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cuddleparty
07-22-2009, 09:24 PM
Ok.. I hear Adam has parotid cancer and I'm a total nerd.. I had to sign up here because I want my message to him to be heard..
ADAM! Listen UP!

I had the same type of cancer about 9 years ago - I was 23 years old at the time. I had a tumor in my right sub-mandibular... I always feel very smart when I say that. lol!
I had never heard of parotid cancer until a few years previous to my own ordeal. My Mom was diagnosed with a parotid tumor, but it was benign. Still it was removed and she was ok. I wasn't so lucky.

It started with a swollen lump I could feel on the right side of my neck. I didn't have a sore throat or anything, but my 6th sense told me it wasn't right. So I went to the doctor. They said it was nothing - just a swollen lymph. I was prescribed antibiotics. Still, the lump remained. I could feel it moving around, and it was very evident and prominent to me. I went to a 2nd doctor, and repeat - antibiotics. I called bullshit. I went to a doctor at a hospital - she sent me immediately to an ear/nose/throat specialist. I might add, she remains my family doctor to this day. love her! anyway.. the specialist performed an endoscopy - put that little snakey thing with the camera down my nose and into my throat. ouch! yup! As Arnold Schwarzenegger would say "IT'S A TUUUMOOOR". I was scheduled for immediate surgery about a week later. From what I remember it was a fairly quick procedure, a few hours in the O.R. I woke up groggy and with the entire right side of my neck all patched up in bandages. I felt like shit. Thank god for drugs. Later, I went to the restroom to wee and think the bandages had been removed in my drug induced slumber. Looked in the mirror.. not really thinking about it.. OMG! It was the worst thing I'd ever seen. My neck was stitched from ear lobe all along my neck to right under my chin. My mouth was lopsided like former Canadian PM, Jean Chretien. I had a pump coming out of a hole in my neck. I couldn't smile. I was so fucking scared and sad... it was unbelievable. Dunno how many stitches I had but must have been well over 100...

Anyway, I was released the next day and was assigned a home nurse. I had the little pump still in my neck to collect blood and fluids. I think the pump was removed about a week later. It hurt a bit when the nurse pulled that thing out of my body. It grossed me out as well to have to keep the wound and the little hole where the pump was clean... and to have to dump the blood as well.. yuck.

It was soon found out that my tumor was malignant - I was scheduled to begin radiation ASAP.

I was at the hospital all the time... I had several fittings. They created this mesh mask to fit over my face. It had precise markings on it so they would know where to line up these little lasers so they would know exactly where to aim the radiation beam. I got a little tattoo on my chest so that they could line the mask up to the tattoo. I still have it! And I'm proud of it! The best little tattoo ever... I wouldn't even ever trade it in for a back piece or sleeve..whatevs

Once that was all said and done, I went to the hospital every day at 11am for my 3 minute treatment. This was Monday thru Friday. I got weekends off. I was scheduled for 6 weeks of this. The first few weeks - no problem. It was around the 3rd/4th week my skin started to breakdown. Totally gnarly burns. It's gross but I could smell the searing flesh. It was so sore.. the worst pain I have ever felt. I have a pretty high pain threshold.. this just about broke me down. It was definitely a very trying moment in my life. I couldn't turn my head/neck... I couldn't sleep. i could barely live. All I could do was cry. I was given saline washes to try to soothe the burns.. nothing helped. My doctor told me to smoke pot and he would back me if I ever got in trouble with the law over it. I couldn't eat, I couldn't swallow. I was burning from the inside and the outside. My throat was raw. I had no saliva. I still couldn't smile - the nerves were temporarily damaged. Of course at that time, they didn't know if I would ever get my smile back. They say it can be permanent. I'd lost a ton of weight.. was down to 100lbs.

Into the 5th week I just couldn't do it anymore... the doctor stopped my radiation treatments. It was now time for me to rest and recover.

