Tadlock's Glasses thus far

[Kid Presentable]

Well it's sounding pretty fucking alright. Back to saying fuck all but saying it real well, I think. Using their rhymes as another layer on the music, and making interesting music to boot.

Pop Your Balloon fills the gap quite nicely where there are overloved songs like Sure Shot and So Watcha Want that I don't really listen to at the moment. It's like Brr Stick Em went and stole Shazam and 3 the Hard Way's lunch money, and bought some Lebanese restaurant music with it's ill-gotten gains. It's incessant and insouciant at the same time.

Lee Majors is still my favourite, it's the coolest shit they've done in over a decade, but the tracks are all sweet. B-Boys in the Cut is probably my least favourite, but yeah sounding farkin good guys. Too Many Rappers, yep still loving it.

I'm a Hot Sauce denier, by the way.

[Guy Incognito]

Pop Your Balloon (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[cj hood]

Lee Majors is a track i'll be replaying as long as Rhyming & Stealing....the other, not so much....

[laurie_hammy]

This album is looking to be a favourite for me for sure. Not to forget theres a fuckin part 2 as well !!!

[Guy Incognito]

. Not to forget theres a fuckin part 2 as well !!!

steady on, lets not get our hopes up

[Kid Presentable]

Lee Majors is a track i'll be replaying as long as Rhyming & Stealing....the other, not so much....

Come oooooooooooooooooooooon hood Pop your balloon sounds like they custom made it for you.

[laurie_hammy]

The Pop Your Balloon beat sounds like something Mix Master would make on his Bangzilla album, soo SiK (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Come on Laurence, it sounds much better than anything on Bangzilla. No hate.

[pesto pizza]

i like the new songs in this order
1.too many rappers
2.pop your balloon(can't really hear the lyrics)
3.lee majors come again(goes on too long)
4.b-boys in the cut(love the rapping on this track)

[Kid Presentable]

I totally want to criticise your criticisms, but I have to tend to my barbecue.

[cj hood]

i'm diggin on PYB, but it reminds me to much of Shazam (my wife pointed that out to me, but i concur)....

edit: but this could change when i hear the album version...

[wesleysnaps]

i like the new songs in this order
1.too many rappers
2.pop your balloon(can't really hear the lyrics)
3.lee majors come again(goes on too long)
4.b-boys in the cut(love the rapping on this track)

Being that I haven't heard Lee Majors or B-Boys in the Cut (I must be the only one) I can't relate to this list.

[pshabi]

Banged all 4 on the way to work today.

My picks:

1) Majors
2) Too many
3) Pop Pop
4) In the Cut

Good Good Shit Y'all!

And I'm right on with KP in REFUSING to stop calling this shit Tadlock's. The jewel case for the disc I burnt says "Tadlock Sampler."

[Kid Presentable]

I haven't had to change the volume in between songs, and deal with radio rips missing pieces and 'clean' versions, this much, since the days of mixtapes actually being on cassette.

[BeastieAlbum07]

I think Pop Your Balloon could be a crowd hyper in an arena near you soon.

[laurie_hammy]

Come on Laurence, it sounds much better than anything on Bangzilla. No hate.

Didnt say one was better than the other I said it sounds like a Bangzilla type of beat.

[Kid Presentable]

Didnt say one was better than the other I said it sounds like a Bangzilla type of beat.

I don't think the comparison does it any justice.

[b i o n i c]

yeah definately.. this albums shaping up nicely

i think it can safely be said to be the best album since hello nasty

the albums before hello nasty are pretty much untouchable, but id go so far as to say that theres a small possibility of this one being on par with ill communication, a small chance of this album being their best album since ill communication


the only thing im a little disappointed with is the collabo with nas
the song has its moments, but it sounded unfinished or something to me
but whatever, its a not a bad song though.. i just wanted to hear something more from a rare collabo like nas.. its nowhere near as tight as get it together.. i think that in time it could evolve through live performances with mix master mike if they ever do get nas to come out

lee majors i think has to be the illest SONG (so far from what we've heard) since i dont know when... i feel as excited about it as i did with sabotage back in 94 (before i played it out that year). out of everything new so far, i think this song has the widest appeal, the energy is undeniable. its probably the most innovative single song theyve done since maybe sabotage i hate to be comparing it to that, but im thinking how i felt when i first heard that one vs how i felt when i first heard lee majors. whatever they were tripping on that day, i hope theyve got massive piles of it in the vault for whenever they record in the future - - fucking tight

in the cut is a good song.. i like it and i think the best parts of that song are definately mike d and just generally that light snare (is that some sort of jazz snare?) beat .. that shit sounds sampled, love it. i would give this song much more props without the harry larry ending, but again.. not complaining too much - i like the song

pop the balloon is pretty fresh, its not too innovative but to me it sounds like the most their most 'relevant' song in terms of sound that stacks up to anything else in pop hip hop. i think lyrically / vocal delivery it might be the best one so far

those are my thoughts. im pretty effin happy with everything so far, cant wait to hear more

[YoungRemy]

I'd still like to hear the album versions of 'Cut and 'Baloon to judge them properly. Too Many Rappers was a radio release and Lee Majors was a rip from a single...

I'm hoping that album flows a bit better as a whole, greater than the sum etc.

like the way PB or Hello Nasty did, each track led to the next one, but they could be completely different flows and overall vibe...

that is what I am hoping and looking forward for. I haven't listened any of the first three except for maybe once or twice each. I'm not saying I'm underwhelmed, but I've only had a bite of the tomato. I want the whole pizza pie.

[fonky pizza]

Banged all 4 on the way to work today.

My picks:

1) Majors
2) Too many
3) Pop Pop
4) In the Cut

Good Good Shit Y'all!



Same top 4 for me here(y)

[b i o n i c]

I'd still like to hear the album versions of 'Cut and 'Baloon to judge them properly. Too Many Rappers was a radio release and Lee Majors was a rip from a single...

