double you tee eff????????

[Dorothy Wood]

mother fucker. I asked this dude who I think likes me if he wanted to make out and he was like, *tight hug* "I don't know".

and then I was like, "yeah, okay, I gotta go, bye" and jetted. then he texted me saying, "you are so sweet, you like made my day". and I said, "ugh".



:mad:

[Bob]

he's probably gay. you should get tested

[ms.peachy]

Dorothy my love... please go back and re-read your first post of the "he's just not that into me" thread, and then come back and read your first post in this one, and tell me if you notice anything.

[russhie]

you asked him to make out?

[kaiser soze]

your tonsil stones got in the way

[paul jones]

don't ask next time,just thrust that tongue down his throat.best way.

If they fight you off then leave it but err yeah(y)

[Dorothy Wood]

Dorothy my love... please go back and re-read your first post of the "he's just not that into me" thread, and then come back and read your first post in this one, and tell me if you notice anything.


I didn't go back and re-read, but is it the running away part?

or the pathetic loser bit?


ah well, I'm not too upset about the whole thing. I almost feel relieved that he knows that I'm sexually attracted to him.

I guess I just thought I had a shot, because earlier he was going to go onstage to play a couple songs with a band, I was backstage and gave him a hug for good luck. and I kissed him on the cheek because I was wearing red lipstick and I thought it'd be funny to give him some smooch marks. and anyway, he hugged me pretty tight and seemed...I don't know, receptive. whatever.

[Helvete]

Men are assholes, women are bitches. What's the problem here?

[ms.peachy]

I didn't go back and re-read, but is it the running away part?

or the pathetic loser bit?


ah well, I'm not too upset about the whole thing. I almost feel relieved that he knows that I'm sexually attracted to him.

I guess I just thought I had a shot, because earlier he was going to go onstage to play a couple songs with a band, I was backstage and gave him a hug for good luck. and I kissed him on the cheek because I was wearing red lipstick and I thought it'd be funny to give him some smooch marks. and anyway, he hugged me pretty tight and seemed...I don't know, receptive. whatever.

My point was, what this guy just did to you, and the way you felt after? Same thing you did to that other guy, and how he probably felt. You see?

[funk63]

Lol, who turns down a makeout?

[Dorothy Wood]

My point was, what this guy just did to you, and the way you felt after? Same thing you did to that other guy, and how he probably felt. You see?

wait, what guy? the guy I made out with? at least I made out with him. or the guy who made me dinner? because if it's dinner guy, it's the same guy as this guy.


you know, I was pretty hopped up on sparks last night, this really wasn't that big of a WTF, I was just being a drama queen. I feel kinda bad about writing "ugh" back to his text, but that's just what I'm like...that is, blunt. or not polite. or rude. blah, I'm just used to getting a "yes" instead of an "I don't know" when I get the nerve to ask, because I'm usually fairly certain that the gentleman would be into it.

*sigh*

I just felt like a dumb ass, his response was perfectly normal. and truly, he didn't appear grossed out, he seemed really flattered. and I guess he was since I "made his day". :rolleyes:

[Dorothy Wood]

okay, so nobody probably cares, I just thought I'd log an update. dude just called and left a message reiterating that he was super flattered and that it made him happy all day today...but that we're friends and we probably shouldn't, but we can talk about it, he wants me to call him, etc.


AGH. what a mess. I hate how now that I'm old and my guy friends are old, everything's all serious, or has serious consequences. whatever happened to just rolling around for a night and then being like, "ha ha, that was fun" and then that's it, you just go back to normal? now it's like, "oh no, now we have date and get married if we kiss." :mad:

otherwise...I guess I'm flattered that he's flattered. :/

[Helvete]

Whore.

[Bob]

perhaps he has feelings for you

[Dorothy Wood]

Whore.

I wish! I could really use some extra cash.

perhaps he has feelings for you

that would be preposterous and totally gay.

