My local hospital on nation news

[Planetary]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7948293.stm

me and close family have experienced it first hand, it's been this way for several years.

it upsets me to think my grandma had the misfortune of spending her final hours there.

[paul jones]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7948293.stm

me and close family have experienced it first hand, it's been this way for several years.

it upsets me to think my grandma had the misfortune of spending her final hours there.

hospitals were better run years ago.nobody cares anymore,or not enough.We live in a selfish society.

[Planetary]

its been terrible as long as i can remember.

my dad reckons its ever since it became business orientated. cutbacks are made as if people's lives don't depend on it.

Despite the trust stating chief executive Martin Yeates had resigned earlier this month, it has now been revealed he is suspended on full pay while an independent inquiry takes place.

makes me sick

[Adam]

I will defend the NHS to its end. Its one of the greatest systems in the world but poorly managed. Living in a city with a large university hospital I know a lot of people who work for the NHS, they care about what they do, they work harder than in any other industry, they take abuse, get no thanks, work themselves into an early grave with 12 hour shifts and get picked on by the media no end.

Yes it needs more money, yes there is too many things that are outsourced but I can honestly say that without them (say if I lived in america) my sister would be dead, my mum & dad would of died sooner and suffered more, my brother in law wouldn't be able to walk, I'd be crutches. Or we'd all be hundreds of thousands of pounds in debt as a whole.

I do feel bad for people that may of lost a loved one unnecessary but it would be a lot worse without it. And when the BBC, Daily Mail, Sky News et al hype these stories to give everyone the impression that the whole system doesn't work when it does, that makes me sick.

Sorry to rant, its just I've suffered so much heart ache these last few years that if I look at the whole thing objectively I think the NHS is one of the greatest things about the UK, think about your life over the last say 10 years and I bet that there has been times the NHS has made things so much better for you.

And for those who think we should all go private, then you are living in the wrong society; we in the UK are a caring society, we pay higher taxes to look after those who aren't as fortunate as ourselves and when we need a helping hand, it is there for us.

Ok, I'll go now, it was just I happened to be in front of a TV somewhere yesterday and BBC News was making me so angry at their spin. I know the linked story puts little spin on it but the way TV was going on about it yesterday it was suggesting if you go into hospital YOU WILL DIE!

[Guy Incognito]

i know this is a really obvious thing to say but the nhs is fucking brilliant, i am so glad i live in this country where it doesnt matter how much i earn to get the care i need. Watch sicko by michael moore or watch all the films on comic relief to make you realise what we have here, sure it could be better but its pretty good from where i am sitting.

[Planetary]

I never said the NHS was a bad thing, its a good concept, but the people who run it have a responsibility to keep it at a certain standard and some areas are being severely neglected.

I never said at any point that i dont appreciate these people's efforts, its been a well known fact that being a nurse is a low paying, thankless task for years, but you can't really comment until you've been to this place. have a look at the information. terrible hygeine, untrained staff, broken or missing equipment. there's no defending it and these no excuse for it. especially with all these taxes that go on making it 'brilliant'.

and as for comparing the NHS to the health services provided in africa or america. why would you even think thats a valid point to make? im sure africans would expect a better return on there thousands of pounds worth of taxes had they payed them.

There's no defending it against this one, sorry.

[Adam]

I wasn't having a go at you - I was just on about how the media spins these things.

I know 400 extra deaths on average is a lot but its still an average, BBC yesterday was saying that it caused 400 deaths rather than this trust having a abnormally high death rate for one year without taking in any other variables. And they say quietly at the end now things have been improved but you're left with the over all impression that its still like that.

So sorry, I meant to say it was the media, not you :o

[trailerprincess]

I think the NHS is generally brilliant. There are horrendous instances like this one which occur occassionally, but on the whole the system should be
lauded.

I also think that people should have the right and opportunity to pay for private healthcase if they so wish. I don't know all the logistics/arguments but in my head, it should mean that the same amount of money (raised through taxes) is needed to treat fewer people - thus making increasing the amount available per patient, leading to higher quality of facilities/care etc.