R.I.P. DJ AM

[PENisland]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/dj-am-found-dead-in-nyc-police-sources-suspect-drug-overdose/27062?nc

[RobMoney$]

WOW.

I just saw him throw out the first pitch on Sunday at the Mets-Phillies game in Queens.

Threw the ball like a girl BTW.

[cj hood]

at least Bruntlett made a nice triple play....

[DJ_Skrilla]

Another Sad day for Hip-Hop. AM was dope.... Sad sad sad. His last twit was about NY too...

"New york, new york. Big city of dreams, but everything in new york aint always what it seems."

http://twitter.com/DJ_am

[Tzar]

almost dies once in a freak accident and hits the gear to celebrate! only to die.....

twit.

[RobMoney$]

at least Bruntlett made a nice triple play....

Yeah, thats the game he threw out the first pitch.
I was there.

[cubsfirstplace]

really surprising. you'd think after he almost died in plane crash he would have a better outlook on life but nooooooo.

[adam_f]

Personally it's hard for me to have sympathy for a guy who was to star in a show about helping others with addiction on MTV only to die with a crack pipe and prescription pills in his apartment upon his death.

You'd think the plane crash would wake him up, considering four others actually died in the crash. Way to be, man, way to be.

[Dorothy Wood]

addiction is a disease and it's very easy for people to slip back into using. especially if he had to start taking pain meds for his plane crash injuries. it gets the body back into craving narcotics.

you people are judgmental assholes. he was just a man and he died, he had a family and friends and they're going to be sad just like you would be if you had a friend or family member die.

have some god damn respect for the dead.

[RobMoney$]

INTERNET.

[Bob]

really surprising. you'd think after he almost died in plane crash he would have a better outlook on life but nooooooo.

maybe he decided "i'm going to live every day like it's my last"

perhaps not the best philosophy after all

[camo]

really surprising. you'd think after he almost died in plane crash he would have a better outlook on life but nooooooo.

Maybe he thought he was invincible?

Sad news though (n)

[Randetica]

who?

[Audio.]

shit, really? I mean he is no Rodney Dangerfield yet come on. Kurt Cobain offs himself yet the majority hop on his nuts. Though DJ AM -- who dont know of till this thread -- did a retarded thing but for whatever reason thats his business not my I dont give a shit at all what the fuck do I wanna judgmental twat ... because its the internet, right? Thats a cheap fucking excuse just as cheap as saying "not in REAL LAFE LOLZBAWLLZ2+1=2000".

I remember when Chris Benoit died of something (sorry forgot) and the people and WWE made their respects to everyone immediately after the news of his death, it was like if Bruce Lee had died. After that WWE and the same people apologize and gone off like saying, "fuck that guy" after police reports showed Chris given his son steroids, killed his family and committed suicide ( now I remember). So, I'm wondering just cause DJ AM done a stupid a thing should anyway give a fuck unless he fucking held a hostage situation at a hospital blah blah?

I dunno, he was no Hitler and no Rodney Dangerfield but like them he was a person. I guess since I was raised with good morals I cant disrespect him because he is a person.

[Dorothy Wood]

I dunno, he was no Hitler and no Rodney Dangerfield but like them he was a person. I guess since I was raised with good morals I cant disrespect him because he is a person.

real talk (y)

[Tzar]

drug addiction isn't a disease you are born with - it's a self-inflicted result of some bad choices someone has made. stories like this just make a person like myself (pretty highly anti-pills/powder) facepalm in disappointment. i feel sorry for his family and friends; it's a fairly embarassing way to loose a son/father/brother/friend.

[Randetica]

drug addiction isn't a disease you are born with - it's a self-inflicted result of some bad choices someone has made. stories like this just make a person like myself (pretty highly anti-pills/powder) facepalm in disappointment. i feel sorry for his family and friends; it's a fairly embarassing way to loose a son/father/brother/friend.

real talk (y)

but i cant blame him if he took the drugs/meds only to reduce pain

like i said i dont really ever heard of him before

[Kid Presentable]

drug addiction isn't a disease you are born with - it's a self-inflicted result of some bad choices someone has made. stories like this just make a person like myself (pretty highly anti-pills/powder) facepalm in disappointment. i feel sorry for his family and friends; it's a fairly embarassing way to loose a son/father/brother/friend.

