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kaiser soze

08-04-2009, 04:07 PM

And now the two U.S. journalists who have been held have been pardoned

http://hosted2.ap.org/vastr/APHome/Article_2009-08-04-AS-NKorea-Journalists-Held/id-p0105d20de324455292a841eadc68b872

Sometimes diplomacy works (y)

Echewta

08-04-2009, 04:24 PM

Clinton for the win!

DroppinScience

08-04-2009, 05:35 PM

This is a great development! Good for Bill.

RobMoney$

08-04-2009, 05:59 PM

I'm considering getting total back piece of Clinton's portrait and a waving American flag as a backdrop.

Anyone else think it's kind of funny how he's PWNING his wife a little,

RobMoney$

08-04-2009, 06:11 PM

cnn.com front page has pics of the two women, and one his smiling holding an italian sub!

I don't know why, but this killed me...

http://www.cnn.com/

kaiser soze

08-04-2009, 06:18 PM

oh my I almost died

PWN FTW LOL!

RobMoney$

08-04-2009, 08:16 PM

Clinton currently carrying more clout than Obama, over 8 years after he was in office, is the biggest PWN of them all tho.

b i o n i c

08-04-2009, 08:24 PM

i read somewhere that kim jung il didnt want to see any of the other (mostly) senators that offered to go since it would be out of the question for president obama to go himself. he considered only john kerry or bubba

excellent choice the obama administration made sending good ole bill over there(y)

Documad

08-04-2009, 08:30 PM

I'm glad the women are out of there. My heart went out to them and their families. I'm a bit uncomfortable with the precedent this sets but right now I'm okay with it.

b i o n i c

08-05-2009, 01:05 AM

i like bill clinton better as a diplomat than as president

Documad

08-05-2009, 07:52 AM

i like bill clinton better as a diplomat than as president

That's how I feel about Carter.

Michelle*s_Farm

08-05-2009, 10:46 AM

Looking good Bill? Look a little Rumsfeld from the 80s.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8182807.stm

I stopped liking Bill Clinton when I found out about his murderous streak (see link below for the 'facts'):

http://home.earthlink.net/~mrnetwork/death.html

Actually I never liked the phoney even if he is not the murderous cretin these people claim him to be.

afronaut

08-05-2009, 10:51 AM

That's how I feel about Carter.

I think that's how everybody feels about Carter.

yeahwho

08-05-2009, 11:53 AM

I stopped liking Bill Clinton when I found out about his murderous streak (see link below for the 'facts'):

http://home.earthlink.net/~mrnetwork/death.html

Actually I never liked the phoney even if he is not the murderous cretin these people claim him to be.

This post provided me with some much needed comedy after reading that Pittsburgh shooter George Sodini's web diary. As I read down the list of deaths surrounding Clinton I came across this one,

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Doesn't that sort of make a person pause and think a bit about the legitimacy of all the other claims?

I'm hoping this is comedy.

Documad

08-05-2009, 02:03 PM

I teared up when I saw the women get off the plane.

yeahwho

08-05-2009, 07:56 PM

Great Day. I'm really proud of this because as an American I like the World to see us in a better light than bullshit rhetoric and fucked up wars.

That is international diplomacy, it is a statement to the world that beyond the strengths of the military lies the strength of communication.

The lives of two young women in exchange for a stony-faced photograph in front of a wave mural? I'd say that's a pretty good deal! Good work, Bill!

RobMoney$

08-05-2009, 08:41 PM

The lives of two young women in exchange for a stony-faced photograph in front of a wave mural? I'd say that's a pretty good deal! Good work, Bill!

I'd bet there was a substantial amount of money and other goods involved in this transaction going to N.Korea.

RobMoney$

08-05-2009, 08:44 PM

That's how I feel about Carter.

I think that's how everybody feels about Carter.

Does anyone in their right mind believe for one second that Carter could have pulled this off?

yeahwho

08-05-2009, 10:43 PM

Does anyone in their right mind believe for one second that Carter could have pulled this off?

