually not as great as history remembers him, or that Comedian was just that awful, or that he was being paid to do that by someone?

And as for Rorschach, well I didn't want to give that away! But as long as it's out there. Yes, I hated his death. He was made into a laugh!

Nuzzolese
03-09-2009, 09:33 AM
but that is all my opinion. and like i said i never read the book. maybe that explains some things different or better than i did.

No, you're right. It was true to the book, I guess. Most of my issues with this movie are actually probably issues with the book. The movie was just an attempt to be faithful to it. But I would hate to think that there is a stronger message that comes across in the book, that was possibly distorted by the movie. I guess I didn't think the Comedian came to enough justice, and I guess I didn't think the final tone of the movie was appropriate given the measures that were taken to get there. Also, I don't doubt that there have been meetings like that in the movie between the president and heads of the military - I was not offended by any suggestions of the twistedness of government power and fear. I just thought that in the end, Ozymandias and Dr. Manhattan were no better. In a twisted world, I guess you get twisted heroes. Ah well.

I LOVED the opening credits! I loved how they showed this alternate reality of history and all those hallmark scenes we remember like the end of the war kissing scene, being altered with the heroes.

checkyourprez
03-09-2009, 10:11 AM
That's true, I did love that scene almost as much as the prison riot scene.




That's a good question, but the watchmen weren't the political power, they were supposed to be above that and fight for what is truly just, not work for the government. If they call themselves vigilantes then they have their own agenda. Speaking of which, I wonder why they had the Comedian assassinate JFK. Do you think they were suggesting that JFK was actually not as great as history remembers him, or that Comedian was just that awful, or that he was being paid to do that by someone?

And as for Rorschach, well I didn't want to give that away! But as long as it's out there. Yes, I hated his death. He was made into a laugh!

i thought that he did it for the government, at their request. like how he was in Vietnam fighting for the government.

kind of how in real life their are conspiracy theories that the cia or whoever was involved in killing jfk.

in your other post where you said it portrays the liberal message in a bad way, i saw it as the exact opposite. i think in that world it was showing you cannot trust your government. and that the anti liberal establishment is wrong. because if it wasnt for the watchmen nixon would have executed the preemptive strike on the ussr. it was inevitable that nuclear war was going to happen. and the fallout would have been much worse than what ended up happening. plus there would still have had a lot of animosity between what was left of the ussr and the usa. coupled with the fact that the rest of the world would also hold a grudge against the USA for helping destroy most of it. the watchmen were just a product of their society. thats why they went to such depths with some of their backstories. and society can be shaped by the people who run it.

that is why i think the ending is so brilliant.

Nuzzolese
03-09-2009, 10:48 AM
I was a little mislead by the scenes with John's exwife, Janie, was it? I started to think she had done something to set John up, intentionally, and even her appearance on the TV interview seemed staged or orchestrated, which maybe it was for the exposure of Dr. Manhattan, but I thought her emotional reaction seemed staged, too. I must have misunderstood that.

Nuzzolese
03-09-2009, 10:55 AM
i thought that he did it for the government, at their request. like how he was in Vietnam fighting for the government.

kind of how in real life their are conspiracy theories that the cia or whoever was involved in killing jfk.

Do you think it was clearly implied, or intentionally ambiguous?

in your other post where you said it portrays the liberal message in a bad way, i saw it as the exact opposite. i think in that world it was showing you cannot trust your government. and that the anti liberal establishment is wrong. because if it wasnt for the watchmen nixon would have executed the preemptive strike on the ussr. it was inevitable that nuclear war was going to happen. and the fallout would have been much worse than what ended up happening. plus there would still have had a lot of animosity between what was left of the ussr and the usa. coupled with the fact that the rest of the world would also hold a grudge against the USA for helping destroy most of it. the watchmen were just a product of their society. thats why they went to such depths with some of their backstories. and society can be shaped by the people who run it.

So in the movie, the bitterness we see towards the government's lies and posturing is justified and therefore Rorschach's anti-liberal attitude is not directed at the idea of well-meaning government involvement, but instead is his disappointment in the government and its failure to protect innocent people? Okay, fair enough.

that is why i think the ending is so brilliant.


The introduction of a common global enemy making the world unite in peace seems unlikely without periodic reminders of the danger. Otherwise people would forget. And were they saying that the peace was brought about by fear? Fear is dangerous, isn't it? It's a bitter message, a cynical one, doesn't mean I have anything against it. I'm not really clear on the message, I guess. But maybe that's a good thing that it has gotten me thinking.

Now, what does it mean if the paper publishes Rorschach's journal? Does that mean he gets the final word just as he had wanted to? Does that mean the world will find out the truth about Dr. Manhattan, and therefore will no longer fear him but instead will fear Ozymandias, or whomever can have control over Dr. Manhattan's power?[/

checkyourprez
03-09-2009, 10:59 AM
I was a little mislead by the scenes with John's exwife, Janie, was it? I started to think she had done something to set John up, intentionally, and even her appearance on the TV interview seemed staged or orchestrated, which maybe it was for the exposure of Dr. Manhattan, but I thought her emotional reaction seemed staged, too. I must have misunderstood that.

im pretty sure it was.

it was done by the smartest man dude so he could mess with the docs head.



i found this on wiki, might help with your earlier problems with some stuff...