[Bob]

at any rate you definitely shouldn't make out with him

[paul jones]

at any rate you definitely shouldn't make out with him

don't you know...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKr2n-9p7WM

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah, so I talked to him and everything's fine. I told him not to make a big deal out of it and that I was just being silly. and he said, "well, it was really nice of you", and I was like, "um, okay." and he told me not to feel embarrassed or bad. :rolleyes:

he was going to some show and had to get off the phone, but was all, "you should come down here, it's going to be really fun." and I was like, "hmm, no thanks, you have fun."

he is a strange man. like I'm gonna get on my bike and ride clear across town on short notice to hang out with someone who rejected me and seems to think I want to date him because I asked him to make out. ugh.


I'm going to go bro out with some bros and play cards. f that other noise. talk to my hand!

[ms.peachy]

wait, what guy? the guy I made out with? at least I made out with him. or the guy who made me dinner? because if it's dinner guy, it's the same guy as this guy.


Oh for fuck's sake. Do you really need it spelled out for you? OK then:

I am confused, I had a date last week that went pretty well and the dude seemed to like me a whole lot. I was kinda "meh", but he made me laugh and we made out, kept our clothes on, he said I smelled good and was a "hell of a kisser", whatevs. Anyway, he was all, "omg, I want to see you again". and I was like, "yeah, okay, sure", but we didn't make any plans. then when he left he was like, "call me or text or email me this week if you wanna hang out", and I was like, "yeah, I'm not very good at that, so you can go ahead".


mother fucker. I asked this dude who I think likes me if he wanted to make out and he was like, *tight hug* "I don't know".


Are you really not getting this?

[Dorothy Wood]

well, I don't think it's the same situation. I was affectionate with the date guy, if me being honest about my lack of communication skills is what killed it, then that's lame. I mean, we spooned for pete's sake! if that doesn't say, "I like you" then what does? it was a first date, and I'm the one who asked him out. it's not my fault he ratcheted up the intensity. I wasn't ready.



in other news, the bros I am getting ready to hang out with are now asking me to go to the very same show that dude invited me to! what the flying fuck?

[TurdBerglar]

you care too damn much


you just need to chill

[kaiser soze]

I've wondered why she takes it so personal when she only wants something casual

I think it is more about control

and cheese puffs

[Bob]

well, I don't think it's the same situation. I was affectionate with the date guy, if me being honest about my lack of communication skills is what killed it, then that's lame. I mean, we spooned for pete's sake! if that doesn't say, "I like you" then what does? it was a first date, and I'm the one who asked him out. it's not my fault he ratcheted up the intensity. I wasn't ready.

but...you spooned him...that says you like him...?

does attempting to make plans to hang out again in the future count as "racheting up the intensity"? if this guy was confused i'm sympathetic to him

[yeahwho]

Lol, who turns down a makeout?

You mean Ill oh ill, who turns down a makeout?

Don't you?

[Dorothy Wood]

I'm cool as a cucumber in real life. my inner squealing teenage girl just comes out on here. sorry everyone.

alright well, I guess I'm going to this show. with 4 dudes. I rule.

[Dorothy Wood]

but...you spooned him...that says you like him...?

does attempting to make plans to hang out again in the future count as "racheting up the intensity"? if this guy was confused i'm sympathetic to him

no no, he ratcheted up the intensity by inviting himself back to my place. then proceeding to tell me he really liked me and wanted to kiss me. and then we tried to watch a movie, but all he wanted to do was make out. and me being old and slutty and usually only hooking up with people I already know, when that starts happening, it usually leads to more than is probably appropriate for a first date. like hand jobs.

so then I felt kinda weird about moving so fast and maybe he did too, and maybe he thought I felt bad...I don't know. it's dumb to feel bad though. we both wanted some action, and we got it.

I don't know, he was a few years younger than me and lives in a neighborhood that isn't so easy to get to. maybe he decided I was too old and too far away for the trouble. meh.

[Dorothy Wood]

I've wondered why she takes it so personal when she only wants something casual

I think it is more about control

and cheese puffs


it is about control, you're right. not cheese puffs though, I don't like those very much.

I'm kind of messed up, obviously. I'm actually pretty normal and fun though, just had a lot of bad stuff happen in my life in the past and therefore have trouble trusting people. and so far, I have been right in not trusting people. because human beings are awful and self-centered for the most part. including me.

