Reunion?

[funkdoc2005]

I've been on this forum a while and I don't know if it has been discussed but I was wondering have there ever been any talks in the past couple of years of the Beastie Boys working again with a certain producer. It wouldn't have to be a whole album but how bout one or two songs. I never hear anybody ask them during interviews about it. I think it would be the biggest music news in a long time if it happened and I think its something the world has been waiting on for 23 years.

[Rodie]

The only thing I ever saw was an interview from TT5B (I think it was the one on this site actually) where Yauch said something to the effect of "I'm sure we'll work with him again in the future." So who knows?

[Odie]

I think Rodie means Rick Rubin not Mario C.

[b i o n i c]

the best (and smartest) thing ever would be an album produced by different producers

except, it doesnt get any cheaper/more convenient/stress-free than self-produced at your own studio, so maybe not

couple songs by mario c
couple songs by rr
and so on

[Brother McDuff]

the best (and smartest) thing ever would be an album produced by different producers

except, it doesnt get any cheaper/more convenient/stress-free than self-produced at your own studio, so maybe not

couple songs by mario c
couple songs by rr
and so on

eh. it looks good on paper, but in reality i think such an approach would really spoil a record's continuity. bboys albums are whole pieces of work by nature. multiple producers and sounds would most likely sound like a cluster-fuck, much like most commercial rap records these days. a buncha random songs that don't sound like they belong next to one another. lack of balance.

however, considering the amount of production work the beasties do themselves even when collaborating with producers, perhaps they themselves could bridge the gaps between styles on such an endeavor. who knows...

[Kid Presentable]

Does anybody give a shit anymore?

[camo]

I do. Mario brings intricate layers to the game.

[Kid Presentable]

Nothing they ever do will live up to the hyperbolic expectations around them. No matter who's involved.

[funkdoc2005]

I figure looking at all the people Rick has worked with over the years, does he ever get an inkling to work with them again. I don't know how the Beasties feel right now because besides Mario they've really have handled the production themselves. But I've always wondered with how creative all 3 of them have become combined with Rubin's input what an album of that would sound like.

[Brother McDuff]

Honestly, I don't think Rick Rubin could really take them in any exciting directions. His whole steez is the "stripped down" production, while the beastie work heavily with textures. Maybe if they were doing a rock record, or punk record. Hip-hopwise though, I think the average bboy fan would be underwhelmed with anything he has to offer. Sure, he'd get good performances out of them, and a great mix, but I think he'd stifle a little.


I do. Mario brings intricate layers to the game.


amen to that. if there was anyone who could usher them into a new renaissance it would be Mario. Even the Dust Bros. too. Not on the sampling tip again though. They've come a long way since PB and have a lot more to offer now.

[Rodie]

I think Rodie means Rick Rubin not Mario C.

I definitely meant Mario C. I doubt they'll ever work with Rubin again.

[beastieboysbaby]

MARIO C BABY, MARIO C.


that's all i have to say.

[Micodin]

the best (and smartest) thing ever would be an album produced by different producers

If you add the Beastie Boys and a a bunch of dope producers on one album you will get the equivalent of Run-DMC's Crown Royal. A steaming pile of dog shit.

Too many cooks in the kitchen.

[Rodie]

If you add the Beastie Boys and a a bunch of dope producers on one album you will get the equivalent of Run-DMC's Crown Royal. A steaming pile of dog shit.

Too many cooks in the kitchen.

Yeah save multiple producers for a remix album, but I think they've done just fine with the "one producer per album" routine.

[mathcart]

So I'll start off by saying I know its none of my business but ...

I feel like as a fairly obsessive bboy fan who mops up just about every spare tidbit of info out there I don't feel like I've ever gotten a proper explanation for the split of Mario C from the bboy camp. Look I'm not saying I'm entitled to know because I been a fan for so long or even that their is any story here other than the boys wanting to take more ownership of their sound. Or Mario wanting to move on, whatever, I just mean I find it very confusing that such an epic collaboration was just dissolved with no explination or fanfare. While strictly speaking its not exactly the same, but the Beatles were very happy to work with George Martin time and again. Just something to be said for keeping intact highly successful collaborations.

Guess I just miss my friend...

[Rodie]

I don't think there's really a story... I mean they didn't really start getting serious about TT5B until sometime 2002... That's four years past Hello Nasty, as such I'm sure Mario C had moved on so they probably just decided to produce it themselves which they'd never done. I've never seen anything to suggest that there was bad blood between them.

[3stooges]

I never thought Mario's role was really that big. I always thought the boys did the majority of the production themselves, post PB, except for heavy influence from money mark on CYH. the bottom line is, they can do it themselves, they don't need someone else. and let's not forget, they don't want to pay someone else. I get the impression they'll hire people that will do what they want them to do, but they don't want anyone else creating the music or taking major points.

Not that it would be a bad thing creatively, to have someone else adding on ideas. I just doubt they're really into that any more. You get used to controlling how your thing goes, especially when you've been at it as long as they have. You know what you like, and you don't need anyone else to tell you what you should do. At least that's how you feel.

[smith7800]

Nothing they ever do will live up to the hyperbolic expectations around them. No matter who's involved.
In my experience, they skirt the expectations by coming out with something completely, well, unexpected.

[Brother McDuff]

I never thought Mario's role was really that big. I always thought the boys did the majority of the production themselves, post PB, except for heavy influence from money mark on CYH. the bottom line is, they can do it themselves, they don't need someone else. and let's not forget, they don't want to pay someone else. I get the impression they'll hire people that will do what they want them to do, but they don't want anyone else creating the music or taking major points.

Not that it would be a bad thing creatively, to have someone else adding on ideas. I just doubt they're really into that any more. You get used to controlling how your thing goes, especially when you've been at it as long as they have. You know what you like, and you don't need anyone else to tell you what you should do. At least that's how you feel.





a few thoughts....

a) a producer is very important. an outside ear, from beyond the brainstem of the core is invaluable in that they offer the artist(s) an unbiased opinion. A trusted, unbiased opinion. Not to mention a wealth of universal knowledge and experience (good producers, that is).

b) Mario was a critical piece of the beastie puzzle. It's not coincidence that he was involved with four out of their five strongest efforts. Self-producing has always been a thorn in the side of many accomplished musicians. The sole benefit of production is an outsider's perspective (I feel). While I don't think the Beasties' reasons for dropping him had to do with financial sharings, it is a shame they separated from their most beloved collaborator.

c) In reality, though, the decision garners much applaud, I think, because it signifies an attempt to take it to the next level and challenge themselves. The pairing of beastie boys and mario c was obviously a sure shot, 3 blockbuster albums chalked up, so what next? Up the ante and try and do it themselves, right?

d) Lastly, the break-up, from what I've gathered along the way, was something of a controversy within the camp. A private one, to say the least, but to avoid sounding gossipy, word on the street is that it was over some personal issues.

epilogue:

I've said it before, and I'm about to say it again.....Mario mentioned in a wonderful, thorough interview a few years back, that he feels that he and the bboys still hadn't reached the plateau that he felt the partnership was capable of. A loaded statement, I know, and one that will make fans of Mario's ponder the possibilities for a lifetime.

[stoffel79]

http://marioc.com/