Global Warming

[roosta]

I dunno if there's a thread like this else where, but here goes.

What's your take on it?

Is it caused by man?
If so, are you worried?
You doing your part?

I've come to the conclusion that its real. The overwhelming amount of scientists (the men and women responsible for doing all the other wacky stuff that makes our lives the way they are)believe it and are warning.

I'm doing my best to reduce my own pollution, and i'm voting Green. I dunno, some of the stuff I read however is quite scary and I just don't think the world is gonna get its act together quick enough.

Anyone else got an opinion?

[HAL 9000]

As you say, the overwhelming opinion of the scientific community is that Co2 contributes to global warming.

I think the problem is, because climates are chaotic and complicated systems, we cant really tell exactly what effect we are having now and exactly what effect any of our green counter measures will have.

How bad will things get if we do nothing? How much will things improve if we spend half our GDP on CO2 control? We just have no idea and this is a problem.

[NoFenders]

What's your take on it?

Is it caused by man?
If so, are you worried?
You doing your part?



What's my take?
I believe in climate change, but not Global Warming in the sky is falling way. Yes, the earth is changing, and as a matter of fact, where I'm sitting right now was covered in ice three times. It was a mile over my head. The entire earth has been through many many changes through it's life. So what guy with a Hemi, a smoke, and can of hair spry caused those??

Is it caused by man?? No. Man can be a factor, but to say man caused this, just doesn't add up with what we know, and don't know about our earth's history. Certainly man can add to the problems, but man didn't create climat change.

Am I worried?
No. I don't worry about the things I can't control. Life's too short for panic like that.

Am I doing my part?
Yeah. I think everyone is. I never was a litter bug before. I recycle when I can. I don't go ape shit over plastic bottles though. I save energy.

There's certainly a lot we can do to keep our earth preserved for as long as possible. I think a lot of panic has been created for political agendas and overall greed. On that same token, I think we need to do what we can, and nothing more should be asked of us. Somebody wants to save the world, go for it! I just hope they don't get upset when they find out mother nature does what mother nature wants.

We can all do something, and that should make evreything a little better while we still have the privelage of living here.

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm not scared. It makes me sad that polar bears are dying though. :( I'm doing my part by not having a car.


I think we're polluting the planet and we've contributed to climate change with all our gases and what not, but I also think that the earth and humans will adapt. I'm not opposed to building a floating island out of trash to live on. if that doesn't work, oh well. earth'll just die I guess. and I'll be chillaxin in a space pod or some shit.

[NoFenders]

I'm doing my part by not having a car.


So you never plan on owning a car?

[HAL 9000]

What's my take?
I believe in climate change, but not Global Warming in the sky is falling way. Yes, the earth is changing, and as a matter of fact, where I'm sitting right now was covered in ice three times. It was a mile over my head. The entire earth has been through many many changes through it's life. So what guy with a Hemi, a smoke, and can of hair spry caused those??

Is it caused by man?? No. Man can be a factor, but to say man caused this, just doesn't add up with what we know, and don't know about our earth's history. Certainly man can add to the problems, but man didn't create climat change.

Am I worried?
No. I don't worry about the things I can't control. Life's too short for panic like that.

Am I doing my part?
Yeah. I think everyone is. I never was a litter bug before. I recycle when I can. I don't go ape shit over plastic bottles though. I save energy.

There's certainly a lot we can do to keep our earth preserved for as long as possible. I think a lot of panic has been created for political agendas and overall greed. On that same token, I think we need to do what we can, and nothing more should be asked of us. Somebody wants to save the world, go for it! I just hope they don't get upset when they find out mother nature does what mother nature wants.

We can all do something, and that should make evreything a little better while we still have the privelage of living here.


I don't think anyone is suggesting that climate change is only caused by man or was invented by man.


We know that climates are chaotic systems and are impacted by thousands of different variables all pulling in different directions at the same time. Sometimes the net effect is up and sometimes down.


But we do know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we do know we are putting a lot more back into the air than there would be if we were not here. So we are exerting an upward pressure on world temperatures. And world temperatures are going up.


How much of that rise is because of us? 5%? 50%?, 150%? (After all the world might naturally be getting colder if not for us) – I don't know.


I am hopeful that economic pressures will save us. Some stunning advances were made in alternative energy resources in the last few years while oil prices were high. So I am not too worried, the more we use fossil fuels, the more they cost and the more incentive there is to develop alternatives. Fuel costs are already having a bigger impact on peoples energy usage than any green publicity campaign ever could.


In fact, if governments really did want to reduce CO2 emissions – a huge carbon tax is probably a pretty efficient way of doing it. Hopefully, good old supply and demand will make that unnecessary anyway.

[yeahwho]

When ever I hear folks spout out generalizations about how the earth has had these fluctuations in the past, or perhaps man has had a small hand in the climate change I just cringe.

The reality of the science and the current rapid evaporation of ice is not some sort of hoax or way to scam money. Even when this topic was heavily debated on here a few years ago I was amazed at the amount of denial seemingly smart people had about mans involvement in the rise of temperature in our oceans and atmosphere.

We have had a very dramatic impact on the CO2 in our atmosphere, all of the models, ice core samples and data dating back 35 to 75 millions years correlate to a spike of CO2 in the atmosphere since the industrial revolution.

Now we have that knowledge. We did not have this science for 100 years, today we do.