[kaiser soze]

I don't think you'll break the cycle by setting yourself up for failure. Convincing yourself that "playing it safe" by playing around is going to keep you safe won't happen. Eventually you'll be on the receiving end again and someone who you shouldn't trust will trick you, use you, and fuck you over again.

If I were you, keep an eye over your shoulder and invest in meaningful connections, reaching out for these seemingly "playful" moments will only expose you further. You may act like you're guarded against this, but it proves by the way that you react to rejection (even from a little make-out rejection) really burns your ego.

You're gonna fail at finding any kind of real love in the future if you continue to condition your mind that this is the best way to go about meeting your intimate needs.

[ms.peachy]

well, I don't think it's the same situation.

Oh, OK then.

[Dorothy Wood]

I don't think you'll break the cycle by setting yourself up for failure. Convincing yourself that "playing it safe" by playing around is going to keep you safe won't happen. Eventually you'll be on the receiving end again and someone who you shouldn't trust will trick you, use you, and fuck you over again.

If I were you, keep an eye over your shoulder and invest in meaningful connections, reaching out for these seemingly "playful" moments will only expose you further. You may act like you're guarded against this, but it proves by the way that you react to rejection (even from a little make-out rejection) really burns your ego.

You're gonna fail at finding any kind of real love in the future if you continue to condition your mind that this is the best way to go about meeting your intimate needs.

listen, I appreciate the free therapy, but I'm not talking about people fucking me over in relationships. I'm talking about having an abusive addict for a father and pedophile for a step father. and all the shit that my mom went through at the hands of men from birth to 7 years ago. all of which affects me, no matter if I want it to or not. I like to be in control because I don't want anyone to control/shape/destroy my life but me.


Oh, OK then.

yeah well, it's not the same. and I wasn't that hurt by it, just had my ego bruised. and I'm not going to not talk to the dude again, he is my friend and I see him all the time.



I just want people to be straightforward. honestly, I talked to my guy friends about the date guy and the makeout guy last night and they thought I was being totally normal and that the dudes were weird. and then I went home with one of my friends and we did it 3 times and it ruled. all I said was, "can I stay over at your place?" and he said, "yup". no games, no drama. we woke up and did it again and then laid on the couch, watched golf, and made fun of each other. then like a gentleman, he drove me home because I have a picnic to attend.

after my nap.

[RobMoney$]

Oh, OK then.


Why bother, Peachy?
She isn't looking for advice, she's just looking for validation.

[Dorothy Wood]

validation:
In psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology) and human communication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_communication), validation is the reciprocated communication of respect which communicates that the other's opinions are acknowledged, respected, heard, and (regardless whether or not the listener actually agrees with the content), they are being treated with genuine respect as a legitimate expression of their feelings, rather than marginalized or dismissed.



why yes, I am looking for that.

[b i o n i c]

no offense, or offense.. whichever you want.. but you need to respect dudes if you want to be respected. say what you want, but you don't. im not sure about you, but some people have a hard time with that because they feel that respecting someone means putting themselves on a lower level. it doesn't. and double no offense, but you do seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about men in general.

and as long as you play these games, any 'respect' you get will be just as temporary and conditional as what you give.

and yeah the validation thing, but people generally grow out of that. dont be mad.

*buuuuuuurp*

[RobMoney$]

It's not your fault, Will.

[Dorothy Wood]

no offense, or offense.. whichever you want.. but you need to respect dudes if you want to be respected. say what you want, but you don't. im not sure about you, but some people have a hard time with that because they feel that respecting someone means putting themselves on a lower level. it doesn't. and double no offense, but you do seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about men in general.

and as long as you play these games, any 'respect' you get will be just as temporary and conditional as what you give.

and yeah the validation thing, but people generally grow out of that. dont be mad.

*buuuuuuurp*


oh, I totally have a chip on my shoulder, I realize that. but really guys, geez, this is a drunk thread. I didn't know I'd be psychoanalyzed. I'm just making conversation.

if it makes anybody understand my situation better, my mom (who studies autism and works with autistic children) and my therapist friend think I might have asperger's. because of my trouble with empathy, among other things. and I'm a synesthete (of the number form variety) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#Number_form_synesthesia), which some people with asperger's demonstrate. another common behavior is to be easily upset by uncertainty. which would explain my strong reactions to things that don't follow the logical course I had imagined.

