Glenn Beck is a complete fucking hypocrit

[roosta]

Jon Stewart nails it

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation

[Bob]

colbert also nails him, as are beck's adverisers

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/246560/august-13-2009/glenn-harried-glenn-lost

[RobMoney$]

HYPOCRITE


How appropriate tho,

I happen to find people who let their opinions on politics to be shaped by satirists to be morons.

[Bob]

that's super

[DroppinScience]

So being shaped by right-wing pundits and plagiarizing other people's works is the epitome of intelligence?

[RobMoney$]

For the 300000000000000000000th time, I watch no pundits, left nor right winged. I'm wingless
It's just such a lazy and baseless retort at this point, let it go already.

Also, it's pretty funny how you use Beck and Limbaugh to put "conservatives" down all the time, yet make thread after thread about Stewart and Colbert segments and all types of uberleft-slanted website articles.

[Bob]

For the 300000000000000000000th time, I watch no pundits, left nor right winged. I'm wingless
It's just such a lazy and baseless retort at this point, let it go already.

Also, it's pretty funny how you use Beck and Limbaugh to put "conservatives" down all the time, yet make thread after thread about Stewart and Colbert segments and all types of uberleft-slanted website articles.

please don't put colbert and stewart in the same category as beck and limbaugh. people like glenn beck and rush limbaugh are in the business of telling people what to think, of manipulation - they try to scare people into agreeing with them by referencing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYbqZf53hHk) the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWT5Q7TloM) nazis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwfTeJ5_cs) and pretending to cry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ebo4UhloU)

stewart and colbert are comedians. they obviously have their points of view and they aren't trying to hide them but they aren't trying to tell you what to think, they're trying to make you laugh by making fun of the people who are trying to tell you what to think, and i absolutely love how good they are at doing that. yes, the shows are liberal meccas but uhhhh liberals are the ones who find the shows funny so i don't know what that's meant to prove

i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you aren't going to agree with any of that but damn, the two are not remotely similar. yes, i regularly watch the daily show and the colbert report, and yes, i love to post clips to the shows, but it's not because they tell me what to think, it's because they do a fabulous job of making jokes about the things i'm already thinking about

[yeahwho]

please don't put colbert and stewart in the same category as beck and limbaugh. people like glenn beck and rush limbaugh are in the business of telling people what to think, of manipulation - they try to scare people into agreeing with them by referencing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYbqZf53hHk) the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWT5Q7TloM) nazis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwfTeJ5_cs) and pretending to cry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ebo4UhloU)

stewart and colbert are comedians. they obviously have their points of view and they aren't trying to hide them but they aren't trying to tell you what to think, they're trying to make you laugh by making fun of the people who are trying to tell you what to think, and i absolutely love how good they are at doing that. yes, the shows are liberal meccas but uhhhh liberals are the ones who find the shows funny so i don't know what that's meant to prove

i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you aren't going to agree with any of that but damn, the two are not remotely similar. yes, i regularly watch the daily show and the colbert report, and yes, i love to post clips to the shows, but it's not because they tell me what to think, it's because they do a fabulous job of making jokes about the things i'm already thinking about

It's just freedom of choice, I never watch either of the shows but if given the choice between pathetic and comedy I'll usually go with the comedy. Aren't all 4 of these shows under the FOX TV consortium of entertainment anyways? They play off each other so well, sort of like hedging your bet in Vegas.

[Schmeltz]

For the 300000000000000000000th time, I watch no pundits, left nor right winged. I'm wingless

Oh yeah that's right - you get your wings from things other people have already written, and then you copy and paste them and pretend that they're your own opinions. Of course.

So what is it that you yourself do, exactly?

[DroppinScience]

Let's clear up a few things:

1) Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert appear on Comedy Central, which is owned by Viacom. There is no Rupert Murdoch/News Corp/FOX News connection whatsoever. Viacom is a different media mogul altogether. As far as I'm aware, Rush Limbaugh's radio show isn't affiliated with any FOX entity.

2) Here's the thing Rob does not understand (and never will) about The Daily Show. They're not telling people what to think, they're telling people TO think. I know when Rob posts something by Michelle Bachmann or Michelle Malkin (this is when he even attributes the source, the rest of the time he pretends that he wrote it), you immediately seem to buy into their arguments hook, line, and sinker. You even believe them long after their claims are debunked. It really is hard to comprehend that you claim to never listen or watch any of these right-wing pundits when you come on this forum and compare Obama to Nazi Germany, something your friends at FOX also do. I don't think this is a coincidence.

[roosta]

HYPOCRITE


How appropriate tho,

I happen to find people who let their opinions on politics to be shaped by satirists to be morons.

ah, the beauty is...Stewart's opinion didn't shape my opinion, the two videos he played that featured Beck talking did. Beck did it all himself.

But, i mean, your whole shtick is trying to shoe-horn in an opinion on ANYTHING remotely liberal posted here, so work away...

[Dorothy Wood]

I don't really understand why rob would write "tho" in a rant against someone's spelling.


anyway, glenn beck needs to be fired, he needs to go away forever. he's a danger to everyone.

I joined this group on facebook, Glenn Beck Sucks, and the guy who runs it sent this out:
I just got done talking with, somewhat by accident, a handful of seniors via a few other various facebook groups. They are depressed with the healthcare reform situation. I soon realized that these folks are very lonely or alone and think they have no place left in our world as a result of this dis-information agenda. What has been said by the health insurance cos., GLENN BECK, etc., has made many of them very, very depressed. This needs immediate attention. Please help me figure out a way to address this and message me with ideas. I am off to bed and hope to hear from you in the morning.



any ideas from you guys? I honestly don't know what to do, make a slide show called, "you're alright, grandpa"? go around and disable/block fox news in nursing homes?

[Echewta]

I'm watching Conan The Barb. 2 which I feel is telling me TO think as well.

[roosta]

I don't really understand why rob would write "tho" in a rant against someone's spelling.


well spotted.
maybe he's a moron :confused:

[yeahwho]

Let's clear up a few things:

1) Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert appear on Comedy Central, which is owned by Viacom. There is no Rupert Murdoch/News Corp/FOX News connection whatsoever. Viacom is a different media mogul altogether. As far as I'm aware, Rush Limbaugh's radio show isn't affiliated with any FOX entity.

Thanks. The irony of hedging your bet seemed like a great idea. I remember reading an article about Murdoch that said if there was money to be made in a liberal left style of news show he would be doing that show. Seems as if that article was way off the mark, unless this current incarnation of pundits is parody.

Jon Stewart was brilliant when he called MSNBC on the utter bullshit they propose to be financial information.

[Documad]

I DVR The Daily Show every night. The first 5-10 minutes are often hilarious. I rarely watch the rest of the show. I also DVR Colbert -- it hasn't been as funny lately but sometimes he's amazing. They both have enough laugh out loud moments to keep me watching.

[DroppinScience]

Jon Stewart was brilliant when he called MSNBC on the utter bullshit they propose to be financial information.

Actually, it was CNBC, but yes, definitely one of the highlights of the Daily Show!

[kaiser soze]

yeah they may be satire but at least they're honest

[synch]

HYPOCRITE


How appropriate tho,

I happen to find people who let their opinions on politics to be shaped by satirists to be morons.Out of morbid curiosity, what is your opinion about Beck?

[yeahwho]

Actually, it was CNBC, but yes, definitely one of the highlights of the Daily Show!

Damn. I really have lost it with what is happening on TV. I admit I'm a NYTimes junkie.

MSNBC does something, what do they do?

[RobMoney$]

I don't watch his show, so my opinion is just the blanket opinion I have for all of these people who are paid to comment on politics.
They're just trying to keep a job.
They survive off controversy. Without it, they have no show and therefore no employment. Often times they have to create controversy when there is none, and it becomes difficult to decipher when they're manufacturing it, and when it's honest after a while because they become such good liars.
They're no different than sports talk radio.
These people are happy when controversy happens because it means they've found a new well of info for material for their show. It's pathetic.

