Too Many Rappers 12"

[DJ_Skrilla]

Picked one up yesterday for $7.95.

Just wondering if anyone has ripped it yet, because I am too lazy to do it.

[KevG]

Picked one up yesterday for $7.95.

Just wondering if anyone has ripped it yet, because I am too lazy to do it.

I tried to but the vinyl sounded like shit.. I don't know if it was because it is that 180 gram vinyl or what but.. the instrumental and a cappella tracks are linked on this site somewhere and they sound fine...

[jennyb]

I picked up a copy tonight aw yeah!

[KevG]

I downloaded the MP3 from iTunes and I don't think that sounds too good either... what the hell is going on here?

The instrumental and a cappellas both sound great but the full version doesn't.. very confused by this..

[Thunder D]

I have a top notch turntable. Spend the 99 cents on iTunes and you will be more happy. I cant believe I said that.....but its true.

[DJ_Skrilla]

I have a top notch turntable. Spend the 99 cents on iTunes and you will be more happy. I cant believe I said that.....but its true.

Thanks for the tip on Jackpot Thunder. They had 2 copies left and I got 1. I walked all around looking for anywhere else that sold it. Nothing at 2nd (you said that too), nothing at 360 vinyl, and nothing at Platinum records. I did see a bunch of the new 180g reissues, but its a rip off for $25.99-$27.99 they dont even have the extra tracks. I already have PB, CYH, IC x2 on Green 1x on black vinyl, and 2x Hello nasty on Yellow. Its hard to rebuy, although 180g is nice. I did see an In-Sounds-From-Way-Out w/2 bonus tracks. That might be nice. Keep diggin my man. I will by the 4x-vinyl boxsets...

oh yeah I also have root down EP on blue vinyl. Love American style on white (although there is red, white, and blue available), BS2000 on pink.... Frozen Metal Head on White... Colored vinyl makes me happy. Werd. (y)

[acamus]

shit is sold out EVERYWHERE. finally got mine from insound. or at least i hope they don't email back to say, "sorry, you suck and you don't get one."

[dust monkey]

I downloaded the MP3 from iTunes and I don't think that sounds too good either... what the hell is going on here?..

I'm glad you said this; I to think that the itunes DL sounds wrong. Surely you don't think it was mixed like this do you. I have not heard the instrumental so I have not compared the two.

Hmmmmm.......does anyone else with the itunes version think or hear the same?

[DJ_Skrilla]

Listening to the I-tunes version through some good headphones, and it sounds way better than the radio1 version. Just shell out the 99 cents, or go buy the vinyl.

[acamus]

funny thought is that the Boys are gonna make this album assembly required. we got the instrumental and a cappella for BBITC and had to put it together. maybe we have to remaster TMR ourselves. who's got this one? someone rip the instrumental and a cappella from the 12" and get started. i don't have the skills.

[Club Molecule]

The reason why the Radio 1 version sounds so bad is that Radio 1 compress the shit out of the audio they put out for MAXIMUM LOUDNESS. Given that most modern records (tunes/tracks/whatever) - particularly hip hop/rnb/dance tracks - are also highly compressed for maximum loudness and impact, the combination of both amounts of heavy compression crushes all the dynamics out of the music and generally makes it sound crappy.

On several occasions I have heard pre-releases on Radio 1 that sound really loud and heavy, only to find that the actual record is much quieter.

[Kid Presentable]

I'm glad you said this; I to think that the itunes DL sounds wrong. Surely you don't think it was mixed like this do you. I have not heard the instrumental so I have not compared the two.

Hmmmmm.......does anyone else with the itunes version think or hear the same?

Yeah the iTunes version is borked, I can understand people thinking it isn't but hey....

[dust monkey]

Yeah the iTunes version is borked, I can't believe how deaf people are....

Thank you KP if I catch your meaning on the word borked?!!?