I haven't gone to a doctor or anything, so I don't really know. I just know that it would explain certain things about how I process information and why I am socially odd.

[Documad]

About once a week now, I hear someone saying that one of their adult family members is boardline aspergers. Three days ago it was a woman who works with me. Why is it trendy all of a sudden?

EDIT -- also, every other person I know now has a family member who can't work for medical reasons that preclude work but don't preclude other time-consuming things. They have some kind of disease or condition that causes them pain all the time. What's with that?

[kaiser soze]

You do not have Aspergers

You are exceptionally social and communicative, two things people with Aspergers have much difficulty with. If you had Apspergers with an intensely abusive past you'd probably be catatonic around any man.

[Dorothy Wood]

About once a week now, I hear someone saying that one of their adult family members is boardline aspergers. Three days ago it was a woman who works with me. Why is it trendy all of a sudden?

EDIT -- also, every other person I know now has a family member who can't work for medical reasons that preclude work but don't preclude other time-consuming things. They have some kind of disease or condition that causes them pain all the time. What's with that?


it does seem trendy, I first heard about it on a random episode of Becker that I accidentally watched like 5 years ago. they made a big joke out of "ass burgers". after that I started noticing more people talking about it, with a significant ramp up in the last couple of years. I think it's just because autism is becoming a popular topic of discussion and people want to be able to have a label to put on stuff that is out of the ordinary. and some people just want to be part of something I guess.

I think that some people's brains are just wired differently. I mean, I didn't even know I was a synesthete until recently. I thought that everyone involuntarily imagined numbers and dates in 3 dimensional space. Reading about synesthesia helps explain why I am skilled in math, spatial relations, mechanical reasoning and art, but have difficulty focusing on and understanding concepts that my brain can't turn into a visualization. and this knowledge helps me focus more on my strengths and to understand how to cope better with my weaknesses.


as for the asperger's, I wouldn't say I have it, but I identify with some of the symptoms. especially when I read about teens with it.

from webmd (I know, I know, I'm self-diagnosing)
Your teen with Asperger's syndrome (like other teens) will want friends but may feel shy or intimidated when approaching other teens. He or she may feel "different" from others. Although most teens place emphasis on being and looking "cool," teens with Asperger's may find it frustrating and emotionally draining to try to fit in. They may be immature for their age and be naive and too trusting, which can lead to teasing and bullying.

All of these difficulties can cause teens with Asperger's to become withdrawn and socially isolated and to have depression or anxiety.

But some teens with Asperger's syndrome are able to make and keep a few close friends through the school years. Some of the classic Asperger's traits may also work to the benefit of your teen. Teens with Asperger's are typically uninterested in following social norms, fads, or conventional thinking, allowing creative thinking and the pursuit of original interests and goals. Their preference for rules and honesty may lead them to excel in the classroom and as citizens.

That was exactly me in high school. I was completely incapable of fitting in socially. When I actually tried to fit in, it was painfully hard and I eventually lost interest. My favorite people to talk to were my science teachers. I had no actual friends, only people who kind of tolerated me because I dressed different, had a lot of neat shoes, and played sports. I used to write down what I wore everyday in a planner, so that I wouldn't repeat an outfit within a 2 week time span. I also had a rule for myself that I couldn't wear the same pair of shoes two days in a row, and not more than 3 times in a week. oh yeah, I also used to pack and eat the same lunch every single day with little variation. sandwich: wheat bread, 3 thin slices of turkey lunch meat with no condiments; apple or pear or strawberry yogurt; 4 baby carrots; can of coke.


I mean, I could go on, but this is probably getting boring. (uh oh, did I just exhibit empathy? FUCK)

[Bob]

aspergers is very easy to diagnose because the symptoms are sort vague and fuzzy such that anyone who has issues interacting with people can look it up on wikipedia and say "hey i think i might have this"

[ms.peachy]

Here's an idea: see a doctor.

