How are you guys feeling about the Adam Yauch thing?

[Kid Presentable]

I know some of you won't post in General since mickill went over and started runining it for us serious fans. Just interested in your thoughts, even if they're mostly the same (except the one or two whom I expect will say they don't care).

[paul jones]

Hoping Yauch has a succesfull operation today.I put on some B Boys tunes on the pub jukebox last night.

[b i o n i c]

its a big bummer, man

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah I hope it goes well as fuck.

[Fern]

it blows. hope all is well....

[bigblu89]

Judging by the video they posted, I'm assuming it's going to be a relatively harmless procedure that he'll have no problems recovering from.

Yes it sucks that the record and any impending tour has been put on the shelf for the moment, but the reasoning is obviously understood.

I just hope he gets better, and everything gets back to normal for them as soon as possible.


P.S. I'm still pissed that Mike D's broken arm made me miss the NJ stop of the "Rhyme & Reason" Beasties/RATM tour. They totally could've got a replacement drummer and had Mike do the tour with his arm in a sling. I saw Missy Elliott do an entire concert on a Little Rascal scooter becasue she broke her leg a few years ago. Suck it up.

Beasties and Rage on the same stage on the same night? I could've crashed my car on the way home from the show, and I would've died a happy man.

[hpdrifter]

I sent a card. Kinda cheesy I know but I wanted to send some well wishes. It's a scary thing.

[Kid Presentable]

Judging by the video they posted, I'm assuming it's going to be a relatively harmless procedure that he'll have no problems recovering from.

Yes it sucks that the record and any impending tour has been put on the shelf for the moment, but the reasoning is obviously understood.

I just hope he gets better, and everything gets back to normal for them as soon as possible.


P.S. I'm still pissed that Mike D's broken arm made me miss the NJ stop of the "Rhyme & Reason" Beasties/RATM tour. They totally could've got a replacement drummer and had Mike do the tour with his arm in a sling. I saw Missy Elliott do an entire concert on a Little Rascal scooter becasue she broke her leg a few years ago. Suck it up.

Beasties and Rage on the same stage on the same night? I could've crashed my car on the way home from the show, and I would've died a happy man.

Oh you're the 'arm in a sling' guy. Hahahaha

[nodanaonlyzuul]

Judging by the video they posted, I'm assuming it's going to be a relatively harmless procedure that he'll have no problems recovering from.

That's how I feel about it. I hope the best for him but it seems like things should be okay. Fingers crossed of course.

[ToucanSpam]

It's scary but he will survive and be back on his feet in no time.

[kll]

After reading what that one girl posted after her experience with the same type of cancer, I really am skeptical about a future tour. I hope it's as harmless as they made it out to be and he doesn't endure what that board member had to. Anytime radiation is involved, you never are the same again.

[mickill]

Yeah, that story kind of drained me of some of my optimism. Not regarding his recovery, it's just I'm realizing how serious the procedure is now.

[Guy Incognito]

it was a shock but seeing how he and ad rock seem to be handling it i was encourage he has the fight for it and he seems like he will be ok.
some of the reactions in BG were a bit o.t.t but i'll put that down to the fact that some of the posters are a bit o.t.t.
getting threads making jokes about yauch deleted was a bit extreme . i mean he's probably gonna laugh at those if he ever read 'em.
look how he was in the video clip, they had to stop each other laughing for the first 20 seconds.
anyhoo, i hope he'll be ok and go on and on to the break of something..

[Randetica]

i was shocked but laughed at the same time

what drama has to happen that the beasties stay serious for once!

[kaiser soze]

I think Yauch is at peace with his situation. He knows he is only human and he knows humans are faced with tremendous challenges. I think he has the wisdom to handle this as humbly and honestly as possible and that gives me some peace as well

That's how a talented, intelligent, and spiritual person makes other people feel. He will be ok with it rather it is a simple or difficult task. His life has been complete for ages and I'm sure he is thankful for it.

This will become another cause the Boys can easily help provide exposure for.

[TurdBerglar]

my dad had something like that. the radiation aged him a good ten years in like a three months span....

they had to take all his teeth out and his mouth/throat was all jacked up from the radiation. he couldn't eat solid foods for like a year. he lost a lot of weight. he's just weak and skinny now and it's taking a whole long time for him to put the weight and muscle back. my dad is like a good 15 years older though.

[Guy Incognito]

the fact that someone who had the same illness shared their whole situation on a thread in BG was amazing.

[RobMoney$]

what drama has to happen that the beasties stay serious for once!


You know, having three people close to me go through various forms of cancer surgeries and treatments within the past 6 months, that annoyed the hell out of me that they were taking it so lightly in the video and I said this^^^ exact thing to myself as I watched it.

