why do people hate hipsters so much?

[Dorothy Wood]

eh? just read a review of Away We Go, and people seem to think it's too "hipstery". but what does that mean? beards and thrift store clothes? good music? I don't really understand what's wrong with that.

also, my friend just called me a hipster on fb because of an old blue grass folk (?) album I like. but honest to gosh, I didn't even know hipsters liked it, I just found it when I was listening to the blue grass station on pandora.



I mean, I'm a hipster, or I look like one, or I have hipster taste or whatever. but why is that bad?

[Documad]

You make the less cool people feel bad about themselves. That's my guess.


Where I work, everyone dresses professionally. I mean, there are plenty of sloppy looking people around, but they're technically wearing suits and whatnot. And people never sit in the chairs at the coffee shop in the building where I work. They get their coffee and go back to work.

So the other day, there was this hipster dad sitting in the tiny coffee shop at a little table with his hipster 2-3 year old boy. They were sharing some bakery product while they sipped their drinks. They were totally engrossed in each other and clearly like hanging out together. It was adorable. It made my day and I don't even like kids. Maybe hipster dad is a stay at home dad who is married to a lawyer or something. I wanted to hang out and solve the puzzle but I took my coffee back to my desk instead.

[NoFenders]

Not sure, but from what I notice, hipster seems to be all about what one wears. I wouldn't say music would define the hipster, since most self labled hipsters listen to all different music. But the things that carry from hipster to hipster (I usually just assume they're in college) is the basic faded Tshirt with some retro logo, the pack of PFunks, the mustache,the PBR or other retro style bottle,old shoes that look more uncomfortabe than wearing nothing at all, big glasses,tattoos and the retro hair cut. That pretty much sums up any person I could put in the hipster category.

Almost like skate rat meets grunge, but focusing more on Seattle.

There's no lifestyle per say (other than the been here forever "starving artist" lifetsyle), there's no select music per say, there's nothing to tag to hipster imo other than dress code.

Whoever called you a hipster because you listened to blueegrass must not know what bluegrass is.

[YoungRemy]

it's the skinny jeans

[kaiser soze]

why do hipsters hate people who aren't hipsters?

[Helvete]

Happy emos!

[funk63]

Idk I don't think hipsters call themselves hipsters. I think its just like the college version of a scene kid, which is pretty annoying. But eh it doesn't really matter, its just a fasion like anything. Much less annoying then alot of things.

[RobMoney$]

60's had the hippies
70's had the stoners
80's had the mallrats
90's had grunge
hipsters are just the next in line of the "in" youth uniform.

you're clown shoes.

[jabumbo]

i was talking on the phone earlier with my dad and he asked me how the show was yesterday (the black keys played a free show at the park) and he said the paper did a review and said the crowd was full of hipsters

[Audio.]

uuuhhh hipster..... I was watching king of the hill and they just had these hipsters looking for homes in a non-white neighborhood and turning this already established Hispanic community into this artsy fartsy town. eeeh I'm in a rush to play SF4 so I'll just leave to the description from TV Yahoo

Peggy meets Hank at Enrique's with a real-estate client waiting in the car, a 30-year-old hipster who hasn't been satisfied with any of the homes he's been shown. The hipster becomes enchanted with Enrique's Mexican neighborhood, and Peggy closes a deal with him. But when a slew of hipsters follow and buy up homes in the neighborhood, the fruit stands and Goodwill clothing stores are soon replaced by trendy salons and art galleries. At the Quinceaera, Enrique publicly blames Peggy for the gentrification of his neighborhood and explains that the rent on his home has skyrocketed such that they will have to move.

also this happens in Silver Lake and possibly some other cities in SoCal.

[YoungRemy]

see also, Williamsburg Brooklyn

[Yetra Flam]

see also, Williamsburg Brooklyn

yes. lived there for over a year. generally, as people, i dont like them. they were snobby and unfriendly and judgemental.

[DipDipDive]

snobby and unfriendly and judgemental.

There you have it. This is my impression of hipsters. It can't just be some extreme coincidence that all the people in hipster clans are trendy and well dressed in that "I really want you to think I'm not trying" way, which leads me to believe that you have to have a certain "look" to hang with them, and that shit is so fucking lame. They come across as elitist and shallow. I don't dig.

[Nygel]

everyone's got to bitch about something

and its more fun to bitch together.

[hitmonlee]

i hate any group of people that all dress the same, do the same things and like the same stuff.

of course i have some hipster friends but i still wsh they werent.

[yeahwho]

Hipsters are not nearly as bad as Abercrombie and Fitch style exactness in ripped jeans and an aged T Shirt sort of style. I hate that look, the corporate look of exact wear and tear on clothing, which is usually accompanied by a exact tan and straightened hair.

The hipster look is surprisingly refreshing compared to that look.

[kaiser soze]

maybe a little bit better than the pre-weathered look

but it smells like mothballs :confused:

[Audio.]

I take Hipster over Guido. But Hipster comes 2nd.

[Dorothy Wood]

it's the skinny jeans
come on, even moms in commercials for cleaning products wear skinny jeans now. it's just a style of pants.


You make the less cool people feel bad about themselves. That's my guess.


Where I work, everyone dresses professionally. I mean, there are plenty of sloppy looking people around, but they're technically wearing suits and whatnot. And people never sit in the chairs at the coffee shop in the building where I work. They get their coffee and go back to work.

So the other day, there was this hipster dad sitting in the tiny coffee shop at a little table with his hipster 2-3 year old boy. They were sharing some bakery product while they sipped their drinks. They were totally engrossed in each other and clearly like hanging out together. It was adorable. It made my day and I don't even like kids. Maybe hipster dad is a stay at home dad who is married to a lawyer or something. I wanted to hang out and solve the puzzle but I took my coffee back to my desk instead.

well, people don't have to feel bad about not being cool. ha.


i was talking on the phone earlier with my dad and he asked me how the show was yesterday (the black keys played a free show at the park) and he said the paper did a review and said the crowd was full of hipsters

see, that's what I'm talking about. what does that even mean? what kind of crowd did they expect? and why even mention it? so people can picture the show attended by a lot of people wearing tight pants and plaid shirts?

why do hipsters hate people who aren't hipsters?

and this is ridiculous. how do you know that hipsters hate people who aren't hipsters? have you talked to one? have you physically been assaulted? made fun of?

Hipsters are not nearly as bad as Abercrombie and Fitch style exactness in ripped jeans and an aged T Shirt sort of style. I hate that look, the corporate look of exact wear and tear on clothing, which is usually accompanied by a exact tan and straightened hair.

The hipster look is surprisingly refreshing compared to that look.

I was going to bring this up. I totally agree.




I guess I just don't see the point of hating a group of people for how they dress. you might laugh at them, but it doesn't make sense to be upset about it. I certainly find myself laughing about my crowd sometimes because some people take themselves so seriously. it gets less and less like that the older I get though.

I dunno. I guess I've just been noticing that that word is everywhere these days and super annoying to me.

[checkyourprez]

because they put out that vibe that they think they are cooler than people because they dont try. when in reality they are trying to not try, and thats just gay.

no offense to any hipsters on this board. its a blanket statement not true of all people.

[DipDipDive]

you might laugh at them, but it doesn't make sense to be upset about it.