Ok so I DL the instrumental, listened, then listened again my PURCHASED FOR .99 version (not sure how you missed that part) and although the iTunes DL sounds deeper and the bass hits harder, the instrumental version sounds so much better. I swear and please compare yourself. All of the effects, live instruments, drums and specifically the guitar licks sound so freakin awesome on the instrumental version. I am far from an expert but I do like to think I can hear so my question is would the vocals mixed in drown out so much of the other stuff? Serious question by the way.

So serious that I swear I was going to report a problem with the DL to Apple. The song is amazing but something did not sound right from the first listen after I purchased the iTunes version, but it was way better than the Radio1 crap so maybe I just wasn't paying attention or didn't care. But after listening to the instrumental several times this afternoon I swear there are sounds in it that I never heard in over 20 plays on my iPod.

Can anyone who is an expert comment on this?

[KevG]

I'm glad you said this; I to think that the itunes DL sounds wrong. Surely you don't think it was mixed like this do you. I have not heard the instrumental so I have not compared the two.
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The instrumental and a cappella versions are on that beastieremixes.com site

[QUOTE=DJ_Skrilla;1684190]Listening to the I-tunes version through some good headphones, and it sounds way better than the radio1 version. Just shell out the 99 cents, or go buy the vinyl.

I have top notch equipment. Other than the instrumental, the best version I have heard so far IS the Radio1 version. Take the middle part for example, on iTunes it is so quiet, on the radio it is loud as hell..



On several occasions I have heard pre-releases on Radio 1 that sound really loud and heavy, only to find that the actual record is much quieter.

As in this case..

All of the effects, live instruments, drums and specifically the guitar licks sound so freakin awesome on the instrumental version.

Can anyone who is an expert comment on this?

Not an expert but the 12" and the iTunes versions sound like shit.. the instrumental is insane and the a cappella is slower than the instrumental..

[Kid Presentable]

It's all evident in the break. The break in the radio rip is loud and rambunctious and Beastie, particularly the fuzz bass but especially when Mike's drum break storms in. The drums are left and right dynamic, with the 'played' ones being dominant. On the iTunes one the other drums (the 'Levee Breaks' sounding ones) are dominant and it's just weird.

[dust monkey]

[QUOTE Not an expert but the 12" and the iTunes versions sound like shit.. the instrumental is insane and the a cappella is slower than the instrumental..[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the helpful ear then, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy. What do you think is the problem then, why is the iTunes version mixed sooooo bad. I'm not kidding, I liked it before.....but after listening to the instrumental I'm just blown away. The song could be genius on it's own as an instrumental only, I think it's almost better than anything on TMU...almost.

Of course I really want the vocals over the instrumental sound now, I want to hear the guitar licks during the pause, and I want to hear the background scratch or whatever when Mike says go back in time and send a fax from a car. You can't even hear that shit on the iTunes DL.

Dissapointing to say the least that it was released like this. I wonder did anyone buy the Amazon version and if so does it sound better?

[KevG]

Thanks for the helpful ear then, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy. What do you think is the problem then, why is the iTunes version mixed sooooo bad.

Honestly, I don't know.. I've only downloaded 3 songs from iTunes VER.. lol

[Space]

i just got it from amazon ,and im trying to hear what yall are talkin about..so far , i really like it...but i am listening on a laptop with small speakers, and they only gave me the whole version, so my opinion is only based on that solely, and it just started the second time and i like it twice as much , the beat sound like it keeps up with the vocals IMO.

[Space]

p.s. I LOVE THIS FUCKING SONG!

[Space]

[QUOTE Not an expert but the 12" when Mike says go back in time and send a fax from a car. You can't even hear that shit on the iTunes DL.

Dissapointing to say the least that it was released like this. I wonder did anyone buy the Amazon version and if so does it sound better?

i can hear MIKE D say that from my version from amazon perfectly.

[prof_d_boiz]

I just got my copy of the 12" in the mail today. The ripped tracks can be found on my web site at http://www.spring-garden-vfc.com/beastie/ under Selected Treats.

Enjoy!

[camo]

nice one (y)

[acamus]

thanks.

[laurie_hammy]

I noticed on the acapella Yauchs first verse skips at 44 seconds. Anyone notice this ?