The only thing more pathetic is when someone thinks their pundits are honest and the ones on the other side are liars.
They're all pilot fish.
I believe the only intelligent solution is to dismiss ALL of the commentary and form your own opinions.

[yeahwho]

It isn't difficult to decipher manufactured controversy, just grab a TV Guide and see what time the broadcast airs.

[RobMoney$]

What is this "TV Guide" you speak of?


Actually, I can picture Dorothy Wood sitting around her house still reading TV Guide and getting up to physically turn the dial on her old analog TV.

[Dorothy Wood]

I really haven't watched much t.v. on a television since the digital switch. but when I do, it's in the living room where there's basic cable, a t.v. guide channel and a remote. so there.

however, I mostly only watch PBS. because I am a nerd.

otherwise, hulu is my t.v.

[Bob]

I don't watch his show, so my opinion is just the blanket opinion I have for all of these people who are paid to comment on politics.
They're just trying to keep a job.
They survive off controversy. Without it, they have no show and therefore no employment. Often times they have to create controversy when there is none, and it becomes difficult to decipher when they're manufacturing it, and when it's honest after a while because they become such good liars.
They're no different than sports talk radio.
These people are happy when controversy happens because it means they've found a new well of info for material for their show. It's pathetic.

The only thing more pathetic is when someone thinks their pundits are honest and the ones on the other side are liars.
They're all pilot fish.
I believe the only intelligent solution is to dismiss ALL of the commentary and form your own opinions.

i'm not sure how you feel you're qualified to comment on the shows so confidently when you don't actually watch them

[RobMoney$]

I know enough about them to know they're a waste of time.

How much time do you need to see someone like Beck to determine he's a phony?
Maybe I'm just quicker at reading people than you are?

[yeahwho]

I know enough about them to know they're a waste of time.

How much time do you need to see someone like Beck to determine he's a phony?
Maybe I'm just quicker at reading people than you are?

Not everyone is smart, a lot of people buy into every word these talking heads espouse. It's nice to know that another viewpoint is out there, I'm not proposing a return of the fairness doctrine. Yet.



The seriousness of false information should always be kept in check.

Fear for Obama's Safety Grows as Hate Groups Thrive on Racial Backlash (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8324481&page=1)

[Bob]

I know enough about them to know they're a waste of time.

How much time do you need to see someone like Beck to determine he's a phony?
Maybe I'm just quicker at reading people than you are?

must be

[synch]

I know enough about them to know they're a waste of time.

How much time do you need to see someone like Beck to determine he's a phony?
Maybe I'm just quicker at reading people than you are?I don't really consider him a phony. I believe most of the Fox people actually believe what they do is right. That doesn't make them less scary, but I wouldn't consider them phony.

Batshit crazy is a term that comes to mind in Beck's specific case.

[kaiser soze]

OLIGARH

1 letter is missing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0OUXkZO8vE&eurl

[yeahwho]

OLIGARH

1 letter is missing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0OUXkZO8vE&eurl


what a bedwetter

[Bob]

glenn beck himself provides the missing C if you know what i mean

(i'm saying he's a cunt)

[DroppinScience]

OLIGARH

1 letter is missing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0OUXkZO8vE&eurl

I didn't know RobMoney got his own show on FOX News!

[Dorothy Wood]

I honestly don't know how anybody takes this asshole seriously. he's a political televangelist.

[RobMoney$]

I didn't know RobMoney got his own show on FOX News!


I just think it's funny how people who claim to hate the guy so much seem to be totally aware of every word the guy utters.

[synch]

At least it's an informed opinion. There are lots of people that hate stuff they know fuck all about.

[kaiser soze]

I just think it's funny how people who claim to hate the guy so much seem to be totally aware of every word the guy utters.

It's hard to avoid the hilarity, plus isn't there a saying "Hold your enemies closer"

I'm pretty sure you have used that excuse yourself

[yeahwho]

I just think it's funny how people who claim to hate the guy so much seem to be totally aware of every word the guy utters.

Apparently it's backfiring, the liberal boycott.

UPDATED: As boycott continues, Glenn Beck's audience swells (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html)

Beck attracted 2.81 million viewers Monday, his third-largest audience since his show launched on Fox News in January, according to Nielsen Media Research data provided by the network. On Tuesday, nearly 2.7 million viewers tuned in, his fifth-largest viewership to date. And the conservative host got a plug from former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, who urged people to watch his program in a post on her Facebook page.

[RobMoney$]

So he's like Howard Stern, in a way for you?
You don't like him, but you tune in to see what he's gonna say next?

That's kind of hilarious.
You're part of his reason for his success.

[RobMoney$]

Apparently it's backfiring, the liberal boycott.

UPDATED: As boycott continues, Glenn Beck's audience swells (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html)

Beck attracted 2.81 million viewers Monday, his third-largest audience since his show launched on Fox News in January, according to Nielsen Media Research data provided by the network. On Tuesday, nearly 2.7 million viewers tuned in, his fifth-largest viewership to date. And the conservative host got a plug from former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, who urged people to watch his program in a post on her Facebook page.


Boycotts usually just add fuel to the fire.
Seems to be the case here as well.

[QueenAdrock]

So he's like Howard Stern, in a way for you?
You don't like him, but you tune in to see what he's gonna say next?

That's kind of hilarious.
You're part of his reason for his success.

Not really. We know what Beck says due to youtube links, and clips we see on Daily Show (BOO, HISS, I know) and news organizations, as well as articles. We don't watch his show on FOX, just the parts broadcast elsewhere. I'd bash my head up against a wall if I watched a full hour of his drivel, it's hard enough just to see what he has to say for 5 minutes.

Can't speak for other people who hate him, though.

[RobMoney$]

Not really. We know what Beck says due to youtube links, and clips we see on Daily Show (BOO, HISS, I know) and news organizations, as well as articles. We don't watch his show on FOX, just the parts broadcast elsewhere.

So you only know what the liberal media outlets tell you about his show?
That doesn't seem fair, does it?

[DroppinScience]

So you only know what the liberal media outlets tell you about his show?
That doesn't seem fair, does it?

Unedited clips of his broadcast appearing on YouTube is not "the liberal media."

Exactly as kaiser says, "Know your enemy."

[RobMoney$]

Enemy...really Lambert?

[kaiser soze]

absolutely, Beck is just another cog in the right-wing extremist machine

here's another idiot, a pastor supposedly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GD89JJZlWI&eurl

http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/19782

http://www.examiner.com/x-19365-Indianapolis-Statehouse-Examiner~y2009m8d31-Pastor-Steven-Anderson-calls-for-the-death-of-the-President

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/31/phoenix-pastor-draws-protests-telling-church-prays-obamas-death/

I hope the Secret Service and IRS do the job right when it comes to these freaks

[RobMoney$]

I'm sure the Secret Service will handle that nut job appropriatley.

On the other hand, the IRS isn't an arm of the government you can use to punish your political "enemy".

[kaiser soze]

If it is a church violating the Separation of Church and State - remove their tax exempt status, it is illegal to make death threats to any political leader it is just as illegal and violates local and federal tax exemption laws to do it under the guise of religion.

[kaiser soze]

Another one of beck's zombies - a pastor preaching politics - remove their tax exemption please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3pN1eyvpU&eurl

I love how they bitch about their constitutional rights being violated - but yet there were no peeps about the Patriot Act, Free Speech Zones, Warranless Wiretapping, Illegal Wars, The raping of our land....

[yeahwho]

Another one of beck's zombies - a pastor preaching politics - remove their tax exemption please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3pN1eyvpU&eurl

I love how they bitch about their constitutional rights being violated - but yet there were no peeps about the Patriot Act, Free Speech Zones, Warranless Wiretapping, Illegal Wars, The raping of our land....