Who's upset about it? The only time I'm upset about it is during critical mass when all the bearded bike-riding assholes take over the streets of Minneapolis and ride around recklessly to prove some kind of moot point about vehicular equality. Only then do they annoy me to the point that I want to punch them all in their fucking bandana-clad necks. Other than that, I just choose not to associate with them. At least not in groups. They're usually okay one on one.

Besides, no one here expressed any ill feelings until you brought up the issue, am I right? :o

[monkey]

you said it yourself when you classified hipsters as people who "listen to good music". it's not that the music is or is not good, but what's it to you (general you, not you dorothy wood) to tell me that this is good music and anything else is not?

[The Notorious LOL]

most hipsters dont listen to good music, though.

[Dorothy Wood]

Who's upset about it? The only time I'm upset about it is during critical mass when all the bearded bike-riding assholes take over the streets of Minneapolis and ride around recklessly to prove some kind of moot point about vehicular equality. Only then do they annoy me to the point that I want to punch them all in their fucking bandana-clad necks. Other than that, I just choose not to associate with them. At least not in groups. They're usually okay one on one.

Besides, no one here expressed any ill feelings until you brought up the issue, am I right? :o


oh, I didn't bring it up because of anything on here, it was just because I had noticed it out in the world and in publications. like on yelp, where some of the reviews of my friends' bar are so jerky and filled with hipster-hate. when the bar is like the most neutral bar ever. it's like Ikea: the bar. but because the bartender and owners have a beards every now and again, people are all, "wah, hipster bar, we were uncomfortable." seriously, there are 19 reviews that contain the word "hipster". (5 reviews contain "beard").


anyway I guess I just feel like at this point, it's just a style of dress and I don't understand why there has to be a personality attached to it. or a critism of that personality. just trying to figure out the motivation behind the critism.



and to critical mass, ugh. I am really against it. I'm a big time bike person, but I think that critical mass is annoying as fuck and completely reductive. it's like a rolling party full of idiots.

[Echewta]

I don't like them because they are hipper than I.

[DipDipDive]

and to critical mass, ugh. I am really against it. I'm a big time bike person, but I think that critical mass is annoying as fuck and completely reductive. it's like a rolling party full of idiots.

That's like quintessential hipster shit. The attitude that goes along with that kind of banter is what people are hating on, and unfortunately, most of the people who engage in it look a certain way. Of course that doesn't mean everyone who has that look has that attitude, but it's easy for most to assume they do based on their appearance. It's unfortunate, but true.

I'm sure your friends (and mine too) would probably assume the dude they saw walking down the street in a Hollister shirt and strategically ripped jeans listens to Hoobastank, goes tanning, and hangs out at trendy dance clubs, but how are we to know? We're all guilty of judging based on how people present themselves, and we make those assumptions based on what we've encountered in the past.

Does that make sense?

PS Assume. Just wanted to get one more in there.

[DipDipDive]

I say all this having totally hooked up with hipster dudes in the past and being more than willing to do so in the future, mind you. :cool:

[Bob]

most hipsters dont listen to good music, though.

ultra hipster

[Gareth]

there was an ep of the simpsons one time when moe became cool and moe's tavern got transformed into this swank bar that cool people went to
moe wanted to have sports playing on a tv in the new bar
one of the patrons made some snarky comment but then backtracked as if to say that moe could show sports if it's considered so uncool that its cool in a kinda "ironic" way
dunno if that attitude is really anything to do with hipsters since i know hipsters who arent like that
but perhaps people think they are like that and object

[Dorothy Wood]

I guess I just think that people think that hipsters are worse than they are. they're just people, and the jerky ones are usually the most boring and sad ones anyway. I'd say that's more the exception than the rule though, in reference to jerks.

blergh. I shouldn't talk, I once got super drunk at a "hipster" bar that I used to hang out at and screamed that I hated everyone there and how they were all the same. I don't remember details, my friends thought it was funny though. some chick called me a bitch, it was awesome. I did that once in college too, but I was screaming at preppy people. so maybe I'm the jerk.

[funk63]

I think as soon as people are self aware of doing something cool it because shit.
Like theres this place called chauncey hill and its a pretty fun to hang there sometimes, but now people just go there to BE cool and like ohh hey wanna meet at chauncey hill and then go to hookah? maybe catch some gay little local band play after? I'm like I'd rather climb a fucking water tower or go in the middle of a cornfield and start a fire.

[Drederick Tatum]

I assume being a hipster is mostly to do with clothes and music. relying on either for identity is for teenagers.

[roosta]

yeah..my understanding of hipsters is that its a music and clothes thing.

I don't really know any, but I can only assume its like any such grouping, in any walk of life.

Most of them are just regular folk who are sincerely into that stuff (or they are just going along with the trends, but not ina calculated way, but just in a they have no opinions for themselves way) but there a minority of loud-mouth tools who by virtue of being loudmouthed become the example for that group and thus paint that whole group as a bunch of tools.

[Helvete]

The fact that anyone would actually call themselves Hipster is pretty dumb. It is quite juvenile and you've actually got to make an effort to look like one or identify that way. It's not like you wake up a Hipster by accident.

"Oh wow, it just so happens that all the clothes I buy and music I listen to appears to be Hipster! Isn't that funny?! Guess I'm a Hipster then. Oh, and all my friends happen to be Hipsters aswell, we're so unique. And better than you."

No! Bunch of pretentious assholes!

Q: How many hipsters does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Some obscure number you've never even heard of.

[Audio.]

^ lmao good one (y)

I think from we are all trying to say is the ideal hipster or "hipzter' clique is what feel that are the annoying cocky group but we understand aside from the ideal hipster there are other cats who are plain .... well lets say average.

You got the ones that parade the sub culture in a pretentious fashion and the other are just living their lives like whatever.


all in all the style is outdated since us spanish were rocken the look since 1994 started in barcelona. HAH america jocked us. :cool:

But yeah the pretentious hipsters are the irritating ones... fuck I need sleep sorry for being a dick or a bad typer or whatever i'm missing or doing bad in this post I'm not putting in much thought so its just a last minute run i'm posting before I got sleep since it waaay in the morning the fucking birds wont shut up.

[RobMoney$]

It's the gaywad haircuts that are pretty annoying too.
Keith Richards & Pete Townsend were rockin that shit back in the 60's and it was cool.
On you, in the year 2009, not so much.

[Caribou]

I'm mostly annoyed by them at concerts or festivals.
As mentioned before, they have this kindof 'I don't care' attitude, which often results in them not caring about the people around them ('yeah, i can see there's no space there, but I have to tell my friends I stood in front at the gig, so I'll squeeze my way through anyway and poke my elbow in someone's boob all night'), and not care about the artist.
For some reason, they just don't seem to be able to shut the hell up. No matter what gig I go to, they're always there, talking very loudly about absolute bullshit. I've asked one of them why they bothered coming to the gig at all, if they didn't want to listen to the music. Why not just go to the pub? And she answered that she didn't care, but just liked 'the atmosphere' and wanted to be able to say that she's seen band so-and-so.
GRRRRR! :mad:
They are just fully obsessed with themselves, their appearance and their levels of coolness.

Recently I went to a gig where hardly any hipsters were present (mainly geeks in their late 20's/30's) and the atmosphere was so much more relaxed. People chatted to eachother and got eachother beers, just for liking the same music. Those are my kind of people. Don't judge dudes, just relax and respect eachother 'n shit.

