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YoungRemy

11-02-2009, 01:43 PM

Utley's flip to himself?
No other 2nd baseman in the league even gets to that ball.

I remember that play but was not referring to it specifically. was that last night or Saturday?

I am referring to the errors that didn't get recorded besides the one Ibanez committed in the first inning.

hitting/walking leadoff batsmen (ARod and Tex) and putting them on base is never a good thing either.

and letting Damon steal second and take third was the crucial error of the night that didn't end up in the box score...

I mean Lidge had two outs and nobody on. damon worked that at-bat like a champ. had they kept him on first we don't know how it would have ended.

NicRN77

11-02-2009, 01:46 PM

You might be able to BUY championships, but you'll never be able to buy class.

(y) Nice! Yankees fans are the most obnoxious fans around.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:11 PM

You might be able to BUY championships

Well, I guess Capitalism is a bitch! Move to China if you have a problem with it.

oh yeah, I guess I missed the past 10 WS the Yankees bought as well, talk about a weak argument! Boo fucking Hoo for you.

I can care about class when it comes to seeing you pissed off, HA!

Damon's steal of second and then third was a fucking hoot!

Here's some revisionist Phillies fan class for ya as well!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/11/02/2009-11-02_citizens_bank_park_.html?r=sports/baseball/yankees

PHILADELPHIA - The fans at Citizens Bank Park better be more careful with their money from now on.

Additional security was installed in the outfield for Sunday night's Game 4 after fans spent the early innings of Game 3 on Saturday throwing coins at Yankees outfielders Nick Swisher and Melky Cabrera.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/11/02/2009-11-02_citizens_bank_park_.html?r=sports/baseball/yankees#ixzz0VjKlfwH5

I'm sure the racist Phillies Fans yelling Melky want a taco (http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-phillies&tid=85005) are your interpretation of class!

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:15 PM

(y) Nice! Yankees fans are the most obnoxious fans around.

And Boston fans are angels (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red+sox+riot&search_type=&aq=f) :rolleyes:

I'm just being a pain in the ass cuz I know Robmoney is a Phillies fans

that's all folks!

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:17 PM

Speaking of being classy,

I've always thought at the end of the WS that both teams should line up and shake hands, ala the NHL.
Never been a fan of just letting the losing team just walk off the field and letting the winners just dog-pile.
It lacks sportsmanship.

And I'm sure if the Phillies would win and dogpile you will shake your head with shame

riiiiight

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 03:20 PM

I remember that play but was not referring to it specifically. was that last night or Saturday?

I am referring to the errors that didn't get recorded besides the one Ibanez committed in the first inning.

hitting/walking leadoff batsmen (ARod and Tex) and putting them on base is never a good thing either.

I'd rather hit ARod and put him on first, (and frustrate the hell out of him in the process) than give him the opportunity to hit. Also, fuck ARod.
I don't think Teixiera was done intentionally.

and letting Damon steal second and take third was the crucial error of the night that didn't end up in the box score...

They didn't let him steal really, he ran on a breaking pitch and therefore the throw was late getting there. Damon picked a great pitch to run on, a tip of the hat to him for it. Lidge should have covered 3rd. It's a freak play, the shift was on and he got caught out of position. Not the worst mistake in the world IMO.
It's not like he lobbed the ball 10' over the firstbaseman's head like Kazmir did in the ALCS.

I mean Lidge had two outs and nobody on. damon worked that at-bat like a champ. had they kept him on first we don't know how it would have ended.

He did what he was supposed to do. I give him credit for a great at-bat.
I've seen the Phils do the same thing numerous times.
Go watch Brett Myers at-bat against CC in last years' NLDS. Myers fouled off about 10 pitches until he got one to hit, and the fans cheered louder after every foul tip.
Knocked Sabathia out of the game.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:23 PM

P.S.

If anyone was reading the La Dodgers thread they would see that I have respect for the Phillies. This is an enjoyable series and a nail biter even if my team is winning. I have respect for the Phillies, they are a great team ( I've said a few times that it'd be nice if the Yanks bought a couple of their players)

This isn't a clean sweep, both teams are being challenged equally.

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 03:24 PM

And I'm sure if the Phillies would win and dogpile you will shake your head with shame

riiiiight

I'm not saying they shouldn't dogpile, or that it's unsportsmanlike.
I'd just like to see each team acknowledge each other after the fight is over.
It's something every kid learns from little league on up.

They can dogpile for a few minutes, gte up and lineup to shake hands.
And yeah, I'm saying that as a fan of the current reigning Champs.

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 03:31 PM

( I've said a few times that it'd be nice if the Yanks bought a couple of their players)

Yankees and their fans will never understand that this is exactly why people hate you and why you're ruining the sport.
There will be a cap of some sort within 5 years directly because of the Yankees inability to control themselves.

Their payroll is almost double that of the Phils, (Yankees $201m, Phils $113m) and the Yankees don't even have a 4th or 5th starter.
It's obscene.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:48 PM

It still doesn't buy World Series though....the Yanks haven't been since 2000 and their last pennant was in 2003.