What a repugnant ass, he is using a pulpit to decry the United States of America and perpetuate Glenn Beck's 912 project. This guy is spreading the word of a baby man. Does anybody have a clip of Glenn Beck behaving as a reasonable adult? Is that even possible after all of his self flagellating the past year?

[Whatitis]

Beck reminds me of sleezy used car salesmen. Can't stand the guy.

[rirv]

http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

:confused::confused::confused:

[QueenAdrock]

^^Ohmygod, those links off to the left are really goddamn funny. Especially the one with the scribblings, as seen here:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/i-watch-glenn-becks-comedy-tour-regret-it/

[Dorothy Wood]

holy shit, that is a hilarious meme.

[yeahwho]

Glenn Beck is scheduled to be here in Washington State to receive the Key to the town of Mount Vernon WA. It's a small American Town, known internationally for flowers, specifically Tulips (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=tulips+skagit+valley&aq=0&oq=tulips+ska&aqi=g1&start=0). I'm surprised by all the hype surrounding this ass coming here, but it does make for a great day out.

Mount Vernon not united on mayor's 'Glenn Beck Day' (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009796296_beck03m.html)

Mayor Bud Norris announced that Beck, who grew up in Mount Vernon, will be on hand to accept the award Sept. 26, which Norris will also proclaim "Glenn Beck Day." Tickets for the Saturday evening event are $25.

Beck's advertiser abandonment has snowballed since he called Obama a racist on July 28, adding that he believed the president has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

Which makes Norris' timing provocative, to say the least. Critics say his announcement amounts to an endorsement of that and other extreme views of the television and nationally syndicated radio commentator — which have also included ruminations on killing filmmaker Michael Moore and poisoning House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, as well as barking like a dog over a Hillary Rodham Clinton audio clip and perpetuating the "death panel" claim about Obama's proposed health-care reform.

"That's certainly their preference if they choose to view it that way," Norris said Wednesday. "This isn't about his political views. It's about recognizing someone who has a history with our city."

Anyway, this should get interesting that I am sure of, Mt. Vernon has a huge Organic Farmer and Leftist streak completely surrounding the town. A highly active political area of the United States.

[Bob]

growing up in a city entitles you to the key to that city? shit, they should just be giving them out left and right

[kaiser soze]

oh my he's an art historian with a twist of conspiracy theorist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg&eur

[kaiser soze]

Dear Glenn,

What Do you mean by White Culture?

Glenn:

uh, well, gurgle gurgle, *shuffle* blub blub, uh, ooooh, hmmmm. How am I the target for questions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZ1qbDyKOM&feature=player_embedded#t=63

excellent question! horrible answer!

[rirv]

That was incredible.

[yeahwho]

That sure was a milquetoast response, he cannot establish an answer for White Culture? Just say the entitled privileged white folks who listen to my show, they are the White Culture.

He'll be here in my State tomorrow (http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/09/city-council-officially-declares-no-connection-to-glenn-beck-day.html)to get the key to the City of Mount Vernon, Washington.

He is insane.

[roosta]

Dear Glenn,

What Do you mean by White Culture?

Glenn:

uh, well, gurgle gurgle, *shuffle* blub blub, uh, ooooh, hmmmm. How am I the target for questions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZ1qbDyKOM&feature=player_embedded#t=63

excellent question! horrible answer!

fucking brilliant.

[Bob]

see...i'm not going to play your game, by answering your questions about the horrible things i say...*smug*

[QueenAdrock]

I like how she asks him if he stands by his statement that Obama is a racist and hates white culture, and he says "All I'm saying is that the American people should ask questions and turn over every last rock to get the answer."

Yeah, but what do YOU think? Oh, wait, you can't answer that without either a) lying or b) being racist (n)

[travesty]

Glenn Beck can not submit , vote on or veto legislation.
Rush Limbaugh can not submit, vote on or veto legislation.
Neither Neil Boortz nor Bill O'Reilly can submit, vote on or veto legislation.

You numbskulls are spending wayyy too much time paying attention to the wrong people! Do you really care what these people say or do? Do you buy the perfume Britney Spears is selling? Do you believe you will get real change in DC just because a Democrat told you...errr wait, scratch that last one.

Let me get this straight..... all of you can spend 3 forum pages attacking someone who makes a living on their OPINIONS but doesn't have the authority to do anything about them? You do know that the more incindiary the opinion the more $$ they make right? Why? Because of dolts like you people who gather in groups of like-minded sheep and talk about it. When you get mad and talk about what he does then you are doing exactly what he wants you to and HE IS GETTING RICHER! Those poeple are not on the air to stroke the Conservative Party's ego. They are on the air to piss the liberals off enough that it makes liberals talk about Conservative view points! Don't get angry because you fell for it, get angry because you fell for it for so long.

If you are getting your opinions of Glen Beck from anywhere other than by watching the Glen Beck show...you are a pea brained sheep and you have no opinion. You're just regurgitating someone else's opinion. Isn't that what you are accusing his "idiot, moron, red-neck, ignorant, old, neo-con, whatever" audience of doing???

Take a good hard look in the mirror and tell me who the hypocrite is now?

PS geniuses- If you are watching anything on youtube it is not UNEDITED.

[travesty]

I like how she asks him if he stands by his statement that Obama is a racist and hates white culture, and he says "All I'm saying is that the American people should ask questions and turn over every last rock to get the answer."

Yeah, but what do YOU think? Oh, wait, you can't answer that without either a) lying or b) being racist (n)

So if you call someone a racist then that means that YOU are a racist?

If that's the case do you wanna go back and check some of your posts for any similar accusations?

[kaiser soze]

Glenn Beck can not submit , vote on or veto legislation.
Rush Limbaugh can not submit, vote on or veto legislation.
Neither Neil Boortz nor Bill O'Reilly can submit, vote on or veto legislation.

No but it is obvious that they CAN effect policy - look at the two individuals who resigned after beck called them out.

You numbskulls are spending wayyy too much time paying attention to the wrong people! Do you really care what these people say or do? Do you buy the perfume Britney Spears is selling? Do you believe you will get real change in DC just because a Democrat told you...errr wait, scratch that last one.

Sorry, but the media is a powerful tool, beck, limbaugh, and o'reilly are not just passive talking heads - they do influence many people - people who call the President a communist, a socialist, a terrorist and display guns at their rallies. Seeing that the Conservative movement and Republican party have weak leadership right now, the talking heads are louder than ever and their fans will flock towards what they like flies on shit. Radio fueled the Rwandan genocides, you really believe that these people are just talking out of their asses?

Let me get this straight..... all of you can spend 3 forum pages attacking someone who makes a living on their OPINIONS but doesn't have the authority to do anything about them?

Oh right, opinions have never caused any trouble in the past :rolleyes:

You do know that the more incindiary the opinion the more $$ they make right? Why? Because of dolts like you people who gather in groups of like-minded sheep and talk about it. When you get mad and talk about what he does then you are doing exactly what he wants you to and HE IS GETTING RICHER!

Last I checked most of his advertisers withdrew their endorsement of his show.

If you are getting your opinions of Glen Beck from anywhere other than by watching the Glen Beck show...you are a pea brained sheep and you have no opinion.

What the fuck are you saying? People who watch glenn beck are well informed?

You're just regurgitating someone else's opinion. Isn't that what you are accusing his "idiot, moron, red-neck, ignorant, old, neo-con, whatever" audience of doing???

This was an interview, I didn't back up any opinion, I just enjoyed the fact that the asshole was put on ice and he squirmed like the worm he is.

Take a good hard look in the mirror and tell me who the hypocrite is now?

glenn beck

PS geniuses- If you are watching anything on youtube it is not UNEDITED.

might I suggest you never turn on your television again.

