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TurdBerglar
05-31-2009, 01:23 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- Ozzy Osbourne has accused former Black Sabbath band mate Tony Iommi of taking over the heavy metal titans' name and costing him royalties from merchandise sales.

Osbourne, who sued the guitarist earlier this week, issued a statement Friday imploring him to "do the right thing."

"Tony, I am so sorry it's had to get to this point by me having to take this action against you," the singer-turned-reality show star said.

But, he added, "we've all worked too hard and long in our careers to allow you to sell merchandise that features all our faces, old Black Sabbath album covers and band logos, and then you tell us that you own the copyright."

Osbourne, who lives in California, filed suit Tuesday in a federal court in New York, saying Iommi falsely claimed to have sole rights to Black Sabbath's trademark in negotiations over the last year with a company that sells the band's merchandise. As a result, the lawsuit says, Osbourne has lost royalties formerly split 50/50.

Iommi's representative and lawyers who have represented him didn't immediately respond to telephone and e-mail messages late Friday.

Osbourne's lawsuit reads at times like liner notes to a greatest-hits album, describing the case as "a dispute concerning one of the most famous and valuable names in the history of rock and roll."

The band, known for its apocalyptic bent and such hits as "Iron Man" and "Paranoid," has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It made a star — and a spectacle — of Osbourne and his from-the-crypt howl before he was fired in 1979.

"To fans of heavy metal music," Osbourne's lawsuit says, "Ozzy has become synonymous with Black Sabbath."

But Iommi, considered one of heavy metal's guitar greats, noted in a separate lawsuit filed against the merchandise firm in December that he has been the only constant member in the English band's 41-year history. Court records show that lawsuit, which doesn't involve Osbourne, was settled Wednesday on undisclosed terms.

Iommi, who registered the Black Sabbath trademark in the U.S. in 2000, also said in the lawsuit that co-founders Osbourne, bassist Geezer Butler and drummer Bill Ward legally relinquished rights to the band's name in the 1980s.

Osbourne's lawyer disputed that in a January letter included with his lawsuit, saying that even if the singer did make such an agreement he took a major role in the band's direction and success after rejoining it in 1997.

Osbourne, who in recent years has appeared as the paterfamilias of an erratic clan on MTV's "The Osbournes," said in Friday's statement that he believes all four original members should share Black Sabbath's name equally



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paul jones
05-31-2009, 04:50 PM
What do these old rock stars do all day?

Ozzy should count his chickens he's still on this mortal coil and enjoy the rest of his time instead of suing Tommiommiommioommi

Tzar
05-31-2009, 11:17 PM
...but black sabbath is Iommi's toy. he's always been the head of the bunch. sure, Ozzy is synonymous with black sabbath but black sabbath is synonymous with Iommi.

this is all SHARON!'s doing no doubt. she's telling Ozzy to do this.

TurdBerglar
05-31-2009, 11:33 PM
all ozzy did in sabbath was sing

he didn't write shit

RobMoney$
05-31-2009, 11:37 PM
I dunno.
I think Ozzy, Geezer, & Bill Ward have a legit claim to receive some portion of Sabbath merchandise money.

Tzar
05-31-2009, 11:42 PM
^ definately. i do agree that all the royalties of their first 3 or 4 or whatever albums should be split equally; the albums with ozzy anyway.

Guy Incognito
06-01-2009, 02:58 AM
all ozzy did in sabbath was sing

he didn't write shit

well thats a bit harsh, its like saying all joe montana did was throw the ball, ayrton senna just drove or ronaldo just takes free kicks or some other sports related comparison. I know they have used loads of different people but is voice is synonomous(sp?) with that band.
However, i dont think the osbournes are short of a few bob so i reckon its a bit cheeky but what if it was some randommer who had registered the trademark, they'd do the same thing.

