old people, lol

[b i o n i c]

how old is old? how old can you be and still be young? i don't wanna grow up, im a toys r' us kid

[Videodrome]

how old is old? how old can you be and still be young? i don't wanna grow up, im a toys r' us kid
90 is old. didn't you just turn 90 a few days ago? happy belated!

[taquitos]

you're only as old as you feel

[Adam]

Well I am freaking out this year that I'll be half the age (29) that my Dad died at (58). I hope that doesn't mean I am middle aged?

I use to think 30 was old when I was early teens. But I've dated women who'll now be nearly 40. I dunno what is old - when you have the inability to operate a TV/DVD menu maybe?

[Adam]

you're only as old as you feel

you're only as old as the person you are feeling

[hpdrifter]

I don't know, I think I've always felt too old. When I was 16 I thought my life had passed me by and it was too late for me to start anything new. I've felt that way at every milestone pretty much ever since. Sad thing is, I'm a late bloomer.

[b i o n i c]

ever wanna get your old teenage mutant ninja turtles out and play with them? yeah, i dont. he-man, motherfuckers!

[Videodrome]

you're only as old as the person you are feeling

whoa!

[Lyman Zerga]

im too old to be a virgin

[Videodrome]

ever wanna get your old teenage mutant ninja turtles out and play with them? yeah, i dont. he-man, motherfuckers!

what about storm shadow versus snake eyes?

[b i o n i c]

i used to think that old is when you start calling things running shoes, tennis shoes, slacks

[b i o n i c]

what about storm shadow versus snake eyes?

kwik-kick, mofo!

[b i o n i c]

I don't know, I think I've always felt too old. When I was 16 I thought my life had passed me by and it was too late for me to start anything new. I've felt that way at every milestone pretty much ever since. Sad thing is, I'm a late bloomer.

i've always felt this way too.

[b i o n i c]

im too old to be a virgin

go get laid already

[Adam]

Lyman - you should totally do Bob. Then there could be a sticky* mega thread about it all.

*sorry (half intentional pun)

[jabumbo]

it amuses me to no end watching old folks struggle with technology


things like my dad confused by the difference between uploading and downloading (he says "i still don't know the difference") and a guy at work not being able to search for a document online that i found in about 2 minutes.


you're old when you have to get assistance to do basic technological things

[Adam]

it amuses me to no end watching old folks struggle with technology


things like my dad confused by the difference between uploading and downloading (he says "i still don't know the difference") and a guy at work not being able to search for a document online that i found in about 2 minutes.


you're old when you have to get assistance to do basic technological things

Reminds me of a line from Charile Brooker's guardian article from Monday

encouraging them to "have a quick go" on some new release with the promise that it's "easy" and "intuitive", only to spend the next half-hour trying to explain that "you have to press X to open the door ... press X ... that's the blue button with an X on it ... no, you can't climb that tree in the background, it's just a bit of decoration - look, you just can't, so stop trying - oh ... you've accessed the inventory now ... the inventory, that's what you're carrying ... no, you've gone back to the menu now ... oh for Christ's sake, just give it here. Just get out and leave me alone ... "

well more than a line but you know what I mean.

[funk63]

If you gotta ask, you're old.

[b i o n i c]

yeah^

watching my grandpa die and noticing some changes in my parents, it kind of reminds you of your own mortality. i think old = stagnation

[Adam]

Definitions of old on the Web:

* (used especially of persons) having lived for a relatively long time or attained a specific age; "his mother is very old"; "a ripe old age"; "how ...
* of long duration; not new; "old tradition"; "old house"; "old wine"; "old country"; "old friendships"; "old money"
* old(a): (used for emphasis) very familiar; "good old boy"; "same old story"
* skilled through long experience; "an old offender"; "the older soldiers"
* erstwhile(a): belonging to some prior time; "erstwhile friend"; "our former glory"; "the once capital of the state"; "her quondam lover"
* honest-to-god: (used informally especially for emphasis); "a real honest-to-god live cowboy"; "had us a high old time"; "went upriver to look at a sure-enough fish wheel"
* of a very early stage in development; "Old English is also called Anglo Saxon"; "Old High German is High German from the middle of the 9th to the end of the 11th century"
* past times (especially in the phrase `in days of old')
* previous(a): just preceding something else in time or order; "the previous owner"; "my old house was larger"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* "Old" is a song recorded by American heavy metal band Machine Head. It was released as a single in two different versions. The title track is taken off of the 1994 album Burn My Eyes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_(song)