It almost offended me.
I brushed it off as Yauch perhaps not being fully aware of just how serious and physically demanding of an ordeal he is up against.

I'm confident he has a good chance of survival, but it's going to be far from easy.

[Guy Incognito]

just cos you laugh about something doesnt necessarily mean you are taking it lightly. i agree he probably isnt totally aware but he's still allowed to have a sense of humour isnt he?

[cj hood]

bummmed out...and this thread's making it worse. besides family, the beasties have been my thing for the past 23 years...anyone who knows me personally knows that.

i wish the best for yauch. but selfishly speaking, if this meant the end for the beasties it would trump what happened on halloween a few years back by far!!!

[monkey]

what drama has to happen that the beasties stay serious for once!

cancer is difficult enough, no one needs a martyr. i don't think it's offensive for an entertainer to pretend to be ok in front of the audience, to make the audience feel better. i feel like it's exactly what parents do when they're sick but they don't want to let the kids know so that they're not worried. we're the kids, we shouldn't worry. there's nothing we could do (unless we have a cancer researcher on the board who found the cure this morning) and there's no reason why he should be up there going "poor me, my life sucks cause i got cancer". positive thinking actually helps people heal themselves quicker (mentally). making a joke out of a serious situation is probably the healthiest thing to do, after doing your proper research and doing the best you can to beat it.

[jennyb]

:mad: Fuck. Cancer. :mad:

[rirv]

How can you be offended by someone being in good spirits about their cancer?:confused:

[ericlee]

I feel the same a Yauch feels. He's aware of the situation, he wasn't freaking out in front of the camera and he's strong and well composed.

Being that's the way he's reacting, I feel that's the way I should react. I don't think he wants anyone to start panicking over it.

Just give all the support and best wishes is the best way to feel about it. Other than that, I'm sure he's got this kicked in the ass.

[funk63]

It's trippy because I too am having my lymph nodes checked sometime soon because they are swollen. I also have what looks like skin cancer on my back so I gotta get that checked out soon, so baww me.
But yeah I have been listening to Pauls' Botique in honor of my boy Yauch.
He was always my favorite :).
LOVE YA YAUCH STAY STRONG!!!!!!!!!

[RobMoney$]

How can you be offended by someone being in good spirits about their cancer?:confused:


I see the Beasties do interviews for the media all the time and they never take anything seriously. I'm not the only one who's posted that I'd like some actual insight from an interview for a change.

They seemed to be getting off on the same foot in the begining of that video. I wondered if they realized just how serious this was.

It's insensitive to not take cancer serious, no?

[rirv]

I think it is insensitive to not take the disease of cancer as a whole seriously, but if it is your own suffering then it is up to you. Seems as though these guys have treated almost everything they have done with a laugh and a joke so why not now?

[roosta]

How can you be offended by someone being in good spirits about their cancer?:confused:

^ yup.

seriously, how can anyone have a problem with that?

[ToucanSpam]

I see what Rob is saying...they do always seem so aloof about their interviews. But, as scary as cancer is, I don't think that Yauch and company have it in them to get super serious and scare the shit out of their fans by talking in detail about what is probably a matter they want to keep to themselves. So they maintain the status quo and shield us from the harsh reality that this cancer could kill him. They probably don't want everyone to focus on that; the world's already full of shitty news and grim realities.

[Bob]

I see the Beasties do interviews for the media all the time and they never take anything seriously. I'm not the only one who's posted that I'd like some actual insight from an interview for a change.

They seemed to be getting off on the same foot in the begining of that video. I wondered if they realized just how serious this was.

It's insensitive to not take cancer serious, no?

i think it's up to the person with cancer to decide how they want to cope with the fact that they have cancer. not you.

i'm not completely sure where you're getting the idea that they're not taking this seriously, either. they made some jokes, sure, but yauch also spoke at length about how he went to the doctor and got diagnosed with cancer and how the prognosis was positive because it hadn't metastasized and...you know, all that, so uh...yeah i think he clearly knows exactly where he is and he's entitled to carry this the way he wants

[The Notorious LOL]

It's insensitive to not take cancer serious, no?

It's insensitive not to let a person with cancer deal with it as they need or wish to. He probably realizes the severity of it, but also realizes his chances...and what reason does he have not to smile? Dude has to this point probably had a life filled with far, far more experiences than the average person has...and at the end of the day (whenever that may be) he can say he made millions of people happy.

