BBoys Nas collab. origin

[BMD]

I doubt anyone knows at this point but how do you think their collaboration came about? My guess is Nas heard they were working on a new album and wanted to work with them. What do you guys thinks?

[BeastieAlbum07]

They wanted to save hip hop.

Legends on the 'committee' to save the game couldn't hurt.

[BMD]

They wanted to save hip hop.

Legends on the 'committee' to save the game couldn't hurt.

Im not asking "why" they did it but how it came together.

[camo]

I heard that Adrock had to have one of his Parrots put down and since Nas is a well known Veterinarian amongst the Hip Hop community he went to see him and one thing led to another.

R.I.P Captain Jack.

[Brother McDuff]

I doubt anyone knows at this point but how do you think their collaboration came about? My guess is Nas heard they were working on a new album and wanted to work with them. What do you guys thinks?


I highly doubt Nas came to them suggesting the collabo.

[Rodie]

I highly doubt Nas came to them suggesting the collabo.

True I have to imagine it'd be the other way around.

[Jiberish]

I highly doubt Nas came to them suggesting the collabo.

I don't know. It's pretty well know that they have Oscope labs on Canal street in Manhattan. Maybe Nas just wanted to check out the studio, see what the Beastie Boys had going on. It's easy to forget because it's second nature to US [in this community] that they are awesome, but Beastie Boys are legends in the hip hop community. There aren't many MC's from the 90's era who wouldn't want to do a collaboration with them if they could.

Anytime you hear about Biz or Q-Tip collaborating w/ them it's spoken about very informally. Like they were in town and wanted to see what the Beastie Boys were up to. They heard music they liked and decided it'd be cool to do something over the beat.

I doubt it was anything more complicated than that w/ Nas. I am of course, talking out my left asshole. So argue away.

[side note] anybody notice when you type "Beastie" in here that little red squiggly line shows up informing you that you misspelled the word? Just thought that was funny.

[carlson.213]

06-17-2009 01:27 PMcamoI heard that Adrock had to have one of his Parrots put down and since Nas is a well known Veterinarian amongst the Hip Hop community he went to see him and one thing led to another.

R.I.P Captain Jack.


i saw them meet at a convention for people who "hate the fact that some people think random is funny". i was there

[BMD]

I would think Nas made the initiation simply for the fact that their callob history has been slim to none. They typically dont seek out guest emcees. I think Nas probably respects their old school hip hop longevity and maybe has wanted a chance to work with them. Thats just my theory.

[camo]

06-17-2009 01:27 PMcamoI heard that Adrock had to have one of his Parrots put down and since Nas is a well known Veterinarian amongst the Hip Hop community he went to see him and one thing led to another.

R.I.P Captain Jack.


i saw them meet at a convention for people who "hate the fact that some people think random is funny". i was there

Yeah I was next door in the convention for 'people who know how to use a message board'. Funnily enough I didn't see you there.

[Brother McDuff]

i guess the basis for my argument lies more in relativity. the few guest spots the beasties have had are people who were known bboy fans prior to the collab. plus, nas seems like he gravitates away from silly, humorous rapping styles. he's a pretty serious guy artistically, and it seems in his interviews his personality reciprocates that. And lastly, if Nas were to approach the beasties, I feel he would do so with more intention for his own album.

all in all, i tend to think the beasties would be more fans of nas than he would be of them, considering they have a sensitivity to a much broader range of different hip-hop and musical styles, while nas has devoutly followed that kinda gritty new york underworld style. i think its pretty likely that we'll get an explanation though via interview, considering its such a strange pairing. im sure nas or the bboys will be asked and address it sometime between now and the release.

[U-Stubs]

Actually, Nas has come to the bboys before to collab on their albums,but due to legalities of record companies,it didn't hash out. So yes, Nas actually wanted to collab on TT5B's Open letter to NYC as well as Jay-Z!! Now this info is coming straight from the source who is very close to the group.