[QueenAdrock]

So if you call someone a racist then that means that YOU are a racist?

If that's the case do you wanna go back and check some of your posts for any similar accusations?

Saying that someone has a "hatred for white culture" sounds pretty racist to me. "White culture" implies there is a "white race," neither of which exist. "White culture" is something espoused by the Klan and is something that can not be defined, but is defended by them as something that needs to be preserved. So yes, he does sound like a scared racist, someone who is unjustly afraid that this black man who is in power hates white people, with no evidence to back it up. He's trying to appeal to the scared, racist white viewer who also has an irrational fear that Obama hates them and will try rounding them up for extermination or whatever harebrained things they're thinking of.

[travesty]

No but it is obvious that they CAN effect policy - look at the two individuals who resigned after beck called them out.

The can only effect policy because people like you get upset about what they say. As for the people who resigned, either they and the administration are spineless and will not defend themselves and their appointments or they agree with Beck that these people are unfit for service. Can you blame the guy for calling them out? Isn't that what the media is "supposed" to do?

Take Alex Jones for example he's so fucking crazy that no one even cares what he says and thus he is a relative nobody. Beck has hopped around radio for some time now and a few TV stations. He seems to have found a home with the Fox audience but I think even they will tire of his shit like all of his other audiences have. Just give it time, ignore him and he will go away.

My father told me a long time ago to "never let an asshole piss you off".

Sorry, but the media is a powerful tool

No...I am a powerfool tool!

beck, limbaugh, and o'reilly are not just passive talking heads - they do influence many people - people who call the President a communist, a socialist, a terrorist and display guns at their rallies. Seeing that the Conservative movement and Republican party have weak leadership right now, the talking heads are louder than ever and their fans will flock towards what they like flies on shit. Radio fueled the Rwandan genocides, you really believe that these people are just talking out of their asses?

Yes, yes they are just talking heads. The only power they have is to scare people like you who take offense to what they say. The more scared you are, the more power they have over you and it sounds to me like you are pretty fucking scared of them.

Oh right, opinions have never caused any trouble in the past :rolleyes:

Opinions do not cause problems. Acting on those opinions does.

Last I checked most of his advertisers withdrew their endorsement of his show.

But he is still on the air and his contract is still being paid.There are still advertisers willing to support him. As his ratings increase (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-has-most-viewers-of-all-time-last-night/), and they have been since the Boycott started, more advertisers will follow and some of the ones that left will come back. Ratings = $$$ simple as that. However, the less that people think he is newsworthy, the less rating he'll get and eventually "poof" he is gone. In the meantime I find him and people's reaction to him amusing :)


What the fuck are you saying? People who watch glenn beck are well informed?

What I am saying is that if you have only seen snipets of him on the daily show or other programs besides his actual show, you are not getting the full story and your opinion is therefor skewed and suspect. Should I have formed my opinion of Obama just because I saw a few news clips of him calling police officers stupid? Or because I read in the paper that he attended a church with an incindiary Pastor and can be socially linked to former domestic terrorists? No, because that would very dumb of me to do.

This was an interview, I didn't back up any opinion, I just enjoyed the fact that the asshole was put on ice and he squirmed like the worm he is.

Fair enough. I watched it because I kept hoping to get a "up-skirt" shot of Couric as she crossed her legs :eek: That one camera angle was perfect, I know there's some footage of that momment on the cutting room floor somewhere. It was inevitable.

glenn beck

That statement was made in general, not specifically aimed at you.


might I suggest you never turn on your television again.

That's stretching it a bit. Of course all programming is edited. But editing something out of the form of which it originally aired is what I'm getting at.

[roosta]

Let me get this straight..... all of you can spend 3 forum pages attacking someone who makes a living on their OPINIONS but doesn't have the authority to do anything about them?


Fuck sake guys, we wasted 3 forum pages on this.I hope you are suitabley ashamed.Dickheads.

Im sorry i started this thread, I wasted all your time.

[kaiser soze]

travesty

For someone who is telling someone not to be bothered with other people's opinions you seem to be concerned enough with mine.

The thing that bothers me most about beck is this. He does have impressionable fans/listeners/zealots and beck has said some shit that is quite inflammatory. The only time I pick up on something he says is when is is exceptionally bizarre, I pay little attention to any network news (including NBC, CNN, ABC, etc.), but FOX takes the cake with it's partisan shtick and it is something that those who are on the "left" should be concerned about. If you want to tell me not to be, fine - but that is my opinion and you are welcome to ignore it.

It's hard to ignore the fucker when his mug ends up on the cover of Time Magazine. :rolleyes:

You might be right that this guy is just an actor but so was Reagan and look where he ended up.

[travesty]

travesty

For someone who is telling someone not to be bothered with other people's opinions you seem to be concerned enough with mine.

The thing that bothers me most about beck is this. He does have impressionable fans/listeners/zealots and beck has said some shit that is quite inflammatory. The only time I pick up on something he says is when is is exceptionally bizarre, I pay little attention to any network news (including NBC, CNN, ABC, etc.), but FOX takes the cake with it's partisan shtick and it is something that those who are on the "left" should be concerned about. If you want to tell me not to be, fine - but that is my opinion and you are welcome to ignore it.

It's hard to ignore the fucker when his mug ends up on the cover of Time Magazine. :rolleyes:

You might be right that this guy is just an actor but so was Reagan and look where he ended up.

I tend to enjoy your opinions. they are insightful and usually well reasoned however it doesn't BOTHER me when I disagree with them.:)

I happen to think the likes of Olbermann and Ed Schultz are just as fucking whacky as Glenn Beck but most folks basically ignore those tools so you don't hear about them much. The right has basically told these idiots that "we don't really care what you say because we think you have the credibility of a $3 crack-whore." End of story... now these guys are relegated to the back burner while guys like Beck get the cover of Time simply because the left is offended and can't stop talking about him. It's fucking hilarious.

Do you know how "talking smack" works? You say really offensive things to make your opponent get "psyched out", lose concentration and focus, and ultimately the game. Well, the right are the the smack talking kings and the left the smack receiving bitches. Somehow they just never learned how to do it well and always end up losing focus on the game (what happened to the public healthcare option? Guantanamo Closing? Troops coming home?) and crying to mommy about the bullies at school. I call it "The Pussy's Lament" and I love to see the far left fall for it every time like an Ali rope-a-dope.

[DroppinScience]

I happen to think the likes of Olbermann and Ed Schultz are just as fucking whacky as Glenn Beck but most folks basically ignore those tools so you don't hear about them much. The right has basically told these idiots that "we don't really care what you say because we think you have the credibility of a $3 crack-whore." End of story... now these guys are relegated to the back burner while guys like Beck get the cover of Time simply because the left is offended and can't stop talking about him. It's fucking hilarious.

This is patently false. I have yet to see someone like Olbermann do what Glenn Beck or others do. Olbermann does not lie (if anything, he is well-researched and knows how to spell, apparently), he does not spread hate, racism, and homophobia. Yes, Olbermann's rhetoric can be bombastic, but I have yet to see him call for segregated busing (like Rush Limbaugh has done).

And Keith Olbermann hasn't been relegated to the back burner. I've seen him be the subject of much media attention over the years in both print and broadcast media.

[travesty]

This is patently false. I have yet to see someone like Olbermann do what Glenn Beck or others do. Olbermann does not lie (if anything, he is well-researched and knows how to spell, apparently), he does not spread hate, racism, and homophobia. Yes, Olbermann's rhetoric can be bombastic, but I have yet to see him call for segregated busing (like Rush Limbaugh has done).

And Keith Olbermann hasn't been relegated to the back burner. I've seen him be the subject of much media attention over the years in both print and broadcast media.