It was hard.. my will power really was put to the test. I went to therapy, and cancer support groups. It sounds cheezy.. but at a time like that, you need the support and take it in whatever form you can. I went thru this on my own.. my family wasn't there for me during this time. My boyfriend had dumped me when I was diagnosed with cancer.

I have Buddhist upbringings.. but I really started to take to Taoist philosophies. I was reading alot and looked to Taoism for strength and guidance. When I was well enough I stated to train Taoist Tai Chi. This definitely uplifted my spirits, strengthened my mind, body and soul. It was a great physical work out as well. It helped me focus and balance out the pain..

Anyway.. I'm now cancer free. I did develop 2 little lumps in the same area, after treatment. My oncologist tells me they are calcium build ups. They are still there but numerous MRI's and CT scans tell us they are nothing to be worried about. I've had repeat biopsies (ouch! I was awake while they cut into my neck!) and they all came back negative. Oh! I got my smile back :D A wee bit lopsided, but I can smile. The area where I had radiation is a darker shade and my oncologist told me the other day, that it will continue to deteriorate over time. It's just something I have to live with. I have a rad scar and a little round pock mark where the pump was. It looks like Bryan Adam's face. haha! Lotsa people think I'm some floozy with a bunch of hickies.. this is not the case tho.
My teeth have deteriorated in quality a bit (in my opinion), but my cancer dentist tells me I have some of the best teeth he's seen post radiation. I took part in a saliva study at the hospital and I have remarkable saliva volume! hooray! They could have done a better job sewing my ear back on. Seems they had to cut it at the lobe and lift it up to get in under there... I have a very chiseled jaw line now with a flappy ear lobe. I love the sinewy jaw line. I joke with my doctor all the time that I want him to do the left side! It is very gaunt.
I should also mention that with radiation, all of my hair on the right side (back of my head) fell out. It has not grown back to this day. That was a very frightening moment - i never even thought to anticipate hair loss. I though that only came with chemo. It was more evident for me because I'm a girl with long hair. Luckily the rest of it grows and covers over that bare patch.
I had to go for very frequent follow ups after treatment. Every two weeks, then every month.. whittling down. I now go once yearly to visit with my oncologist. I can live with that. It was just 2 weeks ago that I heard him say for the first time "You are Cancer-free". It was an emotional day for me... I'd never heard those words before.

I found that with the radiation, it really affected my memory - then and now. I talk with my doctor about it all the time, and they confirm it is highly possible. I think the radiation damaged my cognitive capacity. My short term memory these days isn't what it used to be. Ha! My long term memory isn't what it used to be! Some of my most vivid memories are from when I was a kid.. I still remember most of it. I hope I never forget. There is alot that I find I am struggling to remember. I find that thinking back to yesterday is really tough for me. It eats away at me.. my brain just feels a bit foggy all the time. KEEP A JOURNAL!!! Write EVERYTHING down! You will thank me for this tid bit!

I also developed alopecia last year. My doctor doesn't feel this is connected to my cancer.. but who knows. I also developed a non malignant skin transformation under my nail. Nail removed, skin biopsied... and negative.
I get more sick, more often. I have chronic pain and fatigue... ugh.. maybe it's just old age. Some days I still feel like I'm falling apart.. but I do manage to live a very normal.. "normal" life. :)

So anyway Adam - GOOD LUCK! It's a tough road, but definitely something that can be done and can be beat! I had it at a young age, knew nothing about it, what to do about it... I had no family around to hold my hand thru it. I wish I had the resources available to me then, that are available now. Fuck, I didn't even know how to use the internet back then!

The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.

To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

The mind is the source of happiness and unhappiness.

Hang in there Adam!!!!

Laver1969
07-22-2009, 09:37 PM
Thanks for sharing that! You are a strong woman!

Good health to you.

cuddleparty
07-22-2009, 09:55 PM
Thanks for sharing that! You are a strong woman!