So yeah, I'm not very fond of 'hipsters' at gigs, but otherwise I don't really mind them, because I can just ignore them if I wish.

[mathcart]

Reread this entire thread and replace the word "hipsters" with "hippies" and then astro-project yourself back to 1971 and this will all make much more sense...
(y)

[checkyourprez]

i saw a commercial for NY prep, some gay reality show on bravo about ny city prep kids.

they should call it NY hipster. because all these little d bags fit the mold.

[DIGI]

Definitely the skinny jeans.

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm wearing skinny jeans right now, the majority of my friends wear skinny jeans. not really the all the dudes so much though. they just wear fitted straight leg jeans or pants.

I really don't understand what's wrong with that.


but I also think that what you guys consider "hipsters", I would call "scenesters". and those people are gross, but not really that annoying other than having apparently ruined the reputation of perfectly good plaid shirts.

here: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_01/jeansDM3003_468x417.jpg

I do hang out with people who look like the two on the right. I got no idea what kinda fashion crime is going on there to the left.


and dudes that look like this:
http://opbmusic.org/uploads/old2007/09/pseudosix1large1.jpg

and this:
http://www.alarmpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/grizzlybear2.jpg
;)



anyway, I do think I'm cool and that I like cool stuff, but I don't lord it over people. I'm the kind of person who buys records 2 years after they're popular because I just forgot to listen. I guess I just don't know when being cool turned into something bad and I don't like being lumped in with scenesters because I wear skinny jeans and like dudes with beards.


ugh, I think I'm too old to be a hipster anyway.

[YoungRemy]

Hipsters move to New York or LA and tell other people who move to NY or LA to go back to Ohio.

I won't post the Hipster Olympics video, besides I saw that two years ago before anyone knew about it...:rolleyes:

[RobMoney$]

I just want to point out the ridiculousness of this entire thread.

Dorothy doesn't know why someone would call a friends' bar "hipstery", yet she goes on to tell us how she and all her friends are just that?

[Audio.]

ppffffffffffffff rofl

[Dorothy Wood]

whatever, audio, you're trendy as fuck. thought you were a solid dude though. guess I was wrong.


I didn't say my friends were hipsters, I was just pointing out that my style of dress and that of some of my friends would be considered hipster.

and point of that is to say that my friends aren't jerks who judge people, they're regular nice people who happen dress a certain way. they're a whole hell of a lot less jerky than some of you jerks in here.


I should've known this would've turned into a bullshit bitch fest about skinny jeans. what I was originally trying to ask is why movies and books and music have to be labeled as "hipster", as some kind of insult. it's getting to the point where you can't like anything without it being labeled that. oh, didn't you hear? liking sports is hipster now. yeah yeah, it is, because of the sweet irony of the whole thing. liking science fiction is hipster too, again, for the irony. let's see, and if you listen to any music that ever existed that isn't new country, you're a hipster.

or maybe people just like things sometimes and it doesn't have a god damn thing to do with you.

[Videodrome]

i'll drink to that.

[Dorothy Wood]

:)

[Audio.]

whatever, audio, you're trendy as fuck. thought you were a solid dude though. guess I was wrong.


hahah wot? I never thought of myself as trendy guy.

Really I dont give a damn who dresses what or listens to what. I thought a lot of people came to the idea the appearances are not always what they seem to be. I do read a lot in this thread about posts mainly dealing with the clothing appearances and their assumptions about the wearers but I mean come on that is so weak.

I actually was talking about how the "Hipsters/scenesters/emos/other gay labels" that they pretty much turn the community around. For instance you lived in a quiet neighborhood and at some point you neighborhood becomes an attraction or the home of those hipsters and now every night your sleep is interrupted with garage bands almost every Thursday night to the morning. Remember in San Fransisco how the cycling trend hit over there with the "hipsters"? I dont care they have one part of their pants raised while riding (its not a style its more of choice so the pants wont get caught on the chains but ... yeah it could be a style of wear) ... so yeah remember the bike riding hipster in San Fransisco, well over the the Taxi driver fought with these bike riders mostly because they were riding in the wrong lane and fucking up traffic. Accidents and fights. Home prices get higher and sooner or later the area turns from Sunset BLVD to Melrose and possibly Beverly Hills. Okay that was a stupid assumption but it goes around those lines.

And there are some other stuff but like any other thing in life we all have our negative views on some one.

[Dorothy Wood]

hahah wot? I never thought of myself as trendy guy.

Really I dont give a damn who dresses what or listens to what. I thought a lot of people came to the idea the appearances are not always what they seem to be. I do read a lot in this thread about posts mainly dealing with the clothing appearances and their assumptions about the wearers but I mean come on that is so weak.

I actually was talking about how the "Hipsters/scenesters/emos/other gay labels" that they pretty much turn the community around. For instance you lived in a quiet neighborhood and at some point you neighborhood becomes an attraction or the home of those hipsters and now every night your sleep is interrupted with garage bands almost every Thursday night to the morning. Remember in San Fransisco how the cycling trend hit over there with the "hipsters"? I dont care they have one part of their pants raised while riding (its not a style its more of choice so the pants wont get caught on the chains but ... yeah it could be a style of wear) ... so yeah remember the bike riding hipster in San Fransisco, well over the the Taxi driver fought with these bike riders mostly because they were riding in the wrong lane and fucking up traffic. Accidents and fights. Home prices get higher and sooner or later the area turns from Sunset BLVD to Melrose and possibly Beverly Hills. Okay that was a stupid assumption but it goes around those lines.

And there are some other stuff but like any other thing in life we all have our negative views on some one.

alright, sorry, I overreacted. just seemed weird for someone who seemed into the art and stuff you are (generally stylish/stylized type things) to be a hater.

meh. I live in a mostly hispanic neighbohood, but I'm part spanish so I figure it's allowed. and besides, it used to be a norwegian neighborhood, and I'm scandinavian too. so, I think I fit in nicely. and anyway, the local government, the historical preservationists, crack heads and the latin kings are doing a good job keeping gentrification at bay for the most part. and I think we only have one starbucks.


sidenote: I hate unlawful bikers of any kind. they ruin things for everyone. but I've seen just as many 45 year old lance armstrong wannabes pull dumb shit as I have fixed gear-riding assholes.

[Helvete]

I didn't know you were born in Scandinavia.

[Drederick Tatum]

Scandinavian and Spanish?

[Helvete]

I'm Scandinavian aswell, I went there once and also I've seen a few films from Norway and Sweden.

[camo]

I just rock what I want, when I want. I've been arty and alternative since my early teens...way longer than it was cool to be seen like that. I used to get shit for it all the time. I had a little clique, we all stuck together and listened to different music but never hated on folk...now it's all elitist 'cooler than thou' bollocks.

I was at 'The Gallows' first gig in Leeds 2007 and the crowd were all punks pogo-ing and having a proper laugh. When people fell they got picked up, it was a great gig. Roll forward 6 months and they were getting some major covereage in the NME (a predominantly pretentious indie press favoured by scene/trendy peeps). The next gig at the same venue was populated by scenesters and punk fans (70/30). Even the singer said what the fuck when he saw the crowd. As soon as the band kicked off all the scenester just stood there with their arms folded. I even saw one of them throw a punch at someone because the pit overflowed in his direction and it messed his hair up.