Well his ratings suck compared his opponents and he ain't on the cover of Time. He might not be on the backburner but here in the states he should have stuck with sports. He signed on to the political media machine for same reason all the other guys do....ego.

5,950,000 results for "olbermann lies" on google...they can't all be false.

Oh and his vicious, defamatory personal attack on Palin weren't "spreading hate"? Pssssshaw.

[DroppinScience]

Well his ratings suck compared his opponents and he ain't on the cover of Time. He might not be on the backburner but here in the states he should have stuck with sports. He signed on to the political media machine for same reason all the other guys do....ego.

5,950,000 results for "olbermann lies" on google...they can't all be false.

Oh and his vicious, defamatory personal attack on Palin weren't "spreading hate"? Pssssshaw.

I dunno, MSNBC right now is #2 among the "big-three" 24 hour news channels -- ahead of CNN, and it's safe to say Olbermann is one of their highest rated shows. MSNBC has been historically low but has been trending with ratings increases within the past few years.

If he's not getting much publicity right now, it's only because he's not the new kid on the block like Glenn Beck is enjoying at this moment. A year or two before, Olbermann had the spotlight too.

You may want to elaborate on what exactly was defamatory about his criticisms of Palin. I haven't heard anything inappropriate from Olbermann when he takes aim at her.

[yeahwho]

I must have a complete different criteria for magazine covers (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=marilyn%20monroe%20on%20time%20magazine%20cover&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) than you guys.

[travesty]

I dunno, MSNBC right now is #2 among the "big-three" 24 hour news channels -- ahead of CNN, and it's safe to say Olbermann is one of their highest rated shows. MSNBC has been historically low but has been trending with ratings increases within the past few years.

If he's not getting much publicity right now, it's only because he's not the new kid on the block like Glenn Beck is enjoying at this moment. A year or two before, Olbermann had the spotlight too.

You may want to elaborate on what exactly was defamatory about his criticisms of Palin. I haven't heard anything inappropriate from Olbermann when he takes aim at her.

Olbermann, Maddow ratings = abysmal
2009 September 17
.

Drudge reports the following up-to-date audience numbers in the cable news race:

FOXNEWS O’REILLY 4,039,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,451,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,421,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,785,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,273,000
FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 2,201,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,395,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,369,000

[kaiser soze]

drudge isn't in bed with FOX - noooo way

where did drudge get the numbers?

Well if the numbers are right and you're saying "heh, don't worry about those tools on fox". I wonder why you are trying to prove the ratings/popularity of these shows/individuals.

what's it matter, they have no influence

right?

[travesty]

drudge isn't in bed with FOX - noooo way

where did drudge get the numbers?

Well if the numbers are right and you're saying "heh, don't worry about those tools on fox". I wonder why you are trying to prove the ratings/popularity of these shows/individuals.

what's it matter, they have no influence

right?

Doesn't matter to me. Was just trying to show compartive viewership between the two. Hard to believe that someone like Greta gets those kind of numbers. In the end I guess it doesn't really matter who Fox plugs in, they have the viewership as a network to get the numbers even if they put Don Imus on the air. WTF? I'm really not trying to defend any of these people or Fox.

I still think the left are giving Fox's Heads wayy too much credit for the amount of influence they really have. Fox is just the Left's boogeyman for the momment because until they came along a right slanted TV channel has not been successful and it's scaring the shit out of those who do not want people to hear an opposing message. It's just one channel fer chrisssake. If you don't like it, change the channel, but be prepared to have nothing to complain about anymore.:D

[yeahwho]

David Brooks, Right Winger and Ed/Op man at the NYTimes wrote a very fair evaluation of Beck this week, here is a snippet...

So the myth returns. Just months after the election and the humiliation, everyone is again convinced that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest possess real power. And the saddest thing is that even Republican politicians come to believe it. They mistake media for reality. They pre-emptively surrender to armies that don’t exist.

They pay more attention to Rush’s imaginary millions than to the real voters down the street. The Republican Party is unpopular because it’s more interested in pleasing Rush’s ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer’s niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician’s coalition-building strategy.

The rise of Beck, Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the rest has correlated almost perfectly with the decline of the G.O.P. But it’s not because the talk jocks have real power. It’s because they have illusory power, because Republicans hear the media mythology and fall for it every time.

For the whole article click here The Wizard of Beck (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html)

[Bob]

this is about rush limbaugh, not glenn beck, but i don't really want to start a rush thread

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100209/content/01125115.guest.html

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Tina in Oklahoma City Oklahoma, great to have you on the program. Hi.

CALLER: Hi, Rush great to be on the program and mega dittos from my husband David and our 11 homeschooled Rush Babies.

RUSH: Thank you. Eleven?

CALLER: Eleven yes, every day we listen to you.

RUSH: Mama. Mama. Well, I figure that took, let's see, 11 kids, five minutes, 55 minutes, 11 kids.

CALLER: Something like that.

RUSH: Couple cigarettes in between.

CALLER: No, not in this house.

RUSH: (laughing) Yeah. I hear you.

CALLER: Well, I am changing the subject. You had been discussing recently about why women are unhappy?

RUSH: Well, I've been reporting that there are people in the media studying why women are unhappy.

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: Yes.

CALLER: Yes. And I have been listening to that, and since the first time I heard you mention that, I knew the answer. I was in the car with my 18-year-old son on Tuesday when you were talking about that again, and I looked at him, and I said, "I know why women are unhappy. Do you?" And without skipping a beat, he said, "Yes, because they're stepping outside of their God-given roles." And I think he hit the nail on the head. And in saying that I'm not saying it's a lesser role, it's a different role, and I think that women were designed and created to nurture babies, to love them, to educate them, to teach them to achieve their full academic potential, to love their fellow man, to become entrepreneurs, and I think that they're stepping outside of that and pursuing roles and stuff that just leaves them empty.

RUSH: I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Look at Hillary Clinton.
END TRANSCRIPT

i'm honestly beginning to believe that rush doesn't actually believe most of what he says, he just spouts controversial hateful bullshit to get attention (and i am paying attention :rolleyes:), which would be ok except that there are hordes of idiots having 11 homeschooled rush babies that do believe in what he's saying

[QueenAdrock]

Christians really scare me sometimes. They believe in these "god-given roles" for women and men and it's so...1950s. I have a friend who is evangelical, I went to her wedding and she was going on in her vows about how it's her duty to respect and obey her husband and in return he talked about how he would protect her and provide for the house. Mind you, she was the only one with the college degree. She was allowed to get her higher education, as long as she didn't do anything with it and it was just a "fun" degree for educational purposes. He doesn't have a degree and has been working 3 jobs to provide for the both of them. I just...don't get it. I don't understand how some believe women can't be happy unless they're birthing 10+ kids and staying in the kitchen all day. It's so backwards.

[yeahwho]

this is about rush limbaugh, not glenn beck, but i don't really want to start a rush thread

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100209/content/01125115.guest.html



i'm honestly beginning to believe that rush doesn't actually believe most of what he says, he just spouts controversial hateful bullshit to get attention (and i am paying attention :rolleyes:), which would be ok except that there are hordes of idiots having 11 homeschooled rush babies that do believe in what he's saying

The Wizard of Beck article was actually more focused on Rush Limbaugh too. It's all about the same. Years ago Hilliary was a huge focus of the vitriol, today it's Obama tomorrow it'll probably be Spongebob Squarepants. All I know for sure is it takes a very diluted watered down flashpoint style of fuel to get an idiot rolling. Especially if they already were racist/bigoted.

I think Brooks (who I've only agreed with 2-3 times) has made a very good point, the Republicans need somebody to stand up to these nutcases and evolve away from the moronic blithering corporate media speaking points. But the very first letter in response (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?sort=recommended)to the Brooks article also makes a very salient point,

It's not just Glenn and Sean and Bill: it's their master, Roger Ailes. And DeMint, Coburn, McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, the whole roster of Republican office holders are falling in behind the Fox bandwagon of hate, nonstop hate, hatred 24/7.

