Obama's First 100 Days

[yeahwho]

The Los Angeles Times (http://projects.latimes.com/obama-100-days/)has done an "over the top" great job on evaluating President Barack Obama's first 100 days. There is a lot to read, listen and watch on their website.

The one statistic that bodes well is that at the end of 2008 Americans were ask if they felt America was on the right track for solving it's problems, at that time only 10% would.

Today after 100 days of Obama 39% agree we're on the right track to solve our problems.

My personal grade is I give him a B-. In the face of much unfounded criticism from some real whack jobs, he's proven he can navigate the pitfalls and still come out and keep his head held high. I'm glad I voted for the man.

[RobMoney$]

Ok, we're all aware that you're a supporter of him.

But you gave him a B-
I'm interested why.
Let's hear the reason you didn't give him an A+. I've heard the cheerleading ad nauseam, this is a good opportunity to get a little more real and offer the criticizms you have of your candidate.

[yeahwho]

I supported his candidacy for POTUS. I am not a rabid supporter of him today (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=90841), that would be a stereotype your trying to put upon me.

I did not give him an A+ because of his initial unwillingness to let justice do it's job on our past presidents torture, interrogation tactics. The thing about this (he has since changed his stance (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a7vk3hK9A0vY&refer=us), which is an admirable quality in this case) that struck me as odd, it made no sense in the fact that it's international law that ultimately will decide.

He also has done a 180 on warrentless wiretapping, that pretty much keeps him out of the A category until he comes back to his original campaign rhetoric.

I gave him a B+ because he is giving his all, he admits to mistakes and tries to rapidly resolve issues so all sides can benefit. He has a willingness to go around the World and meet with people Bush fucking pissed off for eight years and put on a good face for our Country. Everyday I read something he is working on, all of this while also keeping his family as normal as can be, which to me is a sign of a very good family man.

He's doing a fine job, much better than I had hoped for when I voted for him and that is more that anybody could ask for. B-.

[King PSYZ]

Ok, we're all aware that you're a supporter of him.

But you gave him a B-
I'm interested why.
Let's hear the reason you didn't give him an A+. I've heard the cheerleading ad nauseam, this is a good opportunity to get a little more real and offer the criticizms you have of your candidate.

point of clarification, he's no longer a canidate, he's the President of the United States now.

he's also not the "one", or a messiah, or anything other than a person.

I hate the reversal on the wiretapping situation, is it possible both he and Bush are privy to info detailing why it needs to stand for now? Possibly but it doesn't make anyone feel better about it and probablly shouldn't have become policy in the first place.

I don't like the idea that officials who broke US and International law are going to walk scott free on torture.

But in just a hundred days a lot has been accomplished, more than some thought would happen in the first year. But there's still roughly 1360 days left so time is on his side... for now.

Considering the burning pile of rubble he walked into he's doing a pretty decent job. Any President walking into a global economic meltdown, two unwinnable wars, government spending gone wild, and public trust of government at all time lows would have a pretty rough go of things.

Imagine had he walked into a budget surplus...

[NoFenders]

Will we celebrate every 100 days?

[King PSYZ]

I sure as shit hope not, I dodn't even know why the media felt it needed. Isn't there far more than enough real news to cover out there?

[yeahwho]

Will we celebrate every 100 days?
This is not a celebration, it is a traditional look that mainstream journalism has been doing with Presidents of the United States for the over a Century, they examine their first 100 days and then write up a summary.

If you would like to enlighten us with your viewpoint, please do. I'm pretty sure the general snide replies you come up with when it's anything concerning Obama means you must have some insight and feelings about his performance, we all would like to hear what is behind the offensiveness of your stance.

[NoFenders]

Better question.

Will you celebrate every 100 days YeahWho?

[yeahwho]

I celebrate everyday

[NoFenders]

That's good!!! You should!!! No matter who or what is in office, we should all celebrate our freedom every day.

Life's way too short to do anything but.

Sorry for calling you a dick nip. I've been enlightened to a higher reason for breathin.

Just enjoy. (y)

[yeahwho]

Ok, we're all aware that you're a supporter of him.

But you gave him a B-
I'm interested why.
Let's hear the reason you didn't give him an A+. I've heard the cheerleading ad nauseam, this is a good opportunity to get a little more real and offer the criticizms you have of your candidate.

Will we celebrate every 100 days?

What I do not understand about either of your guys response is why your so concerned about my response. Who the fuck cares what I have to say, what is really important is your response. Everybody and their brothers and sisters have a differing opinion (http://news.google.com/news?ei=s_TwScaLGoeGtgPxkrTmCg&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=obama%27s%20first%20100%20days&resnum=0&sa=N&tab=wn&um=1).

I know you must have some opinions or shaped up a profile of some sort on the Obama presidency and what he has done in his first 100 days. Why not spout out about it?

[NoFenders]

I don't care yeahwho. really, I don't.

Now drink!

[RobMoney$]

You're suprised that I'm interested in your opinion?
I'm not even sure what to say to that.

Why post here if you're not interestd in interacting with the people here?

We spent the months leading up to the election at each others throats over Obama v. McCain. and you now make a thread suggesting that you aren't completely satisfied with him.
I would think it completely appropiate and for you to almost expect me to question your reasoning for a grade of B-.