I'm hoping that album flows a bit better as a whole, greater than the sum etc.

like the way PB or Hello Nasty did, each track led to the next one, but they could be completely different flows and overall vibe...

that is what I am hoping and looking forward for. I haven't listened any of the first three except for maybe once or twice each. I'm not saying I'm underwhelmed, but I've only had a bite of the tomato. I want the whole pizza pie.



im surprised at your take!

[Brother McDuff]

the record is definitely hinting at something far more exciting than TT5B and TMU. If there was anything to say about these tracks it's that they're 'fun'. You can tell they were casual and whimsical in the studio, and the vibe is surely catchable.

my only complaint is that I miss the textures. their beats used to be a bit more 3-dimensional and crawling with layers. that said, these songs are sure to translate wickedly in a live setting. the spring/summer tour is gonna be bananas. can't wait to hear the official mixes and masters of this album, hi-fi styley.

have a good weekend y'all, wander out into the world and pop-pop some balloons!:)

[Nerd Fight]

I think it's cool how this group who started way back in the day are still creative and still putting out tracks with as much energy as lee majors. Out of all the hip hop acts from the 80s they're the ones who are going strongest.
I bet no-one imagined that the crazy kids who put out 'fight for your right' would still be rocking it 20 years later.

At the mo my order of favourite HSC songs is:

1) Lee Majors
2) Pop
3) Too Many Rappers
4) In the cut

[pm0ney]

the record is definitely hinting at something far more exciting than TT5B and TMU. If there was anything to say about these tracks it's that they're 'fun'. You can tell they were casual and whimsical in the studio, and the vibe is surely catchable.

my only complaint is that I miss the textures. their beats used to be a bit more 3-dimensional and crawling with layers. that said, these songs are sure to translate wickedly in a live setting. the spring/summer tour is gonna be bananas. can't wait to hear the official mixes and masters of this album, hi-fi styley.

have a good weekend y'all, wander out into the world and pop-pop some balloons!:)

Well, they were textured 10-15 years ago. They certainly haven't been this century. :)

[pshabi]

my only complaint is that I miss the textures. their beats used to be a bit more 3-dimensional and crawling with layers. that said, these songs are sure to translate wickedly in a live setting. the spring/summer tour is gonna be bananas. can't wait to hear the official mixes and masters of this album, hi-fi styley.


My feelings exactly. Thanks for typing them out.

[Kid Presentable]

I think that's a quick way of saying "I'm not going to like this as much as Hello Nasty". And that's cooler than cool. As I posited in another thread, I like these because they're just good tunes. They don't require a lot of thought. I do hear the greater than the sum of its parts thing that Remy pointed out.

[JasonP]

My fav seems to always be the one I am currently listening to. Also it would be easier to judge if they all came out at the same time.

But trying to be objective I gotta say this is the order of 'best' to 'close to the best'...

1. Pop
2. Lee Majors
3. Too Many Rappers
4. B-boys in the Cut

I appreciate Lee Majors so much as its the song that will probably define HSC. However, they hit Pop Pop right on the head. That song is bang-a-langin biatch.

[pm0ney]

Is it weird that Lee Majors is my least favorite of all the tracks?

[laurie_hammy]

My fav seems to always be the one I am currently listening to. Also it would be easier to judge if they all came out at the same time.

But trying to be objective I gotta say this is the order of 'best' to 'close to the best'...

1. Pop
2. Lee Majors
3. Too Many Rappers
4. B-boys in the Cut

I appreciate Lee Majors so much as its the song that will probably define HSC. However, they hit Pop Pop right on the head. That song is bang-a-langin biatch.

Thats my order of fav songs right there too.

[Kid Presentable]

Definitely getting the 'back to their party roots' vibe.

[acamus]

1 pop
2 lee
3 cut
4 too

[cj hood]

question is: what's the first single? what's the track that's going to part of the encore for the next 10 years?

[Kid Presentable]

Lee Majors could be part of the encore, but I thought word had it that 'Make some noise' was the first single in this case. If you mean what's going to be their ender-ender for shows from this album, I don't know that there will be one in this case.

[Brother McDuff]

I think that's a quick way of saying "I'm not going to like this as much as Hello Nasty". And that's cooler than cool. As I posited in another thread, I like these because they're just good tunes. They don't require a lot of thought. I do hear the greater than the sum of its parts thing that Remy pointed out.

yeah, these jams are just straight up meat and potatos. a solid beat and some chunky rhymes. will bang nice in the car; getcha psyched, as opposed to trip you out and consume you. if i understand the 'sum of all the parts' statement accurately, i agree, i think.

[mathcart]

I've been thoroughly impressed, although as a huge fan I will concede that means very little. They're all fun jams and I agree 100% with what lots have already said- that this album is being recorded to add to their live sonic arsenal and make them an unstoppable killing machine in concert. Shits gonna be ridiculous. Should be properly bloody next summer- your all on notice- attend shows at your own risk!
:eek:

[mathcart]

side note:


I feel like I dig Lee Majors, Pop Your Balloon & B-Boys In the Cut all about the same which is a lot, say like 8.5 out of 10, with LM & PYB feeling a little stronger to me- but not much (maybe 8.8 to 8.3)


Too many rappers on the other hand I think is the worst piece of garbage ever to have been perpetrated on innocent listeners in the history of music. I don't like anything about it. It makes me hate Nas. Thus I would rate it a -1,000,000 on a scale of 1 to 10.


However...


I will concede it contains maybe my favorite line in any BBoys song I've ever heard, of course delivered by Mike D, the immortal "we come together like Peanut butter and sandwiches"! I giggle my goddamn ass off every single time I listen to him say that ridiculously great rhyme. Its so good it makes me listen to a song that I hate. I'd rate that line 1,000,000 on a scale of 1 to 10.


Thus on balance, I'd have to rate TMR's as a 500,000 on a scale of 1 to 10 and so by comparison my #1 rated Tadlock's Era song. The law of averages has spoken and there is nothing I can do about it.


