Sampled tracks.

[Drederick Tatum]

personally one of my small musical pleasures is randomly coming across a old soul/funk/whatever song and recognising a break/loop/whatever from a later hip hop track.

a sizeable section of this board seem well up on their hip hop so I thought I'd make this process a bit less random and solicit some responses from you all.

to get the ball rolling. Footsteps in the Dark - Isley Brothers. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNx9_yBDVQ)

I Want'a Do Something Freaky to You - Leon Haywood. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzUBh1eK2kE)

no Beastie Boys related tracks thanks, this guy already beat you to it (http://beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=89929).

[Kid Presentable]

It's a little like cheating since they all sit on youtube, but:

Skull Snaps - It's a New Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_uMSd4xOM)

The Deele - Shoot Em Up Movies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnR8YzqQdo)

[EN[i]GMA]

The silly people on YouTube are confusing "It's a New Day" with "Synthetic Substitution."

Speaking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0BGIDJ51K4

[kaiser soze]

There's that whole Daft Punk thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4

[Laserface]

GMA;1698600']The silly people on YouTube are confusing "It's a New Day" with "Synthetic Substitution."

Speaking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0BGIDJ51K4

it's not the exact same song, though the beats are really similar, so i could see how you mistook them

[mickill]

Synthetic Substitution has always been the superior of the two, but this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx69x111Yx4) trumps both.

[mickill]

Red Clay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvnc5Y-lp3w) - Jack Wilkins
Better Half (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrS-MFNLDI&feature=related) - Maceo & All The King's Men
As Long As I've Got You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wylfBQjL8I) - The Charmels
Haboglabotribin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg5ISi7MXOE) - Bernard Wright
Soul Vibrations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbE_iHbI3gU) - Kool & The Gang
Deliverance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC21diWb56I) - Space
That's How Long (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnaE9uVj320) - The Chi-Lites
If We Can't Be Lovers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCnai4fXqHs&feature=related) - Phillip Mitchell

[mickill]

These songs are just awesome in general, regardless of their samplabilityness.

I Got The (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVl6nCmQ9o) - Labi Siffre
The Edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pG_3jZxzlo) - David McCallum
Holy Thursday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2OkMHvPXko) David Axelrod
Baby, Let Me Take You In My Arms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ISoVx76LQ) - The Detroit Emeralds
The Break Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB138K_t2jI) - Rufus Thomas
Pass The Peas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1x9j8kecMs) - The JB's
If Loving You Is Wrong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKTAWHRa-0c) - Ramsey Lewis
Hung Up On My Baby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-4GcD-CIpA) - Isaac Hayes

[rirv]

I have a massive boner for Paul's Boutique and when that guy put up the collection of tracks sampled over on the Beazly Boyz forum I wet my pants.

[rirv]

The Funky Worm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrOnHOpgNng) must be Dr. Dre's favourite song.

Also, I haven't cross referenced it but I'm sure Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince used a portion of this for Boom Shake the Room.

[EN[i]GMA]

it's not the exact same song, though the beats are really similar, so i could see how you mistook them

I didn't mistake them. Silly Youtube people mistook them.

Also, all the Incredible Bongo Band stuff. Not that anyone doesn't know these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAI2xpayCkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGXgO0tWpGY

[Laserface]

oh my fault. i thought by "youtube people" you meant people that put the song up.




i'd say anything by "the meters." those guys are the shit. and i gotta mention an obvious one - the beginning of zeppelin's "when the levee breaks." you just can't beat that one. well, maybe the "funky drummer" break can.

great thread. these songs were sampled a lot for good reason.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah to be honest I have the track on my iPod listed as 'Track 01' so when I listened to the Youtube clip I just assumed it was correct. My bad.

The Sylvers - Only One Can Win (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8VE6-oyz6Q)
Tom Scott - Today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4iabt-ilAI)
The Beginning of the End - When She Made Me Promise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ctDZSDZWJQ)
Jackson 5 - Great to be here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1_sZTfjxZE&feature=PlayList&p=4E6077E8E072F624&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=17)
Eric Burdon & War - Magic Mountain (fucked sounding reunion version but I couldn't find the OG) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAOwbFUQI8)
Billy Squire - The Big Beat (love it) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcQYgrm6Vv0)

[Drederick Tatum]

I see what you mean about youtube, Kid P. I never really guessed people would just do all the work for us. it's a great way to track slightly more obscure stuff.

not particularly obscure,but smooth nonetheless Isley Brothers - Between the Sheets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhdcJ7K3XM). who wants a body massage?