I'd say that I take a little bit from each scene (before the catagorised it all) and not care if I don't fit into any of it.

A few months back I walked by two guys who were covered in piercings. One had a Clash tee on and the other had an Iron Maiden hoody. As I walked by they called me a 'chemo' (chee-mo). After googling it I found out that a chemo is a chav/emo half breed. Haha wtf, I'd been labelled by a couple of fuckwit teens.


This song sums it up well (y)

Urban Hipster, the new gangster… frontin’ by the club
New wave mannequins packin’ haircuts, instead of packin’ guns
Magazines from overseas, won’t teach you how to feel
They trade in their hearts for indie rock charts to tell them what is real

When did they assume… putting on a costume?
Gave them a right to… ostracize
Out of the woodwork… art aficionados
Answer one question…

Where is the line? Where is the line?
Between your fashion and your mind
Where is the line? Where is the line?
‘Cause some of us aren’t blind!
Where is the line? Where is the line?
To be your self is not a crime
Where is the Line? Where is the line?
‘Cause some of us aren’t blind!
She sells street cred with no smile, at the local record store
She’s acting the role and dressing the part, pretending to be bored
The truth about conformity, is it bites without a sting
Trends come and go, but when your alone it doesn’t mean a thing

When did they assume… putting on a costume?
Gave them a right to… ostracize
Out of the woodwork… art aficionados
Answer one question…

Where is the line? Where is the line?
Between your fashion and your mind
Where is the line? Where is the line?
‘Cause some of us aren’t blind!
Where is the line? Where is the line?
To be your self is not a crime
Where is the Line? Where is the line?
‘Cause some of us aren’t blind!

Here today, but forgotten tomorrow!
Here today, but forgotten tomorrow!
Here today, but forgotten tomorrow!

[Tzar]

There you have it. This is my impression of hipsters. It can't just be some extreme coincidence that all the people in hipster clans are trendy and well dressed in that "I really want you to think I'm not trying" way, which leads me to believe that you have to have a certain "look" to hang with them, and that shit is so fucking lame. They come across as elitist and shallow. I don't dig.
sorta like you and your e-boyfriend.

i call these type of people "triple j" or "the alternatives". i think i've had a go at people being "alternative" on here before?

[Tzar]

basically, everyone here is a hipster. general public would consider everyone here a hipster. we're on a music forum and we ain't even discussing their music. that so hipster in itself.

soooo triple j.

[Nuzzolese]

I assume being a hipster is mostly to do with clothes and music. relying on either for identity is for teenagers.


here, here!

[Nuzzolese]

I think it's silly to let something like hipsters bother you. When I was a teenager it was important to me to know where a person shopped for clothes and what music they liked. But by the end of highschool I learned that that was shallow. End of story.

Usually it's easy to tell whether or not someone genuinely likes something or they are only trying to make connections between material thngs (or some kind of music/fashion scene) and their ill-established identity, or lack thereof.

I just bought some skinny jeans for the first time and I feel silly that I'm so late to get on the bandwagon but I'm also having a helluva time finding shoes to wear with them. I was surprised that I actually liked they way they look on me.

[Dorothy Wood]

I didn't know you were born in Scandinavia.

Scandinavian and Spanish?

I'm Scandinavian aswell, I went there once and also I've seen a few films from Norway and Sweden.


oh my god, you guys are so nit picky.

I put Scandinavian because my mom's side of the family is Finnish (my mom's grandparents and older aunts and uncles were born there), but where I grew up in Michigan, my grandma hung out with Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian folks. Our heritage was important to my grandmother, so she taught me a lot. I hung out with her at this joint a lot: http://www.finnishcenter.org/ Geez. I don't know, my mom always told me we were Scandinavians.

And...growing up, I spent a lot of time in New Mexico with my father's mother and other family members and friends who are Spanish (not from Spain, no, but descended from people who were pushed out of Spain because they were jews) and Mexican.


whatever, I was going to go on, but I don't feel like trying to explain. I made a flippant comment at 2 a.m. sue me.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

There you have it. This is my impression of hipsters. It can't just be some extreme coincidence that all the people in hipster clans are trendy and well dressed in that "I really want you to think I'm not trying" way, which leads me to believe that you have to have a certain "look" to hang with them, and that shit is so fucking lame. They come across as elitist and shallow. I don't dig.

This.

At least, that's how it seems 90% of the time.

I like most music that hipsters listen to though, so they have that going for them. I just ignore them though. I might not dress like them but I can appreciate going to good shows and bars that play good tunes and offer $2 Tecate. Damn those bastards for 'discovering' Tecate though. I'm Mexican. I already had that shit on lock down, damn it.

[MC Moot]

Hipster:The Dead End of Western Civilization… ( http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html )(y)

[Dorothy Wood]

Hipster:The Dead End of Western Civilization… (http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html)(y)


yeah, that's an interesting article, but dude acts like he's the first guy to make social commentary on youth movements. and he's romanticized the idea of counterculture too much. I mean, Tom Wolfe ripped the shit out of kids and their fashion and rituals in the 60's and 70's. it's pretty much always been about aesthetics for most people involved in any sort of counterculture. it's how they present themselves. it didn't start that way, it just turned out that way.


as for hipsters rejecting the label hipster, I think it's because it's not a movement or a counterculture. it's just a fashion culture. nobody started dressing that way as a statement. if you look at pictures of the punk scene in the late 70's, the people look very much like today's hipsters.

and ultimately that's why I don't understand why people get so upset. it's fashion.

whatever, maybe the hipsters where I live aren't as bad as where some of you guys live. the way I see it, the people who hate them are more elitist than they claim the hipsters are.

I dunno, I don't think I'm a hipster. or at least I don't try to be one. I just wear stuff I like. I've decided I'm arty. I still get harassed sometimes when I'm riding my bike though. which is just retarded. "GET A CAR, HIPSTER!" yeah, okay.

[YoungRemy]

Hipsters can have their little corners of coolness, they can go to their cool coffee shops, reading their obscure zines, wearing their skinny jeans. they can snub their noses at all the gentrification, the gentrification that they are a part of. they can act all non-chalant and stand up for their fashion and music sense (because they know deep down they are trendy) and they can volunteer at the soup kitchen and then go pat themselves on the back for living in a neighborhood that has culture and how they are helping the needy.

it is just so TRANSPARENT. We are just giving you all the reasons to your question, DW, and skinny jeans and fashion are actually the least of those reasons. but if you wear skinny jeans and you know people who wear skinny jeans, I wouldn't sweat those comments any worse than those that say hipsters are shallow and pretentious.

scenesters are just emo kids with hoodies and eyeliner, no?

[MC Moot]

yeah, that's an interesting article, but dude acts like he's the first guy to make social commentary on youth movements. and he's romanticized the idea of counterculture too much. I mean, Tom Wolfe ripped the shit out of kids and their fashion and rituals in the 60's and 70's. it's pretty much always been about aesthetics for most people involved in any sort of counterculture. it's how they present themselves. it didn't start that way, it just turned out that way.


as for hipsters rejecting the label hipster, I think it's because it's not a movement or a counterculture. it's just a fashion culture. nobody started dressing that way as a statement. if you look at pictures of the punk scene in the late 70's, the people look very much like today's hipsters.

and ultimately that's why I don't understand why people get so upset. it's fashion.

whatever, maybe the hipsters where I live aren't as bad as where some of you guys live. the way I see it, the people who hate them are more elitist than they claim the hipsters are.