[Documad]

No one has a right to tell another person how to deal with his illness. I know that people are acting from a place of concern and confusion but some people are stoking this with hyperbole and it bugs me. It's like this with all illnesses/physical conditions. When a woman is pregnant, a dozen women tell her horrible childbirth stories even though it's pointless and counterproductive. I prefer to send positive vibes. I had emergency surgery last fall, and several people who work with me told me scary stories on the morning before my surgery! On the day after my surgery, one of my friends told me a story about someone she knew who had the same surgery and never fully recovered and I had to stop her and say "for the love of god not now!" People are stupid.

My dad had radiation several times, once on his jaw, and it didn't take him out. It gave him a tan in that spot. And they're getting better at radiation all the time (my dad had his in the 1980s).

Most of you are younger than me. In my group of friends my age, a huge number have had cancer and had a full recovery. And Yauch is in great shape for his age and undoubtedly has a skilled medical team. By the way, a patient's positive attitude can work miracles. I've seen that first hand. I hope the other two Beasties keep Yauch laughing.

EDIT: I feel dirty posting in these threads. :o

[Justin]

hope all is well. I'm sure we'll get some type of update next week.

Anytime I read about someone having cancer it makes me think of my late grandfather. He had probably the worst kind of cancer, Pancreatic. The man REFUSED to take Morphine for his pain. He never complained about his pain. When someone would ask him he'd say "I'm fine"

I only saw him take Tylenol.

When I'm having a shitty day, complaining about something stupid or just being a little bitch, I think about what he endured and that my problems are NOTHING.


Anyways, I know that yauch's form is no where close as serious as the pancreatic is, I just hope that everything goes well with his operation.

[Randetica]

cancer is difficult enough, no one needs a martyr. i don't think it's offensive for an entertainer to pretend to be ok in front of the audience, to make the audience feel better. i feel like it's exactly what parents do when they're sick but they don't want to let the kids know so that they're not worried. we're the kids, we shouldn't worry. there's nothing we could do (unless we have a cancer researcher on the board who found the cure this morning) and there's no reason why he should be up there going "poor me, my life sucks cause i got cancer". positive thinking actually helps people heal themselves quicker (mentally). making a joke out of a serious situation is probably the healthiest thing to do, after doing your proper research and doing the best you can to beat it.

i didnt think it was offensive and some of my family members died of cancer

their laughing made me laugh too and i just thought thats so typical beastie boys

im exactly like this too, i handle most critical situations with humor
i couldnt even stay serious at my grandpa's funeral, it's easier to get over with that way

[Schmeltz]

All I can say is that I've been a fan of the Beasties since the Check Your Head era, when I was just a little kid, and that throughout my own exploration of their musical evolution, it's always been Yauch's lyrics that I've found the most inspirational. His personal discovery and interpretation of the Buddhist philosophy, and the manner in which he's translated it into both his music and his personal life, is something that I have looked up to for many years, to say nothing of his compassionate, humanitarian activism. He's a consummate example for anyone who wishes to turn their life and their human perspective around, and I'll always be grateful for the way he used his success to show others the possibilities that lie within themselves.

So good luck, MCA. Namaste.

[RobMoney$]

i think it's up to the person with cancer to decide how they want to cope with the fact that they have cancer. not you.

And it's up to me how to react to his behavior anyway I feel like.

I'm not telling anyone how to deal with anything.
I stated MY reaction to them giggling during the announcement.


Like I said earlier, I've dealt with too many people who are close to me having to go through multiple surgeries, chemo, and radiation oncology recently.
It's serious business to me. I don't appreciate people turning it into a joke, even for a second.

[ericlee]

can you just let the man have his illness in peace?

The guy is sick and here's everyone bickering which isn't helping anything at all.

[Bob]

And it's up to me how to react to his behavior anyway I feel like.

I'm not telling anyone how to deal with anything.
I stated MY reaction to them giggling during the announcement.


Like I said earlier, I've dealt with too many people who are close to me having to go through multiple surgeries, chemo, and radiation oncology recently.
It's serious business to me. I don't appreciate people turning it into a joke, even for a second.

i don't think yauch thinks his cancer is a joke

[RobMoney$]

If his surgery was yesterday, I'm sure he's not taking it lightly today.
Who knows, maybe he was high when he made that video?

It's not like I'm going to write him an angry letter or anything.

[Guy Incognito]

If his surgery was yesterday, I'm sure he's not taking it lightly today.
Who knows, maybe he was high when he made that video?

It's not like I'm going to write him an angry letter or anything.

you are being a bit hypocritical now. saying you thought it was a bit offensive to make light of a situation and then say he might have been high when he was telling the world of his serious illness actually is offensive.

eric, yes you are right but i felt i needed to say that.