I bet a cap won't happen, from 2008 to 2009 the Yankees payroll dropped while the Phillies payroll rose, so there are fluctuation and pricey players don't always deliver (believe me I've bitched about our expensive players not performing well)

Oh and yeah I have TONS of influence on how the Yanks handle their payroll, blame me for it please.

I have been a fan of the Yanks while they sucked ass and yeah I'm happy to see them in a World Series again and hopefully win this time.

YoungRemy

11-02-2009, 03:51 PM

so does Philly blame Lidge like Houston did?

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 03:56 PM

I have been a fan of the Yanks while they sucked ass

I have a Yankee fan friend IRL who uses this line all the time.
Cracks me right up.
You remained a fan those lean years, between '03 and now. LOLZ.
Before that you won the WS 4 out of 5 years in a row, '96, '98, '99, and 2000. And you won the pennant in 2001 and 2003.

Excuse me if I laugh at your idea of lean years.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 03:59 PM

More classy Phillies fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCe70d5SNE

oh shit, they're singing my song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThVmfRjzTXY&feature=related

fighting their own, classy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuJKa6bBNQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFDotWupac&feature=related

Nice to see the Police handling such scum (I'm sure some here agree!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzlRWf6VX7o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_QnWFjcWYA&feature=related

And the Worst fan ever ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbOqpSRRkB0&feature=related

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 04:02 PM

so does Philly blame Lidge like Houston did?

Lidge gets some blame, but he didn't flat out blow the series for them like he did in Houston.
He's had a shaky year. Everybody was almost expecting Lidge blow a crucial game in the playoffs this year.

I blame our lack of offense more than our pitching really. We've gone through these "feast or famine" type of streaks all year. We were feasting in the Rockies and Dodgers Series, we're going through a famine with the Yankees.
I've seen this team destroy better pitchers than what the Yanks are throwing at us too. They just aren't hitting.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 04:03 PM

I have a Yankee fan friend IRL who uses this line all the time.
Cracks me right up.
You remained a fan those lean years, between '03 and now. LOLZ.
Before that you won the WS 4 out of 5 years in a row, '96, '98, '99, and 2000. And you won the pennant in 2001 and 2003.

Excuse me if I laugh at your idea of lean years.

Actually I was referring to the 80s when I was getting into baseball as a kid (playing, collecting cards, watching games)....do you see any WS wins then? You have no idea how horribly taunted I was for the better part of that decade.

I Hate You!

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 04:09 PM

I've seen this team destroy better pitchers than what the Yanks are throwing at us too. They just aren't hitting.

This is what I'm saying.....our pitching isn't dominating, your hitters are having a hard time delivering (same with ours). In fact I'm convinced the Phillies are out pitching us....we've had some loOoOong innings on defense.

Even our hitters are suffering. This isn't a slamming series, the small plays are winning it.

Burnout18

11-02-2009, 04:55 PM

Johnny fucking Damon saved the yankees last night.

I hope they win tonight, but if they come back to the Bronx and win it, it will be a little bit sweeter.

I guess unless if someone goes off tonight, Rivera maybe gets the MVP. Again.

RobMoney$

11-02-2009, 04:55 PM

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 06:39 PM

hmmm, I don't know if the Yanks would want to mire a win with some silly controversial move. Even though I do believe many fans would like to see this
(I wanted to see it lastnight but now I'm over it)

I have a feeling they want to get in and get out, keep it business as usual. Tonight will not come easy for either team.

Well, if they do tap Utley's ass.....don't complain

cj hood

11-02-2009, 06:53 PM

Prediction for tonight.

IF the Yanks are ahead and in control of the game in the later innings, Utley's getting plunked.

Payback for Arod getting plunked 3 times.
I can see Burnett running a fastball in on him.
Benches could clear if it happens.

i'm thinking just the opposite...if the phillies are losing they should plug arod again for shits and giggles...

yeahwho

11-02-2009, 07:18 PM

The double warning didn't make much sense last night but after reading this I can see why they did warn both teams.

I was shocked the benches didn't clear last night.

Phillies will win tonight

Myu-to

11-02-2009, 08:45 PM

Oh, I didn't realize you were one of those typical obnoxious Yankees fans.
Way to keep it classy. (y)

You might be able to BUY championships, but you'll never be able to buy class.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

Someone from Philly talking about class.

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 08:56 PM

Alanis Morissette! A Canadian? Our National Anthem!?

Those evil Socialist Phillies! I hate them and their Healthcare!

hehehe

play ball!

kaiser soze

11-02-2009, 09:27 PM

you guys guessed wrong

Victorino "takes one for the team" ehem pussy - shit I hit a foul ball before with my hand and didn't get to take a base, talk about boo hoo.

and Utley gets his wimpy ass home

looks like we have a ball game

cj hood

11-02-2009, 11:51 PM

see you on wednesday asshats!!!