It just happens to people. Spend some time around smackheads and yes you will want to put bullets in their brains. But it's also a sickness. None of them know what they're in for. If you drink, you're really in the same boat, it's just a legal, conditioned and scrupulously advertised drug habit by comparison.

[YoungRemy]

lose is spelled with one "o"

i think it's that important to bring up.

RIP DJ AM, you drug addled plane crash surviving sonovabitch...

[Micodin]

lose is spelled with one "o"

Word.

I always cringe when people call other people losers, but type it as "looser".

I'm always thinking... If that person is a loser. What does that make you? You're the loser that spells loser "looser".

[Randetica]

Word.

I always cringe when people call other people losers, but type it as "looser".

I'm always thinking... If that person is a loser. What does that make you? You're the loser that spells loser "looser".

cookiepuss does that a lot

looser sounds gross like some creepy guy who fucks around just to make vaginas loose


oh yeah btw r.i.p.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by Dorothy Wood
have some god damn respect for the dead.

Especially the recovering drug addicts who died with a crack pipe next to his bed.

[RobMoney$]

Since when does dying entitle you to some sort of respect?

OD'ing is in the same catageory as suicide IMO, it's a selfish act and you deserve no respect for it.
I personally know 4 people I grew up with, who committed suicide.
I loved them all like a brother, but I lost all the respect I had for any of them.
Two of them hung themselves because the owed money to the wrong people (they both owed money to the same guy BTW and he wouldn't have hurt either one of them).
One guy hung himself because his wife was cheating on him and was leaving him. He left behind a 2yo son.
One guy hung himself and didn't leave a note. Nobody knows why he did it.


The people who get my respect are his family and friends who are left dealing with the responsibilities of his life that he wasn't mature enough to handle on his own.

[Kid Presentable]

The people who get my respect are his family and friends who are left dealing with the responsibilities of his life that he wasn't mature enough to handle on his own.

I bet that's comforting for them.

[RobMoney$]

It probably gives them as much comfort as someone posting "R.I.P" or some other form of faux-heartfelt support on an internet MB.

[Kid Presentable]

Were they famous?

[Dorothy Wood]

Especially the recovering drug addicts who died with a crack pipe next to his bed.


listen, we all know how you feel about drugs and how you think you're so above it all, so save it. get off your fuckin soapbox.

and Rob, I think you're just missing a part of your soul or something, because you're cold as fuck.



now, I had a friend who died of an overdose a couple years ago, and everyone was angry and frustrated because we thought he was clean. he fell off the wagon and it cost him his life. it was a terrible thing that happened, but after the anger and frustration we had to just appreciate who he was when he was alive and keep those memories instead of staying angry forever. his death made people look at themselves and their lifestyles and kinda grow up in a way. he served a purpose, he was a human being who lived on this earth and he was a nice, smart, and funny guy...and it would be a shame for him to be completely written off because of his addiction.


the point is, have some class. speaking ill of the dead is about the uncoolest thing ever. I don't know DJ A.M. or anything, but I can respect that he was alive and had friends and family and fans that loved him, and now he's gone and it's sad for them.

[RobMoney$]

and Rob, I think you're just missing a part of your soul or something, because you're cold as fuck.


I won't deny that.
I realize I'm a cold MF'er.
I know why I'm cold and I embrace it.
It's who I am. ;)


But that doesn't change the fact that people who OD or commit suicide don't deserve to be honored.

[Bob]

i wouldn't call that a "fact"

[yeahwho]

I won't deny that.
I realize I'm a cold MF'er.
I know why I'm cold and I embrace it.
It's who I am. ;)


But that doesn't change the fact that people who OD or commit suicide don't deserve to be honored.

Take a poke at Edith Bunke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UKrAYD3zX8)r for me.

[Dorothy Wood]

I won't deny that.
I realize I'm a cold MF'er.
I know why I'm cold and I embrace it.
It's who I am. ;)


But that doesn't change the fact that people who OD or commit suicide don't deserve to be honored.


well, I'm glad you're proud of yourself.