Good health to you.

Awww.. thanks Laver69

Seems I posted the same thing twice, as 2 separate threads. Sorry for the repetition!!!

3stooges
07-23-2009, 05:17 AM
My goodness that is one hell of a story. Glad to hear you made it to 'all clear'. It sounds like it was a transformative experience for you.

YoungRemy
07-23-2009, 12:09 PM
very brave of you to have gone through something like that, and to come here and share your story puts things into perspective.

this is all a great reminder to listen to your own body's signals when you think something is not quite right...

Yauch's surgery is tomorrow.

cuddleparty
07-23-2009, 12:19 PM
Thanks to all ;)

I just wish I knew what to expect before I signed up for all the brutality - the surgery, the treatments, the emotional breakdown... ugh.
I always tell myself that if I'm ever diagnosed with cancer again... well, i don't know that i would do it again. alot of people get pissed off when they hear me say that.. but then.. they aren't the ones who had to do it. it's a whole different ball park when YOU are the one actually going under the knife et all.

Anyway.. ADAM! Make sure to tell them to sew your ear back on properly!!!! I hope you've had a chance to read this.. a first hand perspective, so you kinda know what's ahead. Good luck for tomorrow. :p

cuddleparty
07-23-2009, 12:37 PM
I should also mention that at the time I was diagnosed, I had a tongue ring. I wore it even throughout the radiation. Well, I would take it out for treatment, then I would put it back in. Anyway, after awhile (a few years ago) my oncologist asked me to take it out permanently. He seemed to think that it was causing blockage. It was impeding proper drainage. Given that my mom had a parotid tumor, it's most likely genetic for me. But my doctor still seems to think the tongue ring contributed to it. Hence, the calcium build up that I experienced afterwards.

So, here is a photo of the surgery area as it appears today. :)


http://i28.tinypic.com/2vn45rl.jpg

Oh ya.. the area remains numb and tingly.. if I pinch my ear, I can feel pressure but I don't necessarily feel pain, per se. It's a strange sensation. The entire right side just sort of feels surreal. I feel a lot of pain/pressure now and again... it's odd how it comes and goes. I also get shooting pains at the back of my head. Like someone is hammering away. The skin is very thin and I often worry that it's just gonna rip apart one day. haha.. my doctor assures me this won't happen. My face won't cave in either. phew! let's hope he is right, because my jaw feels brittle to me whenever I touch it. There are options for skin grafting after treatment but I hear it's more a risk, and more trouble than it's worth! who knows..

mickill
07-23-2009, 12:50 PM
^ Looks like they did more than a decent job.

That is a lot for anyone to have to go through. In a way, I feel a lot worse for Yauch now than I did before reading about your experiences with the treatment. But I'm glad I'm more aware of what's involved. It obviuosly takes a great deal of courage to endure what you've gone through. And you did it without a lot of support from family and friends. Adam is lucky that he has not only the encouragement from family and friends to help him through this difficult time, but literally millions of people in his corner, thinking of him. I hope it makes it even a little easier for him. Anyway, thanks for sharing your story.

Nerd Fight
07-23-2009, 12:51 PM
So, here is a photo of the surgery area as it appears today. :)
http://i28.tinypic.com/2vn45rl.jpg

That doesn't look bad at all.
It's a good job you called bullshit on that second doctor who told you it was just a swollen lymph. I think it's good not to put all your trust in a doctor's diagnosis, especially when your instincts are telling you something different.

jennyb
07-23-2009, 02:19 PM
Thanks for sharing, it's quite courageous of you to share this in detail with a bunch of us. But knowledge is power and eliminates fear! So big ups! (y)

But yeah, how would you say your rapping abilities differ from before this ordeal as opposed to now? Are you able to still kill it on the mic? You know, just sayin, like, um, if you were to be say, an em cee... ;)

I'm going to yoga class tonight to try and channel as much light and love to Yauch as I can. Call me a hippie if you must.