YoungRemy

11-02-2009, 11:52 PM

Utley has 5 Home Runs in less than 5 complete games. He's tied Reggie Jackson's World Series Record and has two more games (or 1?) to set the record.

let us not forget the 2004 Yankees

kaiser soze

11-03-2009, 12:00 AM

Oh well, we planned and played poorly - mostly hitting which I give Lee credit for kicking our asses. Why do we continue to pitch to Utley? HP Ump squeezing our pitchers. Yanks looked lax prior to the game, Phillies had no choice but to win.

This could go back to the Bronx and we can only hope for an inaugural win for Petitte in the new Stadium.

Like I said, this is a series both teams are working for, were being owned this game

oh, Arod just hit two run double, most excellent!

rally cap time!

p.s.

This Ump is calling two different strike zones.....a foot outside is now a strike, right

RobMoney$

11-03-2009, 02:22 AM

Alls I know is,
IT'S ABOUT TIME SOME PEOPLE SHOWED CLIFF LEE AND THE REST OF THE REIGNING CHAMPS SOME GOD-DAMN RESPECT AROUND HERE.

Girardi will make sure this thing goes 7. The decision to pitch everyone on 3 days rest could turn out to be the stupidest move he ever made.
Pretty sure Chad Gaudin could have went 3 innings tonight.
I mean Imagine, $201m and you don't have a 4th starter.

Also,
This goes out to the city that never sleeps, AND THE BALL TEAM THAT LOST! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEt8MYZ_x-E)

Burnout18

11-03-2009, 10:41 AM

I mean Imagine, $201m and you don't have a 4th starter.

You Cannot buy championships.

jabumbo

11-03-2009, 11:31 AM

all i ever ask for is for my team to buy a chance at making the playoffs :rolleyes:

RobMoney$

11-03-2009, 02:28 PM

I'm soo stealing that line, Jabumbo.

kaiser soze

11-04-2009, 10:12 PM

back for some dodgeball I see

U drill
We Thrill

the Phillies thank the ump!

jabumbo

11-04-2009, 10:28 PM

stealing it for what? you want the sixers to bring back iverson?

cj hood

11-04-2009, 10:46 PM

you can't leave runners stranded...no matter how good or bad your pitcher is....WTF!

kaiser soze

11-04-2009, 11:06 PM

oh look more dodge ball!

I guess that's the only way Arod will get on base :rolleyes:

Matsui for MVP

nah nah nah nah.....

ToucanSpam

11-05-2009, 12:56 AM

How boring...

Both these teams suck.

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 01:00 AM

NY YANKEES 2009 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 01:16 AM

Now that I got that out

great series Phillies, it was going to be well earned by both teams

Burnout18

11-05-2009, 01:28 AM

AWESOME

monkey

11-05-2009, 01:29 AM

parade!

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 03:04 AM

Hahahaa. I'm soo bitter right now.

Fuck the Yankees and all thier bandwagon jumping fans. The easiest thing in sports is to be a Yankees fan. I had respect for the Rays last year. I have none for this yankees team. because they're not a team, they're just a bunch of steroid addicted hired mercenaries. I'd rather lose for 30 years with a team like the Phillies than win one time with a team of hired mercenaries. All you yankee fans listen and listen good. Gehrig, Ruth, Mantle and Dimaggio are all dead. You fuckin bought Babe Ruth too. The late 90's titles are all tainted with the Roids You all took on top of all the money you spend. And this yr you got lucky. We are better then you and we know it. O and this yr is tainted to. A Rod is a roider also. We'll be back. We have at least 3 more WS appearences to come with this team.
Enjoy your win, frauds.

ps. a-fraud still did steroids.

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 03:06 AM

How boring...

Both these teams suck.

the price is wrong bitch. only one of those teams sucks. and anyway you suck big hairy dong anyway.

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 03:08 AM

I'm driving to ny tommorrow just so i can urinate on yankee stadium

Bob

11-05-2009, 03:14 AM

you're getting pretty angry about baseball right now man, calm down

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 03:16 AM

ahhaaaa. fuck that. the yankee sucks and everyone knows it.

cj hood

11-05-2009, 08:25 AM

BREAKING NEWS: The Yankees just bought Chase Utley, Cliff Lee, the Dodgers AAA team & Babe Ruth's corpse (in case he comes back to life) for $345.5 billion.......

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 10:42 AM

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 10:42 AM

BREAKING NEWS: The Yankees just bought Chase Utley, Cliff Lee, the Dodgers AAA team & Babe Ruth's corpse (in case he comes back to life) for $345.5 billion.......

At least the owners know how much good players are worth

don't worry, I'm sure Utley and Lee won't stick around much longer if the price isn't right

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 11:01 AM

This goes out to the city that never sleeps, AND THE BALL TEAM THAT WON!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEt8MYZ_x-E)

well thanks!

hugs

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 12:31 PM

LOL Damn I was trashed last night.

mickill

11-05-2009, 12:39 PM

YEEAHH AWWWRRRIGHT YANKS! WE WON!!!! I KNEW WE WOULD!!