I dunno, I don't think I'm a hipster. or at least I don't try to be one. I just wear stuff I like. I've decided I'm arty. I still get harassed sometimes when I'm riding my bike though. which is just retarded. "GET A CAR, HIPSTER!" yeah, okay.


The irony of the article being that almost everyone I know who personally may be described as a "Hipster" are adament readers or subscribers to the magazine...which by the way is fantastic...me I just wish they'd eat something,refrain from wearing plaid pants,get a proper haircut,lose the Chuck Klosterman glasses and the pretense of thou art hipper than you...;)

http://www.adbusters.org/

[DipDipDive]

sorta like you and your e-boyfriend.

I'm not quite sure who you are referring to here seeing as how I'm totally single right now, and previously dated someone from this board for 3 years, 2 of which we spent living in the same apartment. Thanks for playing though.

Calling someone shallow who you don't actually know in life is totally retarded.

[b i o n i c]

i think what annoys people about hipsters is the unoriginality of it all.

also, the emphasis on "style" vs. substance.

even though the style is just trying really hard to look like you just woke up hungover in 1982. so its like all this emphasis on something that has no substance either. usually the youth are expected to innovate and expand, but this generations 'trendsetters' have just regressed and stagnated while feebly waving the flag of individuality they made out rags grandma threw away when she thought they werent cool anymore

i get the impression that so called hipsters just really want their lives to look like their parents old photo album

[paul jones]

I can't wait for Space clothes to become hip but that won't be until the 25th century like in Buck Rogers

*cries*

[monkey]

i dont know why this is all so focused on what people wear vs attitudes that they find annoying. we probably all know people or are people who dress in this "hipster style". doesn't mean that we lump our friends or ourselves into the hipster stereotype. what really lumps it up, for me, is the attitude. if you wear your skinny jeans and your ill fitting dress but you are a nonjudgemental person, you don't claim that your tastes are by far the best and the only ones that should be employed, and you ride your bike because you dont want to burn fossil fuels, then i dont think anyone has a problem with you. it's the hipper-than-thou attitude that has made the label hipster so dreaded. goodness, it's not like this generation INVENTED clothes, shoes, bikes, or music, so why act like it?

judging people based on superficial likes and dislikes is stupid. (haha, a judgment.) but great minds all throughout history have asked others to base their judgments of others on the quality of their actions. their kindness and compassion, more or less. i just think that's a more valid classification.

[b i o n i c]

most people in youth cultures self identify, this isnt blanket judgement on people going about their lives. for the most part they mean well though(y)

[Nuzzolese]

I think I understand the hate. I'm assuming galaxies of things here.

Hipsters like the idea of being a part of something authentic and unspoiled by commercial consumption, but outside of those terms are not too picky. But in trying to indulge in that which they believe to be unspoiled, they themsleves spoil it by making it pupular among other hipsters who don't truly like it for what it is, but only because it meets their loose criteria of authenticity.

This pisses off those people who truly do like it for what it is, and they don't appreciate all the phony 'appreciation' of it because they're protective of it and didn't want it spoiled by overconsumption either - which turns it into something else, turns into just a joke or a trend or a stereotype, a social tool to help insecure people identify with a crowd instead of something appreciated on its own terms.

Now the mature thing to do, for those who did appreciate something before it became a joke or a stereotype, would be to continue to appreciate it on its own terms, maybe try to educate those who might misunderstand it, and ignore all the phony posturing - rather than getting mad at hipsters and labeling them based on other things they identify themselves with. One man's Skinny Jeans is another man's Tom Waits.

[b i o n i c]

*sigh* (y)

[Dorothy Wood]

i get the impression that so called hipsters just really want their lives to look like their parents old photo album


ah, see! I am guilty of this. but why is that hipster? in the 70's, there were kids who dressed like it was the 50's. were they hipsters? my mom liked music from the 40's and 50's when she was a teenager, was she a hipster? I think it's quite normal to crave the supposed simplicity of the past.


I don't know. it's just too far-reaching, too many things fall under the hipster umbrella. and it just seems really lazy.


I guess I can see the "style vs. substance" issue, but I don't think that something needs to be written off for not having substance based on the fact that it happens to be stylish. i.e., the backlash against Wes Anderson.

I'm not discounting the fact that there are plenty of empty assholes roaming around this planet, I just don't really have to deal with them that much I guess.

meh, none of this matters, I don't know why I'm being so sensitive. it all started because some douche wrote that my favorite author was a hipster. and he's just a regular man, albeit clever and amazing.

[Echewta]

If people consider Journey to be hipster, then count me in!

[NoFenders]

i get the impression that so called hipsters just really want their lives to look like their parents old photo album

LOL Nice!

[Caribou]

Specially for Dottie:

Finnish hipsters! (http://www.hel-looks.com)

[b i o n i c]

ah, see! I am guilty of this. but why is that hipster? in the 70's, there were kids who dressed like it was the 50's. were they hipsters? my mom liked music from the 40's and 50's when she was a teenager, was she a hipster? I think it's quite normal to crave the supposed simplicity of the past.

no, they werent. hipsters is a just a term someone invented to talk about a particular brand of youth culture that exists today.

but yeah, its really normal to crave the past and its simplicity. im like that about a lot of things

I guess I can see the "style vs. substance" issue, but I don't think that something needs to be written off for not having substance based on the fact that it happens to be stylish. i.e., the backlash against Wes Anderson.

style does not equal stylish. someone could wear a paperbag every day, that would be their style. stylish is when something looks good, and that might be another part of what annoys people about hipsters, the assumption that throwing a bunch of old things together equals stylish.

authenticity doesnt always equal good or stylish. a ford pinto in mint condition is an authentic piece of shit

i have seen very few examples of people who make the hipster thing work. these people cross the line of plain authenticity and combine it with purpose and taste. this is a rarity

some people call it preference and opinion, the people who disagree call it elitism. i dont really hate "hipsters", i have a lot of friends who would be called "hipsters", i just think they're kind of funny.

i will say this, i usually have a better time at hipster bars than at clubs. it could just be the cheap beer.

[paul jones]

Specially for Dottie:

Finnish hipsters! (http://www.hel-looks.com)

I'm buying you a beer right now for that.I can't stop laughing(y)

[Dorothy Wood]

Specially for Dottie:

Finnish hipsters! (http://www.hel-looks.com)


ha, I look at that website all the time for fashion ideas. :o even though some of those kids have some crazy ideas about proportion. I like to see what the over-30 finns are wearing too, since I'm getting old.

[skinnybutphat]

Hipsters are too harmless to be hated.

I thought it was odd and funny when I went to Milwaukee & North two years ago the area had been overtaken by hipsters wearing scarves and riding bikes.

Trying really hard to be ambivalent will always be funny.

[TAL]

ha, I look at that website all the time for fashion ideas. :o even though some of those kids have some crazy ideas about proportion. I like to see what the over-30 finns are wearing too, since I'm getting old.

There's over-30s there too.