[Videodrome]

aspergers is very easy to diagnose because the symptoms are sort vague and fuzzy such that anyone who has issues interacting with people can look it up on wikipedia and say "hey i think i might have this"


didn't you do that once?

[Documad]

Remember the girl on America's Next Top Model who had Asbergers? Tyra is so cutting edge.

Many smart people are socially awkward and we get goofier as we get middle aged. I think that's why my friends are throwing the label around. Most of my friends don't know much about autism.

[Bob]

didn't you do that once?

no, social anxiety disorder

[RobMoney$]

OK seriously, Dorothy hon,
just stop.

[Dorothy Wood]

You do not have Aspergers

You are exceptionally social and communicative, two things people with Aspergers have much difficulty with. If you had Apspergers with an intensely abusive past you'd probably be catatonic around any man.


You only see my words, you don't know me. I am incredibly awkward, and have only recently started to get over it via mimicry. I've been paying attention in the last few years to how friendly people interact and then try to copy what they do in order to simulate a friendliness that does not come naturally to me. sometimes this results in stuttering because I am thinking too hard about what I should be saying.

of course this all goes out the window when I am around people I am comfortable with. or when I'm drunk. I can be charming as fuck when I'm drunk AND comfortable. and actually, the older I get, the easier it is to utilize the charm when I'm sober, though it is still exhausting.

also, I was not abused, sorry if my wording before indicated that. I was witness to my mother's and my childhood best friend's abuse. not everybody that was abused or grew up around abuse turns catatonic. frankly, I find that incredibly insulting.

[Dorothy Wood]

Here's an idea: see a doctor.

wow, China's sure turned you bitchy.

I have seen doctors in years past. they said I have mild clinical depression. asperger's wasn't popular back then, so nobody brought it up I guess. and honestly, I never felt like any psychotherapist or psychologist ever really understood where I was coming from anyway.


I've gotten more help in understanding myself through talking to my good friend who's a licensed therapist and works with incarcerated adolescents. She likes to throw the idea out there that I might have asperger's because she is fascinated with my behavior and my history and wants to find a way to describe why I am the way I am...why anybody is the way they are, really...so she can help everyone feel better about themselves. ultimately she believes that my brain produces less seratonin than average because of childhood trauma and isolation. something about my brain adapting itself to exist on less seratonin than normal which therefore altered my brain chemistry. yadda yadda.

obviously it's a variety of things and I probably don't need to be sitting here trying to convince you guys that I'm a weirdo. I brought up the asperger's thing because I was trying to liken my behavior to something tangible.

[ms.peachy]

wow, China's sure turned you bitchy.


I said that because you explicitly said you hadn't seen a doctor. Now you're saying you have seen doctors.

At the end of the day, you are happy with yourself, or you are not. I don't think you are. My suggestion is, stop looking around for labels to put on why that is, and instead get on with the real (and scary) work of having your life be different, if you want it to be.

[Dorothy Wood]

I said that because you explicitly said you hadn't seen a doctor. Now you're saying you have seen doctors.

At the end of the day, you are happy with yourself, or you are not. I don't think you are. My suggestion is, stop looking around for labels to put on why that is, and instead get on with the real (and scary) work of having your life be different, if you want it to be.


you know, I think you're a cool lady, life for you has gotten hard at times and you dealt with it admirably. but I also know that you're well off and have a lovely child and a loving husband, and as far as I can tell from what you've said over the years, you've been attractive and socially adept your whole life. so it's a little hard for me to read your advice with out feeling patronized.

years ago, I saw doctors about the symptoms of my depression, I never saw anybody who delved too deeply into the causes of my depression. what I meant to say is that someone might've been more interested in investigating possible asperger's syndrome if it had been trendy at the time. I stopped going to therapy because I wanted scientific reasons and cures for my depression, and all I ever got was hippie bullshit. I like reasons and answers, which is why I search for labels. they may not count as reasons, but they help me get closer to finding them (even though, I concede, they might not exist in concrete terms).


anyway, I am talking too much about this. I find it pretty fascinating, and I'm basically just entertaining myself. I'm learning about some of you guys too, by your reactions which're pretty interesting/entertaining. I guess I feel like some of you are misunderstanding me, so I'm trying to be understood and it's not working very well. :/

[b i o n i c]

slap in the face, pat on the back

[RobMoney$]

I'm learning about some of you guys

The feeling is mutual.