I hope for your sake, there isn't a way to die from being addicted to being a JERK. cuz then you'd like OD on your own jerkiness and then nobody would honor you because you just did it yourself, man, you can just fade into the ether with no fanfare.

[Tzar]

i am trying to stop spelling lose like that. it's a bad habit of mine.

It just happens to people. Spend some time around smackheads and yes you will want to put bullets in their brains. But it's also a sickness. None of them know what they're in for. If you drink, you're really in the same boat, it's just a legal, conditioned and scrupulously advertised drug habit by comparison.
i was waiting for this response and i'll agree; booze/weed is no different. but i only feel this way because any worse than the latter is always looked at in a negative point of view....so where is the appeal? other than a rebellious/euphoric high that is easily attained by just having fun with what ya got. i don't need to do a line because i want it to make me feel better/wake me up/whatever the fuck you snort lines for - i can do that myself physically. i just feel like the real addictive shit, that fucks up lives, is consumed only by peer pressure or the need to make yourself look better in front of others. to me, it's such a wannabe thing to do.

[Kid Presentable]

i am trying to stop spelling lose like that. it's a bad habit of mine.


i was waiting for this response and i'll agree; booze/weed is no different. but i only feel this way because any worse than the latter is always looked at in a negative point of view....so where is the appeal? other than a rebellious/euphoric high that is easily attained by just having fun with what ya got. i don't need to do a line because i want it to make me feel better/wake me up/whatever the fuck you snort lines for - i can do that myself physically. i just feel like the real addictive shit, that fucks up lives, is consumed only by peer pressure or the need to make yourself look better in front of others. to me, it's such a wannabe thing to do.

I hear you. I don't think a lot of ice addicts or smack addicts can even remember other people, let alone think of them enough to impress them.

There is a recovered junkie in my family. I would be happier if they were dead, the smack has completely destroyed who they were. It's like they're already a haggard corpse and we have to deal with the pallid, animated ghost of what should have been a fatal junk habit. Sucks. So I get the drugs hate, completely. I do think that whatever kills the person will be doing them and those around them a favour, and I doubt I'll even go to the funeral.

That awful stuff said, I guess it's a fault of mine that I try too hard to empathise with people. Sympathise at the very least.

[DJ_Skrilla]

this thread has gone to shit. Its sad that he passed, and now they are blaming it on the benzos which he had to take after a near death plane crash. Tell rob money to suck my dick.

RIP AM. If you havent heard about him before this please dont post. Go download ztrip uneasy listening.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Wow not much sympathy in this thread. Also I think the stereotypes being bandied around here regarding drug addiction are bit cliche. Yes when someone hurts their families and friends it is wrong. Drug addicts are not the only people that hurt their families and friends however.

To re-state it is extremely important to note that not all drug addicts hurt their families and friends. Also it should be stated that not all recovering addicts are zombies or walking corpses. Many recovering and recovered addicts feel guilty enough for the damage down (i.e., either to themselves or others) without society placing blame upon their weakened shoulders.

Do not get me wrong drugs have caused some nasty 'plagues' for our dear species. However I always considered drugs and their uses are largely a product of human nature as opposed to the fragility of addicts. If there is blame to be placed it should be placed on us all (non-addicts and addicts). In particular our evolved human nature is the likely source of impulses to manufacture drugs, use drugs and abuse them.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by Dorothy Wood
I hope for your sake, there isn't a way to die from being addicted to being a JERK. cuz then you'd like OD on your own jerkiness

Wow...

[Kid Presentable]

Also it should be stated that not all recovering addicts are zombies or walking corpses.

Never said they were.

[Fern]

I love drugs, line em' up and The Kid will knock em' down. but you gotta know when enogh is enough. I dont believe addiction to be a disease. just like really fat people being handicapped; it is disrepectful to cancer survivors and people who beat other diseases. it is NOT on the same level. It is a course of actions that lead to this disease. actions which are in the 'suffers' control. he is just another spoiled cunt who didnt get enough attention from mommy and daddy. nigga should have died in the plane crash.