* Old, the seventh full-length album released by Starflyer 59, was released on Tooth & Nail Records in 2003. It is often considered one of the best albums by Starflyer 59, as it reintroduces the band's rock oriented sound. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_(Starflyer_59_album)

* OLD (originally an acronym for Old Lady Drivers) was a grindcore and industrial metal band from Bergenfield, New Jersey, signed to Earache Records ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLD_(band)

* Of an object, concept, relationship, etc., having existed for a relatively long period of time; Of a living being, having lived for relatively ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/old

* a planetary surface that has been modified little since its formation typically featuring large numbers of impact craters (compare young). Oort, Jan Hendrik 1900-1992
www.nineplanets.org/help.html

* A roasted coffee that has been left for too long changes aroma and acquires a specific and disagreeable flavor. Similar to oldish but with stronger hay-like flavor.
www.coffeesage.com/coffee-glossary-of-terms/.

[Nuzzolese]

Old people have a lot to teach us. They've been through more than you, they've seen more, and sometimes it's worth it to try to pry that information out of them no matter how frustrating that can be. There's a wealth of experience, knowledge, and wisdom tangled up in their yarn-ball mess of brains.

Sometimes their kooky old ways are amusing and at the very least you learn that age doesn't always bring greater sensitivity or tolerance. The fact that some of them are still stuck in a pre-civil rights mindset can give you an idea of what it must have been like to live back then. These people were jerks then and they're jerks now!

Also, I know it's grotesque but it's a good learning experience to take a good close look at an older person, physically. Let's face it, you're going there too someday and it's important to get a sense of the terrain before the journey.


Several months ago I discovered the TV series Band of Brothers. I rented all the episodes in one shot, watched the bonus features with the interviews with the actual paratroopers from the 101st airborne division - the real men who fought in the battle at Bastogne and captured Hitler's Eagle's Nest and then after the war went on to becme carpenters and teachers and to own business and have families.

I know it was just a TV show and it was meant to sort of canonize and create a halo around the soldiers, possibly even to exaggerate their heroism and bravery. But even so, I thought how funny it was that the same guys who had to fight in that war - do suicidal maneuvers, suffer exhaustion and see their friends get blown up - were the men who, years later, maybe got laughed at for not knowing how to use a VCR, for having to take medications, or for becoming forgetful.

[camo]

I'm 28 soon and I'm starting to feel old. Humpth.

[Nuzzolese]

A young man called me "m'am" in the grocery store. I don't know which is more telling of my age, that he called me 'm'am' or that I just now referred to him as a young man. You decide, I'm going to go fall asleep in the chair watching my shows.

[b i o n i c]

yes. im talking about the not good parts of getting old. like growing out of touch. in this case, im referring to the middle stage of old not the end stage..

i hugely admire a lot of old people i know/have known. i like "old" people who know how to stay relevant, who don't forget who they are, who don't give up, who stay independent. i had a lot of good times with my grandpap, he was one of the funniest people ever. i know he hated being old and was young at heart. i think what killed him faster was realizing that deterioration was final, he wouldnt ever get to go out dancing again, women no longer appreciated his flirting, he couldnt go outside and enjoy the sun anymore, not sit on the porch and have a nice steak again.

[Nuzzolese]

bionic, what do you think you'll be like as an old man?

[b i o n i c]

im gonna be dead by my mid 50s, probably of a heart attack like my other grandfafa

[Nuzzolese]

You may not if you live healthy. Don't you take care of yourself?

[ms.peachy]

Several months ago I discovered the TV series Band of Brothers. I rented all the episodes in one shot, watched the bonus features with the interviews with the actual paratroopers from the 101st airborne division - the real men who fought in the battle at Bastogne and captured Hitler's Eagle's Nest and then after the war went on to becme carpenters and teachers and to own business and have families.

I know it was just a TV show and it was meant to sort of canonize and create a halo around the soldiers, possibly even to exaggerate their heroism and bravery. But even so, I thought how funny it was that the same guys who had to fight in that war - do suicidal maneuvers, suffer exhaustion and see their friends get blown up - were the men who, years later, maybe got laughed at for not knowing how to use a VCR, for having to take medications, or for becoming forgetful.