Carter's cool, I don't know why so many people trash the man. He is a stellar citizen. His presidency wasn't nearly as horrible as many before and after him.

The relevancy of him going to North Korea seems moot, Gore is the man who actually deserves the most credit (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/04/north-korea-welcomes-bill_n_250682.html) for the return of Euna Lee and Laura Ling.

If these two journalists work for somebody other than Al Gores Current TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_TV) I'm not too sure how this all would have worked out.

Dorothy Wood

08-05-2009, 11:34 PM

so, nobody's concerned about the photo op being used for North Korean propaganda? and the fact that they were just like, "hey, bring us Bill Clinton", and we just sent him over there?

I mean, if we're just gonna send Bill Clinton around the world to rescue people, I guess that's fine. it just doesn't seem plausible.

don't get me wrong, I'm glad those ladies are home safe. I just worry that this will only promote capturing people and holding them...for ransom, basically, rather than deter it.

I don't know, this article brings up some interesting points: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/04/AR2009080401486.html

and...believe it or not, I'm kinda in agreement with McCain on this.
http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/08/05/mccain-sees-nkorea-as-using-clinton-visit-for-propaganda/

omg

Documad

08-06-2009, 12:06 AM

so, nobody's concerned about the photo op being used for North Korean propaganda? and the fact that they were just like, "hey, bring us Bill Clinton", and we just sent him over there?

That's where I started last night, but I'm not as worried about that anymore. This wasn't really something Clinton did, it was apparently something our government did. Then they asked Clinton to do it. For all the tough talking we do, our government apparently wants to find a way to talk to N. Korea and this is a foot in the door? I don't know.

I still don't like the precedent but I just don't see it having a big impact.

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 12:52 AM

so, nobody's concerned about the photo op being used for North Korean propaganda? and the fact that they were just like, "hey, bring us Bill Clinton", and we just sent him over there?

omg

Naw, Maureen Dowd's dorky column (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/opinion/05dowd.html)did have a few choice paragraphs I enjoyed today, she's irritating but she can really twist out the words like nobodies business when prodded.

“Despite decades of bipartisan U.S. rhetoric about not negotiating with terrorists for the release of hostages,” John Bolton wrote for The Washington Post’s Web site, “it seems that the Obama administration not only chose to negotiate, but to send a former president to do so.”

But the former Bush bullies have no credibility on diplomacy. They spent eight years wrecking it, and the score for them on North Korea is 0-6; zero meetings with Kim and enough plutonium for six nuclear bombs.

As usual the comments (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/opinion/05dowd.html?sort=recommended), particularly the first few tempered her ed/op piece quite nicely.

Dorothy Wood

08-06-2009, 01:58 AM

Naw, Maureen Dowd's dorky column (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/opinion/05dowd.html)did have a few choice paragraphs I enjoyed today, she's irritating but she can really twist out the words like nobodies business when prodded.

“Despite decades of bipartisan U.S. rhetoric about not negotiating with terrorists for the release of hostages,” John Bolton wrote for The Washington Post’s Web site, “it seems that the Obama administration not only chose to negotiate, but to send a former president to do so.”

But the former Bush bullies have no credibility on diplomacy. They spent eight years wrecking it, and the score for them on North Korea is 0-6; zero meetings with Kim and enough plutonium for six nuclear bombs.

As usual the comments (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/opinion/05dowd.html?sort=recommended), particularly the first few tempered her ed/op piece quite nicely.

geez louise, you were right about the dorky part. good lord. I can't believe she used the term "schadenfreude", anybody have 50 cents?

anyway, I think this part is something I overlooked: Bill Clinton will bring back valuable information about Kim’s mental and physical health.