My thinking is that this sort of mathematical logic must explain why it is so many peoples favorite song thus far in this thread. Would have to be- It was for me. I couldn't understand it until I actually crunched the numbers. Very illuminating and just the kind of logical consistency I have come to expect from the fine minds in this place!
(y)



End of idiotic side note, please feel free to continue thread at you leisure...

[pshabi]

Too many rappers on the other hand I think is the worst piece of garbage ever to have been perpetrated on innocent listeners in the history of music.

If they ever do this live again (highly doubtful:(), the bass that kicks in when yauch starts spitting the first verse is gonna explode my heart in the front row of the venue. I hope I get to experience that.

There's pretty much a dope line in every verse from every MC on the track, starting with Yauch's "death is the cousin of sleep" line. Adrock's first verse is fire. You namedrop JJ Fad in 2009, you get a cookie from me. Nas's first starts slow, but "you ain't got that cut throat in ya.....beginna. Slug peela ur not...mafioso? nope." makes me feel like the true-to-life G that I've always imagined myself to be. Then we get Mike's verse, which is just magnif. "How many rappers must get dissed?" Every last one of them, Mike. Get 'em all.

Then I love the chorus. Especially, "Ladies and gents attention, Nas in the house with beastie boys... we can turn it out....perpetrators...we can point 'em out!" I'll be damned if I don't have that in my head at least thrice a day.

I'll admit Yauch's 2nd isn't all that special, but I love the delivery on "blow you bullshit rappers straight out the frame." Adrock's "I take the cake, I stole the mold, let go the micraphone well that's mine to hold" is so well-packaged as well. Then ya get "Sniffin'...buffin'...huffin." I coulda swore it was "puffin" not "buffin" but a closer listen made me think otherwise. They're buffin' my man's crotch space, which is beyond great. Nas's flow is great in his 2nd verse, but the "russian blonde" line is lame. "Mike D...the man of mystery" verse contains the sammich line and the closer "go back in time send a fax from my car" is the icing on the cake.

This track bangs and it's a collab with one of NY's most respected. What's not to like? 9.5/10 with the russian blonde line being my only deduction. :D

[pm0ney]

What's wrong with Russian blondes?!

[pshabi]

What's wrong with Russian blondes?!

Nuthin'. I mean, you can never be too wet. Just don't know why you'd say that in this song.

[Kid Presentable]

trip you out and consume you

This is pretty subjective, though, and mainly to do with Hello Nasty being your absolute favourite Beastie Boys record. There are people out there who hear all the bells and whistles that went into those songs and are sort of underwhelmed at how little came out of them.

Hello Nasty is kind of like a latter period Beatles album, full of studio tricks, with not much of it being recreated live (which is an awesome achievement, it's a big bastard). That's cool, but Ill Communication on backwards was much more about songs and fun and shit. I think they're back on that tip.

EDIT: I am happy and we are happy.

[destructo]

Too many rappers on the other hand I think is the worst piece of garbage ever to have been perpetrated on innocent listeners in the history of music. I don't like anything about it. It makes me hate Nas. Thus I would rate it a -1,000,000 on a scale of 1 to 10.

I can think of many, many more songs that are far, far worse than Too Many Rappers.

[midzi]

For me it's

1. Lee Majors
2. Pop your Balloon

I can't get into the other two but I'd choose Too many rappers over Bboys in the cut.

It's fun to hear the new songs but when the album finally comes out it won't have the same effect, I mean I like to listen and treat albums as a whole and with 4 songs already known it won't be the same.

[cj hood]

1. LM
5. PYB
6. BBITC
10. TMR

[mathcart]

So before I begin, I will concede, I may of been in a "mood" yesterday...
:o

If they ever do this live again (highly doubtful:(), the bass that kicks in when yauch starts spitting the first verse is gonna explode my heart in the front row of the venue. I hope I get to experience that.



I get this, and I think you are right that this song was created to be among their least performed songs. Which as I stated, is fine with me, and I certainly get the appeal of the rare bboy jam coming out live. But it really underwhelms me too much to look forward too...



There's pretty much a dope line in every verse from every MC on the track, starting with Yauch's "death is the cousin of sleep" line. Adrock's first verse is fire. You namedrop JJ Fad in 2009, you get a cookie from me. Nas's first starts slow, but "you ain't got that cut throat in ya.....beginna. Slug peela ur not...mafioso? nope." makes me feel like the true-to-life G that I've always imagined myself to be. Then we get Mike's verse, which is just magnif. "How many rappers must get dissed?" Every last one of them, Mike. Get 'em all.

Then I love the chorus. Especially, "Ladies and gents attention, Nas in the house with beastie boys... we can turn it out....perpetrators...we can point 'em out!" I'll be damned if I don't have that in my head at least thrice a day.

I'll admit Yauch's 2nd isn't all that special, but I love the delivery on "blow you bullshit rappers straight out the frame." Adrock's "I take the cake, I stole the mold, let go the micraphone well that's mine to hold" is so well-packaged as well. Then ya get "Sniffin'...buffin'...huffin." I coulda swore it was "puffin" not "buffin" but a closer listen made me think otherwise. They're buffin' my man's crotch space, which is beyond great. Nas's flow is great in his 2nd verse, but the "russian blonde" line is lame. "Mike D...the man of mystery" verse contains the sammich line and the closer "go back in time send a fax from my car" is the icing on the cake.

This track bangs and it's a collab with one of NY's most respected. What's not to like? 9.5/10 with the russian blonde line being my only deduction. :D

Theres good lines in there, but I don't know that I've ever experienced this (especially w/ a bboys cut) the song is so much LESS then the sum of its parts (for me). The good lines don't seem to fit together in anything I care about. Maybe I think its ridiculous for a bunch of mcs in their 40s (and late 30's Nas) to be "dissin' other mcs". Its stupid and every Nas line sucks (the most overrated mc ever imho). Look its all opinion here but I doubt i will ever come around on it, but I do get why others might like it so much -star studded collabo, destined to be rare, ridiculous bass line (that I hate).