[kaiser soze]

so I guess you are partially in support of your comment

what about cancer victims from smoking, sunbathing, drinking, working in hazardous conditions, eating poorly....according to your philosophy they brought it upon themselves

it's unfortunate that people who don't care can't just keep their mouths shut

[Tzar]

let me get one thing straight here. i am sorry for his family and friends and i mean no disrespect to his life after his death. i am not giving him a hard time because he died of an overdose. i'm more angry that after such a monumental accident that resulted in the death of other people, he had the balls to hop back on the gear. he was given a second chance at life after a fucking plane crash!? doesn't matter if his body relapsed after the injury painkillers... you gotta have a stronger look at your own life after something that.

[Dorothy Wood]

I don't think you understand the nature of addiction, tzar. it's a physical as well as mental.

it's easy to say, "just get over it", but not so easy to do.

I don't know what it's like actually, because my family has a history of addiction on both sides, so I stayed away from drugs and alcohol until I was out of high school. didn't even smoke pot until I was 20. I did coke a few times about 3 years ago, but decided to stop...because it wasn't really that fun, it just felt good. which creeped me out. so I guess I didn't inherit physical addiction, but I definitely still abuse substances probably more than the average bear...if that can be inherited?

[Dorothy Wood]

Wow...

really? :rolleyes:

[hpdrifter]

Wow not much sympathy in this thread. Also I think the stereotypes being bandied around here regarding drug addiction are bit cliche. Yes when someone hurts their families and friends it is wrong. Drug addicts are not the only people that hurt their families and friends however.

To re-state it is extremely important to note that not all drug addicts hurt their families and friends. Also it should be stated that not all recovering addicts are zombies or walking corpses. Many recovering and recovered addicts feel guilty enough for the damage down (i.e., either to themselves or others) without society placing blame upon their weakened shoulders.

Do not get me wrong drugs have caused some nasty 'plagues' for our dear species. However I always considered drugs and their uses are largely a product of human nature as opposed to the fragility of addicts. If there is blame to be placed it should be placed on us all (non-addicts and addicts). In particular our evolved human nature is the likely source of impulses to manufacture drugs, use drugs and abuse them.

Not a whole lot else to say.

[Randetica]

listen, we all know how you feel about drugs and how you think you're so above it all, so save it. get off your fuckin soapbox.



i didnt really know how he felt about it until now so thanks adam for making my day (y)

[Dorothy Wood]

randy, you do realize that you're addicted to the internet, right?

[Randetica]

randy, you do realize that you're addicted to the internet, right?

not really addicted, just wastes some time i guess

i lived over 1 and a half years without net and i didnt kill myself so..


do you ever run out of idiotic comments btw?

[Dorothy Wood]

nope

[Freebasser]

The thread title is purely acronyms and initials.

[RobMoney$]

I don't think you understand the nature of addiction, tzar. it's a physical as well as mental.

it's easy to say, "just get over it", but not so easy to do.

I don't know what it's like actually, because my family has a history of addiction on both sides, so I stayed away from drugs and alcohol until I was out of high school.


You do realize this is ridiculous, right?
If you were an addict, you wouldn't have been able to just simply stay away from drugs and alcohol.

Because it's "physical as well as mental", right?

And you clearly don't have "the Gene", if you believe in that sort of thing.
Be happy you didn't inherit it.

[PENisland]

this thread has gone to shit. Its sad that he passed, and now they are blaming it on the benzos which he had to take after a near death plane crash. Tell rob money to suck my dick.

RIP AM. If you havent heard about him before this please dont post. Go download ztrip uneasy listening.

agreed to the fullest

i think this thread has more posts than the Michael Jackson one...

[b i o n i c]

anyone else think he looked like donald trumps' son (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=donald%20trump%20jr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)?