Who will be man enough to stand up to the media controlled babble? Do we need to bring the fairness doctrine back? Or do we believe that it's all just imaginary?

A lot of the people teabagging etc. look as though the movement they would really like to engage in is a bowel movement.

[RobMoney$]

Christians really scare me sometimes. They believe in these "god-given roles" for women and men and it's so...1950s. I have a friend who is evangelical, I went to her wedding and she was going on in her vows about how it's her duty to respect and obey her husband and in return he talked about how he would protect her and provide for the house. Mind you, she was the only one with the college degree. She was allowed to get her higher education, as long as she didn't do anything with it and it was just a "fun" degree for educational purposes. He doesn't have a degree and has been working 3 jobs to provide for the both of them. I just...don't get it. I don't understand how some believe women can't be happy unless they're birthing 10+ kids and staying in the kitchen all day. It's so backwards.


Newsflash.
Everyone has the right to persue happiness in their own way.
Some people want to have 10+ kids and serve a traditional role of husband or wife in their marriage.

Don't be so fucking judgemental.

[QueenAdrock]

Says the guy who is judgmental over me being liberal, "over-educated," and elitist. Not to mention judged Brett for living with his parents for as long as he did.

Don't be so hypocritical. (!)

[RobMoney$]

Sponging off your parents past the age of 21 isn't pursuing happiness.
It's called being a leech.

And I wouldn't care, but when someone who lives at home wants to offer an opinion on how my taxes should be spent I think it's time to call a leech a leech.

[QueenAdrock]

He earned his own income by working two jobs (which he pays taxes for, so he has plenty of right to talk about it), he paid for his own college, and his parents wanted him to stay there to save money while he was in school. He's since moved out (and yes, still in school), and his mom's pissed because she doesn't want him wasting his money on rent when he could just live there for free. So, tell me Rob, how is his parents WANTING him to stay there HIM being a leech?

Either way, your term of "leech" is judgmental. I find it funny how some days you'll come in here, wanting a mature discussion and come down on people for being "immature" and insulting, and other days you'll come in here and start with the mud-slinging hypocritical bullshit. I guess everyone has their manic and depressive days, but you really need to figure yours out a bit more and decide whether to stick to the highs or the lows.

[yeahwho]

Sponging off your parents past the age of 21 isn't pursuing happiness.
It's called being a leech.

And I wouldn't care, but when someone who lives at home wants to offer an opinion on how my taxes should be spent I think it's time to call a leech a leech.

I think DroppinScience is Canadian so his ability currently is 0 on our taxes. It would be great if he became a United States citizen though. Not trying to force anything.

I left home at age seventeen to work in Alaska where I did very well for myself, my brother stayed at home and went to school then moved out at age twenty four with a masters degree. He is stinking rich and now takes care of our parents.

It's family, my family is a work of beauty and love that continually changes with each year. I couldn't stand my family at age seventeen and I went through some personal hell in my life, the fact that more and more kids are staying with their parents isn't necessarily a bad thing...

If he's a leech then there are about dozen leeches living on my block, some with new babies. I'll tell them they're leeches. That what they say means nothing.

[RobMoney$]

I merely respond in kind.

When you post shit like this (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1700230&postcount=41) for no apparent reason, I'm going to respond with an insult.
I'm one conservative in a forum filled with liberals.

It shouldn't be hard for such an accomplished student as yourself to understand.

[RobMoney$]

I think DroppinScience is Canadian so his ability currently is 0 on our taxes.

You should post this after every one of his posts.
Perhaps I'll make it my new sig.

BTW, you haven't started drinking again, have you? (I sincerely hope not)
You diction seems a bit off, even for you.

[QueenAdrock]

I merely respond in kind.

When you post shit like this (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1700230&postcount=41) for no apparent reason, I'm going to respond with an insult.

Really? Because just days ago, when yeahwho insulted you, you just politely asked "Was that really necessary? Can't we have an adult dialogue?"

Like I said, one day you'll be insulting as a response, other days you'll have "uber-mature" messages of adult dialogue. It's quite confusing when you speak out of both sides of your mouth, see.

And Brett earned AMERICAN INCOME this past summer! Oh, heavens! Guess he can start talking about your American taxes now that he's paying them, huh Rob? (y)

[RobMoney$]

I left home at age seventeen to work in Alaska where I did very well for myself, my brother stayed at home and went to school then moved out at age twenty four with a masters degree. He is stinking rich and now takes care of our parents.

I left home at 19 and never finished my degree.
My best friend owns his own restaurant and never finished his degree.
Bob graduated law school and is still looking for employment.

Getting a degree doesn't insure you riches.
With or without it, you still have to be pretty driven to achieve sucess.

[RobMoney$]

And Brett earned AMERICAN INCOME this past summer! Oh, heavens! Guess he can start talking about your American taxes now that he's paying them, huh Rob? (y)


It's a start. Although taxes on a $10 an hour summer internship job barely pays for the benefits he enjoyed while in the US working the job.

[Bob]

I left home at 19 and never finished my degree.
My best friend owns his own restaurant and never finished his degree.
Bob graduated law school and is still looking for employment.

Getting a degree doesn't insure you riches.
With or without it, you still have to be pretty driven to achieve sucess.

getting a law degree is actually a good way to ensure that you don't become rich

my plan is to marry a sugar mama and have 11 home schooled rush babies

[RobMoney$]

Really? Because just days ago, when yeahwho insulted you, you just politely asked "Was that really necessary? Can't we have an adult dialogue?"

Like I said, one day you'll be insulting as a response, other days you'll have "uber-mature" messages of adult dialogue. It's quite confusing when you speak out of both sides of your mouth, see.


Yeahwho has engaged in an adult dialogue with me in the past.
I was interested in keeping the dialogue on topic.
You & Brett have been nothing but spoiled, insulting little elitist campus snobs. I won't bother appealing to you for mature conversation because I know you're incapable of it.


So just wondering, you admit you saw my plea for adult dialogue, yet you still chose to make an insulting post towards me, completely unprovoked?
I think you just proved my point.

[RobMoney$]

getting a law degree is actually a good way to ensure that you don't become rich

my plan is to marry a sugar mama and have 11 home schooled rush babies


I'm soo looking foward to the day you start posting conservative POV on here once you start rubbing elbows with other legal professionals once you get into a firm.

[QueenAdrock]

Unprovoked? It was about Valvano, but yes, you have done the same tactics in the past. It's not insulting, it's the truth. You take ridiculous things you hear from right-wing news, and then post them up here (sometimes passed off incorrectly as your own ideas as well). I really honestly hope that you're just posting up this crap to get a rise out of people than honestly believing it, though. I'd like to think you're more intelligent than that.


And Smithsonian probably paid more for Brett's internship than you earned during the summer, Robby. Uh-oh, maybe he has MORE of a say on taxes than you do, now! :eek:

[RobMoney$]

I'm willing to bet I earn more than both of you combined.

BTW, tell Brett librarian is a woman's job. And you'll never get rich from it.
You're a Gov't employee.
My taxes will ALWAYS be paying your salary.

[QueenAdrock]

Like I said before, you SHOULD be earning more than mid-20s kids. You're freakin' 36? 37? Talk to us when we're your age.

Librarian is a woman's job? I guess so is cooking and cleaning and all that stuff you most likely force your girlfriend to do, huh? She's so lucky to have a progressive-thinking male to tell her what to do. (y)

Librarians make quite a bit of money, since they need their Master's degrees to obtain such a position. I don't know what world you're living in where $60,000 starting and an upwards of $120,000 is considered poor.

[DroppinScience]

BTW, tell Brett librarian is a woman's job. And you'll never get rich from it.
You're a Gov't employee.