In conclusion, no sir, I don't like it!
But I'm trying to respect others love of it.

[Brother McDuff]

This is pretty subjective, though, and mainly to do with Hello Nasty being your absolute favourite Beastie Boys record. There are people out there who hear all the bells and whistles that went into those songs and are sort of underwhelmed at how little came out of them.

Hello Nasty is kind of like a latter period Beatles album, full of studio tricks, with not much of it being recreated live (which is an awesome achievement, it's a big bastard). That's cool, but Ill Communication on backwards was much more about songs and fun and shit. I think they're back on that tip.

EDIT: I am happy and we are happy.

While HN holds a particularly special place in my heart, I wouldnt hold it to any higher a regard than their other classics (i.e. every record before that). I would consider IC on the end of a thicker soup as well, really, as far as texture goes. It's a 'beefier', more robust stock, but thick (in a beautiful way). Yes, less thinking and more doing this time around. I feel ya.

P.s. I love the latter Beatles comparison, and I agree very much so. I am a sucker from for studio wizardry.

Happy happy joy joy.

[Brother McDuff]

For me it's

1. Lee Majors
2. Pop your Balloon

I can't get into the other two but I'd choose Too many rappers over Bboys in the cut.

It's fun to hear the new songs but when the album finally comes out it won't have the same effect, I mean I like to listen and treat albums as a whole and with 4 songs already known it won't be the same.

Mind reader, Midzi. Mind reader.

LM then PYB, yes yes yes.

BBITC is just garbage. I'm sorry, I just really think it's half-assed and uninspired.

Consider this though, the tracks are gonna be in nice high quality when you hear them on record. Not ripped from a record, a video game, or the radio. It'll be nice and balanced. It's easy to forget the difference sonic quality can really make.

[Nygel]

really? i dont like lee majors one bit. maybe a solid version hasnt been released? they all sound live and kinda meh. every other track tho, ace.

[pm0ney]

really? i dont like lee majors one bit. maybe a solid version hasnt been released? they all sound live and kinda meh. every other track tho, ace.

Agreed. I'd rank them:

TMR
PYB
BBITC
LM

[wesleysnaps]

really? i dont like lee majors one bit. maybe a solid version hasnt been released? they all sound live and kinda meh. every other track tho, ace.


Yeah I'm still trying to wrap my head around it and why so many people like it. I do like that it's them playing the instruments and such, but it doesn't sound like them. Also that hook the way they sing it sounds like an Atmosphere song of their last album. Am I the only who hears that?

Is there a version of b-boys in the cut with music or is it just what's on mic to mic?

[pshabi]

Yeah I'm still trying to wrap my head around it and why so many people like it. I do like that it's them playing the instruments and such, but it doesn't sound like them. Also that hook the way they sing it sounds like an Atmosphere song of their last album. Am I the only who hears that?

Is there a version of b-boys in the cut with music or is it just what's on mic to mic?

Look down the thread page at, "wow I suck at the internet."

[Brother McDuff]

Look down the thread page at, "wow I suck at the internet."

You've always had a way with words, p. :D

[laurie_hammy]

So happy so far with 4 songs out, with a chance of a 5th with that DJ Hero thing. Definatly been keeping the Beastie cravings occupied (y)

[Brother McDuff]

So happy so far with 4 songs out, with a chance of a 5th with that DJ Hero thing. Definatly been keeping the Beastie cravings occupied (y)

what's the possible 5th ?

[ILLMIX]

what's the possible 5th ?

'Here's a Little Somethin' for Ya' is the 5th which will be included in the upcoming DJ Hero game released on 27th of this month, so in about 2 weeks!

[laurie_hammy]

'Here's a Little Somethin' for Ya' is the 5th which will be included in the upcoming DJ Hero game released on 27th of this month, so in about 2 weeks!

Is it the original or a remix of the track ?

[ham and cheese]

I’m really surprised that PYB is getting this much love. It’s an ok track but the music isn’t really doing it for me. The chorus is too straight forward, it would have worked better if they’d all joined in one at a time. Good rhymes, but the other 3 tracks have far more life and energy - I had high hopes for a track with a title like this, something different, but 3 out of 4 ain’t bad.

For sheer, unique, fresh creativity - Lee Majors wins every time

Bring on the album as a whole now, I feel it needs to be judged as a piece of work instead of individual tracks.

[Kid Presentable]

I’m really surprised that PYB is getting this much love. It’s an ok track but the music isn’t really doing it for me. The chorus is too straight forward, it would have worked better if they’d all joined in one at a time.


Crikey some people are eckthpertth

[camo]

The albums not out and we're already using acronyms for the song titles.

I love it :D

Concerning HSC, I'd have to say that I've not been massively happy about any of the tracks so far. I can't quite put my finger on it but I'm sure it's the sound of the voices that are grating on me. Listen to HN and then TT5B, the difference is there to hear. I'm not a fan of the echo. I was hoping that they'd have ditched whatever it was they used in the TT5B era. Ah well.

Anyways, one thing I do love about the tracks is just how different they sound from one another. You can't knock eclecticism.

One think you can knock thought is TMR. If your gonna PUT Nas and the Beasties on the same track then I expect a Solid gold smash, 'A' games all round please...but in my opinion it's a wasted opportunity.

[ILLMIX]

Is it the original or a remix of the track ?

Mash up I guess with DJ shadow, but I think you may be able to rip the original.

[Kid Presentable]

So with the DJ Hero song and 'Make some Noise' (if ithat is indeed the first single), that's 6 songs out of the bag pre-release. I wonder if the label or band would consider this a disaster. Nothing can be done about it, really.

Interesting to see how much marketing effort was in fact being put into this record what with videos, video games, golden tickets and radio spots and so on. And deservedly so, I think. This is the best they've sounded to me since Ill Communication.