[b i o n i c]

i've seen 50 year old "hipsters"

besides, old people are the original hipster (y)

[paul jones]

I've seen some old people with new hips

[Dorothy Wood]

i have seen very few examples of people who make the hipster thing work. these people cross the line of plain authenticity and combine it with purpose and taste. this is a rarity




see, I feel like a lot of my friends and I accomplish this. I don't think it's that rare here. take the big glasses thing, a couple of stylish girls I know started wearing bigger eyeglasses (prescription) because they were getting tired of the small black rim frames that everybody was wearing. it wasn't really a statement, just a "hey, let's try this". and then about 6 months later, I saw it everywhere. and they weren't like, "yeah, we started that, we are sooo hip". it was like, "okay, well, that kinda sucks, but I'm going to keep wearing my glasses until I need new ones".

(I for one, dislike eyeglass and sunglass trends because I feel like people should just wear the shape of frame that suits their face best.)


the more I read what you guys have to say, the more I think that it's the new york hipsters that are ruining it for everyone. bastards.

and that mark the cobra snake creep in LA.

[Dorothy Wood]

Hipsters are too harmless to be hated.

I thought it was odd and funny when I went to Milwaukee & North two years ago the area had been overtaken by hipsters wearing scarves and riding bikes.

Trying really hard to be ambivalent will always be funny.


wha? well, now it's filled with yuppies and suburbanites.

hey, when you met me, did you think I was a hipster? I think your wife did.

[Nuzzolese]

Dorothy, have you ever tried to test your powers as a hipster? If I was a hipster, that's what I'd do. I think you should pick something meaningless and try to make it trendy, just to see if it takes off.

[skinnybutphat]

wha? well, now it's filled with yuppies and suburbanites.

hey, when you met me, did you think I was a hipster? I think your wife did.

I thought you were a hipster before I met you from your pics on here. I was amazed how quiet and reserved you seemed in person. I think my wife had the same thought. I think I told my wife we were meeting up with the Beastie Boy girl, and the wild hipster girl.

:o
sorry

[Echewta]

I vote for Hemmo

[Dorothy Wood]

Dorothy, have you ever tried to test your powers as a hipster? If I was a hipster, that's what I'd do. I think you should pick something meaningless and try to make it trendy, just to see if it takes off.

years ago I tried to make cuffing jean skirts popular as a joke. it didn't work. anyway, it doesn't really work like that in my group of friends. we all look different, even though there might be some style cross over. besides skinny jeans and early 80's cotton blouses, there aren't really things that everyone wears. I do have a pair of white floral ballet flats that I decided to draw a checkerboard pattern on because they seemed just too precious. I call them my "clarissa explains it all" shoes. because she painted black checks on her floral wallpaper in her bedroom. you can kinda see it here: http://iceicebabies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/clarissa-explains-it-all-300x221.jpg

I get compliments on them all the time. I do like them, but they are fucking ridiculous-looking. I'll see if they take.


I thought you were a hipster before I met you from your pics on here. I was amazed how quiet and reserved you seemed in person. I think my wife had the same thought. I think I told my wife we were meeting up with the Beastie Boy girl, and the wild hipster girl.

:o
sorry

aw, well, what'd you think I was going to do, hold ya down and force you to drink PBR? silly goose.

so wait, you still think I'm a hipster or what?

[skinnybutphat]

aw, well, what'd you think I was going to do, hold ya down and force you to drink PBR? silly goose.

so wait, you still think I'm a hipster or what?

That would have made for a more interesting night. I still see you as a hipster, but less of a hipster than I thought. You just seemed like a nice & quiet girl. I was hoping for more Sarktafied Sarkyness from you because I know you're a witty chick.

That's my in depth analysis based on the 2 minutes we actually spoke.

[Dorothy Wood]

well, I'm shy. sorry I didn't get all sarkified. I'm pretty quiet with strangers in real life unless I'm drunk. I was also quieter because I was trying to avoid some dudes I used to know that were there roaming around outside. didn't want to draw attention to myself. they're nice dudes, just didn't feel like talking to them.

I probably got wild later though and punched someone. probably.


oh, and I'll take "less of a hipster", thanks. ;)

[Drederick Tatum]

since when has riding a bike been a hipster thing to do? it's a centuries old machine.

[paul jones]

since when has riding a bike been a hipster thing to do? it's a centuries old machine.

tru dat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7f7oLfKFD0

[skinnybutphat]

Dammit, I missed out on the good Sarky

since when has riding a bike been a hipster thing to do? it's a centuries old machine.

Rarely do I see someone on a bike at 1:00 AM in Chicago.

The night I was in this neighborhood I saw at least 10 people riding at that time of night, and they all had scarves and PBR in their baskets.

[Caribou]

If riding a bike is hip, I'm from the hippest country in the world. :cool:

Though I doubt this thing would be considered hip anywhere else...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/Caribooo/Foto0025.jpg

[paul jones]

If riding a bike is hip, I'm from the hippest country in the world. :cool:

Though I doubt this thing would be considered hip anywhere else...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/Caribooo/Foto0025.jpg

it look like a robot grasshopper(y)

[Caribou]

And it's sparkly, though you can only see that on sunny days.

I've been thinking about painting purple stars on it... But I'm not sure.

[paul jones]

I've been thinking about painting purple stars on it... But I'm not sure.


that'll make it go ten times faster(y)

[Dorothy Wood]

Dammit, I missed out on the good Sarky



Rarely do I see someone on a bike at 1:00 AM in Chicago.

The night I was in this neighborhood I saw at least 10 people riding at that time of night, and they all had scarves and PBR in their baskets.


lies! real hipsters don't have baskets. they ride no logo fixies and put PBRs in their chrome bags (http://magyar.mashkulture.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/chrome_bags_01.jpg), duh!



well, I'm off to listen to animal collective and not take a shower.

[paul jones]

well, I'm off to listen to animal collective and not take a shower.

oh you rebel!(y);)

[Audio.]

i dont know why this is all so focused on what people wear vs attitudes that they find annoying. we probably all know people or are people who dress in this "hipster style". doesn't mean that we lump our friends or ourselves into the hipster stereotype. what really lumps it up, for me, is the attitude. if you wear your skinny jeans and your ill fitting dress but you are a nonjudgemental person, you don't claim that your tastes are by far the best and the only ones that should be employed, and you ride your bike because you dont want to burn fossil fuels, then i dont think anyone has a problem with you. it's the hipper-than-thou attitude that has made the label hipster so dreaded. goodness, it's not like this generation INVENTED clothes, shoes, bikes, or music, so why act like it?

judging people based on superficial likes and dislikes is stupid. (haha, a judgment.) but great minds all throughout history have asked others to base their judgments of others on the quality of their actions. their kindness and compassion, more or less. i just think that's a more valid classification.

This

[checkyourprez]

If riding a bike is hip, I'm from the hippest country in the world. :cool:

Though I doubt this thing would be considered hip anywhere else...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/Caribooo/Foto0025.jpg

that is a hipster bike.

[Caribou]

that is a hipster bike.

There are thousands of those in this city alone. :D

(THIS (http://media.photobucket.com/image/fietsenstalling/dommeltje/April2008/Fietsfoutfietsweg10Custom.jpg) goes al the way to the back, there are 5 rows next to eachother and there are about 4 of these bike-parkings around the trainstation... And it's still hell to try and find a spot for your bike. Yep, it's hipsterbike heaven)

[Videodrome]

There are thousands of those in this city alone. :D

(THIS (http://media.photobucket.com/image/fietsenstalling/dommeltje/April2008/Fietsfoutfietsweg10Custom.jpg) goes al the way to the back, there are 5 rows next to eachother and there are about 4 of these bike-parkings around the trainstation... And it's still hell to try and find a spot for your bike. Yep, it's hipsterbike heaven)

wow! how do you find your bike?