We all know you're racist, but it's nice to know you bring out the good ol' sexist card too.

And tell the Librarian of Congress that it's a "woman's job" (hint: those posts are usually held by men).

Maybe I'll never get "rich" from it, but I WILL live very comfortably off it. Unless you consider six figures to be poverty level.

And Rob must be 38 by now. He IS a model citizen.

[RobMoney$]

Like I said before, you SHOULD be earning more than mid-20s kids. You're freakin' 36? 37? Talk to us when we're your age.

Librarian is a woman's job? I guess so is cooking and cleaning and all that stuff you most likely force your girlfriend to do, huh? She's so lucky to have a progressive-thinking male to tell her what to do. (y)

Librarians make quite a bit of money, since they need their Master's degrees to obtain such a position. I don't know what world you're living in where $60,000 starting and an upwards of $120,000 is considered poor.


I'm living in Obama's world.
And BTW. My GF doesn't post here.
So I'll thank you to leave her out of our pissing matches.
But thanks for showing how much of an immature cunt you are once again. (y)

See what I did there, you insulted me and I responded in kind?
I can do this all night, it's up to you.

[Bob]

I'm soo looking foward to the day you start posting conservative POV on here once you start rubbing elbows with other legal professionals once you get into a firm.

i have worked with and talked to legal professionals before, thanks

[QueenAdrock]

I'm living in Obama's world.
And BTW. My GF doesn't post here.
So I'll thank you to leave her out of our pissing matches.
But thanks for showing how much of an immature cunt you are once again. (y)

See what I did there, you insulted me and I responded in kind?
I can do this all night, it's up to you.

Aww, did I hit a nerve? It's okay for you to insult my boyfriend, call him bald, elitist, special needs (which I never got, seeing as how you are a parent of a special needs child, I don't see why you use it as an "insult" anyways), leech, having a "woman's job," and whatever else, yet your girlfriend is off limits? You insult my significant other, I'll drag yours right in.

See what I did there, you said something about my boyfriend and I responded in kind? :rolleyes:

And that wasn't so much directed at Mae, anyways. She seems like a nice enough girl. I just feel bad that she has to deal with your sexist bullshit.

[RobMoney$]

Hey, if you think this look is good for you, go for it.
I'll tell you that picking on someone who
a) doesn't post here and b) has never said anything about you
just makes you look like the petty bitch that you are.


And I didn't say people thought Lambert was a special needs person for a while, as an insult.
People suspected it because that's what we thought.
I wouldn't use that term to insult someone, but I suspect that the fact that your even bringing my son's name into this is yet another passive-aggressive attempt at an insult.
If so, I hope you're proud.

[kaiser soze]

How the fuck do you all know so much of each other?

[QueenAdrock]

For some reason, you equate me bringing someone up to make a point to "insulting." Like I said, I never insulted her. I insulted the way you view and treat women, and feel bad for her.

And I didn't bring your son's name into it. I said that it's ironic that you'll use "special needs" as an insult even though you're a parent of a special needs child. It's not an attempt at an insult (hey, believe it or not, this "campus fuckface" actually rallies for autism awareness and donations on campus), it's an attempt to point out your hypocrisy about how some things for you are "off limits" yet they aren't for others. And you certainly used it as an insult here (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1675503&highlight=special#post1675503) and here (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1575077&postcount=47)?

"Hey Brett, we thought you had special needs!" Oh, but you're not using it as an insult? Please, tell me, what were you trying to do there, then?

[DroppinScience]

How the fuck do you all know so much of each other?

It happens when you've been posting here for years and years and years.

[RobMoney$]

Attempting to tell him that some people thought he was a special needs guy at first?

[RobMoney$]

How the fuck do you all know so much of each other?


We all aren't saying anything that we all haven't posted publicly about.

[QueenAdrock]

Attempting to tell him that some people thought he was a special needs guy at first?

In order to make him feel bad? Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what we call an "insult."

[RobMoney$]

For some reason, you equate me bringing someone up to make a point to "insulting." Like I said, I never insulted her. I insulted the way you view and treat women, and feel bad for her.


Oh, so you were using her to get to me?
Yeah, that's not uncool at all.


BTW, If anything, she tells me what to do. So you've got no reason to "feel bad for her".
She doesn't post here, and I don't post about our relationship.
So you bringing her into anything on here, or acting as if you know her is completely inappropiate.
And frankly it's people like you that are the reason she doesn't.
You can't compare my relationship to yours because Lambert posts here and chooses to take part in the pissing match.

[QueenAdrock]

About as cool as it is to diss my boyfriend as being "gay" or "special needs" or "a leech" or whatever else you want to drag up as an insult. Funny, because I wasn't even being insulting to your girlfriend, just saying that you probably treat her like crap due to your sexist attitudes.

Sucks when the tables are turned, huh.

You can rant all you want about politics, but you bring up shit that's inappropriate. Like "librarianship is women's work" or whatever else. You take personal shots at the both of us all the time, yet when we do a personal shot? You go ape shit. Either stop dishing it out, or learn to take it.

[RobMoney$]

I already showed you where you started all of this.
You can start it, but I'll end it.


And no tables are turned.
You're throwing punches at someone who doesn't fight.
It's the very definition of a coward.

The shit I say about you and your half-a-man are true.
He is a mama's boy for continuing to live under his parents roof even tho you moved how many miles to be with him.
He is extremely effiminate.
He did start an entire internet meme of standing limp-wristed in front of a fucking cannon.
And more than one person suspected him of having special needs because something just seemed "off" about the way he posted.
If that stuff offends you, then that's your problem, but all of it is a FACT.

You're attampting to float a fucking farce out there that I somehow must treat my GF like shit because of shit I post on a message board.
You don't know my GF, so don't front like you do.

[DroppinScience]

RobMoney is living proof that it's better to be mistaken for a homosexual than it is to be mistaken for a homophobe.

[QueenAdrock]

I already showed you where you started all of this.
You can start it, but I'll end it.


And no tables are turned.
You're throwing punches at someone who doesn't fight.
It's the very definition of a coward.

The shit I say about you and your half-a-man are true.
He is a mama's boy for continuing to live under his parents roof even tho you moved how many miles to be with him.
He is extremely effiminate.
He did start an entire internet meme of standing limp-wristed in front of a fucking cannon.
And more than one person suspected him of having special needs because something just seemed "off" about the way he posted.
If that stuff offends you, then that's your problem, but all of it is a FACT.

You're attampting to float a fucking farce out there that I somehow must treat my GF like shit because of shit I post on a message board.
You don't know my GF, so don't front like you do.

I'm not acting like I know your girlfriend. I know YOU from your posts, and you're a sexist and a racist. You like to think you're not, but you certainly have said maaaany things that point otherwise.

Here's the real facts:
He wanted to move in with me when I moved here. I said no, because I wanted to establish my own life, my own friends, and move into a house with roommates and meet people. I like being independent and didn't want to cling to my boyfriend and rely on his friends to be my friends. We've been living together for a year now, after I established a solid group of friends.

He's not extremely effeminate, you're speculating that he is based on an unfortunate picture he took.

You said you believed he had "special needs," but then it turns out he was just a "douchebag." How would you like it if someone said it the other way around? "Oh, we thought he was a douchebag, but it turns out he's just special needs." Because that's what you're saying. Someone who looks like Brett is either one or the other. That's pretty low, and inappropriate. That's why it boggles my mind that you still pretend that you don't use "special needs" as an insult.


Do you want facts about yourself and Mae that you've both posted up, and shall I just say "Oh, be insulted if you want, but those are facts"? I really don't feel like being downright vicious, it's quite draining to my otherwise friendly personality. (n)

[jennyb]

So yeah... I think Glenn Beck sucks! :(

[QueenAdrock]

I already showed you where you started all of this.
You can start it, but I'll end it.