I had a similar feeling after reading The Night Watch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/feb/04/fiction.sarahwaters) by Sarah Waters. Thinking about people living in London through the war, through the Blitz, the whole "make do and mend", "keep calm and carry on" thing - people getting on with life with desperate shortages of everything, not knowing if a V2 was going to land on their heads in the middle of the night. The way they just bloody got on with it and did what needed to be done with the most minimal supplies; and people of my generation on down, we freak out and become incapacitated if we can't get a signal on our mobiles, you know?

[b i o n i c]

there are still just as many people like that around. and there were just as many dumb people back then as now

[ms.peachy]

there are still just as many people like that around. and there were just as many dumb people back then as now

I'd like to believe that is true, but I am not convinced. I don't think it's a matter of people today being 'dumber', I just think we are a lot softer, on the whole.

[Nuzzolese]

there are still just as many people like that around. and there were just as many dumb people back then as now

Yes, and that's the whole point I think, that they are no worse than you or me. They were young in their day, we are/were young in ours.


Or, maybe not.

[ericlee]

It's just a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and knowing when to take charge.

As in Christopher Walken's theory on Conan a while back, he described men as having the mentality of 8 year olds and once they reach 8, it's the ending of their aging.

He said Conan was different and stopped aging at 5 though.

[hpdrifter]

I felt pretty old the other day. I went to the mall and when I came out there was a kid wearing a black Nirvana sweatshirt, you know the black one with the yellow smiley face with the "X"s for eyes? Anyway, he had this long stringy greasy hair and I thought, what the crap, is it somehow 1993 again?

I felt like he had co-opted my high school years. What does he know about it anyway? It's not my fault that all his worthless generation contributed to the world is the teen pop explosion of the early 00s.

[b i o n i c]

so, then what does it mean to be young?

[b i o n i c]

I felt like he had co-opted my high school years. What does he know about it anyway? It's not my fault that all his worthless generation contributed to the world is the teen pop explosion of the early 00s.

i think a bunch of us here probably do that and i think the instinct is to protect the value of our experiences. i always try to catch myself when i feel that way. in the 90s we were coopting the 60s & 70s.. beatles, stones, led zep. instead of just laughing at them, i try to laugh and smile as i smack the back of their heads. theyre doing what they should be doing

[hpdrifter]

Well I guess I'd say that's what it means to be young, then.

[b i o n i c]

just think we are a lot softer, on the whole.

do you think that a generation of the 1910's were softer than a generation of the 1810's?

[ms.peachy]

do you think that a generation of the 1910's were softer than a generation of the 1810's?

I don't know enough about either 1910 or 1810 to have an opinion about that. I can only compare the things for which I have a frame of reference.

edited to add: It just occurred to me that you are thinking I am making a statement about the differences being down to time, some sort of romanticising of an older generation. I'm more talking about something that is a result of enculturation, sort of the 'consequence of plenty', if you see what I mean. It has happened throughout history, it's not a 20th century phenomenon.

[Adam]

All I seem to do is quote all day, its cus I don't have any of my own opinions.

We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self-control." These words - expressing the all-too-familiar contemporary condemnation of young people - were actually inscribed on a 6,000-year-old Egyptian tomb.

Later, in the fourth century BC, Plato was heard to remark: "What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets, inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"

And then, a few hundred years later, in AD1274, Peter the Hermit joined the chorus. "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint ... As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behaviour and dress."

source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/mar/17/ephebiphobia-young-people-mosquito)

[b i o n i c]

yup. ^

i like to say to people who complain how the world keeps getting 'worse', how life is getting tougher, how much better things used to be... things were shitty back then. they've always been "shitty". and further back in time you go, the shittier it probably was. except for some random farts in time (egypt, rome, the maya or whatever) in relatively small portions of the world at a time, the harder life was. in that sense, yeah, i can see how you think that in general we're soft, peach.

does it make one that much of a better person to have washed clothes by hand in freezing water? or had to walk 10 miles a day to school? no, it probably means arthritis and gnarley corns. people will marvel someday at how we had to type each one of these words one letter at a time with our fingers, but all it really means is carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Nuzzolese]

It's just a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and knowing when to take charge.