Additionally, superheroes have become unpopular among the public, which has led to the passage of legislation in 1977 to outlaw them. While many of the heroes retired, Doctor Manhattan and the Comedian operate as government-sanctioned agents, and Rorschach continues to operate outside the law.

mathcart
03-09-2009, 07:26 PM
or they could of just done this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w)

(y)

checkyourprez
03-09-2009, 08:51 PM
cartoons are for kids you silly rabbit.

ET
03-09-2009, 09:41 PM
That's a good question, but the watchmen weren't the political power, they were supposed to be above that and fight for what is truly just, not work for the government. If they call themselves vigilantes then they have their own agenda. Speaking of which, I wonder why they had the Comedian assassinate JFK. Do you think they were suggesting that JFK was actually not as great as history remembers him, or that Comedian was just that awful, or that he was being paid to do that by someone?

And as for Rorschach, well I didn't want to give that away! But as long as it's out there. Yes, I hated his death. He was made into a laugh!

Fucking hell I just gave it all away. I guess if you're on page 2 you've seen the movie. That's how I'll justify it...

I think that the "Watchmen" picked up from where their predecessors left off and were perverted by the powers that be into their long arm of the law. By the time most of them realized what was going on it was too late and they went their seperate ways or at least were forced to. The Comedian is the prime example of this since he'd been through the entire run of the capes. He was the only one who survived because he played ball with the President. I'm excluding Dr Manhattan on purpose.

But even during Vietnam they all were under the impression that they were serving the greater good. That their enemies deserved to be destroyed. For Manhattan it meant less people had to die overall and for the Comedian he used that way of thinking to justify his actions. He's just looking for a reason to hurt people, for the most part. I'm sure it's a lot deeper than that.

I never really tried to understand why they had the Comedian fire the bullet. But why would anyone in reality wanted to have JFK assassinated? He seemed to be well loved and had a lot of influence. I'm sure he made a lot of powerful people nervous.

I wish I had my book to see how Rorschach ended up in it but in the movie they make with the symbolism in a very blatant way. The idea is that he literally leaves his mark on the world in death and that his legacy will be around a lot longer than everyone thinks, possibly. That's what I got out of it. It's pretty amazing how Dr Manhattan's penis held up in the cold too.

checkyourprez
03-09-2009, 10:05 PM
hah a nice serious post ruined by a cock joke at the end.


but i like what you said overall.

Rorschach had to be killed because he was uncompromising in his fight for justice. which is why him leaving the journal is an interesting end to it, leaving the possibility that he may still be fighting for what he believes in after his death.

mate_spawn_die
03-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Best line in the film (which wasn't in the book) was Rorschach screaming 'I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me' just after the prison guard had jumped on him for deep fat frying that cons face (y)(y)(y)

(y) that scene was 10/10

the film was 7/10

mate_spawn_die
05-11-2009, 12:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCRysw5Beo

camo
05-11-2009, 02:13 PM
^thats genius (y)

Lex Diamonds
05-12-2009, 05:52 AM
Funny videos. (y)

I know this thread is old, but a lot of people seem to have misunderstood this movie in many ways, Nuzz in particular. The overall tone of the book is one of futility, with the characters struggling against both inner and worldly demons such as the shame of the past, corruption in the government, increase in anti social behaviour etc and more often than not losing the battle. And Nuzz, Rorschach's death was by no means supposed to be funny- you somehow managed to miss the defiant honour and sobering abruptness of his demise, which was the perfect finish to his unflinching mission for eye-for-an-eye justice.

The Comedian/JFK thing was just a wry little opening credits joke that wasn't in the book, included simply to drive home the idea of a world with superheroes and also to prepare you for the wicked underhanded ways of the right wing government. This is a recurring theme throughout the novel which, if you haven't read it, could be described as an extremely intelligent and subversive pacifist reaction to the cold war- it's by no means just a "superhero comic book" as some would have it.

And, though some of you seem to have missed it completely, the ending is a big fat twist. The New Frontiersman is so anti-liberal and pro-war that Rorschach's journal falling into their hands is a disaster. They will undoubtedly publish the whole story with their own incendiary war-mongering twist and the thousands of deaths (including the main characters) caused by Ozymandias' plot will have been totally in vain. This is Moore's final stamp of futility and genius irony on the story and for me plays a large part in making it so amazing.

Planetary
05-12-2009, 06:42 AM
why dont you just marry the watchmen

Lex Diamonds
05-12-2009, 12:34 PM
The joke's on you, the wedding's tomorrow and you're not invited!

camo
05-12-2009, 12:36 PM
DER DUM DER DUUUUM, DEEEER DUM DER DUM (http://images.cutoutandkeep.net/projects/12334/DSC00991_1238043387.jpg)

The Notorious LOL
05-12-2009, 01:10 PM
best scene in movie = this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9UF1HsP0K0)

camo
05-12-2009, 01:36 PM
I fully agree.

Lex Diamonds
05-12-2009, 01:38 PM
i liked the bit wit da boobs more lol!!1

camo
05-12-2009, 01:39 PM
c'mon son...it's ok...just admit it...you really preferred the massive blue wang bits (y)

The Notorious LOL
05-12-2009, 01:51 PM
I wasn't hatin on them titties.

camo
05-12-2009, 01:52 PM
I reconised her FACE from the first Harold and Kumar film (y)

The Notorious LOL
05-12-2009, 01:54 PM
I started laughing when I first saw her and said "oh shit is that Freakshows wife?"

camo
05-12-2009, 02:04 PM
come to think of it she's topless in H&K. Nice to see her get by with her acting skills :D