[Planetary]

Dorothy, on a serious note, how old are you? and how old are these men?

[Fern]

PEOPLE ASK IF YOU WANNA MAKE OUT??? :confused:

FACE RAPE!!!!!

[yeahwho]

Has anyone tried one of those new big ass burgers at McDonalds yet?

[Nuzzolese]

Did you ever consider that guys have feelings too, and they're not all just out for casual sex without consequences? If that's all you want from them (and it seems to be the case, what with you impatiently complaining about having to do all kinds of talking and understanding and waiting around before you can get to the making out part) then stop fucking around with the nice guys.

But, I've got to say, I'm envious of you, too. You're like a femme fatale, and a succubus. I pity the nice guys in your path. You slash their cheeks staining them blood red with your kiss then barely have the time to brush them off with a few clicks of a text message before sinking your teeth into your next victim. I always wanted to be one of those awful, devilish, seductresses that men write songs about - breaking hearts and immasculating guys and leading them around.

[Dorothy Wood]

Dorothy, on a serious note, how old are you? and how old are these men?

14, 37

Has anyone tried one of those new big ass burgers at McDonalds yet?

yes! yesterday! weird, I haven't eaten at mcdonalds in months. it wasn't very good.

Did you ever consider that guys have feelings too, and they're not all just out for casual sex without consequences? If that's all you want from them (and it seems to be the case, what with you impatiently complaining about having to do all kinds of talking and understanding and waiting around before you can get to the making out part) then stop fucking around with the nice guys.

But, I've got to say, I'm envious of you, too. You're like a femme fatale, and a succubus. I pity the nice guys in your path. You slash their cheeks staining them blood red with your kiss then barely have the time to brush them off with a few clicks of a text message before sinking your teeth into your next victim. I always wanted to be one of those awful, devilish, seductresses that men write songs about - breaking hearts and immasculating guys and leading them around.

hahaha! ah geez, I think maybe I've spoken too plainly for brevity's sake in the past and now you all have formed assumptions that have grown into a character that is not me.

I do want a loving relationship, but I think it's completely normal to fool around with people in the meantime. the guy that turned me down probably respects our friendship and is too nice and strange to cope with no strings. he just took my offer to mean that I was asking him out or something, asking if he wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend...and that was surprising to me.

the bottom line is that I get upset when things don't go the way I think they should. I have a bad habit of planning out everything, what I'm going to say, what the person is going to say...and if my plan fails, I get upset. that's really all this is.

see, now, with the friend I hooked up with saturday night...I knew it would be easy, even though we hadn't slept together in probably 2 years. we have great affection for each other, dare I say, we love each other, so it's not just cheap sex. and he always follows up, he doesn't act weird around me when I see him again. we should probably just get get one of those open marriages. I'll ask him tomorrow. I could trick him into thinking I'm pregnant! yes, this is a great plan.

[Planetary]

such a loser

[Dorothy Wood]

such a loser

no way! do losers get laid and then play mini golf and arcade games the next day? I don't think so! there were milkshakes involved!

[Planetary]

no way! do losers get laid and then play mini golf and arcade games the next day?

yeah pretty much.

[funk63]

Has anyone tried one of those new big ass burgers at McDonalds yet?

Hell yeah, It made the veins in my arm hurt, felt like I was going to die.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

over analyzing.

That's a trend I notice with women (I'm guilty of it, or was, in the past).

I suppose if all you are looking for is a romp, that's one thing. In which case: be straight forward. Don't beat around the bush. All you are going to do is torture yourself wondering if the guy is willing.

However, don't be forward or even mention it if it's with someone that you think it might end up being awkward with if they aren't interested/can't handle being friends after doing something like that.

You are a female... it is so easy for us to find a romp. Don't make it in to something that will ruin a friendship when you can easily just go find a hot dude elsewhere that will be down to do it and be cool about it after.