Ty Webb

11-05-2009, 01:21 PM

FUCK SANTA CLAUS

jabumbo

11-05-2009, 02:07 PM

how the hell does a DH get the MVP?

i mean sure, he smacked the ball, but fuck that shit!

Burnout18

11-05-2009, 02:34 PM

how the hell does a DH get the MVP?

i mean sure, he smacked the ball, but fuck that shit!

Good Question.

I think Rivera, Pettitte and Damon had a shot going into the game. Pettitte didnt pitch good enough to get MVP and Rivera was solid but 2 games he pitched weren't even save situations. Damon had a shot but did nothing last night because of his injury. Matsui had one monster night, a pinch hit home run and a home run that broke the tie in game 2.

Yes it is odd that a guy who barely played three games is the most valuable, but oh well.

oh yea, I forgot how much the rest of the world hates the yankees.

YoungRemy

11-05-2009, 03:17 PM

Dear A-Rod,

There's no crying in Baseball !!!!!!!

b i o n i c

11-05-2009, 03:31 PM

LOLZ @ anyone who thought the phillies had a chance(y)

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 03:53 PM

24 hours ago you were all scured the Phils were gonna come back.
Do me the honor of at least faking some gratuitous sportsmanship.

Yankees were the better team. Hats off to them.
I still think it's bullshit that you guys field an all-star team tho.

Johnny Damon is a hired gun
Mark Teixeira is a hired gun
Alex Rodriguez is a hired gun and uses steroids
Hideki Matsui is a hired gun
CC Sabathia is a hired gun
AJ Burnett is a hired gun.

That's your 2,3,4, and 6 hitters and your #1 & #2 pitchers.
It's laughable that anyone can seriously call themselves a fan of that team.
When you spend $450million dollars on three human beings to play baseball for your team, you're SUPPOSED to win.

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 04:01 PM

At least the owners know how much good players are worth

don't worry, I'm sure Utley and Lee won't stick around much longer if the price isn't right

Ladies & Gentlemen,...I give you the New York Yankees!

b i o n i c

11-05-2009, 04:03 PM

24 hours ago you were all scured the Phils were gonna come back.
Do me the honor of at least faking some gratuitous sportsmanship.

NEVAAAAAAAR

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 04:08 PM

Talk about lack of class Rob, you are just glowing with it :rolleyes:

And Lee came for free and from your farm team?

Romero's roid use and assault of a fan?

Martinez hitting old men?

Your Payroll rose, ours dropped

Show me champions who play for free and I'll give you a fucking cookie

but for now, STFU YOU LOST

You can go watch VICK play now, he's class!

Bob

11-05-2009, 04:11 PM

SO MAD ABOUT BASEBALL

b i o n i c

11-05-2009, 04:15 PM

SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHahahahHAHahaHAHAHAhahah

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 04:40 PM

Talk about lack of class Rob, you are just glowing with it :rolleyes:

And Lee came for free and from your farm team?

No, but we did trade 4 top prospects from our farm team for him. We didn't just BUY him. So yeah, in a way our farm did produce Lee.

Romero's roid use and assault of a fan?

Get it straight, Romero didn't use roids, he used 5 hour energy. WOW WEE!

Martinez hitting old men?

Martinez could have done a lot worse to Zimmer if he wanted to. Zimmer apologized to Pedro after and said he was the one who was out of line.

Your Payroll rose, ours dropped

and still, you were almost twice as high as any other team in the league.
Obscene is the only word to accuratley describe it, and it's even more hilarious that you want some sort of credit for lowering it.

Show me champions who play for free and I'll give you a fucking cookie

Look at last year. You spent 230 million for absolutely no reason at all. You lost the division to a team who's payroll was something like $30 mil.
Who are you going to buy this year, Matt Holliday? Congratulate yourselves on a job well done for that.

but for now, STFU YOU LOST

You can go watch VICK play now, he's class!

BTW, I doubt Utley and Lee are going anywhere. They will be paid what they are worth from the Phillies. They also LOVE it here, both of them.
Not everyone is for sale.
They both have more integrity in their little pinky than the entire city of NY combined.

Also, fuck Michael Vick, Andy Reid, and Donovan McFraud. The day they're all off of my team can't come soon enough.

b i o n i c

11-05-2009, 07:06 PM

ps: i couldnt care less who won the world series, justing being a sportsman(y)

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 07:16 PM

SO MAD ABOUT BASEBALL

Hey, I watch baseball every night of the week.
I grew up playing all the way until HS.
My Grandfather coached and taught me how to play.
I handed the tradition down to my kids by coaching and teaching them how to play.
Every one of us have been diehard fans of the Phillies.
I have invested a lot of emotion into this team throughout my life.

I don't know if you have anything in your life that your entire family shares in common like that, but yeah, I don't see why it's so funny that I'm dissappointed that my/OUR team lost to a bunch of cheaters?

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 08:37 PM

Rob you can bitch all you want but it won't change the fact that Joe Girardi is a hero on the field and off

NY Yankees manager helps woman in car wreck hours after clinching World Series title

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/11/ny_yankees_manager_helps_woman.html

As if earning the distinction of managing a team to a World Series victory wasn't enough, Yankees manager Joe Girardi acted as a Good Samaritan on Thursday morning.

