On Snap : California Voters vote down taxes!

[valvano]

http://cbs2.com/local/Propositions.Results.Special.2.1013947.html

Politicians are forced to do what the rest of us have been doing since the economic hit the crapper...cut back spending...(y)

[YoungRemy]

Governator FAIL

The results for the ballot propositions mark a new low for the Republican governor, who struggled to live up to a campaign pledge to restore fiscal stability to the most populous state in the nation.

Tuesday's results echoed Schwarzenegger's special election four years ago, when voters rejected all four of the measures he described as government reforms.

Sentiment at polling stations throughout the state reflected a mix of anger toward politicians and resignation that the state would continue to face financial turmoil no matter the outcome of Tuesday's vote.


this was my favorite part... Keep the cronies from padding their pockets

Voters approved just one of the six propositions, a measure prohibiting pay raises for lawmakers and other state elected officials during deficit years.

thanks for sharing valvano!

[Echewta]

Poor Gov. Davis, I mean Arnold. :(

I didn't even know I was suppose to vote. Oppss.

Sales tax has already been raised in L.A. County. Arnolds already not raised taxes but raised "fees." Keeping his promise...

[NoFenders]

We all know what his plan is, and it's ridiculous. I swear, these people in these seats are just as dumb as the people who voted them in.

[jennyb]

The 10% sales tax is quite painful. I hope I get a fuckin subway line to West LA outta this. Pronto!

[YoungRemy]

The 10% sales tax is quite painful. I hope I get a fuckin subway line to West LA outta this. Pronto!

http://www.buildexpo.org/

Phase 1- next summer- to Culver City

phase 2- to Santa Monica, who knows?

[saz]

the irony of this thread is astounding.

governor scharzenegger is a republican, and what he proposed was a very practical and pragmatic approach to solving the california budget deficit, through tax increases and spending cuts. tax increases and spending cuts might be tough for people to accept, but it's a reality on the road to fiscal responsibility and balancing a massive budget, such as the state of california has. it's amazing though that such a staunch conservative such as valvano would be chearing and rooting against the call of fiscal responsibility from a republican governor. scharzenegger is probably not only the last voice of reason in the republican party, but also a very practical and pragmatic politician who won over both many progressives and republicans in his re-election. he's the kind of individual who represented a great future for the party, who is a unifying voice and is very innovative by leading the charge with his emission standards. but of course the extreme right which has taken over the gop, has no time for words or concepts such as practicality, pragmatism, sensibility, and moderation. so no wonder why arnie considered jumping ship (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-23/arnold-considered-party-switch).

[valvano]

the irony of this thread is astounding.

governor scharzenegger is a republican, and what he proposed was a very practical and pragmatic approach to solving the california budget deficit, through tax increases and spending cuts. tax increases and spending cuts might be tough for people to accept, but it's a reality on the road to fiscal responsibility and balancing a massive budget, such as the state of california has. it's amazing though that such a staunch conservative such as valvano would be chearing and rooting against the call of fiscal responsibility from a republican governor. scharzenegger is probably not only the last voice of reason in the republican party, but also a very practical and pragmatic politician who won over both many progressives and republicans in his re-election. he's the kind of individual who represented a great future for the party, who is a unifying voice and is very innovative by leading the charge with his emission standards. but of course the extreme right which has taken over the gop, has no time for words or concepts such as practicality, pragmatism, sensibility, and moderation. so no wonder why arnie considered jumping ship (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-23/arnold-considered-party-switch).

never met a tax that you didnt think needed to be raised i bet....so i assume you live by your own words and mail extra in to the IRS every year (assuming you even have a job?)

[saz]

well, if you're a fiscal conservative and want a balanced budget, then sometimes yes, unfortunately you will have to cut spending and raise taxes. no one likes spending cuts or higher taxes, but those are tough decisions politicians have to make sometimes. even reagan raised taxes. do you hate him too? i have no problem paying taxes, which provides essential revenue to support the military, police and fire services, our health care system and social programs, to maintain roads, bridges highways etc. and yes i have a job. anyways, you're attempting though to change or avoid the topic at hand by getting personal with your juvenile attitude, an indicator that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute except your own pettiness and shallowness.

[RobMoney$]

You gotta love people who claim to be "socially liberal", but "fiscally conservative".


In other words they want everything, but they don't want to pay for it.

[Burnout18]

You gotta love people who claim to be "socially liberal", but "fiscally conservative".


In other words they want everything, but they don't want to pay for it.

yea but shit like gay marriage doesn't cost anything,,, and weed could be taxed and shit like that....

[RobMoney$]

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[Documad]

You gotta love people who claim to be "socially liberal", but "fiscally conservative".


In other words they want everything, but they don't want to pay for it.
That's how I've always described myself. When I say "socially liberal," I mean that I want the government to stay out of my personal business. It means that I am pro-choice, I want employers to be prohibited from discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation, I value free speech, I want the government to keep religion out of public schools, etc. The fiscally conservative part is why I want the government to manage things better. I want a balanced budget. That means cuts to programs and taxes at a reasonable level to pay for things like two foreign wars. Everyone has to work unless they have a really really good reason not to, etc.

[valvano]

That's how I've always described myself. When I say "socially liberal," I mean that I want the government to stay out of my personal business. It means that I am pro-choice, I want employers to be prohibited from discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation, I value free speech, I want the government to keep religion out of public schools, etc.


So do you want the govt to stay out of your personal business, but you want the govt to force you to accept a lifestyle that you may morally be opposed to? sound to me you want the govt to dictate that you accept others that you may be morally opposed to.....i guess you also employers to prohibited from discrimnating against drug users, or criminals, or child molestors? after all, those are also lifestyles that people my find to be morally wrong...

:rolleyes:

[Documad]

I would likely legalize at least some drugs and prostitution.

The rest of your statement is just silly. Of course nonconsensual sexual acts should be illegal because that interferes with the rights of the victims. So rape of children would still be illegal. I don't have any time for someone who equates consensual sexual relations between adults with the rape of children.

[Knuckles]

I don't have any time for someone who equates consensual sexual relations between adults with the rape of children.

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[saz]

You gotta love people who claim to be "socially liberal", but "fiscally conservative".


In other words they want everything, but they don't want to pay for it.

no rob. up here, conservative, centrist and socialist governments have been capable of balancing budgets and being fiscally responsible.

[Documad]

no rob. up here, conservative, centrist and socialist governments have been capable of balancing budgets and being fiscally responsible.

Up here as well. It helps that we're required to balance our budget by law.

[yeahwho]

Looks like the Californians aren't getting any tax revenue from selling same sex (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/26/BAT817R2QD.DTL)marriage licenses anytime soon.

[kaiser soze]

oh snap!

Looks like Arnold's Come to California commercials will be more like Don't Bother Coming to California with proposals to close state parks in response to tax stump. College grants and welfare to take a hit too.

A conservatives wet dream - privatized parks (either sold to industry or left to rot), inaccessibility to education, and obviously the poor taking a harder hit (add the newly unemployed middle class as well....they suck too right valvano?)

America fuck yeah

http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_12454979?nclick_check=1

Faced with a ballooning deficit and a clear signal that voters won't pay more to fix it, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger released a budget plan Tuesday that would eliminate welfare, drop 1 million poor children from health insurance, cut off new grants for college students and shut down 80 percent of state parks.