If you are looking for more than JUST a romp, it will never be like pulling teeth with someone that is in to you. If it is, then he's "just not that into you". Which is fine, but why bother with a dude that isn't really in to you?

Move on. Plenty of other hot dudes out there that will not only want to squeeze your bottom, but that want to hang out, rock out, and have long insightful talks about life with you, too.

Or something like that.

[Randetica]

yeah pretty much.

lol

[Dorothy Wood]

over analyzing.

That's a trend I notice with women (I'm guilty of it, or was, in the past).

I suppose if all you are looking for is a romp, that's one thing. In which case: be straight forward. Don't beat around the bush. All you are going to do is torture yourself wondering if the guy is willing.

However, don't be forward or even mention it if it's with someone that you think it might end up being awkward with if they aren't interested/can't handle being friends after doing something like that.

You are a female... it is so easy for us to find a romp. Don't make it in to something that will ruin a friendship when you can easily just go find a hot dude elsewhere that will be down to do it and be cool about it after.

If you are looking for more than JUST a romp, it will never be like pulling teeth with someone that is in to you. If it is, then he's "just not that into you". Which is fine, but why bother with a dude that isn't really in to you?

Move on. Plenty of other hot dudes out there that will not only want to squeeze your bottom, but that want to hang out, rock out, and have long insightful talks about life with you, too.

Or something like that.


this all sounds very sensible. I really don't feel too rejected, I was just annoyed. It was a dumb thing to do, but I am pretty thankful that I did it because now the bubble has burst and I can move on. I mean, we're co-presidents of an organization (puggle breeding), and emailing each other right now about business stuff (money laundering) and it's totally normal.

This situation has also made me realize who my real friends are and how I need to make time for them and put forth more effort into hanging out with them. I hardly ever see the boys I hung out with on saturday. we sat around watching bad t.v. for an hour or so before going out and were just cracking jokes and having a grand time. when I first got there, they wouldn't let me in until golden girls was over, which was fucking hilarious. when I got inside I was like, "ha ha, you guys love old ladies". they said "nuh uh", and that they started watching it "accidentally", heh. anyway, I had more fun than I've had in awhile.

[kaiser soze]

dorothy you are desperate

desperate for attention, legitimacy, intimacy, respect, dibs on chips, a label, desperate for something which you have no idea.

You do not have Aspergers, and it is quite insulting to those who have it that you are going to self-diagnose yourself with it and play it off for an excuse or milk it for attention.

If you want it, go see a neurologist and find out if you do.

I guarantee most with Aspergers would not have the inclination to post their intimate follies on an internet board

anyways, not all guys are into you....with or without aspergers

[Videodrome]

you guys are dicks.

[kaiser soze]

not really

[cubsfirstplace]

dorothy you are desperate

desperate for attention, legitimacy, intimacy, respect, dibs on chips, a label, desperate for something which you have no idea.

You do not have Aspergers, and it is quite insulting to those who have it that you are going to self-diagnose yourself with it and play it off for an excuse or milk it for attention.

If you want it, go see a neurologist and find out if you do.

I guarantee most with Aspergers would not have the inclination to post their intimate follies on an internet board

anyways, not all guys are into you....with or without aspergers

i'm sensing some negative energy coming from you.

[kaiser soze]

yeah, I might sound it but in actuality I like Dorothy. I fear she is a bit misguided and too busy finding purpose in all the wrong places.

I'm sure many of the regulars on here have rolled their eyes at one of her many WTF the boy did what! type of posts and many have also given her sound and silly advise.

This is what I have gathered when she posts about how awesome one guy is and moans how another guy sloughs her off and maybe she should go back to guy A because guy B just didn't add up to what guy C did for last week....oh and guy D is dead to her because he didn't respond to her text at 2am last night. No LOL

I don't think she has any mental disabilities but she does have some sincere pains of the heart

[Documad]

i'm sensing some negative energy coming from you.

Yeah, people are venting at her for no good reason. I enjoy her breezy threads.