Hours after guiding the Yankees to a World Series title, Girardi came to the aid of a 27-year-old woman involved in a car crash on the Cross County Parkway in Westchester County, N.Y.

Talk about Class (y)

cj hood

11-05-2009, 08:42 PM

Hey, I watch baseball every night of the week.
I grew up playing all the way until HS.
My Grandfather coached and taught me how to play.
I handed the tradition down to my kids by coaching and teaching them how to play.
Every one of us have been diehard fans of the Phillies.
I have invested a lot of emotion into this team throughout my life.

I don't know if you have anything in your life that your entire family shares in common like that, but yeah, I don't see why it's so funny that I'm dissappointed that my/OUR team lost to a bunch of cheaters?

i have a similar background and also really bummed about the Phillies loss....i grew up watching them on WTAF back in the diz-ay with HK on the mic....

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 08:59 PM

It isn't the end of the world guys

We all love the game above and beyond the majors, I played (right field to left to third to second base) and plan on teaching and hopefully coaching my son as well. I wasn't lucky enough to have a major league team in my hometown but spent many days at War Memorial Stadium (http://www.buffalohistoryworks.com/photograph/photographs/war-memorial-2.jpg) burning the shit out of my knees while I cheered on my losing Buffalo Bisons. We all love baseball, no need to be so fucking hateful about it.

p.s.

I still have a wicked side arm for my age (y)

Bob

11-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Hey, I watch baseball every night of the week.
I grew up playing all the way until HS.
My Grandfather coached and taught me how to play.
I handed the tradition down to my kids by coaching and teaching them how to play.
Every one of us have been diehard fans of the Phillies.
I have invested a lot of emotion into this team throughout my life.

I don't know if you have anything in your life that your entire family shares in common like that, but yeah, I don't see why it's so funny that I'm dissappointed that my/OUR team lost to a bunch of cheaters?

you really like the phillies and you're disappointed that they lost, i get that. i just don't understand how people (not you specifically) can get so angry about it and start getting in fights or heated arguments with other people just because a team that one guy likes beat a team that another guy likes. it's a game, a game that they aren't even playing, calm down

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 09:28 PM

Rob you can bitch all you want but it won't change the fact that Joe Girardi is a hero on the field and off

NY Yankees manager helps woman in car wreck hours after clinching World Series title

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/11/ny_yankees_manager_helps_woman.html

Talk about Class (y)

Yeah, that's great. Ever the glory hound, just like Jeter.
Curious how every major media outlet in the City of NY gets a story like that, isn't it?
I mean it says he didn't even stick around for a statement. He jetted right away.

So is it classy that he said he was gonna change his number to 28 next year for 28 titles for the Yankees?
That's the Yankee arrogance that the rest of the baseball world hates you for.

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 09:29 PM

you really like the phillies and you're disappointed that they lost, i get that. i just don't understand how people (not you specifically) can get so angry about it and start getting in fights or heated arguments with other people just because a team that one guy likes beat a team that another guy likes. it's a game, a game that they aren't even playing, calm down

BUT IT"S LIKE THE CATALINA WINE MIXER, ONLY BIGGER BRO!

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 09:33 PM

Yeah, that's great. Ever the glory hound, just like Jeter.
So is it classy that he said he was gonna change his number to 28 next year for 28 titles for the Yankees?
That's the Yankee arrogance that the rest of the baseball world hates you for.

yeah Phillies fan or not, you're just a dick

RobMoney$

11-05-2009, 09:36 PM

I guess that means you have no retort for that then?

Girardi wearing 28 signifying the WS title he has yet to win, is by far one of the biggest jack-off moves I've ever heard of in sports.

Seriously tho, do you really think Girardi's a good manager?
He's an average manager at best. Damon and Matsui bailed his ass out of completely mismanaging his pitching staff. The guy you spent $161 million dollars on to be your ace got you exactly zero wins because he was overused, being pitched on 3 days rest. Same with the other guy you paid $81 million, AJ Burnett.

The easiest baseball managing job in the league is the Yankees.
All you have to do is decide which multi-million dollar player you're going to play next.

kaiser soze

11-05-2009, 09:50 PM

It's all about money if it's not YOUR Team

seriously Rob, I don't give a shit about the money, I was a fan during the era the Yanks weren't the hottest ticket in town and it stuck with me. I don't see dollar signs when I watch Baseball, Hockey, or Football...I see a team I've grown to like through wins or losses. You can keep it political all you want

You can be cruel because your team lost, you can tell me how much the World hates me and my fellow fans and players, but honestly rob it just makes you look like a poor loser. I don't care what you think about the Yanks what I do care is that you just don't let up and you're cruelty. I can celebrate my teams win and you can be upset about your teams loss, but stop attacking.