[checkyourprez]

You're suprised that I'm interested in your opinion?
I'm not even sure what to say to that.

Why post here if you're not interestd in interacting with the people here?

We spent the months leading up to the election at each others throats over Obama v. McCain. and you now make a thread suggesting that you aren't completely satisfied with him.
I would think it completely appropiate and for you to almost expect me to question your reasoning for a grade of B-.

what grade would you give him mr.money?

[yeahwho]

I am equally interested in the political machinations of both republicans and democrats. I have an interest and fascination with independent candidates. The process of doing an evaluation is old school journalism and a great way to not only sell newspapers but also remind people of a time-line of events happening within their very own lives.

I am just going to put words in both NoFenders and Robmoney's mouths and say they both are extremely pleased with Obama and just like me they grade him B-.

[NoFenders]

He does have nice shoes.

[checkyourprez]

thats worth a B-at least .

[RobMoney$]

I will say this, he's exceeded my expectations.
I think he's a bit too wishy-washy, trying to appease both sides all the time, but maybe that's not as bad as the other extreme we just got rid of in Bush, an administration that was unwilling to be flexible on anything.

I'm also glad that some of the concerns I had about him have so far not been an issue.

I think B- is an appropiate grade.

[yeahwho]

I think B- is an appropiate grade.

With the dynamic of Bush, debt beyond anything imaginable, two wars, the incredibly insane red vs. blue mentality perpetuated by mainstream media and an environmental quagmire on the horizon.... B- is an appropriate grade. I think he has a very realistic grasp on his place in history and will not become as entangled in Washington politics as the past 4 administrations have, plus he also knows the pitfalls of being too much of a populist like Carter.

Just as the campaign was run I expect his administration will be run like a tightly tuned machine. All aspects of every decision will be examined, re-examined and then put out for citizens consumption.

It's not my favorite type of leadership, there is a bit of a machine feel to his style, the "No Drama Obama" feel I guess, but part of the way he's run things so far forces him to be much more open than Bush and to some extent Clinton, who I still think had a much more genuine interaction with citizens.

Plus I like the way this administration is not top heavy. Rahm Emanuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel) will never be compared to Karl Rove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove) and Biden is a distant shadow as he should be as opposed to Cheney who was just plain fucking scary.

The actual administration seems much more conscientious of their place and roles of the current administration. The Bush administration was like a corporate mobster raiding through the planet for eight long
years while we went broke Oil Companies posted record profits, year after fucking year.

[monkey]

i dont really want to get into the obama's 100 days debate, i just wanted to clarify something -

the 100 days thing began with FDR, when he met with congress during his first 100 days to get his New Deal plans passed and the US out of the Great Depression. His 100 days plans became a measure of what other presidents could or should do in their first 100 days. The media uses the 100 days mark a bit as hype, but it's unfair to just put all the blame on the media. Historians use the 100 days mark to show how presidents get things done while the public and congress still likes them.

[yeahwho]

i dont really want to get into the obama's 100 days debate, i just wanted to clarify something -

the 100 days thing began with FDR, when he met with congress during his first 100 days to get his New Deal plans passed and the US out of the Great Depression. His 100 days plans became a measure of what other presidents could or should do in their first 100 days. The media uses the 100 days mark a bit as hype, but it's unfair to just put all the blame on the media. Historians use the 100 days mark to show how presidents get things done while the public and congress still likes them.

I sort of wish I never started this thread at all. Using the 100 days as a barometer or yardstick was a huge mistake and to me has become a joke (deservedly so). With moronic news programs like Olbeman, Beck, O'Reilly and doubly unoriginal shows like Stewart and Colbert perpetuating responses and parody to every minute media story the whole fucking planet has become a loop of nonsense on mainstream TV.

I just want to tell all these unoriginal media asshats to fucking SHUT UP! Quit with the pompous ass bullshit and actually give away some of your own and your networks money to starving families in Somalia or somewhere. SHUT UP and do something.

[kaiser soze]

I cannot say that I am 100% impressed but I do believe President Obama is faced with some seriously pressing issues so it is understandable that changes or improvements just won't happen overnight.

[saz]

I think he has a very realistic grasp on his place in history and will not become as entangled in Washington politics as the past 4 administrations have, plus he also knows the pitfalls of being too much of a populist like Carter.

But now, populism isn't just popular in America; it is becoming the dominant paradigm, and that has the Establishment frightened.

For years, the country watched its populist desire for health care, tax, trade and financial reform run into the reality of elite politicians handing out trillions of dollars worth of corporate welfare and bank bailouts as the economy collapsed. Not surprisingly, a new Rasmussen poll on attitudes toward government and corporations shows 75 percent of the country "can be classified on the populist or Mainstream side of the divide" while just 14 percent "side with the political class."

Newsflash: Populism Is Popular (http://www.alternet.org/story/138108/newsflash%3A_populism_is_popular/)


With moronic news programs like Olbeman,

nah (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1665149&postcount=18).

[yeahwho]

Well this was fun, maybe we'll do this again in late April of 2013 (http://www.palinaspresident.us/).