[ham and cheese]

The albums not out and we're already using One think you can knock thought is TMR. If your gonna PUT Nas and the Beasties on the same track then I expect a Solid gold smash, 'A' games all round please...but in my opinion it's a wasted opportunity.


I’m a big fan of TMR, but I reckon the problems that some folks are having with the track wouldn’t have existed if they’d all been in the studio together recording this. I definitely think the second half might have been more of a back and forth between all four mc’s and all the better for it - but come on it’s got a great chorus and some pretty fresh rhymes - far more energy than PYB!!

[camo]

Yeah thats a good point. You can tell that they recorded their bits away from each camp. I imagine any artist who spends time with the Beasties spends
that time bouncing off them and generally having a good time coming up with goofy rhymes.

I wonder how different TMR would sound if they had done it like they did with Tip?

[pm0ney]

I'd say the overwhelming majority of collaboration tracks nowadays are done the way Too Many Rappers are done. That's just the nature of the business. I really love that track, regardless of how it was recorded.

[senbei]

I wonder how different TMR would sound if they had done it like they did with Tip?

Actually, they did it pretty much the same way.. From the anthology booklet:

"Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest would usually stop by when he was in town, just to hang out, listen to music, and play some ball. We'd been wanting Tip to get on a track for a while, so one night we played him the track, and he was like, "This shit is funky, I could rhyme on this." So Mario, as usual, wasted no time in handing him the mic. Tip freestyled a few takes, and then we fit our rhymes around his" - Mike D

[Brother McDuff]

Actually, they did it pretty much the same way.. From the anthology booklet:

actually, this one was phoned in. the bboys mentioned in an interview that they sent him the beat and he recorded the vocals somewhere else and sent them back.

[laurie_hammy]

I doubt it would happen but id love Beastie's to do another track with Q-Tip. I saw Tip when he toured with his band an was easily one of the best live performances iv ever seen.

[camo]

Actually, they did it pretty much the same way.. From the anthology booklet:

No they didn't.

[The Good Heads]

Going back to the theme of the thread... Only heard these tracks on YouTube and the audio quality is a bit poor but HSCpt1 is shaping up nicely for me.
Pop Your Balloon my favourite so far. Lee Majors and B-Boys in the Cut - yeah I get them. Too Many Rappers is growing on me after being underwhelmed initially.

One question, what are of these remixes we're hearing? The version of B-Boys in the Cut that's out there on YouTube has a real Check Your Head feel to the backing track but is this just a mix somebody has done based on the a cappella? Also, folk have mentioned Pop Your Balloon being a DJ Shadow mash up (I might be getting confused here). What's the deal? Am I getting all attached to these versions only for the release to bring completely different mixes?

[pshabi]

Going back to the theme of the thread... Only heard these tracks on YouTube and the audio quality is a bit poor but HSCpt1 is shaping up nicely for me.
Pop Your Balloon my favourite so far. Lee Majors and B-Boys in the Cut - yeah I get them. Too Many Rappers is growing on me after being underwhelmed initially.

One question, what are of these remixes we're hearing? The version of B-Boys in the Cut that's out there on YouTube has a real Check Your Head feel to the backing track but is this just a mix somebody has done based on the a cappella? Also, folk have mentioned Pop Your Balloon being a DJ Shadow mash up (I might be getting confused here). What's the deal? Am I getting all attached to these versions only for the release to bring completely different mixes?

You're confused.

BBoys in the cut is the real deal. The acapella was released and then the instrumental was leaked. People put 'em together, but it's the "real" track.

Pop your balloon isn't related to DJ Shadow, you're thinking of the track "Here's a little something for ya" which is mashed up with DJ shadow for the video game DJ hero.

Pop your balloon will have some different lyrics when it comes out but the mix is the same as far as I know.

[The Good Heads]

You're confused.

BBoys in the cut is the real deal. The acapella was released and then the instrumental was leaked. People put 'em together, but it's the "real" track.

Pop your balloon isn't related to DJ Shadow, you're thinking of the track "Here's a little something for ya" which is mashed up with DJ shadow for the video game DJ hero.

Pop your balloon will have some different lyrics when it comes out but the mix is the same as far as I know.
Thanks for setting me straight!

[Kid Presentable]

Didn't Michelles Farm/Miramanee claim that B-Boys in the Cut had a different beat at one of the shows?

[dave790]

BBITC is just garbage. I'm sorry, I just really think it's half-assed and uninspired.



It's probably my favourite. Nice and simple, I think I'm a sucker for the 'Rhyme the Rhyme Well's and the 'Just a Test's, short and sweet, one beat. You need them on the albums. Half-arsed sounds about right in a Brohaha sense. Which, again, I like.

[ILLMIX]

It's probably my favourite. Nice and simple, I think I'm a sucker for the 'Rhyme the Rhyme Well's and the 'Just a Test's, short and sweet, one beat. You need them on the albums. Half-arsed sounds about right in a Brohaha sense. Which, again, I like.

I think Rhyme the Rhyme Well would have been a epic classic if it had an extra verse from each bboy, to me it ends just as you're really into the song, bit like The Move, but this is just personal opinion.

[The Good Heads]

It's probably my favourite. Nice and simple, I think I'm a sucker for the 'Rhyme the Rhyme Well's and the 'Just a Test's, short and sweet, one beat. You need them on the albums. Half-arsed sounds about right in a Brohaha sense. Which, again, I like.
I like it too because of the simple funk groove, this is Beastie bread and butter. There has to be a cut like this on the record.

[Brother McDuff]

That's cool. If BBITC makes other bboy fans happy, then I'm all for it. (y):)

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Didn't Michelles Farm/Miramanee claim that B-Boys in the Cut had a different beat at one of the shows?

not me -- i wonder if that is the case. There were only two live performances of the song and i was at neither unfortunately (see below):

http://www.beastiemania.com/songspotlight/show.php?s=bboysinthecut&band=b

[pshabi]

Didn't Michelles Farm/Miramanee claim that B-Boys in the Cut had a different beat at one of the shows?