[Nygel]

I noticed on the acapella Yauchs first verse skips at 44 seconds. Anyone notice this ?

yes. i did.

[mikizee]

I have a top notch turntable. Spend the 99 cents on iTunes and you will be more happy. I cant believe I said that.....but its true.

What kind of turntable and cart you running?

[peterclamp]

I just got my copy of the 12" in the mail today. The ripped tracks can be found on my web site at http://www.spring-garden-vfc.com/beastie/ under Selected Treats.

Enjoy!

Hey thanks for that, I dont have a working turntable anymore so just had the iTunes download. I listened to both the full song and the instrumental vinyl rip through my headphones (good quality Sennheisers) and everyone here is right, the full mix is NOT right at all. I dont know what has happened, it maybe that the vocals are just to high up/dominant in the mix but so much of the music is missing! I too did not realise those guitar licks were even there!

Maybe Yauch while he is recovering and has run out of glossy magazines to read, could pop into the studio and tweak the final album mix for this track? I assume the Master copy has yet to be sent out for reproduction?

Actually, does anyone know how long before a worldwide album release that the CDs are produced in the factories? I presume the production itself is pretty quick, then there is the packing, shipping, distribution to retailers...

[dust monkey]

I listened to both the full song and the instrumental vinyl rip through my headphones and everyone here is right, the full mix is NOT right at all. I dont know what has happened but so much of the music is missing! I too did not realise those guitar licks were even there!...

Yes I didn't know either, and it's a pretty sweet instrumental with all that stuff that's missing in the full version. It's important that someone sees this.

I DL'ed the Amazon version so I'll sync to my iPod to see if it is the same; bit rate is different than iTunes version but I don't imagine it will be different. I think that this is an O-Scope problem as much as I hate to say it.

[ILLMIX]

Hey everyone,

Well, i got mine from Amazone, and i hate to admit it, the sound quality/production/mix does not sound good at all. The song is great, but the version i've downloaded sounds a bit, i don't know how to puti it, a bit off?:confused:

...i agree with everyon else that the individual, seperate acapella and instrumental sound great?

what do you think happened here?

[acamus]

Hey everyone, Well, i got mine from Amazone, and i hate to admit it, the sound quality/production/mix does not sound good at all. The song is great, but the version i've downloaded sounds a bit, i don't know how to puti it, a bit off?:confused: ...i agree with everyon else that the individual, seperate acapella and instrumental sound great?

what do you think happened here?

take me seriously for a second. how about someone with a good instrumental copy and a good a cappella copy put them together the same way y'all did with BBITC. mix them so that they sound good and put that one out. i'm really feeling a "some assembly required" thing with this new album. that's what's gonna make this one different. not the newest in beats. not the newest lyrics and flow. it's a toy that fans have to assemble.

i'm a paranoid freak, so just indulge me for a second. k?

[dust monkey]

Well I listened to the Amazon version about 5 times today, it sounds better than the iTunes version but only because the opening bass once the vocals start doesn't completely drown out everything else. It sounds a little cleaner and the middle break bass line after the first verse hits a tad bit harder in a rumble the speakers Gratitude way, the iTunes version actually drops a decibel or two. I assume it might have something to do with the compression because the bit rates are different but WTF do I know.

Still though very sad that the final mix was completed so poorly in comparison to the instrumental. I hear what your saying about the assemble required build a beat thing but my response to that is why should we? And actually I'm begginning to become more suspect about Lee Majors now. I initially thought bad rip, vinyl this or that, upload/download, etc. You can see my posts, I was convinced that it would hit like Heart Attack, Time for Livin, Tough Guy, Aglio, etc. when released.........not so much anymore????

Ahhh maybe none of us really know what we're talking about ehhh? Wonder if we could get an official comment or something?

[laurie_hammy]

Is this just out on record ? No cd ?

[JohnnyChavello]

I've been a big cheerleader for this song since I heard the Bonnaroo clips; I was way on board when the full version leaked on Radio 1; and I still listen to it regularly and think it's the shit; but, after listening to the instrumental, I see what everybody's saying in here: it's lost a lot of the characteristic tics and quirks in the mix. The scratches, the guitar punches, the little things that should really stand out, don't stand out in the version I've been listening to.