If you have a problem with how the MLB handles their payrolls/salary caps and what not take it up with them, don't be a bitch about it with me.

your own arrogance blinds you

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 01:42 AM

I was a fan during the era the Yanks weren't the hottest ticket in town and it stuck with me. I don't see dollar signs when I watch Baseball, Hockey, or Football...I see a team I've grown to like through wins or losses. You can keep it political all you want

When was this when "the Yanks weren't the hottest ticket in town"?
I'm calling bullshit on this because I hear this excuse from every Yankees fan no matter how old they are. I hear it from guys that are 60yrs old, down to their 20's.
You're all full of it.

I think you're around 25-30yrs old, right?
So let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're 30, and let's say you became a fan as young as 5yrs old, and you've been a fan ever since.
That would mean you became a fan around 1984.
At that point in time, the Yankees were still the winningest team of all time. They still had the most WS victories. Steinbrenner's owned the team since 1973 and has been on an all out spending spree ever since. Long before you were ever born.

I mean, why the Yankees? What made them stand out from the other teams being you didn't have a pro team in your hometown?
Why not the Blue Jays? You're actually geographically closer to Toronto than NYC.
Why not the Mets?
Why not the stinkin KC Royals, or the Pittsburgh Pirates, or any other team in the league?
Why not the Philadelphia Phillies for that matter?

I'll tell you why.
YOU CHOSE THE YANKEES BECAUSE THEY WON THE MOST, THEREFORE IT WAS THE EASIEST TEAM TO ROOT FOR.
You want to be associated with a winner.
I'm not saying it's wrong, I understand it.
But please spare me the excuse of "I've been a fan since they were nothing", because they've NEVER been nothing your entire life.
They've been buying players since 1919 when they BOUGHT Babe Ruth from the Red Sox so the Sox owner could produce a Broadway show, all the way up until this year when they paid 3 human beings half a billion to come to your team.
It's like being in a car race and everyone has a Toyota and one guy has a Ferrari. And when the guy with the Farrari wins he sprays champagne in the face of the Toyota drivers and congratulates himself being able to buy himself an unfair competitive advantage.
It sucks. And the Yankees suck. And so do all of their fans.

kaiser soze

11-06-2009, 07:08 AM

27 baby, That's your Winner for you!

Now go fucking cry somewhere else, this thread is getting quite soggy

you are so toxic

Burnout18

11-06-2009, 10:25 AM

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH going with the built in excuse about the payroll, are we?

Lets see the two SP's that played the most were cliff lee and pedro martinez... guns for hire if you will. Brad Lidge and Raul Ibanez were bought by your little theory too. I mean how do you root for these guns for hire?!!?

And before you cry about your farm system being traded away, don't forget guys who came through from the yankee farm system like carlos pena and alfonso soriano were all stars for other teams. Just two off the top of me head....

The yankees payroll was less than it was last year, while the phillies payroll increased? what happened there? did philly try to buy thier way back into the postseason? nahhhh.... they aren't a new york team soo uh uh uh they did it the right way.

The mets and cubs have the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls in the mlb... they are both nl teams. Yet the phillies are above and beyond the best team in the nl, especially now with cliff lee. Pay roll means shit. Thats why the yankees do not win it every year. Thats why they missed the playoffs last year. Thats why teams like the Rockies and Rays can win thier division and make the playoffs/world series.

Stop with the typical jealous philly attitude.... its the same shit you displayed when the giants beat the patriots and you had to jump in to say giants weren't the best team. We get it. You don't like New York.

jabumbo

11-06-2009, 10:48 AM

BASEBALL IS DYING IN AMERICA

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 01:35 PM

Lets see the two SP's that played the most were cliff lee and pedro martinez... guns for hire if you will. Brad Lidge and Raul Ibanez were bought by your little theory too. I mean how do you root for these guns for hire?!!?

You're an idiot.

1. Cliff Lee - We traded 4 top prospects from our minor leagues for the opportunity to have him for a year and a half. After next year he could leave as a FA.

2. Pedro Martinez - He was sitting at home until August doing nothing. Every team in the league said they had absolutely no interest in him, that he was finished and had nothing left. Pretty ballsy move for a defending world champ and currently leading their division with a chance to make another run to take. The Mets told hiim they had no interest in even working him out. In other words, we picked him up off the scrap heap. We didn't go out and buy him for $161 million dollars.

3. Brad Lidge - They couldn't get the guy out of Houston fast enough. He blew the WS for them. We gave them Michael Bourn for the opportunity to have him for a year, then we had to resign him. Michael Bourn is their current leadoff hitter and starting CF. He's an everyday player and borderline All-Star. He led the NL with 61 stolen bases.

4. Raul Ibanez - Yes, we bought him. He was a high priced FA. You got this one correct. BUT, we chose to let Pat Burrell leave. Yeah, I know Pat Burrell sucks, but remember he had just performed pretty well for us and helped us win a WS title. So letting him walk for Ibanez was a mildly controversial decision in Philly. And let's be honest, Raul Ibanez is no 8yr, $180 million dollar player like your team buys not just one, but TWO of. CC & Teixiera.

Phuck the Yankees. Ridiculing your team for being the obnoxious losers that they are makes me feel better.