cuddleparty
07-23-2009, 02:24 PM
Thanks for sharing, it's quite courageous of you to share this in detail with a bunch of us. But knowledge is power and eliminates fear! So big ups! (y)

But yeah, how would you say your rapping abilities differ from before this ordeal as opposed to now? Are you able to still kill it on the mic? You know, just sayin, like, um, if you were to be say, an em cee... ;)

I'm going to yoga class tonight to try and channel as much light and love to Yauch as I can. Call me a hippie if you must.

haha... funny. can't rap to save my life. but I think Adam will be ok after awhile. I couldn't talk for a bit.. it fuckin' killed to even try to get a peep out. but after letting his shit rest for a few months, I'm sure Yauch will be back to it... give him time tho! Lots of time!

tjpop
07-23-2009, 06:15 PM
you really paint this picture for us. like mickill said, makes us feel for Adam's ordeal all the more.

thanks cuddleparty. yeah what you show in the photo is nothing!
looks fine. anyway stay strong and uplifting!~

Dougdeni
07-24-2009, 04:19 PM
Oh ya.. the area remains numb and tingly.. if I pinch my ear, I can feel pressure but I don't necessarily feel pain, per se. It's a strange sensation. The entire right side just sort of feels surreal. I feel a lot of pain/pressure now and again... it's odd how it comes and goes. I also get shooting pains at the back of my head. Like someone is hammering away. The skin is very thin and I often worry that it's just gonna rip apart one day. haha.. my doctor assures me this won't happen. My face won't cave in either. phew! let's hope he is right, because my jaw feels brittle to me whenever I touch it. There are options for skin grafting after treatment but I hear it's more a risk, and more trouble than it's worth! who knows..

That's important for Adam to know, all of us who've had parotid gland surgery for benign or malignant tumors, we all have a numb earlobe, it happens because in parotid gland surgery the auricular nerve is severed, but while it's a strange sensation when you touch the ear, you pretty much forget about it after a while.

Glad to see you've done very well cuddle as have so many with malignant parotid tumors.

cuddleparty
07-25-2009, 09:00 AM
So any word on how Adam's surgery went down?

I was thinking about it all yesterday... wondering how he was doing.

Y'know I have to admit that since the announcement that Adam had parotid cancer, I've been kinda "excited" about it. This sounds odd, I know. Not that I'm happy for the guy... I wouldn't wish this upon anyone. But this is such an obscure cancer that has never garnered any sort of attention. Now, we have a public figure going thru it - someone to represent.

Unfortunately, our crazy world is so media and celebrity obsessed and this is what it takes for people out there to recognize something as obscure as "parotid cancer". This is what it takes for information and research to start flowing. It's almost like it didn't exist until it became "celebrity endorsed".
It's comforting to me to read about it in the news, to find out more about it...

Adam, thanks for making it real... I hope the surgery was flawless and you are feeling good today :)

Turchinator
08-25-2010, 03:14 PM
My Father just got out of surgery yesterday, the doctors removed a tumor on his parotid gland. they still haven't received the biopsy results but the lump had been growing for almost a year and he was just being stubborn to deal with it, afraid of the bad news he could potentially receive...

well his friends and family nudged him to get it checked out, and within a week he was scheduled for surgery. the 2 hour surgery ended up taking about 5 hours due to the size of the tumor and all of the facial nerves surrounding the parotid (salivary) gland...

if the tumor is malignant, he will follow the same course as the thread starter and Mr. Yauch.

If it is benign, he is well on his way to recovery.

but I think the important thing to notice and mention is the facial nerve damage involved with a surgery like this: the thread starter is still feeling the effects 9 years later, and the doctors told my mother that my dad might have some nerve damage on the same side of his face as the surgery.

they said the nerves leading to the mouth and to the eyes could be affected. this means smiling, talking, and blinking would be difficult at first but it will be a slow recovery.