I think it would be a shame to not get this exactly right on a song that could, in my opinion, hold up really well with their best. Actually, I think the music is good enough to warrant the extended treatment where there is an instrumental element to the album version, where it's allowed to sort of blip out and be trippy and loose and not as focused and precise in form (apart from the sound). I'd like tohear a version where it goes instrumental after the verses for a couple of minutes and there's just some improvisational scratching layered in, or cut and paste samples of spoken word stuff or conversation or whatever - something more experimental. When I was listening to the instrumental with headphones it just got me into a really good space. Maybe that's what remixes are for these days; I'd like to see the Beasties do it themselves.

Those are my thoughts: love the song, and actually think it's so good that it should be refined and expanded upon.

[dust monkey]

When I was listening to the instrumental with headphones it just got me into a really good space.

That is pretty cool what you wrote; I don't think I've ever listened to one of their instrumental versions of a song that hit me like this one did. Maybe that's why I'm writing so much about it. There is something special about the music, and those ticks and punches and punctuations and guitar licks and scratching on the vocal-less version make the overall song very very nice. As I said before as a stand alone without vocals it is almost better than anything from TMU.

I doubt they go back to mix again and that's cool; I just want people to hear how much better the instrumental track sounds.

[destructo]

Maybe the instrumental mix is intentional?

[acamus]

Ahhh maybe none of us really know what we're talking about ehhh? Wonder if we could get an official comment or something?

oh i know im pulling this shit outta my ass, but its fun speculating. in fact im probably projecting. if i were in a band, especially one whod been around long enough to have gotten out a lot of musical ideas, id be putting out my music "some assembly required" style. in fact, i got the whole "some assembly required" line from the TOPSPIN website, the marketing group that the boys are using. i just saw an ad in Relix from another band (can't remember the name) who's using the "some assembly required" idea, but theirs just seems to be you download one song per week and "put the album together". considering that the way music distribution is going where the music is just given away and its the tours and merchandise that the artist make their money, why not find a way to make the music more interesting. maybe even monitize it by putting better versions out on vinyl. create buzz and fun by fans talking about tweaks and putting together instrumentals and vocals that have fucked up time signatures. it also breaks down the barrier between artist and audience if the fans get a hand in assembling - kinda like AIFST, but in reverse. again, i don't know fuck from shit, but even if this isn't what the Boys are doing, i like the idea.

[bigfatlove06]

oh i know im pulling this shit outta my ass, but its fun speculating. in fact im probably projecting. if i were in a band, especially one whod been around long enough to have gotten out a lot of musical ideas, id be putting out my music "some assembly required" style. in fact, i got the whole "some assembly required" line from the TOPSPIN website, the marketing group that the boys are using. i just saw an ad in Relix from another band (can't remember the name) who's using the "some assembly required" idea, but theirs just seems to be you download one song per week and "put the album together". considering that the way music distribution is going where the music is just given away and its the tours and merchandise that the artist make their money, why not find a way to make the music more interesting. maybe even monitize it by putting better versions out on vinyl. create buzz and fun by fans talking about tweaks and putting together instrumentals and vocals that have fucked up time signatures. it also breaks down the barrier between artist and audience if the fans get a hand in assembling - kinda like AIFST, but in reverse. again, i don't know fuck from shit, but even if this isn't what the Boys are doing, i like the idea.

I think Ian would agree. (except for the part about putting better versions on vinyl & messed up time signatures unless it was explicitly stated). I don't think it will be too long before someone releases an unmixed album with vocals, instrumentals, and other material as separate tracks. See NIN Ghosts I-IV

[acamus]

yeah, i get your point, Dust Monkey: why should we? again, i don't pretend to know what the fuck they're doing, i'm just thinking out loud. they could use this as the way to leak tracks and then when the real CD/LP comes out, they're that much better (or authentic?) being Bboy tweaked. that's definitely more interesting than just putting out singles.

i gotta say frankly, i'm tired of the same old go buy a cd with 10 songs on it, listen to it until it gets old, dig it back out in 6 months, blah, blah, blah. i think they should solicit music/sound recordings from the BBMB members and incorporate that into a song.

fuck it, who on here wants to start a band with a board member (ooo, do i have voting rights?) who can barely play a radio well? i want to cheat in a way that's never been done before, beyond drum machines, samples and Auto-tune. never mind. my band is these three dudes from NYC call Beastie Boys. i'm the producer when their music plays at my house, tweakin' the EQ and turning up the volume and shit. that's my band. (too much wine.)