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 02:14 AM

geez louise, you were right about the dorky part. good lord. I can't believe she used the term "schadenfreude", anybody have 50 cents?

anyway, I think this part is something I overlooked:
Quote:
Bill Clinton will bring back valuable information about Kim’s mental and physical health.

and not to mention some great new pantsuit ideas (http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2009/08/05/clintonkim-topper.jpg) for Hilliary

Kim Jong Il: Now you see, the changing of the worrd is inevitabre!
Clinton: I'm sorry, it's what?
Kim Jong Il: Inevit, inevitabre.
Clinton: One more time.
Kim Jong Il: [shouts] Inevitabre! Things are inevitabrey going to change! Goddamnit, open your fucking ears!

Dorothy Wood

08-06-2009, 02:19 AM

hmm, I think I'm going to have to give those last two jokes a WAMP WAHHH

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 02:23 AM

hmm, I think I'm going to have to give those last two jokes a WAMP WAHHH

shits comedy gold, better back up and re tag side split

Dorothy Wood

08-06-2009, 02:30 AM

nah, not a fan dissing hilary's dress style or mocking asians. sorry bro.

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 02:35 AM

not a fan of puppet movies (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/quotes) are you

Dorothy Wood

08-06-2009, 02:52 AM

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 02:58 AM

ah ha, that's what it's from. I thought it was southpark, same difference I guess.

I laughed a lot at that movie, but not at that part. I just don't think it's funny to make fun of the way people pronounce things in their second language. I'm just not a fan.

c'mon, just give me a little laugh (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1J11lnNV_GI/SAK9vW7nPwI/AAAAAAAAAzs/Psl_SCvC8Y4/s320/bill+and+hillary.jpg)

Dorothy Wood

08-06-2009, 03:05 AM

meh, I respect Hilary Clinton, therefore I don't find jokes about her outfits to be funny.

sorry! *shrugs*

Bob

08-06-2009, 04:21 AM

That's where I started last night, but I'm not as worried about that anymore. This wasn't really something Clinton did, it was apparently something our government did. Then they asked Clinton to do it. For all the tough talking we do, our government apparently wants to find a way to talk to N. Korea and this is a foot in the door? I don't know.

I still don't like the precedent but I just don't see it having a big impact.

one man subjects himself to north korean propaganda (http://9gag.com/photo/9870_full.jpg), two women don't have to rot to death in political prison. fair trade i think

valvano

08-06-2009, 11:40 AM

it was all a scam bankrolled by Clinton's deep pocket friends in Hollywood:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08062009/news/nationalnews/bills_hwood_blockbuster_183236.htm

:rolleyes:

suckers...

Echewta

08-06-2009, 12:02 PM

So you are saying you rather have had tax payers money pay for it all. I have a feeling you would have posted an article on the costs for that too, if that were the case.

Privately funded release of two American journalist. Sounds pretty right wing ok to me. I'm confussed. Is it because its private Hollywood money?

saz

08-06-2009, 12:21 PM

probably. but maybe it would've been okay if the funds were provided be a right-wing celebrity.

Echewta

08-06-2009, 12:28 PM

Plus, Shock and Awe was much more Hollywood than anything I've seen in a long long time. With an honarable mention to the spin about the female soldier in the begging of the occupation of Iraq and how she held off Iraq soldiers by herself while being shot up and was an American hero etc.

saz

08-06-2009, 12:41 PM

you'd figure the right would love hollywood, considering all of the violent and super patriotic pro-usa war movies they make.

yeahwho

08-06-2009, 01:20 PM

Hey it would pf been cool if Trey Parker and Matt Stone produced it, then the whole scene could of been done with puppets.

DroppinScience

08-06-2009, 02:09 PM

you'd figure the right would love hollywood, considering all of the violent and super patriotic pro-usa war movies they make.

Yeah, and then those jerks like Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, and Tim Robbins go and muck it all up for the rest of us.

Bob

08-06-2009, 02:54 PM

it was all a scam bankrolled by Clinton's deep pocket friends in Hollywood:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08062009/news/nationalnews/bills_hwood_blockbuster_183236.htm

:rolleyes:

suckers...

ugh i feel like such a dope. send the journalists back