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yeahwho
08-31-2009, 02:17 PM
UK police to review Rolling Stones guitarist death (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090831/ap_en_ot/eu_britain_rolling_stones_death)

I didn't know anything about this, it seems like there was a documentary or movie a few years back about it but I'm not sure.

Does anyone else remember some show about Brian Jones death?

Documad
08-31-2009, 09:46 PM
A few years back, there was a fictional movie based on one of those books that speculated about his death. I didn't see it.

I used to be the biggest Stones fan but I have never been interested in Brian Jones. I hope that they're not putting too many police officers on this because it seems like there are better things they could be doing--especially if the main suspect is already dead. Why would the builder or whoever that suspect was drown Brian? Did he owe the builder money?

saz
08-31-2009, 11:13 PM
it was a hit job, frank thorogood was a scapegoat. all roads lead to klein.

Documad
09-01-2009, 12:31 AM
What is behind the fascination with this guy? I mostly know that he liked to beat up women.

The Stones made my favorite records shortly after he left/died.

Klein's dead now too, isn't he? It would be a convenient time to pin this on him. And there's the renewed interest in how he killed the Beatles. :p

saz
09-01-2009, 11:15 AM
he was a brilliant, multi-instrumentalist musician who formed the rolling stones, named them, got them off the ground, wrote the music for their biggest hits, but received the shaft and was stabbed in the back multiple times. and yes, like any other rock star of that era, he was no saint or angel and did hit women, but it's no worse than the behaviour of john lennon, syd barrett, keith richards and others who were far worse. this has nothing to do with convenience or however else you want to spin it.

DroppinScience
09-01-2009, 12:19 PM
I know there's been conspiracy theories that Mick Jagger and/or others in the Rolling Stones put the hit on Brian Jones, but I'm sure that's all far-fetched.

mickill
09-01-2009, 01:25 PM
Charlie Watts did it.

rirv
09-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Sting and Mark Knopfler were the perpetrators. Geordie Mafia from the future, you see.

MC Moot
09-01-2009, 05:10 PM
I read this a few months back...”Sway”…(y) (http://www.amazon.ca/Sway-Novel-Zachary-Lazar/dp/0316113093)fictional fact,offers some interesting insight...seems to me the workers he had hired who became hang abouts at his place were the likely culprits...

Guy Incognito
09-01-2009, 05:48 PM
UK police to review Rolling Stones guitarist death (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090831/ap_en_ot/eu_britain_rolling_stones_death)

I didn't know anything about this, it seems like there was a documentary or movie a few years back about it but I'm not sure.

Does anyone else remember some show about Brian Jones death?


there was summat on channel 4 a coupla years back, they had a rock n roll week but i all i remember is the builder revelations, i dont remember much else earth shattering.

What is behind the fascination with this guy? I mostly know that he liked to beat up women.

The Stones made my favorite records shortly after he left/died.

Klein's dead now too, isn't he? It would be a convenient time to pin this on him. And there's the renewed interest in how he killed the Beatles. :p

Err he founded the band - sure he was out of the band anyway when he died but isnt it just the fact that he died way too early and ruined lots of potential by getting completely twatted.

paul jones
09-01-2009, 06:05 PM
it was The Osmonds

RobMoney$
09-01-2009, 06:53 PM
The man who murdered Jones was FRANK THOROGOOD.
He confessed on his deathbed.
He held Jones under the water until he drowned.
Janet Lawson confirmed it before she died as well.

RobMoney$
09-01-2009, 06:57 PM
Why would the builder or whoever that suspect was drown Brian? Did he owe the builder money?

Because Jones didn't like the work he was doing and fired him earlier that day.
Frank Thorogood was the builder/maintnance man.

Documad
09-01-2009, 09:47 PM
he was a brilliant, multi-instrumentalist musician
I never like rock musicians who fit that bill. I prefer the lunkheads who make rock music that I like to listen to, (unless we're talking Jonny Greenwood--I have a special exception for him). I tend to prefer bands with 3 or 4 members. I don't want to hear a rock star play a flute. They were better off without him. The real tragedy was that Mick Taylor didn't last long and was replaced by Ron Wood.


it's no worse than the behaviour of john lennon, syd barrett, keith richards and others who were far worse.
I'm a huge Keith fan. As for the other two, I like their bands but I don't worship them.

Because Jones didn't like the work he was doing and fired him earlier that day.
Frank Thorogood was the builder/maintnance man.
Then this is really stupid. What's the point of reopening the investigation if the only suspect is already dead?

RobMoney$
09-01-2009, 11:28 PM
Someone must need some publicity.

yeahwho
09-02-2009, 12:39 AM
The Stones made my favorite records shortly after he left/died.



I would have to agree, starting with Let it Bleed... what a fantastic album, then Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street.

I read this a few months back...”Sway”…(y) (http://www.amazon.ca/Sway-Novel-Zachary-Lazar/dp/0316113093)fictional fact,offers some interesting insight...seems to me the workers he had hired who became hang abouts at his place were the likely culprits...

That book is on it's way to my house, how did I not know about that book? Looks great I ordered two minutes after I read your post.


The stones stayed great right up to 1981, that was when they released Tattoo You. After that they began to lay quite a few eggs.

The book looks interesting for more than just the Brian Jones angle, it looks like the classic study of rock, fame, drugs, excess and the big time.

saz
09-09-2009, 07:16 PM
some of you are way off the mark here and no offence, but really have no idea what you're talking about.

tom keylock, the stones' former tour manger in the 60s (who was from london's east end and had all sorts of organized crime connections) made up the so-called "deathbed confession", in order to help sell terry rawlings' book (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Brian-Jones-Who-Killed-Christopher-Robin/Terry-Rawlings/e/9781900924818). keylock later recanted the confession he made up, as he was challenged by thorogood's family, who were present when keylock visited thorogood in the hospital.

the truth is that there is nothing far-fetched about any of this. jones was off illegal drugs and was only a drinker when he was murdered, which was so much more and involved than a mere 'disgruntled' builder who was conveniently scapegoated in the early 90s. incidently, thorogood wasn't really a builder at all. he was present at cotchford farm throughout the winter and spring of '69, along with tom keylock, in order to keep an eye on jones, who would then usually report back to allen klein or the stones' office.

all roads lead to klein.

RobMoney$
09-09-2009, 09:38 PM
How do you explain Janet Lawson's corroborating that Frank Thorogood did it then?

The bottom line is that neither of us were there.
We each read the info that shapes our opinions about the events of that evening, and that's all we can do.
No one can say for a fact who did or didn't do it, so you really have no right to tell anyone else that they're wrong or misinformed.

saz
09-09-2009, 10:16 PM
janet lawson had an affair with tom keylock, and she was protecting keylock and going along with the thorogood scapegoat story.

you're right, neither of us were there. however, i can to a certain extent point out, without breaking confidences, where people are misinformed. for years now, i've been in the close confidence of trevor hobley. for the last six to seven years, he has been researching jones' life and death. his research led him to initiate an investigation and form an investigative team which includes john latham, a lawyer who specializes in miscarriages of justice, has worked on a great deal of high profile cases, and was recently featured in the itv1 documentary murder at harvey nicks (http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/press-releases/murder-at-harvey-nicks). there is also a barrister, a music lawyer (who has successfully worked for and against some huge names), an independent documentary film producer who worked for the bbc for decades, and a freelance journalist who has worked for many national uk newspapers, such as the london times, the guardian, and telegraph. they have accumulated a 600 page dossier of testimony and evidence, and once the story breaks and the truth can finally come out, it is going to be huge.

RobMoney$
09-09-2009, 10:24 PM
Ok, so why the wait?
Conspiricy theories bore me.