[Rodie]

Actually, Nas has come to the bboys before to collab on their albums,but due to legalities of record companies,it didn't hash out. So yes, Nas actually wanted to collab on TT5B's Open letter to NYC as well as Jay-Z!! Now this info is coming straight from the source who is very close to the group.

Uh huh.

[cj hood]

someone called in a favor....

[Thunder D]

Nas needed the money for his divorce lawyer...

[MCScoobyT]

I guess the Beasties asked Nas since this song is kinda dissing the current state of Hip-Hop and Nas has spoken to this style of "step your game up" raps before on ‘Hip-Hop Is Dead’. Plus, if you’re going to do a track poking fun at the wackness of the state of current Hip-Hop, why not get Nas, he has never lost a battle.

I could see this cut becoming one that could be a guest remix, posse style cut, with other like minded rapper such as Talib, Q-Tip, Common, Busta, Mos, Lupe, Wale, etc. maybe even Jay-Z. It has the potential of making a splash on the Hip-Hop only radio stations.

Like I said before it reminds me of De La's 'Stakes Is High', hell they should do a remix with Plugs one, two and three!

[dave790]

it wouldn't surprise me if snoop popped up on the album. not that he's exactly been great for hip hop in recent years (an opinion) but didn't they want him on the mix up vocal thing? that and playing onstage in aus last year, there's a link which they could use.

[BeastieAlbum07]

it wouldn't surprise me if snoop popped up on the album. not that he's exactly been great for hip hop in recent years (an opinion) but didn't they want him on the mix up vocal thing? that and playing onstage in aus last year, there's a link which they could use.

I would love that. Imagine who else.

I've heard possible LL and others. Maybe this will be a hit album!

[Rodie]

I could give a damn if it's a hit, I just want it to be good.

[acamus]

fuck that punk noise. i want a hit album. who wouldn't?

[KevG]

I doubt anyone knows at this point but how do you think their collaboration came about? My guess is Nas heard they were working on a new album and wanted to work with them. What do you guys thinks?

Nas needed to make money...

[Brother McDuff]

I could give a damn if it's a hit, I just want it to be good.


yeppers. (y)

[Kid Presentable]

If it's full of collabs just for their own sake then it's going to seem like Crown Royal, and also it will confuse the fans who are already struggling with working out whether they like the Nas song or not.

Seriously though, when I heard 3 MCs with the original Snoop sample it was a pretty good moment. The nice thing about Too Many Rappers isn't just them rhyming together, we also get gnauze rapping over a Beastie Boys beat. Worth marinating on.

[easy 3]

I could see this cut becoming one that could be a guest remix, posse style cut, with other like minded rapper such as Talib, Q-Tip, Common, Busta, Mos, Lupe, Wale, etc. maybe even Jay-Z. It has the potential of making a splash on the Hip-Hop only radio stations.

Like I said before it reminds me of De La's 'Stakes Is High', hell they should do a remix with Plugs one, two and three!

- I prefer this line of thinking to the album full of collaborations idea. But I'm not sure this is the track to achieve that with or what MCs would be most appropriate? I generally find there's way too many watered-down collaborative efforts on Hip Hop albums over the past decade or so - Crown Royal being a good example of it going wrong, too many others just drag out the current flavour of the month MCs - there's no direction to the tracks or well-unified concepts to the overall album. I'd be kind of pleased if they pulled someone right right out of the left-field just to display their versatility and keep things interesting. Remember they've also collabo'd with Miho Hitori and that Eugene Gore dude with great success - I'm definitely keen to see what comes of the talk about Santigold.

One good track with a shit load of decent remixes and variations is more up my street - Like the Flavour in Ya Ear and Scenario remixes that just made great tracks that much heavier - there's plenty of good current hip hop artists that would do anything to land that sort of guest spot.

[MCScoobyT]

^The main reason Crown Royal sucked is because DMC was barely on it.