Are insinuating they are the same, cause I never thought that. Anyway, Miramanee did, but I thought it was settled that she just had no idea what she was talking about. I guess we will see.

[The Good Heads]

That's cool. If BBITC makes other bboy fans happy, then I'm all for it. (y):)
That's a good attitude to have. :)

HSC is sounding solid based on the four tracks out there. Are we likely to hear a fifth anytime soon?

[YoungRemy]

Are we likely to hear a fifth anytime soon?

here's a little something for ya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UaivlDjjig)

[camo]

DAMMIT! Stupid anti YT work filters!!! :mad:

What is it?

[b i o n i c]

here;s a little something for ya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpLjhU5lac) - is the same as the other one?

[laurie_hammy]

Oh Yes I Guess Im The Toast Of Manhattan

[The Good Heads]

here's a little something for ya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UaivlDjjig)

Nice one, thanks for that. I like it. And this...

Beastie Boys - Lee Majors Come Again vs. Daft Punk - Da Funk (Cut Chemist Mix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1tN2-00gWY)

[cj hood]

wasn't yauch photographed with his daughter at some video game convention as of late....maybe this would explain the 2 HSC trax being used in this game....

[The Good Heads]

wasn't yauch photographed with his daughter at some video game convention as of late....maybe this would explain the 2 HSC trax being used in this game....
Seems to be a launch party for something else...
see here (http://thatgirlattheparty.com/2009/06/09/nintendo-wii-indiana-jones-game-launch/)

[M.C. Guevera]

This is the first album since Hello Nasty that just *feels* like a Beastie Boys album. It feels like a band effort again, at least IMO. Everything, the lyrics, the samples, the beats, mixing and mashing, rapping over their own instrumental cuts, the song titles even, it's pure Beastie. Like when people think of the Beastie Boys, this is what they're thinking of. Hearing "Lee Majors Come Again" and "B-Boys In The Cut" being performed live only reconfirmed that. They don't sound out of place next to "Root Down" and "Sure Shot" and "So What'cha Want?" and whatnot.

Personally, I am excited and can't wait for the new release date.

[Brother McDuff]

Hearing "Lee Majors Come Again" and "B-Boys In The Cut" being performed live only reconfirmed that.


So what's the verdict? When you saw BBITC live was it the same beat or something different?

[pshabi]

So what's the verdict? When you saw BBITC live was it the same beat or something different?

I think he meant the download link the hub thread.

[M.C. Guevera]

So what's the verdict? When you saw BBITC live was it the same beat or something different?

It's from the link posted here and in the hub. It was the same beat. It just sounded really smooth live. A very nice performance. It'll be nice to have on future setlists.

[Brother McDuff]

:o understood. Haven't eyed the hub for sometime now. Sounds like it's time to harvest some new boots. (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Here's a longer version of the DJ Hero cut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6RlEuNu2QI&NR=1). It has another shawl reference in it. Still too much ancillary noise to judge the track.

[The Good Heads]

Here's a longer version of the DJ Hero cut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6RlEuNu2QI&NR=1). It has another shawl reference in it. Still too much ancillary noise to judge the track.
The rhymes sound good but as you say the audio recording's not that great. Looking forward to hearing this one as the Beasties intended.

[pm0ney]

That game looks fucking sick. Numbers song >>> Mind numbingly played out classic rock songs.

[BangkokB]

I would just like to say that I thank this thread for my looking for the aforementioned tracks.
I am Blown Away!

Too Many Rappers is teh Hot Shit
Lee Majors Comes Again is Outrageously Sick

The other I'm not too crazy about

But hey I think this LP is shaping up to be the Greatest they've put out in Far Far Too Long..........And I wasn't so much a fan of Hello Nasty and hated TT5B but this makes up for that in Spades

[cj hood]

finally got these trax on my mp3 player (i kick it semi-old school):

B'boys in the Cut - the "1st single" which is a tad better than the last (hiphop) lead off single CIO. Grade: B-

Lee Majors - Best overall track of the 5 leaked. The return to the CYH style is a breath of fresh air. Grade: A+

Too Many Rappers - i'm comparing this to (a TT5B track as well)...."Open Letter" in the vein that it's a great idea, but poorly executed (ie weak rhymes & production). Grade: B

Pop Your Balloon - Best hiphop track. I don't want to hear the version with the profanity. muting the profanity gives it more of an edge. i still like the pimped out, bling filled, big booty ho's club idea for a vid.
Grade: A

Here's a little something for ya - I know it's not possible, but I wish they would put this track on the album as is. The scratching, the muffled lyrics and the f'ed up cadence (not stanza/refrain, stanza/refrain, repeat) make it fresh. Grade: A-

[senbei]

I know it's not possible, but I wish they would put this track on the album as is. The scratching, the muffled lyrics and the f'ed up cadence (not stanza/refrain, stanza/refrain, repeat) make it fresh. Grade: A-

Definitely agree on this. I really hope they mess up a bit more on the song structure on HSC. Lee Majors aint so far in that sense, which is another reason why it's so ffffffffresh.

[Jiberish]

Here's a little something for ya - I know it's not possible, but I wish they would put this track on the album as is. The scratching, the muffled lyrics and the f'ed up cadence (not stanza/refrain, stanza/refrain, repeat) make it fresh. Grade: A-[/QUOTE]

If not this version w/ the scratched lyrics etc. then do it to some song sometime somewhere on the album. They have one of the best DJ's in their corner. Utilize him.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah messing with the layouts would be cool. Pop your Balloon is a bit like a remix of Shazam as is. I was messing around with audacity - Dilla's 'Over the Breaks' and the 'B-Boys in the cut pella', no breaks, just each verse flowing into the other. I'd upload it, but fuck that shit.

