What do Hitler and Obama have in common??

[valvano]

The use of public art programs to support the political goals of the administration.

NEA urged artists to produce works that support Obama's agenda:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/21/audiotape-controversial-nea-conference-revealed/

Hitler used public arts to expand Nazism:

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/ARTS/artReich.htm


Now, before you liberals start howling about how this whole Obama NEA thing is taken out of context...would you have supported Bush urging the NEA to get artists to support, say, the Iraq War???

:D

[yeahwho]

The only really weird thing about this post is that of all the pressing issues out there to discuss you have picked just about the lamest comparison and off topic bullshit item imaginable and expect some sort of esoteric discussion about Nazism.

[yeahwho]

Oh yeah, by the fucking way Bush enlists Hollywood to 'help the war effort' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-enlists-hollywood-to-help-the-war-effort-616694.html)

[Bob]

you're amazing valvano. of your 1,044 posts i literally cannot think of one that hasn't made me wince

[valvano]

Oh yeah, by the fucking way Bush enlists Hollywood to 'help the war effort' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-enlists-hollywood-to-help-the-war-effort-616694.html)

asking hollywood producers to make patriotic movies...one thing...

using tax funded govt programs to put the screws on "independent" artists who rely on these same govt programs to make art to help market the current administration....scary...

and why the mention of what bush did? i love every time an issue about obama is brought up, the first reply is "bush did it"...i thought we were changing things from what bush did??? :D

[kaiser soze]

Ah yes, Fox News again :rolleyes:

I have a feeling valvano knows very little of art history and the complex relationship between a government and the creative arts. I doubt you've heard of the WPA. Compared to the billions of tax payers' dollars wasted on killing children and torturing men this is nothing. But I bet you cheer when the creative arts are cut from school programs because the funding needs to be shifted to athletics.

I'm sure if this was a republican/conservative/whatever you worship you wouldn't say a peep. Propaganda exists on both sides of the fence and artists find work for it. How should marketing be handled, with a putt putt pencil and a napkin? Did you know many artists were in danger, ran from, hid, or became expatriates from countries the lived because of the Nazi regime?

i thought we were changing things from what bush did??? :D

well if nothing is changing why are you complaining?

I hope you feel threatened by this, it's nice to know that creativity is feared by the simple minded.

[yeahwho]

Now, before you liberals start howling about how this whole Obama NEA thing is taken out of context...would you have supported Bush urging the NEA to get artists to support, say, the Iraq War???

:D



and why the mention of what bush did? i love every time an issue about obama is brought up, the first reply is "bush did it"...i thought we were changing things from what bush did??? :D

Honestly how dull are you? Obama is not Hitler. Discussing Bush was your idea. Fuck. I mean just Fuck. How in the Fuck Fuck can you Fuck up Fuck.

[Adam]

this is why I love american politics - some people are just beyond crazy and insane yet are still allowed to use the web, appear on tv, write for 'news'papers - like a proper circus. And the odd (albeit small % of the population seem to believe it).

Just to throw fuel on the fire; Remember guys, Hitler came into power as a socialist !!

Keep it up (y)

[Bob]

this is why I love american politics - some people are just beyond crazy and insane yet are still allowed to use the web, appear on tv, write for 'news'papers - like a proper circus. And the odd (albeit small % of the population seem to believe it).

Just to throw fuel on the fire; Remember guys, Hitler came into power as a socialist !!

Keep it up (y)

i do sometimes question the "small %" part of that assessment. apparently fox news has more viewers than any of the other major news networks (possibly combined, i'm not sure about that part, but i do know that fox news is the most popular of the news networks, not that fox news is actually a news network and not that the other news networks aren't garbage)

sometimes i can't tell if the idiots are numerous or just incredibly loud. either way i'm worried. i mean, look at the hordes of idiots who love sarah palin. i will never, ever, ever understand what it is about that woman that makes people admire her

[HAL 9000]

Valvano is like a walking case study of logical fallacies. Do you never think to yourself that if your arguments are this bad, there must be something wrong with your outlook on life?

Also why do you post these things here? You must know that no one here falls for this stuff.

Maybe Obama is a bad president - why dont you try to come up with some well thought out and reasoned arguments why that is the case? If you try and still only come up with 'Obama and Hitler had approximately the same number of fingers' or whatever, maybe reconsider your outlook.

[Bob]

Also why do you post these things here? You must know that no one here falls for this stuff.

i'm still holding out hope that he's just some elaborate troll and that he's not actually so dumb as to believe any of the things that he's posted...1,045 times...

[valvano]

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-persuasion-patrick-courrielche/

[Echewta]

They both enjoy(ed) pancakes?

[valvano]

now picked up by ABC....happy Fox haters?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/after-inappropriate-nea-conference-call-white-house-pushes-new-guidelines.html

:rolleyes:

[Burnout18]

both were/are sharp and snazzy dressers.

[Drederick Tatum]

and both were real good at out loud talking like.

[Bob]

they both hate minorities

[yeahwho]

They both have/had mad court style with the killer split the middle dribble lay-up.

[QueenAdrock]

They both started off as normal politicians but will eventually send 6 million people to their deaths in concentration and death camps. That's what you want to hear, right Valv? :rolleyes:

[Drederick Tatum]

6 million? shiiiit, lets not be modest here, Obama, being the unifying racist and Hitler disciple that he is, won't just stop with the Jews. I think he could top Hitler's 11 million. it's going to be tough, but yes we can.