[Kid Presentable]

It's cool though, I always enjoy trawling around for these clips. That Isley Bros one rules.

[Drederick Tatum]

^I know what you mean. I just spent another few hours 'digging' online.

hadn't heard that Bernard Wright song before, mickill. just bought the record.

Kool and the Gang - Hollywood Swinging. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHP3svO704s)

[RobMoney$]

I have a massive boner for Paul's Boutique and when that guy put up the collection of tracks sampled over on the Beazly Boyz forum I wet my pants.

There's been a folder of all that stuff on the Hub for years.


I have a playlist with a lot of sampled funk songs on my Groove Holmes.
(Groove Holmes is my Ipod.)
Here's a few that haven't already been mentioned...

The Vibrettes - Humpty Dump. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lVl8VAP9Q)
The Turtles - Buzzsaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWf-nxE4uz8)
Central Line - Walking into Sunshine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWHj2SWGR0Y)
Dr. John - Right Place, Wrong Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85m_j5QTExI&feature=related) (Please check out this video LOLZ)

[mickill]

^ You may or may not have been referencing 7A3 with that Dr John song, but either way, it compelled me to break out the Coolin' In Cali album just now.


hadn't heard that Bernard Wright song before, mickill. just bought the record.

Nice. Master Rocker's my overall favorite cut off of it. Altogether, the whole thing is pretty impressive for an album put together by a 16 year old.

[mickill]

Nevermind. Must be Steady B....forgot about your Philly Connection.

[mickill]

The Bird (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ANFQ2y0NM) - Jimmy McGriff
Two Sisters of Mercy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgHRX02p3Kg) - Mandrill
Home Is Where The Hatred Is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzlFO19m3k&feature=related) - Gil Scott Heron
Day By Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDajPBfUtI) - Eddie Kendricks
Common Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ax0l4tQFVc) - David Ruffin

All from incredible albums, by the way.

[Drederick Tatum]

Nice. Master Rocker's my overall favorite cut off of it. Altogether, the whole thing is pretty impressive for an album put together by a 16 year old.

yeah the majority of the album seems solid. did some background reading and like you mention he was just a teenager, albeit a teenager who'd been in the industry since he probably could remember.

...and any album with a song titled Bread Sandwiches gets my backing.

Bob James - Nautilus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEHKEc7sudE). one of my favourites. my hip hop knowledge is patchy at best, but even I can hear about six tracks in this.

[Drederick Tatum]

Foster Sylvers - Misdemeanour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmieLz7VUm4). with a track called Misdemeanour the fact that he's now a registered sex offender is just the cherry on top. parallels with MJ are kinda weird.

[RobMoney$]

Curtis Mayfield - Move On Up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5GZKtSdy8&feature=related)

[yeahwho]

Best thread in years.

[mickill]

Could be more interesting if we touch on the songs that sample them a little.

Free Soul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLL7bVbepjg) - John Klemmer
Best utilized on this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LxdkAwpuBA&feature=related) song.

Soul Power '74 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V1Pg8JfZs8) - Maceo & The Macks
The main horn break has been used hundreds of times, but these are my favorite interpretations here:

How Ya Livin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB7PIBNt4uk) - Low Profile
Who's Gonna Take the Weight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVc175E75k) - Gang Starr (I can't actually verify this; the actual loop is from Maceo's 'Parrty', but the horn sounds like pieces from 'Soul Power')

[mickill]

Another nice horn break:
Uncle Albert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn1JSpT5LCA) - Freddie Hubbard

Never No More (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAMHVU352iw) - Souls of Mischief (at about 2:53 on the original)

[mickill]

More horns...

The Grunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCQbjoV2lY) - The J.B.'s

One song responsible for 3 great Public Enemy ones (Night Of The Living Baseheads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8GbDYeKVZA), Rebel Without A Pause (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm7dZe0b8Rk), Terminator X To The Edge of Panic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKlNb_GN55c))

The J.B.'s, Maceo, and of course James Brown alone could probably fill pages in this thread.