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 01:37 PM

BASEBALL IS DYING IN AMERICA

It's alive & well here in Philly, as you yourself has witnessed!

Burnout18

11-06-2009, 02:29 PM

So its OK for the phillies to trade prospects for AL cy young winner cliff lee but not OK for the yankees to trade all star alfonso soriano for all star alex rodriguez.

Really? Really? reaaaaaaaaaally?

Dude good job, that was great spin. You should be in politics.

And i see you must agree with me on my points about payroll not mattering when it comes to the mets and cubs lack of success while the rockies and rays can get to the WS.

Hey know where i was today? the parade! the Yankee Parade! Should i post my pics on the photos section?

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 02:41 PM

The Cubs and Mets both spent around $130 mil.
The Yankees spent $201 MILLION!!!

You're lapping the field, bro.

BTW, I hope you had a ball at your parade while everyone else just laughs at your ever increasing desperation to purchase titles.

You won a Toyota race in a Ferrari.
How wonderful.

Burnout18

11-06-2009, 03:17 PM

here is another fun stat:

The Yankees have 11 players on the World Series roster from their farm system, the Phillies have 8.

I counted the phillies players myself, can you tell me if i am wrong?

cj hood

11-06-2009, 03:37 PM

the phillies salary was $130 million for 2009....

breaking news: phillies just exercised the $9million option on Lee....(not $161 million, but $9)

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 05:04 PM

here is another fun stat:

The Yankees have 11 players on the World Series roster from their farm system, the Phillies have 8.

I counted the phillies players myself, can you tell me if i am wrong?

Even more pathetic that their payroll is as high as it is then.

Here's a fun stat for you.
Your steroid addicted 3rd baseman makes more money then the entire Pittsburgh Pirates team.

Am I wrong?

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 05:15 PM

the phillies salary was $130 million for 2009....

breaking news: phillies just exercised the $9million option on Lee....(not $161 million, but $9)

The playoff roster totaled $113m.
That $130m included people like Geoff Jenkins and Adam Eaton who we cut in the spring and we bought out their contracts. Also Jamie Moyer & JC Romero who were injured and not on the playoff roster.
It's not that we're cheap, we spend as much as anyone.
Well, almost anyone. :rolleyes:

There's spending, and then there's insanity to the point that it's an unfair advantage.

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 05:34 PM

Phillies have declined to pickup Brett Myers option making him a FA.

I'm guessing they will decline starting 3rd baseman Pedro Feliz's $5 million dollar option too. They'll pocket the money and bring him back for less as a FA, or go in another direction.
If we were the Yankees, we'd bring him back for $10mil a year because "you gotta pay to keep your players if you wanna be a champion".

cj hood

11-06-2009, 08:14 PM

i think we should pay Feliz....f' myers....

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 08:19 PM

I'd rather try to get Mark DeRosa.

Burnout18

11-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Even more pathetic that their payroll is as high as it is then.

Here's a fun stat for you.
Your steroid addicted 3rd baseman makes more money then the entire Pittsburgh Pirates team.

Am I wrong?

Yes you are wrong. Alex made (base) 32 million this year. The Pirates payroll at the start of 09 was 48.6 million. Arod makes 32 million this year and next year. That number decreases to 20 million by 2017.

http://baseball.about.com/od/newsrumors/a/09teamsalaries.htm

Do not forget it was the texas rangers that set the precedent with the 200+ mil contract, imagine if it was the new york yankees...

BTW i read you fell for the JC romero lie about how he picked up shit from GNC? oh my god what a biased individual you are. I believe he did get stuff from gnc, but stuff on the side too, manny-style. That Roger Clemens-like excuse was nice but not believable..... Anyways what a stain on that 08 championship team, I thought baseball had it's first steroid free championship, i guess not :-(

Burnout18

11-06-2009, 08:56 PM

So far all i got from today:

1) Trading the farm for 1 cy young pitcher= perfectly ok; trading an all-star for an allstar creates a gun for hire. OHHHHKAY;)

2) Your spending theory is shot to shit when i bring up teams like the Rockies and Rays. Your analogies are boring for the most part but I would like you to explain the ferrari in the toyota race. The ferrari does not win every race, in fact it only won 5 in my lifetime....ready? go.

3) Yankees had more home grown farm players than the phillies, but you asked us how we are supposed to root for the "gun for hire" team? Ask yourself.

Come on,,, why don't you just come out and say it; If the phillies lost you already had the built in excuse ready to go. Honestly if the yankees rattled off 15 of the next 17 championships then yes, maybe payroll is a distinct advantage. But for the first time in 9 years they win and you blame the one thing they had for the past 9 years? Man get the fuck out with that bullshit. WAHHHHHHHHHHH

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 11:05 PM

I've already shot down everyone of those "questions".
Multiple times.
You'll never get it. I'm not going to keep typing the same facts over and over just for you to ignore them.
Your team spends 200m, and the next team is spending 130m on down, but it's a fair competition. (y) I hear you loud and clear, bro.