I had been reading all about Yauch's diagnosis and treatment in the last year, and I was pretty much the expert in my family about my dad's diagnosis because of threads like this one and other ones here...

I just hope people realize that the recovery period for anyone dealing with a surgery/treatment like this takes a lot of time and patience, and I hope that no matter what happens to the Beastie Boys and their future, I know that Adam Yauch is a brave man and a humble person for sharing the details of his illness with the community.

His recovery will be a long one, he is only human.

b-grrrlie
08-25-2010, 06:32 PM
Thanks whoever bumped this one! I hadn't seen this message before...

I found that with the radiation, it really affected my memory - then and now. I talk with my doctor about it all the time, and they confirm it is highly possible. I think the radiation damaged my cognitive capacity. My short term memory these days isn't what it used to be. Ha! My long term memory isn't what it used to be! Some of my most vivid memories are from when I was a kid.. I still remember most of it. I hope I never forget. There is alot that I find I am struggling to remember. I find that thinking back to yesterday is really tough for me. It eats away at me.. my brain just feels a bit foggy all the time.
I broke my neck ten years ago and had to go through some radiation X-ray or something and I think it affected my memory. I was studying at the time and about three months later when I was still wearing my halo vest I realized I couldn't remember certain things, and I think it's still haunting me. Sometimes people must think I'm stupid cause I can't remember names, faces or even events or some little things or what people have told me just a few hours earlier.
I had a cancer about 25 years ago, but luckily it was discovered in really early stages and the doctors were quick to get me into surgery and they cut off a lot and I didn't need any chemo which I'm thankful for (my grandma had died of the same cancer 20-odd years earlier, so I'm even thankful for medical science). I had to go to check ups for several years afterwards before I got the all-clear sign.

Funny how these things make you appreciate everyday life a bit more...

RichieT.
08-25-2010, 06:55 PM
I'm new to the board and haven't read this thread before. I had no idea how invasive and awful of a surgery or recovery parotid cancer entailed. Cuddleparty, very brave just sharing your story, glad you're doing well. Turchinator, I hope everything goes well for your father. As always get well Adam.

Turchinator
01-07-2011, 08:40 PM
I felt like sharing an update since Adam Yauch was kind enough to let the fans in on what he has been going through since the summer of 2009...

here's the gist of my father's treatment with his parotid tumor. they ended up finding "dead cancer cells" in the tumor and decided on a course of radiation treatment to attack the local area around his jawline and neck/ear area.

as mentioned, the nerve damage that my Dad sustained was pretty substantial. it's 4 months after the initial surgery, and he still has a droopy mouth and a bit of slurred speech, but it doesn't keep him from drinking his Miller Lite out of a straw and acting like it's no big deal...

the nerve that attached to his eye sustained the most damage. probably permanently. he went in for a surgery where they implanted a golden sliver into his eyelid so that it will close on its own intermittently. he was having trouble blinking his eye and had to apply an oozy gel into his eyeball until the "Goldeneye" was installed.

pretty f'ing cool.

the doctors were most concerned about microscopic cancer cells traveling up the nerves into the brain, since the tumor was all wrapped around those things.

the radiation treatment didn't start until mid November, only after he had to have 4 teeth pulled in order to prepare for the radiation on his jawbone.

When I was home for the holidays, he had just finished his last day of treatment and he was told the radiation would continue to "cook" for at least 7-14 more days.

I watched him trying to eat his dinner until he just broke down in tears from the pain. I kept telling him it would get better with each day, that the plateau of pain would eventually start turning downhill.

he had blisters and essentially a sunburn all over his neck area, and the ear area was straight up oozing pus and blood all night.

he slept in the guestroom during the treatment to allow my mom some rest while he tossed and turned in pain while bleeding out on the sheets every night.

perhaps the other cool thing was the Hannibal Lecter looking face mask that he brought home to show us what he had to wear during each treatment. definitely not for the claustrophobic. it was a plastic mesh armor face mask that was molded especially for my dad's head.

it was fun trying it on with my brother, I think we had some good family times while realizing the weight of the situation our dad was going through.

by the end of my 9 day visit, things were getting better by the day and I can definitely say we are all looking forward to a healthier (10 pounds lighter!) and cancer free life for our father...

it is a true testament to the fight that cancer patients go through.