[Dorothy Wood]

dorothy you are desperate

desperate for attention, legitimacy, intimacy, respect, dibs on chips, a label, desperate for something which you have no idea.

this I will not deny. I am interested in finding out why. so far all you have to offer is judgement without reasoning.


You do not have Aspergers, and it is quite insulting to those who have it that you are going to self-diagnose yourself with it and play it off for an excuse or milk it for attention.

remember that you're not a doctor either. I only said that I have been "accused" of having asperger's by people who have studied autism. if you'll look at the quotes I've posted below my responses to your quote, you will see that I in no way claimed to definitely have asperger's, only that I identify with some of the symptoms. and it's completely possible, nay, plausible that my abnormal brain chemistry (whether altered through trauma or inherited) is somewhat if not mostly responsible for the social inabilities I have demonstrated since I was a very young child.


I guarantee most with Aspergers would not have the inclination to post their intimate follies on an internet board

I beg to differ (http://www.wrongplanet.net/forum6.html)



anyways, not all guys are into you....with or without aspergers

believe me, I know. again, I only seek information and understanding by discussing asperger's. I'm just trying to investigate why I am the way I am so I can better cope with my shortcomings and understand why certain things make me more upset than they logically should.

It also helps me understand my past and my family's past, ultimately so I can avoid or cushion certain pitfalls when and if I have my own children. my mother's father was an alcoholic, and so painfully shy that at his own funeral, the handful of coworkers there that he had worked with at a factory for 25 years had no idea he had 5 children or a grandchild (me, I was his first, and only 1 year old when he died). clinical depression, alcoholism, and sociopathy run on both sides of my family, as does high intelligence. my father is a member of mensa, yet never went to school beyond the 10th grade.

all I want to know is why people are super capable in certain areas and incapable in others. this goes for anyone. it's all very fascinating to me. and if you think I'm trying to impress anyone, I'm not, I'm literally talking to myself right now; trying to collect clues, and trying to understand where everyone else is coming from at the same time...as it's confusing to me that this thread would induce such vitriol.

:confused:














I think that some people's brains are just wired differently. I mean, I didn't even know I was a synesthete until recently. I thought that everyone involuntarily imagined numbers and dates in 3 dimensional space. Reading about synesthesia helps explain why I am skilled in math, spatial relations, mechanical reasoning and art, but have difficulty focusing on and understanding concepts that my brain can't turn into a visualization. and this knowledge helps me focus more on my strengths and to understand how to cope better with my weaknesses.


as for the asperger's, I wouldn't say I have it, but I identify with some of the symptoms. especially when I read about teens with it.





I've gotten more help in understanding myself through talking to my good friend who's a licensed therapist and works with incarcerated adolescents. She likes to throw the idea out there that I might have asperger's because she is fascinated with my behavior and my history and wants to find a way to describe why I am the way I am...why anybody is the way they are, really...so she can help everyone feel better about themselves. ultimately she believes that my brain produces less seratonin than average because of childhood trauma and isolation. something about my brain adapting itself to exist on less seratonin than normal which therefore altered my brain chemistry. yadda yadda.

obviously it's a variety of things and I probably don't need to be sitting here trying to convince you guys that I'm a weirdo. I brought up the asperger's thing because I was trying to liken my behavior to something tangible.

[paul jones]

you guys are dicks.

that would be the first thing I'd say if I walked into a room full of men called Richard

[Bob]

that would be the first thing I'd say if I walked into a room full of men called Richard

don't ever change

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah, I might sound it but in actuality I like Dorothy. I fear she is a bit misguided and too busy finding purpose in all the wrong places.

I'm sure many of the regulars on here have rolled their eyes at one of her many WTF the boy did what! type of posts and many have also given her sound and silly advise.

This is what I have gathered when she posts about how awesome one guy is and moans how another guy sloughs her off and maybe she should go back to guy A because guy B just didn't add up to what guy C did for last week....oh and guy D is dead to her because he didn't respond to her text at 2am last night. No LOL

I don't think she has any mental disabilities but she does have some sincere pains of the heart


I think you think you're smarter than you are.

[Planetary]

kiss my ass burgers

[Kid Presentable]

Keep on, Dotty. I like how her threads never devolve into anus talk.