[destructo]

Acamus, you have a pretty good idea rolling and I think this works best when tracks are "leaked" onto the internet. I don't think the "assembly required" idea works as an official release unless the public is informed about it and there is also a final mix version available to those who wish to buy it. I think the instrumental version of TMR is an intentional mix. Not too many people listen to the instrumental version of a song, so this a little bonus for those who do and also a treat for DJ's who mix it up for whatever reason.

One more thing, the Beasties pretty much do whatever they want, which is good, because it keeps all of us talking. That is always good for them.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

yeah, i get your point, Dust Monkey: why should we? again, i don't pretend to know what the fuck they're doing, i'm just thinking out loud. they could use this as the way to leak tracks and then when the real CD/LP comes out, they're that much better (or authentic?) being Bboy tweaked. that's definitely more interesting than just putting out singles.

i gotta say frankly, i'm tired of the same old go buy a cd with 10 songs on it, listen to it until it gets old, dig it back out in 6 months, blah, blah, blah. i think they should solicit music/sound recordings from the BBMB members and incorporate that into a song.

fuck it, who on here wants to start a band with a board member (ooo, do i have voting rights?) who can barely play a radio well? i want to cheat in a way that's never been done before, beyond drum machines, samples and Auto-tune. never mind. my band is these three dudes from NYC call Beastie Boys. i'm the producer when their music plays at my house, tweakin' the EQ and turning up the volume and shit. that's my band. (too much wine.)

It pretty much sounds like you should learn how to DJ, cause this is what DJs do.

[acamus]

It pretty much sounds like you should learn how to DJ, cause this is what DJs do.

:)

[sab0tage]

Is this just out on record ? No cd ?

Just the vinyl Laurie. Got my EU version today :D

[Thunder D]

Beastiemania has a pic up of a promo CD. It looks like just the one track.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I got the 12" vinyl on this and all the tracks sound really good. The volume on them is not too soft and not too loud. There's no difference between the vocal and instrumental versions (except the instrumental has no lyrics.) The digital versions people are downloading must be faulty. I don't like those compressed files anyway.

[dirtydan11]

i put the instrumental in front of the final version with no space inbetween on a CD and they sound wicked together. you get a hypnotic vibe from the music for over 4 minutes and then MCA's verse starts. i highly recommend trying that out

[pm0ney]

I'm ashamed of myself for not catching this right away, but I just realized that MCA's "Wolf Blitzer" line was a shot at Will.I.Am. and that hologram shit he did during the presidential elections. Very nice.

[laurie_hammy]

Just the vinyl Laurie. Got my EU version today :D

Cool

[ILLMIX]

The board seems to have become sieged with Frequently Discussed Beastie Topics? 'Fave beastie songs' 'YouTube Videos', 'Random Beastie Stuff' 'Hub', etc... also this may be because the board is just not very active at all, it was more lively of Feb/March this year?!!!

It is as if a new album is not about to be released in the coming months, or that a single was not droped a few weeks ago, or the release of Hello Nasty re-mastered with bonus tracks, not to mention MCA battling with Cancer. :confused:

IMO Topics Which I would expect to be on constant talk here, in no particular order:

1) MCA Cancer - progress
2) The excitment or dissapointment of the Hello Nasty release with mostly short instrumental bonus tracks
3) Too Many Rappers single - airplay, chart position, thoughts, remixes, tv/radio spots
4) Too Many Rappers Video - any word on this, speculation, when is it released etc
5) General chat on the Hot Sauce Committee release..... anything!
6) Radio/TV/media coverage of anything New Beastie related, album, single, MCA, anything!