As in Christopher Walken's theory on Conan a while back, he described men as having the mentality of 8 year olds and once they reach 8, it's the ending of their aging.

He said Conan was different and stopped aging at 5 though.

I don't understand your point. What, exactly, is a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and when to take charge? Are you referring to old age being the balance?

And how does Walken's comment explain this? You're saying that all men aged 8 and above are the same, and have the mentality of an 8 year old?

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

i am almost 29 and a half. i still get my hair cut by my mum. i plan on remaining a slightly immature 27 until i am 38. not sure what to do after that.

[Nuzzolese]

I enjoy ice milk while waving at people from my front porch rocker.

[ms.peachy]

except for some random farts in time (egypt, rome, the maya or whatever) in relatively small portions of the world at a time, the harder life was.

I think the argument can be made though that we are at the beginning of the end of a similar epoch overall, in the long view of history, starting with the seeds of the industrial revolution. There are of course scholars who have already drawn the comparison between modern Western society and the end days of the Roman Empire. Not that I expect we are about to plunge into a new Dark Ages necessarily (although it's possible) - none of us will be around to see how it plays out in the view of historians - or that we are at some sort of apocalyptic Biblical "end of days"; just that I think it's probably we're reaching the end bracket of an era overall.

[hpdrifter]

Lucky us

[ericlee]

I don't understand your point. What, exactly, is a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and when to take charge? Are you referring to old age being the balance?

And how does Walken's comment explain this? You're saying that all men aged 8 and above are the same, and have the mentality of an 8 year old?

I mean loosen up once and a while. Too many people are too worried about acting "their age" and are uptight and boring making them feel old.

And for Walken's words, well they're his words. You'll have to ask him what he means.

[Lyman Zerga]

go get laid already

turns out im not layable at all

[paul jones]

this guy doesn't worry about being old(y)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvkmqbgUU_E

[funk63]

^old school

[Nuzzolese]

I mean loosen up once and a while. Too many people are too worried about acting "their age" and are uptight and boring making them feel old.

And for Walken's words, well they're his words. You'll have to ask him what he means.


So people who worry too much about being old need to find the balance that you have found, between acting kiddish and taking charge. Do you think taking charge means maturity?

Why would you quote someone if you didn't really know what they meant or how it relates to your own comments?

[Kid Presentable]

Just live and shut the fuck up, already.

[AceFace]

speaking of old. there's this old guy here. he's in his 70s. that's old to me.

anyway i keep watching him go into a person's office that isn't here today, open his closet up and steal his candy. he then puts it in his pocket, walks slowly bye me as if i don't know and then immediately eats it when he's past me and into his office.

i just keep hearing wrappers rattling back there. i wonder how much he's taken!?

[Kid Presentable]

speaking of old. there's this old guy here. he's in his 70s. that's old to me.

anyway i keep watching him go into a person's office that isn't here today, open his closet up and steal his candy. he then puts it in his pocket, walks slowly by me as if i don't know and then immediately eats it when he's past me and into his office.

i just keep hearing wrappers rattling back there. i wonder how much he's taken!?
yam

[b i o n i c]

old is bold.

[ET]

I'll consider myself "old" when I can't wipe my own ass anymore.

[ericlee]

So people who worry too much about being old need to find the balance that you have found, between acting kiddish and taking charge. Do you think taking charge means maturity?

Why would you quote someone if you didn't really know what they meant or how it relates to your own comments?

too many questions.

/head in hands

[zippo]

you're only as old as you feel

i really do go by this, but theres a limit, im thinking youre old when you turn 40. you cant say youre 40 and say youre young.

but this is probably like how we all thought 30 was old when we were 12, we´ll be 70 and laugh at how we thought 40 was old, when its so "young"! i cant see it like that right now though, im too young. this is so relative.

[rirv]

My grandpa was 68 when I was born, so I've always remembered him as being 70+. He is now 91. He's always seemed the same age to me - old. Twenty years have passed and he seems the same age, is there a difference between 70 and 90? There is between 0 and 20, 10 and 30, 20 and 40, 30 and 50 etc. But old is old I guess. thoughts?