[Caribou]

wow! how do you find your bike?

It's a skill that is passed on from generation to generation.

Oh and that it's brightgreen helps too. ;)

[funk63]

O shit. Am I a hipster for thinking that green bike looks kool.

[-T-]

I must be quite behind on the times but I just educated myself on the hipster with the help of google images. (y)

I am willing to bet i will start noticing hipster crews around town.

[fucktopgirl]

Hipster (http://badgerherald.com/news/2009/03/27/so_you_wanna_be_a_hi.php)



















Oh, by the way, you should go check my thread about the documentary HOME, it is worth seeing...k thanks:D

[Documad]

Hmmm. I've been using the term "hipster" to describe people for over 20 years. I'm confused at people thinking it's something new, but I suppose it's because it took off more recently in some local regions? My niece was dressing like a hipster about 15 years ago (and she still does now although I bet she would deny it).

Skinny jeans were popular among my friends for most of my jeans-wearing life. A word to the wise. They look AWFUL on you if you weigh over 110 pounds. It's odd if they are back now that most young adults in the US are pudgy. In the 70s, they made sense and looked kind of good on super thin girls wearing tube tops. You see hipster, but I see 70s TV dance show.

The hipsters are better than most. They never get in my way when I'm out. They're not loud. They don't get drunk and ruin the music for me. If they want to hang around in back by the bar and look cool it's to my advantage because I want to be down front. And they're always nice to me when I talk to them. Especially the guys. I like hipsters. Some of them wait on me every day.

[RobMoney$]

I like hipsters. Some of them wait on me every day.


I'm debating making this my sig, doc.

[Dorothy Wood]

Hmmm. I've been using the term "hipster" to describe people for over 20 years. I'm confused at people thinking it's something new, but I suppose it's because it took off more recently in some local regions? My niece was dressing like a hipster about 15 years ago (and she still does now although I bet she would deny it).

Skinny jeans were popular among my friends for most of my jeans-wearing life. A word to the wise. They look AWFUL on you if you weigh over 110 pounds. It's odd if they are back now that most young adults in the US are pudgy. In the 70s, they made sense and looked kind of good on super thin girls wearing tube tops. You see hipster, but I see 70s TV dance show.

The hipsters are better than most. They never get in my way when I'm out. They're not loud. They don't get drunk and ruin the music for me. If they want to hang around in back by the bar and look cool it's to my advantage because I want to be down front. And they're always nice to me when I talk to them. Especially the guys. I like hipsters. Some of them wait on me every day.

I respect you, so I'm going to respectfully disagree about skinny jeans. I am a big girl, and I wear them well. even my mom likes me in them. they just need to fit correctly so there's no muffin top. I will say it helps that I have a shapely bottom half with nary a saddle bag. they're not for everyone, that, I can agree with.

as for your slight against the service industry...I think you're being kind of rude. imagine if you replaced "hipster" with another pejorative.

the friends that I have that look like hipsters or at the very least associate with hipsters are television producers, architects, engineers, teachers, nurses, event planners, neurobiologists, physicists, doctors, law clerks, lawyers, graphic designers, skilled craftsmen, small business owners, marketing analysts, therapists, fashion designers, magazine editors, health writers, librarians, tenured history professors, stock brokers, gallery directors, veterinarians and so on.

sure, a couple people work at record stores, one of the librarians also makes pizzas on the side, most everyone I know is into cycling, and a lot of the above are also musicians...but, geez. it breaks my heart that a person's appearance would derive such vitriol.

I suppose that's why I'm being so sensitive about the label. I try my best to be a productive member of society and I know that most, if not all of my friends are doing the same.

[skra75]

There you have it. This is my impression of hipsters. It can't just be some extreme coincidence that all the people in hipster clans are trendy and well dressed in that "I really want you to think I'm not trying" way, which leads me to believe that you have to have a certain "look" to hang with them, and that shit is so fucking lame. They come across as elitist and shallow. I don't dig.

the condencending attitude makes people who are not completely engrossed in music and counter culture cool want to label them because they are an annoying anomaly. I agree with what you said here and alot of times hipsters will come at you with some new music and then be dileberately vague about where it came from, like it came from some secret fucking hipster vault.

I wear flannels in the summer and have been known to sport a beard and all the trademark hipster clothes, I listen to old dusty records and am somewhat socially awkward sometimes, so I'm sure people say shit about me behind my back, but the irony is, the layers of the hipsters are infinite and I find myself getting the "pfft...whatever" brushoff sometimes by those more the leet. to them I just chuckle inside and laugh at their disproportianate bodies squeezed into awkward pants, then drink more coffee and immerse myself in work.

(BEER FUELED EDIT!)
ALSO I find that those who are oft offended by the term hipster are also kinda close minded about hanging out with people who listen to top 40 or are really into star trek or are like, Larpers, or ....whatever. The world is so filled with all sorts of interesting ppl and too often the hipsters (if I can call them that) find themselves hopelessly clooged onto a subculture for a sense of family or belonging. It's really lame. I did that in the ninties and it's super embarrasing now, like an ugly piercing or something. Growing past all that elite motherfucker balonely was an imprtant par tof growing up and taking responsibilty for myself. Beer.

[Echewta]

http://www.midnightridazz.com/

I love these hipsterzz here in L.A. Especially when they ride by my house in the dozens or hundreds on a Sunday morning around 1:00 a.m. hoot'n and hollar'n and stopping traffic wherever they go because gee wizz, they are on bikes.

[Audio.]

lol one of my friends roll with the crew from midnightridazz site. He is not a hipster at all by what most people's standards. The site is mainly just to for the SoCal bike riders community so many different groups just hang there to talk or set up an event to ride. Good site to find bike riders but thats all I know. It seems to work for my friend.

[Bob]

http://www.midnightridazz.com/

I love these hipsterzz here in L.A. Especially when they ride by my house in the dozens or hundreds on a Sunday morning around 1:00 a.m. hoot'n and hollar'n and stopping traffic wherever they go because gee wizz, they are on bikes.

that'll teach motorists to resent cyclists

[Documad]

as for your slight against the service industry...I think you're being kind of rude. imagine if you replaced "hipster" with another pejorative.

I'm sorry that you were offended. I didn't mean to be rude. I really like the guys at my coffee shop and my deli and I wasn't trying to be funny. My niece is super cool and she's got a responsible job (even though many of her friends are layabouts and that's no longer attractive when you're pushing 30). I didn't mean to convey the whole breadth of hipster people out there. I was just talking about the ones I interact with. Sorry.

And I really, really love the guys at my record store, though most of them aren't hipsters. They're just plain music nerds.

[Caribou]

King of the hipsters. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mpJumHU-w)

[camo]

Kanye West glasses (http://hannepanne.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/kanye-west-grill-glasses-3.jpg).

To me they are usually a sign of a hipster/scenester/trendy.

Fuckin' bellends :rolleyes:

[Caribou]

Shit...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/Caribooo/scum.jpg

I was being Ironic, obviously. :p

[camo]

can see photobucket at work but is that a picture of you in said glasses?