[Randetica]

he probably wouldnt have laughed if ad rock wasnt been there, so if you want to blame someone.. blame ad rock!

[rirv]

he probably wouldnt have laughed if ad rock wasnt been there, so if you want to blame someone.. blame ad rock!

Typical Austrian blaming a Jew.

[b i o n i c]

I see the Beasties do interviews for the media all the time and they never take anything seriously. I'm not the only one who's posted that I'd like some actual insight from an interview for a change.

They seemed to be getting off on the same foot in the begining of that video. I wondered if they realized just how serious this was.

It's insensitive to not take cancer serious, no?



haha, what?

[Randetica]

Typical Austrian blaming a Jew.

now why you say that? ONLY cause im born and grew up in austria and are attracted to hitler and spit on all jews?
na und?

bah, typical rirv ignorance

[Dorothy Wood]

I feel like he will be okay, and even if he's not, he has lived a full and lovely life.

I'm not sad or worried, I just hope that his family is dealing with it alright.


I am pretty disappointed in some of the selfishness displayed in reaction to the news though, in fact I'm flabbergasted. if someone wants to giggle about their own god damn cancer, they can. good humor is nature's medicine.

[kaiser soze]

This is outrageous that people are arguing over how someone should react to Their Life

I find it terrible naive and selfish. Some people have been exceptionally positive and active in their sickness. Yauch's attitude should be a reminder that he is STILL ALIVE, and people should respect his situation by being positive.

I hate disease just as much as the next but we all should realize we are all human, including our most beloved musicians, actors, athletes, poets, comedians, scientists, politicians, etc. etc.

Turning this thread into a an argument is fucking outrageous and immature. Share how you feel and respect how others feel (including Yauch)

He will be alright. It is his life. It will take him where he needs to go.

[TurdBerglar]

OUTRAGEOUS! :mad:

[RobMoney$]

Share how you feel and respect how others feel (including Yauch)


:confused: That's all I did tho.



He could put it in a jar of formaldehyde and put it on stage on the next tour for all I care.
Show it on the jumbo screen.
Hell, make it the cover of the new album too.
It's his right if that's how he chooses to deal with it.
Apparently I'd be out of line for being put off by it though, right?

I don't know why everyone's taking MY being a bit put off by them giggling and making it such a big deal?

[ericlee]

Hey Adam, whenever you're done with having cancer and all, can you please compare our arguments about your cancer and tell us which one fits you the most?

Regards and get well soon.

ericlee.

[Bob]

:

I don't know why everyone's taking MY being a bit put off by them giggling and making it such a big deal?

my feeling is just that if i had cancer, and i chose to cope with it by keeping my spirits up and maintaining my sense of humor and someone said "i'm offended by how you're dealing with your cancer, you should be more upset about this" i'd be slightly bothered

[RobMoney$]

"More upset" is not what I said at all. :confused:
I believe I used the words "more seriously".


Just try to take it seriously for 5 minutes in your announcement speech.
I think other people dealing with cancer deserve that modicum of respect.

[jennyb]

If I were in Yauch's position I'd be tempted to just say 'fuck you all, I got cancer and it's none of anyone's gd business" ...and lock myself away with my close loved ones. I feel eternally grateful for how he shared the news with all of us in "his" way. I hope his surgery went well and would appreciate any updates but don't expect any. My thoughts are really with him and his inner circle.

[Bob]

Just try to take it seriously for 5 minutes in your announcement speech.

he did, though...

[Kid Presentable]

Just try to take it seriously for 5 minutes in your announcement speech.
I think other people dealing with cancer deserve that modicum of respect.

Not to jump on your point as has been done better in the preceding posts, but I believe there was about a 70/30 'serious to mirthful' ratio in that video. It's not like he used furry puppets to explain the condition. Hats off to you for speaking your mind, though. Nobody can tell you how to react.

[skra75]

I tend not to worry about it. I don't know Yauch personally, thusly, don't feel compelled to be in any way involved with any kind of worrying. But, He seems like a cool enough guy and I hope the best for him. I'm sure he'll be fine. Things work out for the best for good people.

[laura]

i was shocked but laughed at the same time

what drama has to happen that the beasties stay serious for once!same here. first time I watched I was at work, but without sound. I saw those two kids laughing... then watched again at home... and I was> :confused:

[ms.peachy]

Things work out for the best for good people.

I'm sure you didn't mean it to come off this way, but that's really kind of a kick in the stomach to those of us who have loved "good people" who have died of cancer. It's pretty much an equal-opportunity destroyer.

[Knuckles]

It's pretty much an equal-opportunity destroyer.

That it is. (n)