.....man i'll get hated for this :)

[Kid Presentable]

Rather than disappoint you with predictability, I'll just ask: What do you expect from that little list you posted? All of these things and more are being discussed, in and among the shrub of other discussions. What can be said about the album? We have three songs, and a sudden and disappointing (though completely justified) lid put on that jar for the time being.

If order, structure and an idea of "the way things should be" float your boat, I suggest you start a blog and control those things. Name it, oh, after a line in So Watcha Want. Something like Wall-to-wall. Then you can run things as you see fit.

Feedback is great, so this is my feedback to your feedback. I say just relax, maybe start a couple of threads in line with your preferences and suggestions and see how they do. And be thankful there's still a band to justify the community. (y)

[Jiberish]

... be thankful there's still a band to justify the community. (y)

(y)

[cj hood]

when i think of HSC i can't help but to think of Crown Royal, not the quality of it, but how years passed between when it was recorded and when it was released...

hiphops like produce...once you pick it, you gotta get it on the shelf pronto!

[Kid Presentable]

when i think of HSC i can't help but to think of Crown Royal, not the quality of it, but how years passed between when it was recorded and when it was released...

hiphops like produce...once you pick it, you gotta get it on the shelf pronto!

Yeah I kind of hope we get a slightly different version of it, maybe more tracks, I dunno.

[destructo]

The board seems to have become sieged with Frequently Discussed Beastie Topics? 'Fave beastie songs' 'YouTube Videos', 'Random Beastie Stuff' 'Hub', etc... also this may be because the board is just not very active at all, it was more lively of Feb/March this year?!!!

It is as if a new album is not about to be released in the coming months, or that a single was not droped a few weeks ago, or the release of Hello Nasty re-mastered with bonus tracks, not to mention MCA battling with Cancer. :confused:

IMO Topics Which I would expect to be on constant talk here, in no particular order:

1) MCA Cancer - progress
2) The excitment or dissapointment of the Hello Nasty release with mostly short instrumental bonus tracks
3) Too Many Rappers single - airplay, chart position, thoughts, remixes, tv/radio spots
4) Too Many Rappers Video - any word on this, speculation, when is it released etc
5) General chat on the Hot Sauce Committee release..... anything!
6) Radio/TV/media coverage of anything New Beastie related, album, single, MCA, anything!

.....man i'll get hated for this :)

no comment..

[ILLMIX]

Rather than disappoint you with predictability, I'll just ask: What do you expect from that little list you posted? All of these things and more are being discussed, in and among the shrub of other discussions. What can be said about the album? We have three songs, and a sudden and disappointing (though completely justified) lid put on that jar for the time being.

If order, structure and an idea of "the way things should be" float your boat, I suggest you start a blog and control those things. Name it, oh, after a line in So Watcha Want. Something like Wall-to-wall. Then you can run things as you see fit.

Feedback is great, so this is my feedback to your feedback. I say just relax, maybe start a couple of threads in line with your preferences and suggestions and see how they do. And be thankful there's still a band to justify the community. (y)

Yes true, I'm just comparing this period to before Hello Nasty or TT5B dropped, maybe I expect too much. :(. But hey, the Beastie Boys still exist so it's all good. (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Yes true, I'm just comparing this period to before Hello Nasty or TT5B dropped.

Cancer stepped into the middle of the hype campaign this time. Pretty obvious distinction.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

i am trying to combine the TMR vocals-only with the TMR instrumental-only rips from vinyl but it is more difficult than i thought to make it sound 'awesome' (obviously as i know shit). anyone else try with any success? the goal here is to combine the two so it sounds better than the mp3 itunes download if that is possible.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Why not just get a burn of the 12" vocal? The vocal version sounds great on the record.