[HEIRESS]

Can't seem to make you mine - The Seeds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8KvKYRxig)
Diplo used it in his remix of spankrock's "put that pussy on me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYuBthYLOtk)" (doesnt kick in until the 40 second mark...)
perfection!

Them's version of "it's all over now baby blue" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChPJo_UuF6M) used by Beck in "Jack-ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9MwOhoZ0xc)"

Beck did it twice in one album, and used Them's "I can only give you everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt_w9u5_g9k&feature=related)" in "devil's haircut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG3sS8RBdms)"

[cookiepuss]

The Clash "straight to hell" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwm1v1R-qM)

[mickill]

Speaking of Beck...

I Walk On Guilded Splinters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udAJV4dVNyY) - Johnny Jenkins

The whole song rules, but the drumming on it really is just a work of art.

[Helvete]

I know sampling has played a huge part in today's music (and of like ALL hip-hop since it started) and without it, fuck knows what music would be like. But does anything else think that most of the original tracks are actually a load of shit?

Sure I have watched endless hours upon hours of hip-hop documentaries so I appreciate where it all comes from, but I guess I just don't like all the 60s and 70s funk music. I actually have every single volume of Ultimate Breaks and Beats, and some is really cool, but apart from going "oh, I recognise that" I don't like a lot of it.

Sorry, heathen I know.

[yeahwho]

I once sort of liked Beck but now his style (kinda of a scrapbook system of music) makes me feel awkward not only for myself but for him too.

But those samples supplied by you guys prove he knows how to pick 'em. They stand out much stronger than his recordings so I guess I should give snaps to Beck for pointing out some dope songs.

[yeahwho]

I know sampling has played a huge part in today's music (and of like ALL hip-hop since it started) and without it, fuck knows what music would be like. But does anything else think that most of the original tracks are actually a load of shit?

Sure I have watched endless hours upon hours of hip-hop documentaries so I appreciate where it all comes from, but I guess I just don't like all the 60s and 70s funk music. I actually have every single volume of Ultimate Breaks and Beats, and some is really cool, but apart from going "oh, I recognise that" I don't like a lot of it.

Sorry, heathen I know.

Obviously disagree, love the original tracks and if done right they are even sicker in the context of the proper emcee/mixer. I like it all and like your saying Hevete, sometimes an obscure song from the seventies just pops up out of nowhere and knocks a song outta the ballpark.

[mickill]

I know sampling has played a huge part in today's music (and of like ALL hip-hop since it started) and without it, fuck knows what music would be like. But does anything else think that most of the original tracks are actually a load of shit?

No.

Maybe like 10% of it. For the most part, anything recognizable or where a sizable chunk has been used tends to be awesome, so long as the song that sampled it is actually a good song. But even some songs that are complete garbage derive from brilliant original material; MC Hammer was lifting from artists/songs that happened to be excellent. And there's a lot of heavily sampled artists that are just nice period, regardless of who sampled them (ie. Curtis Mayfield, Isaac Hayes, JB, Sly Stone, P-Funk, Barry White etc). The more I think about it, the more I wonder why you would ask such a thing.

[Kid Presentable]

I have always reserved a nod of respect to the people who listened to this stuff before it was sampled, like the samplers themselves, for one. And then it's a great way to be put onto amazing music.

[mickill]

I was listening to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhxGuYVLcWI) earlier today.

[b i o n i c]

there's that site where you can download collections of songs sampled on particular albums, where i got all the beastie boys samples and i have to say the complete opposite to helvete.. ive discovered tons of unbelievable music this way and have pretty much exclusively been listening to sample source songs ive downloaded for the last year.. fucking gold:

http://miscreant-productions.blogspot.com/

great shit.. in short, id say a lot of the time the samples trump the rap song

i suspect that the site owner might visit here once in a while, thanks dude.. if you havent heard of that site, you're welcome.

[Drederick Tatum]

I remember liking this thread.

Patrice Rushen - Remind Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQrtpcwRvDo)

Sylvia Striplin - You Can't Turn Me Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay02lnR34ig&feature=related)

[Drederick Tatum]

pretty epic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BopX81qvdcI

[The Notorious LOL]

Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OGy57tmEY)

[Drederick Tatum]

Soul Searchers - Ashley's Roachclip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfymVPOdMwk)

drum break is a stone cold classic. used by Eric B & Rakim, PM Dawn, RUN DMC, and....Milli Vanilli.