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 07:42 AM
he really didn't do much

Guy Incognito
06-01-2009, 09:52 AM
he really didn't do much

i didnt realise you were a heavy metal acts performance monitoring analyst?

jus sayin that he is a big part of black sabbath - i dont agree with him doing what he's doing but i can see his point, he was a big part of that band and two old fuckers arguing the toss on who did the most is a bit spinal tap and is a bit sad.

Echewta
06-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Doesn't matter if they cured cancer. If they signed over the rights or whatever the contacts say, goes.

Guy Incognito
06-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Doesn't matter if they cured cancer. If they signed over the rights or whatever the contacts say, goes.

apparently he signed the rights over in the 80's, i'm no expert but i am guessing that anything osbourne did in the 1980's he could barely remember cos he was still coming down for the 70's!

its just sad that its turned out like this, its sad that they are bickering over this, sad that iommi never thought to include everybody, sad they had differences in the first place. i dont know the right answer or who is in the right but it just seems like two old men fighting over money when they dont need to

hpdrifter
06-01-2009, 01:58 PM
two old fuckers arguing the toss on who did the most is a bit spinal tap and is a bit sad.

what he said

Guy Incognito
06-01-2009, 02:22 PM
what he said

oh yeah:o, well the more i have thought about this news then the more it pisses me off, its not what rock n roll is about for me.

Echewta
06-01-2009, 06:23 PM
Welcome to the recording industry. There are much sadder stories than this about people signing their rights away, i.e. the blues, the birth of rock and roll and blacks who got squat.

Copyrights, publishing rights, merchandising rights, etc., make it all complicated. A smart person can easily take advanatage of those who aren't in the know.

I bet you Ozzy had some legal representation in the 80s. Don't feel too bad for him. Especially since he lives in a killer house, had a succesful recording career afterwards.

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 06:35 PM
i didnt realise you were a heavy metal acts performance monitoring analyst?

jus sayin that he is a big part of black sabbath - i dont agree with him doing what he's doing but i can see his point, he was a big part of that band and two old fuckers arguing the toss on who did the most is a bit spinal tap and is a bit sad.

all he did was sing

hpdrifter
06-01-2009, 07:01 PM
Quick question (and I'm not trying to be a smartass here), I honestly what to know.

So do you think that Black Sabbath would have been the same band with Toni Iommi and a different singer?

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 07:07 PM
no?

but i don't think it would have been all that much different

Kid Presentable
06-01-2009, 07:16 PM
The Dio era disagrees.

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 07:17 PM
because dio actually wrote shit

RobMoney$
06-01-2009, 07:52 PM
Hey man, if Turd says Iommi deserves all Black Sabbath revenues, who the hell are we to argue?

We all should start showing Iommi some more respect.

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 08:31 PM
when did i say he deserves everything


all i said was that ozzy didn't do much

RobMoney$
06-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Check out this video of Iommi playing with Jethro Tull in the Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaxymPkC6SA&feature=related)

TurdBerglar
06-01-2009, 09:35 PM
they're not playing


they're miming in that. only the singer is live.

Guy Incognito
06-02-2009, 03:05 AM
Welcome to the recording industry. There are much sadder stories than this about people signing their rights away, i.e. the blues, the birth of rock and roll and blacks who got squat.

Copyrights, publishing rights, merchandising rights, etc., make it all complicated. A smart person can easily take advanatage of those who aren't in the know.

I bet you Ozzy had some legal representation in the 80s. Don't feel too bad for him. Especially since he lives in a killer house, had a succesful recording career afterwards.

i dont feel sorry for him, its just sad how things turn out, they were just mates who had a great band and it'd be nice to think they would all let things slide and realise that they made it thru the other side and all were doing all right. I know there are worse stories around about the recording industry, it just seems to me that, if everyone were adult about it, this one could be settled over a pint and not in the courts

paul jones
06-02-2009, 03:05 AM
Check out this video of Iommi playing with Jethro Tull in the Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaxymPkC6SA&feature=related)

now there's a man dying for a piss. He should have gone before he went to sing a play that flute