Head of Minuteman group M.A.D. arrested for double murder

[kaiser soze]

So it appears we have terrorists protecting our borders! This is the product of the xenophobic militarization of our nation. These fucks and and Blackwater (who conveniently changed their name to Xe after facing the heat for killing civilians in Iraq). This shit needs to stop - enabling right wing extremists who act out as violent vigilantes in the name of fighting off extremism and crime. If they knew something was wrong, why not call the authorities? What did they think when they killed a nine year old girl? Calling them fucking pieces of shit isn't even close to what I am feeling.

http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=10526106&nav=HMO5ZryK

TUCSON, AZ - Three people have been arrested in connection with last months deadly double homicide in Arivaca that left a nine-year-old and her father dead. One of the people arrested for the homicide is the National Executive Director of the Minuteman American Defense group (M.A.D.), a group known for patrolling the border, and is dedicated to "Defending America's Borders" according to their website -

[Burnout18]

Interesting, but why were did they initially break into the house? Was it because the husband was known to be involved in drugs(possible dealer), or were they junkies looking for drugs to do themselves.?

[RobMoney$]

this is a kaiser thread, where the world is exactly the way the left-wing media reports it.

Please don't bother wasting your time trying to apply reason and logic.

[yeahwho]

Whoever did the write up for News 4 (whatever the fuck that is) should be fired or told to go back to whatever that person did before pretending to know how to use a keyboard.

I haven't the slightest fucking clue as to what happened. I don't even fucking understand any of it.

Why is kaiser soze so mad?

They are known to patrol the border?

They are connected to a triple murder?

"If you look at her history closely, and you know what we know, she is at best a pyschopath," says Sheriff Dupnik referring to Forde during a press conference Friday.

Anyway I'm not too sure this makes any sense, who am I suppose to be mad at?

[YoungRemy]

does this have anything to do with the Minutemen or immigration issues? I'm curious, too, yeahwho...

Forde's organization is not directly connected to the more commonly known minutemen organization, Minutemen Civil Defense Corps or the Minutemen project run by Chris Simcox and James Gilchrist.

[RobMoney$]

I'm glad most people can see through fishing expeditions like this.

[saz]

well, this has nothing to do with unsubstantiated "left wing" media claims, but rather if you do apply logic and reason and do a little more digging, you will see that this has to do with someone in the anti-immigration movement who allegedly led a home invasion, which led to the murder of a man and his daughter, in order to secure money and drugs for an anti-illegal immigration operation.



Shawna Forde, Minutemen Leader, Arrested In Double Killing In Arizona

June 13, 2009 05:37 PM EST | Associated Press


TUCSON, Ariz. — Two of three people arrested in a southern Arizona home invasion that left a little girl and her father dead had connections to a Washington state anti-illegal immigration group that conducts border watch activities in Arizona.

Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnic of Pima County, Ariz.

The trio are alleged to have dressed as law enforcement officers and forced their way into a rural Arivaca home on May 30, wounding a woman and fatally shooting her husband and their 9-year-old daughter. Their motive was financial, Dupnic said.

"The husband who was murdered has a history of being involved in narcotics and there was an anticipation that there would be a considerable amount of cash at this location as well as the possibility of drugs," Dupnic said.

Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname "Gunny" and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site. She is from Everett, Wash., has recently been living in Arizona and was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

A statement attributed to officers of Forde's group and posted on its Web site on Saturday extended condolences to the victims' families and said the group doesn't condone such acts and will cooperate with law enforcement.

The assailants planned to leave no one alive, Dupnic said at a press conference in Tucson on Friday. He said Forde was the ringleader.

"This was a planned home invasion where the plan was to kill all the people inside this trailer so there would be no witnesses," Dupnic said. "To just kill a 9-year-old girl because she might be a potential witness to me is just one of the most despicable acts that I have heard of."

Dupnic said Forde continued working through Friday to raise a large amount of money to make her anti-illegal immigrant operation more sophisticated.

Forde denied involvement as she was led from sheriff's headquarters.

"No, I did not do it," she said. "I had nothing to do with it."

Gaxiola also denied involvement; Bush was arrested at a Kingman, Ariz., hospital where he was being treated for a leg wound he allegedly received when the woman who survived the attack managed to get a gun and fire back.

Killed were 9-year-old Brisenia Flores and her 29-year-old father, Raul Junior Flores. The name of the wounded woman who survived the attack hasn't been released.

Forde is well known in the anti-illegal immigration community, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino.

"She's someone who even within the anti-immigration movement has been labeled as unstable," Levin said. "She was basically forced out of another anti-immigrant group, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and then founded her own organization."

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On the Net:

Minuteman American Defense: http://minutemenamericandefense.org


link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/shawna-forde-minutemen-le_n_215246.html)

[kaiser soze]

I'm glad most people can see through fishing expeditions like this.

fishing?

Looks like murder to me rob

[yeahwho]

I'm still confused as to what I'm supposed to be pissed off about. I understand some people were killed, but what is the gist of all of this? The lady is a legitimate nutcase from right by my house up here in Washington State, I recognize the alley (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090117/NEWS01/701179771)way the article links up to.

She's mentally fucked up and doesn't actually represent anything. Except she uses some sort of loose association to the Minutemen.

I'm still puzzled by what the murder was for. Did they want drugs and money? Or was it hate? Or was it like so many senseless crimes of murder committed daily just some fucked up day where innocent people died?

What makes this any more outrageous than some soldier being killed in Iraq over a mistake?

[kaiser soze]

You don't have to be pissed off about anything. This is a crime that I find rather concerning. A person claiming to be a patriot "defending" our borders with their vigilante antics, the radicalization of our veterans, and the murder of an innocent child, do not sit well with me.

[yeahwho]

You don't have to be pissed off about anything. This is a crime that I find rather concerning. A person claiming to be a patriot "defending" our borders with their vigilante antics, the radicalization of our veterans, and the murder of an innocent child, do not sit well with me.

OK. I guess these sort of things happen, but the woman they arrested is even more insane than many of the maniacs already locked up for murder. The horrendous acts committed could of been blamed on anything, they chose to associate themselves with a particular group of morons and that was that.

It's really a story about mental illness is what I'm finding as I research the story. Mental illness is another whole can of worms. The recycling of the mentally insane. Morons typically embrace the mentally insane, groups which hate love easily led crazy folks. As far as the folks targeted, I'm still unclear as to what was the reason,

did they want the drugs and money?

did they want to stop the drugs from hitting the streets

did the victims come here illegally or were they US citizens?

is there any logic to this as far as those three items?

I think we have a mentally insane person who even morons were leery of, I'm still unsure of the motivation...

To get drugs and money or to stop drugs and money?

[yeahwho]

I'm not trying to be difficult, but the link, the story, all of it is fucked up in the comprehension department. MAD has probably 2 members, it's a spin off from a rejected crazy lady who lives up the block from me apparently.

[yeahwho]

Yeah, well, fuck it, the local paper has a writer who understands the situation and made the story comprehensible enough to understand.

Activist Shawna Forde charged in double slaying (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090613/NEWS01/706139922&news01ad=1#Activist.Shawna.Forde.charged.in.double .slaying)

The comments are pretty interesting, including one from her own relative which calls her out as a fucking wacko, plus this one which I found spot on... She seems adept enough at killing innocent people to make the force considering the other story on the local front page,

An Everett police officer shot a suspected drunken driver Wednesday. (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090613/NEWS01/706139924#Questions.linger.after.fatal.shooting.by .Everett.officer)