[fonky pizza]

I really like Pop your Balloon now! I have it playing all the time in my headphones(y)

[carlson.213]

still not sure why everyone is digging lee majors.
the music is poor and the lyrics cannot be heard.

pop your baloon seems to be the best track thus far.

too many rappers would be sick if the beat was fresh. the version put out by the check your head 2 dj was real noice. i forget the name of the project. check your head 2 was the best i could come up with.

[pshabi]

B'boys in the Cut - the "1st single" which is a tad better than the last (hiphop) lead off single CIO. Grade: B-



No fucking way, bro.



Here's a little something for ya - I know it's not possible, but I wish they would put this track on the album as is. The scratching, the muffled lyrics and the f'ed up cadence (not stanza/refrain, stanza/refrain, repeat) make it fresh. Grade: A-

NO FUCKING WAY, BRO.

[pshabi]

still not sure why everyone is digging lee majors.
the music is poor and the lyrics cannot be heard.

pop your baloon seems to be the best track thus far.

too many rappers would be sick if the beat was fresh. the version put out by the check your head 2 dj was real noice. i forget the name of the project. check your head 2 was the best i could come up with.

recheck your head

[jayjacobson16]

still not sure why everyone is digging lee majors.
the music is poor and the lyrics cannot be heard.

pop your baloon seems to be the best track thus far.

too many rappers would be sick if the beat was fresh. the version put out by the check your head 2 dj was real noice. i forget the name of the project. check your head 2 was the best i could come up with.


All those same kind of beats that producers make are gay... If too many rappers had some dumb ass rnb/techno instrumental it would suck balls. No offense to max tannone. The Beastie Boys know what they are doing
They make awesome beats.
No one else knows how to do it like they do.

The problem about some so called "Beastie Boys fans" is that they just want the beastie boys to sound like everyon and everything else.
WHY? They are the only ones who haven't join the band wagon of shitty beats like everyone else did.

listen to soulja boy's and lil wayne's beats. That is NOT hip hop.
having the song go beep beep beep boop boop boop and occasionally weeehoo is not music let alone hip hop.

So please no more opinions about how they should team up with shitty ass producers and totally sell out.

Everyone
KNOWS hip hop and music alike is all about commercial now a days. The producers know they can come up with shit and people
will like it. as long as it is played on the radio all day and night.

I don't even want to think about them making horrible beats and selling out. Or having "big booty hoes" in their videos. "big booty hoes" are just a way to distract the listener and attract him/her to a blank video.

The beastie boys are all i listen to. If they sold out then i would have no music to listen to when i want to be happy or when i feel like shit.

People who want to change the artist they listen to aren't really fans.
I think they just like the idea of being a fan.

and besides the whole album thus far is fucking awesome and all the tracks are completely diverse from eachother,and each track stands out.

Be thankful they are REAL ARTISTS and don't make rnb/techno beats for hip hop.

[Kid Presentable]

I don't get how people can jock these tinny electronic remix beats, and hate on TT5B in the same breath.

I would love if they switched up their format a bit.

[Brother McDuff]

The beastie boys are all i listen to. If they sold out then i would have no music to listen to when i want to be happy or when i feel like shit.

People who want to change the artist they listen to aren't really fans.
I think they just like the idea of being a fan.

I can't speak for everyone, but I know when some of us talk about the beastie boys collabing with other producers for a project we're hardly referring to those rinky-dink radio type beats. The bboys are great, but they're not the only talented heads in the game. And that's not to say that they aren't representing on their own, but fans are allowed to use their imagination.

If the beasties are really all you listen to though, you need to span out. They are really something, there's no denying that. But you'd be missing out on alotta really cool shit if you limit yourself, not to mention it will completely skew your perception of all other music and create a massive, illogical bias regarding everything that is or isn't beastie.

[jayjacobson16]

I've listened to other artists... but i only kind of liked them. It wasn't until i started listening to the Beastie Boys again that i actually got into music in the first place. It's not like I hate anything that's not Beastie Boys. but come on we live in an uncreative fake world nowadays. Especially the music industry. They are the only artists i liked as a little kid and the only ones i like now for a reason. Any other music i have listened to was from like 90s or 80s but eventually never stuck to me like the b-boys did.

Anyways my point was that it makes no sense when people talk shit about their awesome creative beats and want them to change it, just because they are so used to the uncreative boring depressing wannabe gangster beats played on the radio.

[Kid Presentable]

I've listened to other artists... but i only kind of liked them. It wasn't until i started listening to the Beastie Boys again that i actually got into music in the first place. It's not like I hate anything that's not Beastie Boys. but come on we live in an uncreative fake world nowadays. Especially the music industry. They are the only artists i liked as a little kid and the only ones i like now for a reason. Any other music i have listened to was from like 90s or 80s but eventually never stuck to me like the b-boys did.

Anyways my point was that it makes no sense when people talk shit about their awesome creative beats and want them to change it, just because they are so used to the uncreative boring depressing wannabe gangster beats played on the radio.

At least listen to artists the Beastie Boys cosign, Run DMC, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Santigold, Major Lazer, Neptunes, Tribe, The Roots, Talib, Les McCann, Lee Perry and countless others. Then one day someboday will take your opinion on awesome uncreative amazing boring exhilirating depressing wannabe gangster beats seriously.

[jayjacobson16]

At least listen to artists the Beastie Boys cosign, Run DMC, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Santigold, Major Lazer, Neptunes, Tribe, The Roots, Talib, Les McCann, Lee Perry and countless others. Then one day someboday will take your opinion on awesome uncreative amazing boring exhilirating depressing wannabe gangster beats seriously.


settle down... just forget my posts.... peace

[carlson.213]

I've listened to other artists... but i only kind of liked them. It wasn't until i started listening to the Beastie Boys again that i actually got into music in the first place. It's not like I hate anything that's not Beastie Boys. but come on we live in an uncreative fake world nowadays. Especially the music industry. They are the only artists i liked as a little kid and the only ones i like now for a reason. Any other music i have listened to was from like 90s or 80s but eventually never stuck to me like the b-boys did.