[camo]

^The main reason Crown Royal sucked is because DMC was barely on it.

Barely? He wasn't at all. They were old samples!

[milkboy009]

I could see this cut becoming one that could be a guest remix, posse style cut, with other like minded rapper such as Talib, Q-Tip, Common, Busta, Mos, Lupe, Wale, etc. maybe even Jay-Z. It has the potential of making a splash on the Hip-Hop only radio stations.

Like I said before it reminds me of De La's 'Stakes Is High', hell they should do a remix with Plugs one, two and three!

YEEEEEEAH, I LIKE YOUR THINKING! I could see it getting some play on Hot 97

[mathcart]

Like I said before it reminds me of De La's 'Stakes Is High', hell they should do a remix with Plugs one, two and three!

:eek:

so everyone's entitled to there opinions and everything but...

'Stakes', in my mind, is one of the greatest hip-hop songs I've ever heard. The lyrical sophistication especially in its metaphorical link between the desperate elements of society and the current state of music is unparalleled in both its excellence and its scale. Its practically the War & Peace of hip-hop. Not to mention the production- that track is so hot! Its got that stripped down intensity and grove of the best of the g-funk era with the in your face importance of PE at their most urgent and intense. And the sample at the end. Absolute. Genius. (imho)

And to bring it back on topic. I can't even tell if I like this new joint. It certainly is not one of the career achievement level songs in the catalog.

Sorry to have gotten my panties all in a bunch here. I'm not hattin'- the new songs not bad- it just doesn't remind me of 'Stakes' (or Sure Shot even) in its scale. Just saying...

sorry for droning on and on...

evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYw0NnHDRzc)

[Kid Presentable]

best of the g-funk era

I was following until you mentioned g-funk.

[U-Stubs]

Uh huh.

This is true indeed of the words from Cey! If you don't know who Cey is,check ya' facts my friend.

[Kid Presentable]

Is Cey short for Ceyline Deon?

[MCScoobyT]

Mattcart, your right 'Stakes' is genius.
The tone of 'Too Many Rappers' just reminded me of it, but ya, it is not as good as 'Stakes Is High'.

[Kid Presentable]

On other forums Too Many Rappers is just getting a little love on its own. On this one it is being compared to Stakes is High.

I wonder about this place sometimes.

[MCScoobyT]

What other forums?
AllHipHop.com didn't even call it by the right title.

[mathcart]

I was following until you mentioned g-funk.

Yeah I regreted saying it immediately. Its Dilla I know, but its definitely has a slowed down funk thing going on. I think I might be bad at using words...

[ClarenceAlabama]

I doubt anyone knows at this point but how do you think their collaboration came about? My guess is Nas heard they were working on a new album and wanted to work with them. What do you guys thinks?

Nas ex-wife Kelis is a huge Beastie Boys fan. She even gives them a shout out on her song "Keep it Down".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7DL68AUjzw&feature=related

[Extra Cheese]

does anyone remember how much time elapsed between the band doing "thats it, thats all" at the TFC and the album actually dropping? cuz the song got reworked and I'm kind of hoping too many rappers gets reworked.

[Kid Presentable]

Release date is September 15. I think it's more likely people will be tired of these songs by the time the album finally comes out.

Edit: What don't you like about it? I think it's solid.

[Extra Cheese]

i dont hate it, i really like nas and mike d's verses. but some of it is kind of weak

[Kid Presentable]

I like it. B-Boys in the Cut I can't figure out for the life of me.

[Extra Cheese]

i like bboys in the cut, dope cut

[cj hood]

here's to hoping that 'crack (break) a dawn' is only found in TMR on the record....

but then again...HSC is supposed to be a throw back to HN...

[Brother McDuff]

but then again...HSC is supposed to be a throw back to HN...


according to who? i'm confused...:o

[cj hood]

everybody's saying that HSC is the best since HN....but i do hope the reviewer's wrong when he said that the sure shot rant is used again.....