And no tables are turned.
You're throwing punches at someone who doesn't fight.
It's the very definition of a coward.

You wanna see what started all this? Who threw the VERY first punch?

Here you go. (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1554177&postcount=8) First time you've ever even acknowledged me, and it was quite mean.

You threw punches at someone who didn't fight you, someone who never even acknowledged you on the board. Why? I dunno, probably because you have beef with my boyfriend and decided to be nasty to me.

I try to stay civil with everyone on the board, unless they start something first.

[QueenAdrock]

So yeah... I think Glenn Beck sucks! :(

Hear, hear! :)

[Bob]

He did start an entire internet meme of standing limp-wristed in front of a fucking cannon.

(most of us weren't being malicious about that)

[RobMoney$]

Neither am I. I'm merely stating a FACT.
I can't control if someone is embarressed by the FACTS.

If Lambert & QA are living in a glass house...

[QueenAdrock]

We're not embarrassed by that. However, when you bring it up and keep saying OMG YOU'RE FUCKING GAY! all the time, it gets obnoxious. And since I've clearly debunked the mama's boy and effeminate "facts," that only leaves the special needs fact.

You said you believed he had "special needs," but then it turns out he was just a "douchebag." How would you like it if someone said it the other way around? "Oh, we thought he was a douchebag, but it turns out he's just special needs." Because that's what you're saying. Someone who looks like Brett is either one or the other. That's pretty low, and inappropriate. That's why it boggles my mind that you still pretend that you don't use "special needs" as an insult.

Even you can't argue your way out of that. You were being malicious about him being "special needs." Speaking of glass houses....

[RobMoney$]

Did you really just quote yourself?

...and you've clearly debunked squat.
A male Librarian who lives at home with Mommy at his age is a mama's boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhF8QSkIrs).

Personally, I suspect that he'll come out of the closet one day, but admittedly I don't know him enough.

[DroppinScience]

Keep reaching for that rainbow, Rob. Keep reaching...

[RobMoney$]

Tell you what I'll do.

I'll agree to end the name calling, if you guys will.

BUT, in the future when you guys make your half-assed passive-aggressive little insults about me, I'll simply quote you.

Then after I've had enough I'll tear you both to shreads some more.
The ball will be in your court.
The only way I'll hurl another insult at you, is if you hurl some at me first.
(even tho that's always been the way I've operated anyway)

If you want to debate issues as an adult, that's what you'll get in return.
Let's see what route you choose.

[Bob]

calling someone a gay mama's boy is tearing them to shreds?

[QueenAdrock]

I did quote myself. It's because you never responded to it. Care to?

And yes, I did debunk everything you said, if you care to read. And as for your male librarian crap, the MLIS allows for people to be archivists, information architects, web designers, indexers and publishers, information professionals, and so on. I know there are quite a few people out there who get hung up on the "L" part of the degree, but there's another "I" in there, too. Just some quick education for you there.


As for the truce, that's fine. You clearly didn't operate that way with the first post you ever acknowledged me with, nor numerous other posts where you bring out personal insults when we don't, but if you're willing to change your attitude, then that's fine.

[DroppinScience]

Tell you what I'll do.

I'll agree to end the name calling, if you guys will.

BUT, in the future when you guys make your half-assed passive-aggressive little insults about me, I'll simply quote you.

Then after I've had enough I'll tear you both to shreads some more.
The ball will be in your court.
The only way I'll hurl another insult at you, is if you hurl some at me first.
(even tho that's always been the way I've operated anyway)

If you want to debate issues as an adult, that's what you'll get in return.
Let's see what route you choose.

Ah, have we come to this stage of the good ol' RobMoney brawl once again? The "truce" part where you make some half-assed attempt at maturity and civility (which is not your strong suit, sorry to say) where you offer to cease "tearing me to shreds" (never happened).

You won't follow through and you won't be able to resist the urge to call me a "campus fuckface" or "gay" or whatever your honors student kids would tell you is bad behavior. Then after some more name-calling, you'll call for yet another truce a few months later and we'll be back to square one.

You do what you do (plagiarize, express racist, sexist, and homophobic thoughts, misspell words, etc.) and I'll do what I do. Don't dish out what you can't take and then offer another "truce."

[RobMoney$]

At least my uneducated ass made a half-assed attempt at civility.
Your over-educated ass made none.

Keep telling yourself you're the mature one.

BTW, I'll take that as a "I won't cease being an ass, I'm going to continue to this nonsense" from you.
So I'll limit my insults to you, Lambert.

[DroppinScience]

That is perfectly fine, Rob. If I see you acting obnoxious and spreading around stupidity, it is my obligation and responsibility to call you out for it. Just like any other board member who has done so. Plagiarism, sexism, racism, and homophobia do not deserve to be met with silence.

That you let it get so personal and hurl out your list of "shredding" insults (or is that shreading as you spell it?) means that I must bother you so much that you can't keep in control of your emotions. You really love to dish it out, but the moment it comes back to you, you immediately retreat and call for civility, maturity, and probably your 110th hackneyed, condescending "truce" in the past year or so.

Keep it up, Rob. I've seen this movie before.

[RobMoney$]

Ok, run along then, ladyboy.

[QueenAdrock]

I did quote myself. It's because you never responded to it. Care to?

.

[RobMoney$]

No.
I could easily respond and show you the error of your logic in your quote, but you'd likely just move to a different topic and keep on denying my point, and that would only prolong this ridiculousness.

So No, I won't respond.

[QueenAdrock]

Well, you did say that you mistook Brett's being a douchebag for being "special needs," and there's no other way to take that quote. Apparently, special needs and douchebaggery are synonymous in your mind, which goes against all of your "I'd never use special needs as an insult" rhetoric.

So yeah, we all understand why you can't REALLY respond.

And if anyone's interested in Rob's "non-insulting" reference to special needs:
Remember when you first started posting here and everyone seriously thought you were the "Special Kid" and thought you had Down's Syndrome or something. Then after a while we realized you weren't disabled at all and that you were just a douche-bag.

There ya go.

[RobMoney$]

That's it?
That's your BIG evidence of my being offensive to special needs people?
HAHAHAAAAAA.

There's nothing in that statement that is offensive to special needs people.
At ALL.
People thought Lambert was Special needs, possibly Down's.
The only possible way that's offensive to people with Down's is if they are offended at being associated with Lambert.


Seriously now QA, you seem like you have a bit more common sense about you then your limp-wristed friend.
It's time to let it go.

[QueenAdrock]

Oh, okay. So if I said your son looked/acted like he had "special needs" or Down's Syndrome, you wouldn't be offended? I guess not, because that's what he is, right? We're not being offensive or anything, we're just stating facts. (y)

[QueenAdrock]

I don't know how in one breath you can say "We all thought you were disabled, but it turns out you were just a douchebag" and try to say with a straight face that you're not using special needs as an insult. Why not just say he's a douchebag? Why do you have to point out the fact that you thought he had Down's? The only reason is to insult him. I mean, Jesus Christ. Give it up Rob, there's no way to dig your way out of your insensitivity and hypocrisy.

[QueenAdrock]

How am I a cunt? I'm just stating facts here. If you're embarrassed by the fact that your son is special needs, that's your deal, not mine. Like I said, just facts, right? Personally, I've worked with autistic children and done therapy with them, and they're wonderful people, so I don't see why you'd be embarrassed.

And hey, remember that time you brought up Cosmo's dead father to make a point (something about her fear of becoming obese, because of her father's condition), and then defended it? Hmm, strange that your tune has changed since the tables have turned...

Good job on not commenting on the second post, conveniently ignoring it. Ironic that there's a special place in hell for me, yet you're the one saying that you mistook a "douchebag" for a person with "special needs," like you get the two mixed up all the time.

[tpk]

fun is over.