[b i o n i c]

ps r$ likes being known as cold. youre not cold, rob.. as much as you try to be senor 'cold-as-ice', i dont think you really are. youd cry after a meredith baxter burney lifetime special like any blue blooded american would(y)

[checkyourprez]

I love drugs, line em' up and The Kid will knock em' down. but you gotta know when enogh is enough. I dont believe addiction to be a disease. just like really fat people being handicapped; it is disrepectful to cancer survivors and people who beat other diseases. it is NOT on the same level. It is a course of actions that lead to this disease. actions which are in the 'suffers' control. he is just another spoiled cunt who didnt get enough attention from mommy and daddy. nigga should have died in the plane crash.

i was more or less going to post something like this.

people dont actively go out and say.."hey i think im going to try and get AIDS tonight" (through dumb choices they may be "asking" for it, but thats not what im talking about)

people do actively go out and say..."hey im going to do some crack tonight". thats not a disease. that is a dumbass life choice that you only have yourself to blame.

but in that sense im not going to dog the guy. he wanted to live life like that. he did. shit happens. were all checking out of this hotel some day.

[cubsfirstplace]

drug addiction is a disease in the same way obesity is because the person can partially control it but genetics also plays a big part on how much control they have over it.

[Dorothy Wood]

You do realize this is ridiculous, right?
If you were an addict, you wouldn't have been able to just simply stay away from drugs and alcohol.

Because it's "physical as well as mental", right?

And you clearly don't have "the Gene", if you believe in that sort of thing.
Be happy you didn't inherit it.


well if you'd bothered to quote the whole thing, you'd see that I said "so I guess I didn't inherit physical addiction". I suppose I could've added "gene".

what's with the "if you believe in that sort of thing."? uh, yeah, I do believe in scientific facts, thanks.


it's astounding to me how ignorant some of you are regarding drug addiction...it's absolutely flabbergasting.

here's some info from a site for teens, maybe it'll help explain a little.

How does long-term drug taking affect brain circuits?

We know that the same sort of mechanisms involved in the development of tolerance can eventually lead to profound changes in neurons and brain circuits, with the potential to severely compromise the long-term health of the brain. For example, glutamate is another neurotransmitter that influences the reward circuit and the ability to learn. When the optimal concentration of glutamate is altered by drug abuse, the brain attempts to compensate for this change, which can cause impairment in cognitive function. Similarly, long-term drug abuse can trigger adaptations in habit or nonconscious memory systems. Conditioning is one example of this type of learning, whereby environmental cues become associated with the drug experience and can trigger uncontrollable cravings if the individual is later exposed to these cues, even without the drug itself being available. This learned "reflex" is extremely robust and can emerge even after many years of abstinence.
What other brain changes occur with abuse?

Chronic exposure to drugs of abuse disrupts the way critical brain structures interact to control behavior - behavior specifically related to drug abuse. Just as continued abuse may lead to tolerance or the need for higher drug dosages to produce an effect, it may also lead to addiction, which can drive an abuser to seek out and take drugs compulsively. Drug addiction erodes a person's self-control and ability to make sound decisions, while sending intense impulses to take drugs.
http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/facts/science-behind-addiction.aspx

[checkyourprez]

drug addiction is a disease in the same way obesity is because the person can partially control it but genetics also plays a big part on how much control they have over it.

obesity isnt a disease.

its laziness.

[Dorothy Wood]

:rolleyes:

[Kid Presentable]

Anyway RIP to this dude AM. I never heard his music.

I wasn't talking on him and his alleged drug use, just sharing a story about a junkie with tzar. beace

[Randetica]

yeah, it's no disease

just sounds like stupid excuse to me

[RobMoney$]

well if you'd bothered to quote the whole thing, you'd see that I said "so I guess I didn't inherit physical addiction". I suppose I could've added "gene".

what's with the "if you believe in that sort of thing."? uh, yeah, I do believe in scientific facts, thanks.


it's astounding to me how ignorant some of you are regarding drug addiction...it's absolutely flabbergasting.

here's some info from a site for teens, maybe it'll help explain a little.

http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/facts/science-behind-addiction.aspx



You do realize I spent years in court-ordered rehab, counciling, and AA & NA meetings, right?

[lolkat]

he was the jimmy hendrix of my generation...you 30+'s just dont understand

[Dorothy Wood]

You do realize I spent years in court-ordered rehab, counciling, and AA & NA meetings, right?

I did not realize that. makes things more confusing and makes sense at the same time.