What if John McCain was the president?

[DroppinScience]

Salon.com's (http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/06/16/president_mccain/index.html) "What if?" article takes a look at what McCain may have done in his first six months in office if he had the chance instead of Obama.

Let's just say it's good this article is only a "What if?" article.

[kaiser soze]

wouldn't it be more like a What if Palin became president?

oh no

[DroppinScience]

wouldn't it be more like a What if Palin became president?

oh no

In other words, 30 days after the inauguration, McCain has fallen and he can't get back up so Palin has to take over? Good looooord.

[Dorothy Wood]

I started reading this, but then realized that political what ifs are a huge waste of time.

[RobMoney$]

I started reading this, but then realized that political what ifs are a huge waste of time.

TY

As the saying goes, "and if pigs had wings they would fly, but they don't."

[afronaut]

What the fuck is the point of that article? It's become very obvious to me lately that mainstream liberals are just as delusional, irrational, and fearmongering as neoconservatives.

[RobMoney$]

In other words, 30 days after the inauguration, McCain has fallen and he can't get back up so Palin has to take over? Good looooord.


Yes, this is really nice.
A fine example of intelligent debate.

If a personal remark anywhere close to this was made about Obama you'd all be screaming for someone to be banned.

[Documad]

I suspect that things would be pretty similar, except that the supreme court nominee would definitely be anti-choice instead of us not knowing but suspecting that maybe she's pro-choice.

Obama certainly hasn't come in and changed Bush policy on all the "liberal" issues like privacy and I don't believe that he'll get the troops out of Iraq any quicker than McCain.

Honestly, maybe the best part of McCain losing is that Palin isn't VP. It's difficult enough to watch the coverage of her now as a non-entity. If she were VP it would be even worse. Biden is easier to tune out.

By the way, I like having Hillary as Secretary of State. That's worked out really well.

[RobMoney$]

I use to think Biden was brighter than Palin. Now, I'm not so sure.
I find it disturbing that Biden said on Meet the Depressed that the administration and largely the Congress way overestimated the stimulus package and that instead of 3.5 million jobs created, now only 600,000.

How can they not have known how deep the recession was?
Unemployment is going up, not down. How can they claim to have "created" any jobs?
I guess I have to remember they didn't read the bill so no one really knew what it was going to do or not do before it was signed into law.

With everyday, he's making Sarah Palin look like a better choice.

[saz]

With everyday, he's making Sarah Palin look like a better choice.

lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg)

[RobMoney$]

This is your idea of someone who's "Presidential"? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOQGWfeQFP0)

[RobMoney$]

Is there nothing the guy won't do for a little self-promotion? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d82WKtGjJBA&feature=related)

[saz]

yes, i think he is presidential, he has a brilliant mind and has been working tirelessly over the last five decades or so in championing and protecting the rights of the american tax payer or consumer. he's also especially presidential when you take into consideration his instrumental role in ensuring the passing of the following legislation, ie his record:

◦Clean Air Act
◦Clean Water Act
◦Consumer credit disclosure law
◦Consumer Product Safety Act
◦Co-Op Bank Bill
◦Federal Coal Mine Health and Safety Act
◦Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
◦Freedom of Information Act
◦Funeral home cost disclosure law
◦Law establishing Environmental Protection Agency
◦Medical Devices safety
◦Mine Health and Safety Act
◦Mobile home safety
◦National Automobile and Highway Traffic Safety Act
◦National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
◦Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act
◦Nuclear power safety
◦Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA)
◦Pension protection law
◦Safe Water Drinking Act
◦Tire safety & grading disclosure law
◦Whistleblower Protection Act
◦Wholesome Meat Act
◦Wholesome Poultry Product Act


there's also the organizations he's founded or assisted starting:


◦American Antitrust Institute
◦Appleseed Foundation
◦Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest
◦Aviation Consumer Action Project
◦Buyers Up
◦Capitol Hill News Service
◦Center for Auto Safety
◦Center for Insurance Research
◦Center for Justice and Democracy
◦Center for Science in the Public Interest
◦Center for Study of Responsive Law
◦Center for Women Policy Studies
◦Citizen Action Group
◦Citizen Advocacy Center
◦Citizen Utility Boards
◦Citizen Works
◦Clean Water Action Project
◦Congress Project
◦Congress Watch
◦Connecticut Citizen Action Group
◦Corporate Accountability Research Group
◦Critical Mass Energy Project
◦Democracy Rising
◦Disability Rights Center
◦Equal Justice Foundation
◦Essential Information
◦FANS (Fight to Advance the Nation's Sports)
◦Foundation for Taxpayers and Consumer Rights
◦Freedom of Information Clearinghouse
◦Georgia Legal Watch
◦Global Trade Watch
◦Health Research Group
◦Litigation Group
◦Multinational Monitor
◦National Citizen's Coalition for Nursing Home Reform
◦National Coalition for Universities in the Public Interest
◦National Insurance Consumer Organization
◦Ohio Public Interest Action Group
◦Organization for Competitive Markets
◦Pension Rights Center
◦Princeton Project 55
◦PROD - truck safety
◦Public Citizen
◦Retired Professionals Action Group
◦Shafeek Nader Trust for the Community Interest
◦Student Public Interest Research Groups nationwide
◦Tax Reform Research Group
◦Telecommunications Research and Action Center
◦The Visitor's Center
◦Trial Lawyers for Public Justice


in regards to self-promotion, well, that's a rather superficial and even silly charge, as almost everyone who leads or is active in public life engages in self-promotion, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Dorothy Wood]

ralph nader rules, and that sesame street clip makes me think he rules even harder. end of story.

[DroppinScience]

Is there nothing the guy won't do for a little self-promotion? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d82WKtGjJBA&feature=related)

The dude partied in the Playboy Mansion back in the '70s. Between Sesame Street and Playboy, Nader is a class act! (y)

[RobMoney$]

Nader is the kind of guy that got stuffed into lockers a lot in HS.
He's the opposite of a leader.

I couldn't imagine how he'd handle things like the demonstrations in Iraq and the situation in N.Korea.
We'd be fucked.

[Bob]

Nader is the kind of guy that got stuffed into lockers a lot in HS.
He's the opposite of a leader.

I couldn't imagine how he'd handle things like the demonstrations in Iraq and the situation in N.Korea.
We'd be fucked.

I started reading this, but then realized that political what ifs are a huge waste of time.

[blaker23]

We would have bombed Iran and North Korea.

Other than that, all would be well.

[mikizee]

I started reading this, but then realized that political what ifs are a huge waste of time.

BOOM