If so...shame on you! :D

[Tzar]

I'm not quite sure who you are referring to here seeing as how I'm totally single right now, and previously dated someone from this board for 3 years, 2 of which we spent living in the same apartment. Thanks for playing though.

blah blah blah is totally retarded.
examples of what i meant. i'm glad to have played though... thanks for having me.

how did you's end by the way?

[ms.peachy]

For days now this thread's been going and I haven't opened it because I thought it was about trousers, and I had no opinion about them really. But it's gone on for pages and I thought "wow, people have an awful lot to say about trousers, I should check this out." And what I've learned is, I still have no opinion. I don't think it's possible for anyone as old as me to care about this.

[HEIRESS]

I'm surprised american apparel hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

[YoungRemy]

I was going to type a list of things my friends did for a living and American Apparel retail clerk/model was one of them!

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm sorry that you were offended. I didn't mean to be rude. I really like the guys at my coffee shop and my deli and I wasn't trying to be funny. My niece is super cool and she's got a responsible job (even though many of her friends are layabouts and that's no longer attractive when you're pushing 30). I didn't mean to convey the whole breadth of hipster people out there. I was just talking about the ones I interact with. Sorry.

And I really, really love the guys at my record store, though most of them aren't hipsters. They're just plain music nerds.

no worries, clearly I just get worked up about this stuff. rob's pat on the back for your comment just tipped me over the edge I guess.

:o

[DipDipDive]

examples of what i meant. i'm glad to have played though... thanks for having me.

how did you's end by the way?

We both decided the other one wasn't good enough for us LOL.

[camo]

King of the hipsters. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mpJumHU-w)

He's not a hipster. He's me and freebaser! :D

[saz]

most hipsters dont listen to good music, though.

There you have it. This is my impression of hipsters. It can't just be some extreme coincidence that all the people in hipster clans are trendy and well dressed in that "I really want you to think I'm not trying" way, which leads me to believe that you have to have a certain "look" to hang with them, and that shit is so fucking lame. They come across as elitist and shallow. I don't dig.

i pretty much completely agree, except that i don't think they're well dressed at all. they look like they haven't washed their hair in months, all have beards, buy all of their clothes at thrift stores, with tight jeans which look like they're tapered at the bottom, and chuck taylor all-stars. and everything "sucks" except interpol and joy division. :rolleyes: anyways i see indie hipsters, scenesters or whatever everywhere. the whole thing is very generic and conformist.

[yeahwho]

Hipsters are a couple of clicks less pretentious/obnoxious than BBMB posters. We are still among the most hated by people.

[Bob]

Hipsters are a couple of clicks less pretentious/obnoxious than BBMB posters. We are still among the most hated by people.

use beastie-free folks are especially pretentious; the rest of the board apparently hates us. it's alright though, whatever makes them feel better about us being better than them

*listens to joy division*

[Yetra Flam]

I dont have any problem at all with how they dress or look or what music they listen to or whatever activities they engage in. That is absolutely a non issue for me. Shit, I listen to obscure music and I wear skinny jeans. The reason why myself, and possibly others have a general dislike for people that identify themselves with the hipster culture is the general attitute they have as people- the way they treat others around them. Myabe they are just meaner in Williamsburg. Your friends are probably not mean like that, Dorothy.

[checkyourprez]

use beastie-free folks are especially pretentious; the rest of the board apparently hates us. it's alright though, whatever makes them feel better about us being better than them

*listens to joy division*


not gonna lie, ive felt that for a while.

[Dorothy Wood]

I dont have any problem at all with how they dress or look or what music they listen to or whatever activities they engage in. That is absolutely a non issue for me. Shit, I listen to obscure music and I wear skinny jeans. The reason why myself, and possibly others have a general dislike for people that identify themselves with the hipster culture is the general attitute they have as people- the way they treat others around them. Myabe they are just meaner in Williamsburg. Your friends are probably not mean like that, Dorothy.


I just read this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/nyregion/08trustafarians.html) about williamsburg and parents pulling back the funding for the kids who want to live the hip new york lifestyle.
I didn't realize there were so many people living off their parents there.

I'm starting to understand the hate a little. I just don't agree that it needs to be or can be applied across the board.

I do know that a friend of mine moved to NYC for grad school (photography), and ended up moving back here because he got sick of the scene. He said that people don't want to be friends unless they can use you for something. and how if he went to class wearing something...anything different, people would ask him, "are you trying to bring back [insert item]" and he was like, "um, no, I just felt like wearing it".

he came back when he was almost finished to do a collaborative art show and was blown away by how friendly and nice and supportive everyone was, so he decided then and there to come back, even though he had been planning to make a life in new york. he finished school and came back right after graduating.

even still, I think new york made him meaner. ha.

[checkyourprez]

use beastie-free folks are especially pretentious; the rest of the board apparently hates us. it's alright though, whatever makes them feel better about us being better than them

*listens to joy division*

not gonna lie, ive felt that for a while.


i feel i must clarify. i agree with the first part. i feel most of this board is a bunch of pretentious hipsterish types. obvi its not judged by "clothes and music", more by tude and responses. the second part is whatever whatever to me.

[Audio.]

I just read this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/nyregion/08trustafarians.html) about williamsburg and parents pulling back the funding for the kids who want to live the hip new york lifestyle.
I didn't realize there were so many people living off their parents there.

I'm starting to understand the hate a little. I just don't agree that it needs to be or can be applied across the board.

I do know that a friend of mine moved to NYC for grad school (photography), and ended up moving back here because he got sick of the scene. He said that people don't want to be friends unless they can use you for something. and how if he went to class wearing something...anything different, people would ask him, "are you trying to bring back [insert item]" and he was like, "um, no, I just felt like wearing it".

he came back when he was almost finished to do a collaborative art show and was blown away by how friendly and nice and supportive everyone was, so he decided then and there to come back, even though he had been planning to make a life in new york. he finished school and came back right after graduating.

even still, I think new york made him meaner. ha.

No imagine those hipsters making your Solitude of Fortress their new living scene. I think you will understand little more why some complain about hipsters.

[Kid Presentable]

I'm pretty derisive of many groups of people, but I can generally get along with anyone. That said, I have little dain for people who act like they were born with their sense of style/taste in music/haircut.

[Audio.]

Saw these on a blog. pretty funny

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/myspacegirl/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/williamsburg/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/mortalkombat/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/wentz/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/scenequeen/scene.jpg

[Dorothy Wood]

Saw these on a blog. pretty funny

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/myspacegirl/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/williamsburg/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/mortalkombat/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/wentz/scene.jpg

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/scenequeen/scene.jpg

lol and :( @ the pete wentz fan. ha.

that hipster isn't even a hipster though, that looks like a sorority girl going to an 80's party.

or maybe these are what you guys think are hipsters?

...interesting.


anyway, I wore my "clarissa explains it all" shoes last night and received a compliment from a very hip lady acquaintance. my plan is working! muwhahahaha!

I would also like to point out that the most annoying and intrusive people at the bar were yuppies.

[NoFenders]

We were looking through old photos, and came across a bunch from when I lived on Southport. There were a lot of girls and guys in those pics that looked like they fit right in today's "Hipster" scene. That was 17 years ago. The Parliments are out, the glasses are on, really everything except the skin tight jeans and beards. So, I wonder if it's just the skin tight jeans that made the grunge look go hipster.