Anyways my point was that it makes no sense when people talk shit about their awesome creative beats and want them to change it, just because they are so used to the uncreative boring depressing wannabe gangster beats played on the radio.


many of the acts that are considered commercial hip hop have dope beats. They are on the radio for a reason. People like them for a reason. Most people that like radio hip hop do so because the beat is fresh. They dont give two shits about what the mc is rhyming about. you cant say that just because an act is featured on the radio that they arent hip hop or below what hip hop is. Maybe one aspect of their routine is fake or demeaning (lyrical content), but you cant ride that "its not hip hop" wave for everyone.

[jayjacobson16]

Well whatever... I hope you enjoy the music you listen to. I'm gonna listen to some beastie boys now. I apologise for insulting all fake commercial music and i hope it continues to influence violence and create 11 year old gangsters.

[pshabi]

The problem about some so called "Beastie Boys fans" is that they just want the beastie boys to sound like everyon and everything else.


To be honest, I've NEVER heard any bboy fan, "so-called" or legit, say that they wanted them to sound like everyone else.

And comparing Souljah Boy's beats to Wayne's beats is kinda silly. Even if you don't like him, Wayne has been on some hot ass beats. The bboys have even rhymed over some of them on tour.

[pshabi]

I apologise for insulting all fake commercial music and i hope it continues to influence violence and create 11 year old gangsters.

Music has kinda went away from violence and gangsterism lately. I feel like this is an old argument from someone just reaching for a cliche, but in reality, has no idea what they're talking about.

[Brother McDuff]

I've listened to other artists... but i only kind of liked them. It wasn't until i started listening to the Beastie Boys again that i actually got into music in the first place. It's not like I hate anything that's not Beastie Boys. but come on we live in an uncreative fake world nowadays. Especially the music industry. They are the only artists i liked as a little kid and the only ones i like now for a reason. Any other music i have listened to was from like 90s or 80s but eventually never stuck to me like the b-boys did.

Anyways my point was that it makes no sense when people talk shit about their awesome creative beats and want them to change it, just because they are so used to the uncreative boring depressing wannabe gangster beats played on the radio.


Look homey, the world is filled with enough great music that you would enjoy to last multiple lifetimes. Ya just gotta find it. Don't be one of those dudes who thinks the radio is the beginning and end of the modern musical spectrum, like unless it's pushed in your face it doesn't exist. Kid P said it, seek out artists that the bboys name drop, that's the best place to start. That is if you're interested at all in expanding your listening palette. Maybe all you really want or need is the bboy catalogue, and more power to you if that's the case, but it kinda sounds like an ignorant attitude (no offense) to project on other people who enjoy other artists, styles, and exercise wider musical tastes.

It's like when you may hear someone say the bboys are just whiney and obnoxious. You being a fan know that there's substance to their music and may think, "geez, this guy doesn't even know what he's talking about. if he only knew." Well, that demon faces both directions. You could easily be that guy to other people, bashing exceptional music/artists that you just may not understand. But that's not to say there's not far too much bullshit in the mainstream, or plenty of artists who don't deserve to be there; but there are also some immense talents and cutting edge artists with important things to say on the radio as well.

i hope i dont sound like im jumping on your back here, becuz i dont mean to. i just understand where your at, and it's a very dark place to be when there is so much incredible music to soak up past and present.

[jayjacobson16]

Music has kinda went away from violence and gangsterism lately. I feel like this is an old argument from someone just reaching for a cliche, but in reality, has no idea what they're talking about.


Look... who cares about my opinions, but there is fact. No matter where i go wannabe gangsters influenced by lil wayne and soulja boy and such will always be there. So thats pretty accurate about the violence thing. It's just not nearly as bad as before. but seriously i hate posting one thing on a post then tons of people responding to it. I've nearly ruined this post by posting my response to what that guy was saying about their new songs. So please i don't want to go several days talking about this stuff.

So yeah...

let's try not to go too far past topic...

[Kid Presentable]

Nah fuck it, let's. You listened to any Zeppelin? Clash? Biz Markie? Somebody help out with something Horovitz co-signs. Shit, Devo *slaps forehead*.

Seriously man, not even the Beastie Boys would think to only listen to one of their favourite bands. I'm not criticising you, don't overreact like I'm wearing a triple XL t-shirt and squirting a water pistol full of soup at you. You don't have to smoke camel shit to have a transcendental experience.

There was a time when these dudes were like big brothers to me, and put me onto all this other shit.

[carlson.213]

Nah fuck it, let's. You listened to any Zeppelin? Clash? Biz Markie? Somebody help out with something Horovitz co-signs. Shit, Devo *slaps forehead*.

Seriously man, not even the Beastie Boys would think to only listen to one of their favourite bands. I'm not criticising you, don't overreact like I'm wearing a triple XL t-shirt and squirting a water pistol full of soup at you. You don't have to smoke camel shit to have a transcendental experience.

There was a time when these dudes were like big brothers to me, and put me onto all this other shit.


very true. i can remember discovering new music through the beastie boys. who they collaborated with or sampled.

and other dude. just because a person wears different clothing to you doesnt make them a violent person or troublemaker. just because a guy decides to wear jordan sneakers or a ball cap doesnt make him a "gangster" or whatever. those types of people are known to adopt that style of dress but a lot of the crazy ones out there are wearing ironed button ups and loafers so dont get too comfortable. we all sorts of off topic up in here

[Nicodemus]

harumpheh!

[pm0ney]

I think so far this album is sick. Everything I've heard I liked.

[jayjacobson16]

I think so far this album is sick. Everything I've heard I liked.


Yes... I love this album so far and can't wait to hear even just another track.

[fonky pizza]

Nah fuck it, let's. You listened to any Zeppelin? Clash? Biz Markie? Somebody help out with something Horovitz co-signs. Shit, Devo *slaps forehead*.


THE SPECIALS
reggae ragga dance hall ska dub soul stuff ok stop(y)

[Nicodemus]

Sex time.