Keep Fighting, Yauch!

Knuckles
01-07-2011, 08:55 PM
Thanks for sharing Turchinator.

Your father is now on my good vibe list along with Mr. Yauch.

JoLovesMCA
01-07-2011, 11:26 PM
I felt like sharing an update since Adam Yauch was kind enough to let the fans in on what he has been going through since the summer of 2009...

here's the gist of my father's treatment with his parotid tumor. they ended up finding "dead cancer cells" in the tumor and decided on a course of radiation treatment to attack the local area around his jawline and neck/ear area.

as mentioned, the nerve damage that my Dad sustained was pretty substantial. it's 4 months after the initial surgery, and he still has a droopy mouth and a bit of slurred speech, but it doesn't keep him from drinking his Miller Lite out of a straw and acting like it's no big deal...

the nerve that attached to his eye sustained the most damage. probably permanently. he went in for a surgery where they implanted a golden sliver into his eyelid so that it will close on its own intermittently. he was having trouble blinking his eye and had to apply an oozy gel into his eyeball until the "Goldeneye" was installed.

pretty f'ing cool.

the doctors were most concerned about microscopic cancer cells traveling up the nerves into the brain, since the tumor was all wrapped around those things.

the radiation treatment didn't start until mid November, only after he had to have 4 teeth pulled in order to prepare for the radiation on his jawbone.

When I was home for the holidays, he had just finished his last day of treatment and he was told the radiation would continue to "cook" for at least 7-14 more days.

I watched him trying to eat his dinner until he just broke down in tears from the pain. I kept telling him it would get better with each day, that the plateau of pain would eventually start turning downhill.

he had blisters and essentially a sunburn all over his neck area, and the ear area was straight up oozing pus and blood all night.

he slept in the guestroom during the treatment to allow my mom some rest while he tossed and turned in pain while bleeding out on the sheets every night.

perhaps the other cool thing was the Hannibal Lecter looking face mask that he brought home to show us what he had to wear during each treatment. definitely not for the claustrophobic. it was a plastic mesh armor face mask that was molded especially for my dad's head.

it was fun trying it on with my brother, I think we had some good family times while realizing the weight of the situation our dad was going through.

by the end of my 9 day visit, things were getting better by the day and I can definitely say we are all looking forward to a healthier (10 pounds lighter!) and cancer free life for our father...

it is a true testament to the fight that cancer patients go through.

Keep Fighting, Yauch!

WOW did he go through some hell but was strong and fought all the way through! I am happy for you and for your father. cheers to him and his good health. cancer sucks but this proves it can be BEAT!

Laver1969
01-10-2011, 11:08 AM
Best wishes to Turch's pop! Thanks for the update. Keep fighting...

And to Yauch: It looks like things are improving for ya, how close are you to being "cancer free"?

gumkojima
01-10-2011, 07:04 PM
All our best to Turch's dad !

JoLovesMCA
09-06-2011, 09:16 PM
Sometimes cancer wins. Just found out my aunt has been given only three months to live for her anal cancer that she's been battling for the past 5 years. They are sitting up a hospice in my uncle's house right now. He won't even answer calls from the family. This year is gonna end horribly. :(

MCAadROCKMiKEd7
09-07-2011, 07:13 PM
Damn Cuddle i'm so sorry
Thank you for sharing your story with us
I hope one day Yauch sees that you reached out like this
I really wish you good health, i'm glad youre okay now nobody deserves anything you went through at all and if you ever need good prayers, im yer girl (: