Obama : Legalize Illegals to get them healthcare

[valvano]

Rep Wilson may not have been too far from the truth after all:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?feat=home_cube_position1

Throw Poland under the bus to appease Russia, reward illegal aliens with amnesty and govt health care....raise taxes on working American as our economy continues to be in the crapper...record busting deficits...

Hope, Change.......Jimmy Carter v 2.0

:rolleyes:

[Dorothy Wood]

pardon me, but if we make illegal immigrants legal, they'll have to pay income tax, yes?

:rolleyes:

[valvano]

pardon me, but if we make illegal immigrants legal, they'll have to pay income tax, yes?

:rolleyes:

and your point is?? why get a job if you are an illegal alien if the govt is going to take care of you anyway??

1/3 of California's medicaid (you know, the medical program for the poor folks) funded pregnacies are due to illegals.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzU5MjU2NDNlZmNkOTUyNDdmM2ZkYTI2YmE5ZjAxMzY=


and of course....what do you say to all those people who are LEGALLY trying to become citizens and go through the proper channels? "Do you mind if we let these 20 million people step in front of you in line?"

Hope...Change...Hype..

[yeahwho]

Rep Wilson may not have been too far from the truth after all:

He is a fucking obstructionist opportunist representative with the reading comprehension of say, a sea crab.

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 (http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/)— NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

[valvano]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703329.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

"When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem? "

:D

[yeahwho]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703329.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

"When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem? "

:D

err.... ahhhh... are you fucking kidding me? This is what your clinging onto? It's ridiculous to the point of 0 relevancy (http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/) in the health care debate.

[valvano]

err.... ahhhh... are you fucking kidding me? This is what your clinging onto? It's ridiculous to the point of 0 relevancy (http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/) in the health care debate.

they why, if the original bill did not allow coverage for illegals, did they have to go back and fix it to not allow coverage for illegals??

:confused:

[yeahwho]

they why, if the original bill did not allow coverage for illegals, did they have to go back and fix it to not allow coverage for illegals??

:confused:

To satisfy those of you who cannot comprehend this sentence;

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Which by now you've must of read at least 3 times if you're following along. There was a enforcement mechanism installed in the language. Same rule, same consequences (non payment) same fucking same. It is a non-issue except for people too fucking ignorant to comprehend English.

How dull are you?

[yeahwho]

1/3 of California's medicaid (you know, the medical program for the poor folks) funded pregnacies are due to illegals.



You had best re-read your link or have someone with elementary reading comprehension re-read it for you and explain to you what it is saying.


A GAO report finds that illegal immigrants constitute more than one-third of all Medicaid-funded pregnancies in California. Elsewhere in the country, the GAO found: “From 1992 to 1995 in Texas, the number of Medicaid-funded births to undocumented alien mothers more than doubled, while the total number of births remained fairly stable.” People respond to economic incentives. Even when the people and the incentives are illegal. *

*I take exception to the last two sentences, this is the first year they did data on the costs, so how the fuck could it be proven different than any other time. Plus the time period above is 1992-95. The article is using perhaps the best period study slanted to it's point to make the case. It's a bullshit statement and Joe Wilson is a fucking bullshit asshat.

Maybe this is both a math and language comprehension problem. Maybe you just like to shoot from the hip all mavericky and shit. Either way the statement is mis-represented to the point of total bullshit.

[Echewta]

1/3 of California's medicaid (you know, the medical program for the poor folks) funded pregnacies are due to illegals.


Nobody, including the right to lifers, would want any hospital or first responder not to assist in bringing a new life into the world. That doesn't make any sense. I have no problem with my tax dollars assisting a pregnant mother, no matter what her status is.

As for bitching about how much is spent, you would do better to point fingers at the Pope before some of the illegal population here in California. If that Catholics ever get out of the 1400s, what a great day it will be for population control and unwanted pregnancies.