[ms.peachy]

Great, 3 weeks until I'm officially old. Super.

[b i o n i c]

i really do go by this, but theres a limit, im thinking youre old when you turn 40. you cant say youre 40 and say youre young.

but this is probably like how we all thought 30 was old when we were 12, we´ll be 70 and laugh at how we thought 40 was old, when its so "young"! i cant see it like that right now though, im too young. this is so relative.

she came out from the shadows. people don't age in the shadows

[zippo]

My grandpa was 68 when I was born, so I've always remembered him as being 70+. He is now 91. He's always seemed the same age to me - old. Twenty years have passed and he seems the same age, is there a difference between 70 and 90? There is between 0 and 20, 10 and 30, 20 and 40, 30 and 50 etc. But old is old I guess. thoughts?

you know...id say there totally is a difference between the "old" stages.
i know id be pissed if i were 70 and somebody said that, i just know! im 70, not 90!

you start seeing less of what you saw more of in earlier ages, not saying its a bad thing. its so much more than that. God knows.

[b i o n i c]

the worst thing has to be is if you live to be old enough to scare small children.

sucks to be old and scare babies with your face

im gonna be scared of babies when im old and senile(y) little shits.


ps: note to self: if you want to get zippo to come out and play, make a thread about age

[Helvete]

I'm young and old at the same time. Depends who I am around. I am actually young, but younger people make me feel oldish. But then I realise that is silly because I'm not even 24! Then I punch the shit out of the young people and that makes me feel good. Until the young people can punch the shit out of me, I'll be young.

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm starting to feel old because I value a good night's sleep over staying out late. I used to feel like I had to be up as late as possible and go out all the time or I'd miss something. I don't have that feeling anymore. I might miss somethings, but oh well.


as for the 90's coming back with the kids...I think it's inevitable, but it's also different because my generation (and a little bit older folks) invented grunge. sure, we borrowed from the 60's and 70's, but there was a distinct effort to wear colors and styles of clothing that went against the neon excess of the 80's. you had to get your plaid shirts at the thrift store or from your dad, you couldn't just buy them at Forever 21.

now the kids are just choosing a genre and wearing what they can buy (for the most part), not making up their own styles.



I went to an all ages show last weekend and saw some college kids that looked like they stepped out of 1997. it was really freaky. one was wearing a dr. seuss hat with smilie faces on it for god's sake. I just kept wondering how they even learned how to dress like that. older siblings? 90's movies? :(

[Nuzzolese]

the 90s are seriously coming back already?! It's too soon!

[Dorothy Wood]

last week, I overheard one of my 14 year old students ask another one if she wanted to go to a rave. and they listen to Korn.

it's here, it's queer, you better get used to it.

[Adam]

I've just seen some1 on roller blades.

[jennyb]

I've had lower back pain for over a week now.... yeah... it's not goin away.

[Nuzzolese]

last week, I overheard one of my 14 year old students ask another one if she wanted to go to a rave. and they listen to Korn.

it's here, it's queer, you better get used to it.

Since when did you get students? What do you teach?

[Knuckles]

Since when did you get students? What do you teach?

I was wondering the same thing.

An art class perhaps?

[mate_spawn_die]

Bluebird, flying high
Tell me what you sing
If you could talk to me
What news would you bring
Of voices in the sky

Nightingale, hovering high
Harmonize the wind
Darkness, your symphony
I can hear you sing
Of voices in the sky

Just what is happening to me
I lie awake with the sound of the sea
Calling to me

Old man, passing by
Tell me what you sing
Though your voice be faint
I am listening
Voices in the sky

Children with a skipping rope
Tell me what you sing
Play time is nearly gone
The bells about to ring
Voices in the sky

Just what is happening to me
I lie awake with the sound of the sea
Calling to me

Bluebird, flying high
Tell me what you sing
If you could talk to me
What news would you bring
Of voices in the sky
Voices in the sky

[Dorothy Wood]

I was wondering the same thing.

An art class perhaps?


I teach a hip hop dance class. my favorite thing to teach is that snakey thing on the floor move.

[Nuzzolese]

I teach a hip hop dance class. my favorite thing to teach is that snakey thing on the floor move.

SHENANIGANS

[Helvete]

I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans.

[paul jones]

I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans.

I thought you had a tank?