Fuck an MP3 anyway.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

this may sound sad but i have not opened my 12". each time you play vinyl it destroys subsquent listens and I am waiting to listen to my Beastie Boys vinyl a month or so before I am about to kick the bucket on an Oracle turntable:

Image of dream turntable (http://media.photobucket.com/image/oracle+turntable/RickCDDVD/oracle_delphi_mkv01.jpg?o=1)

I would like to find a 'lossless rip' from a high end turntable of the TMR track. I could copy mine but that would entail me opening it and copying it from my current turntable which is only average. I want to know which sounds best:

1) the itunes download (highly doubtful)
2) an mp3 copy from the 12" vinyl
3) a taped copy from the 12" vinyl
4) the CD-R single promotional release (does anyone have this by the way?)

[Sir SkratchaLot]

this may sound sad but i have not opened my 12". each time you play vinyl it destroys subsquent listens and I am waiting to listen to my Beastie Boys vinyl a month or so before I am about to kick the bucket on an Oracle turntable:

Image of dream turntable (http://media.photobucket.com/image/oracle+turntable/RickCDDVD/oracle_delphi_mkv01.jpg?o=1)

I would like to find a 'lossless rip' from a high end turntable of the TMR track. I could copy mine but that would entail me opening it and copying it from my current turntable which is only average. I want to know which sounds best:

1) the itunes download (highly doubtful)
2) an mp3 copy from the 12" vinyl
3) a taped copy from the 12" vinyl
4) the CD-R single promotional release (does anyone have this by the way?)

If you're going to spend 5gs on a turntable what's the problem with buying another copy of the 12" for $8.00? Shit, a needle to do that table justice will be at least another grand. I'm not sure Beastie Boys records really justify the expense of a high end table like that anyway.

The CD Promo is probably going to sound the best out of those options.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I read somewhere that the best recorded LP was by the King of Calypso Harry Belafonte in 1959 entitled "Belafonte at Carnegie Hall". I suspect that Desmond Dekker's "Israelites" would sound wicked on vinyl through high quality gear.

I think you may be right that the CD-R promo would sound the best. Although I would prefer if it was the 12" that won the 'battle'.

By the way does anyone know if the Beasties ever sampled Desmond Dekker?

[mikizee]

Well, I DO have a $5K turntable, with almost a thousand dollar cartridge ($800), I'd do a high quality rip for you but I don't own the 12"!

Oh well.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Too bad you do not live down the street from me as I would almost be willing to open up the 12" to hear it on your sweet system.

Tonight I am off to The Tallest Man on Earth show. I think the acoustics will be just right at the venue. Looking forward to it as it is the type of music that would probably shine on your turntable.

Saw Major Lazer last night (7.5/10) -- the dancers were wicked but I would have liked to have seen some turntablist skills included in the set. Diplo's mixing was good though.

[faz]

I popped into my local music store today on the off chance they had the vinyl. I don't really shop there much what with the low low prices I can buy music for online.

So I popped in and looked for the vinyl single section, it seemed to no longer exist. I wondered round the shop a bit more and noticed a few records, but nothing much. Then I got bored and just flicked through the cds and noticed they had all the reissues (which I'm tempted to go back and buy, support local yo). Then I took off my head phones and noticed they were actually playing a beastie boys album (the reissue, I assume).

Then I asked the guy behind the counter if they had any other vinyl I wasn't seeing. They didn't. But he ordered me one and reckons it shall be there some time next week.

Am I right to think there was only 5000 copies made? Seems it should of been harder to get than that?

[silence7]

Am I right to think there was only 5000 copies made? Seems it should of been harder to get than that?

Walked into my semi-local shop, they had 6 right by the front counter, only bought 2 as I was buying a bunch of other stuff. Gave one away, kept one..

[DJ_Skrilla]

Walked into my semi-local shop, they had 6 right by the front counter, only bought 2 as I was buying a bunch of other stuff. Gave one away, kept one..

Silence7 lives in Cali so it shouldnt be too hard to find. If you look on ebay you can find tons of sealed copies for $6.99 which is what I paid. To be honest, I think the track is okay but wouldnt be my first choice for a single. I got my vinyl and am happy. Dont need to open it as I can just use serato.... I like the Minty-fresh remix better anyways.

[acamus]

I like the Minty-fresh remix better anyways.

me too!