The fact of the matter is that the Yankees have no choice but to outspend the entire league by almost double.
As I've already proved with kaiser, all Yankees fans are as fair-weather as they come.
They entire reason ANYONE becomes a fan of the Yankees is because of the Championships. If it wasn't, you'd be a Mets fan.

If the Yankees spent inline with the rest of the league and competed fairly, they'd only win once in a while too, and all the bandwagon fans would not even pay attention anymore.
There are too many other distractions in NYC for anyone to stick by a losing team faithfully.
They'd have to move to California the same way the Dodgers and the Giants did.

And as for the Arod vs Pirates FACT,
I'm talking about the Pirates payroll at the end of the year, not the begining.
Yes, the Pirates started out with a 45m. payroll, and then they had TO SELL OFF THEIR BEST PLAYERS, Nate McClouth and Adam Larouche, BECAUSE THEY COULDN"T AFFORD TO KEEP THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN"T COMPETE WITH THE 'HAVES' OF THE LEAGUE.

Get it yet?
Thanks for making my point for me.

monkey

11-06-2009, 11:08 PM

i didnt really want to get in on this stupid back and forth about the yankees and whether or not their fans are true fans or not... but seriously, there are some seriously faulty arguments being thrown around.

lets start with this: i am a yankees fan. have been since 1992. that was the year i arrived in canada, and the blue jays went to the world series, and i had never seen baseball before 1992, but that year, i watched it with my dad. we both learned it. and the yankees were the team that wore those dapper pinstripes, and they were from the city we were going to live in. so they were fucking magical to 10 year old me. i started playing softball. i had NO coordination, and that giant fucking ball bruised the fuck out of my body. (oh and the yankees kinda sucked in 92. i mean, not terribly, but not winners. not like the blue jays frenzy that swept toronto. and i was living there during that time! mattingly... i remember mattingly...)

cut to the summer before my freshman year of high school - 1996. my best friend's dad took us to see the yankees that summer. i fell into deep teenage lust with derek jeter. i watched/listened every game after that, listening to it on the radio because i wasn't allowed to watch tv all that much. the 96 series was just about the most exciting thing that had happened in our silly little teenaged lives. it was the most normal and american thing about me at the time, when i was still mostly an immigrant.

after that, yes, i rooted hard, and they were an amazing team in the late 90's. holy shit, they were on fire. i could have found another team to root for, i couldve rooted for the mets, but they were a joke! i had pledged my allegiance to the yankees already, how the fuck was i supposed to know it wasnt cool cause they spent a lot of money?!!

as a bit of tmi - the first time my first bf and i did it, it was while watching a yankees game...

now, i KNOW im not the only one with a long story about how they became a fan. nearly everyone i know that's a fan has their own. every fan of nearly every sport has a story about how they came to root for the team they root for. so why is it so wrong for the yankees fans to like the yankees? not only that, but every SINGLE team, when they're doing particularly well, get fair weather fans. there is no way in hell you can deny that. maybe the yankees have more fair weather fans? maybe. it's a big fucking city and bigger fucking state, not to mention the reputation they've garnered. but it's not impossible to consider that there are fans who are committed to being fans, all the time. and the whole money thing, about buying a team... if the point was not to buy the best team possible, then the MLB should have set up some regulations. baseball, like most other sports, is a business. and in business, it takes money to make money. but i dont think that just because they pay some of the members of the yankees insane amounts of money that they're any less committed to being a yankee than any other guy playing for any other team for any regular chunk of change. this is the same in nearly every sport i know where great players are compensated handsomely. and it's true in sports where you're not compensated at all! a person will play hard and fight for the team they're playing because that's proper sportsmanship.

thasit.

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 11:17 PM

I would like you to explain the ferrari in the toyota race. The ferrari does not win every race, in fact it only won 5 in my lifetime....ready? go.

YOUR 'CAR' IS FAR AND AWAY MORE EXPENSIVE AND FAR AND AWAY FASTER THAN EVERYONE ELSES 'CAR'.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WIN THE RACE EVERYTIME WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A CLEAR ADVANTAGE.

It's hilarious to me that you only have 27 titles.

It's like Lebron James playing a bunch of 11 & 12yo. kids. in basketball and Bron-Bron throwing himself a parade and singing "NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOOOOOOODBYE" when he wins.
That's how obnoxious this thread is.

RobMoney$

11-06-2009, 11:33 PM

i could have found another team to root for, i couldve rooted for the mets, but they were a joke!

THIS.

Ask yourself this tho, Monkey...
Why do you think your father gravitated towards the Yankees over the Blue Jays at that point in time.
Why not the Mets either? They were from the same city you were going to be moving to.
Your Dad wasn't rooting for that Yankees team of 1992.
I'm guessing he was drawn to the team of Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Reggie Jackson, and all the rest.

I'm not trying to debate that you've paid whatever dues while being a fan, but you've gotta admit I have a point about rooting for an established winner.

monkey

11-06-2009, 11:51 PM

THIS.

Ask yourself this tho, Monkey...
Why do you think your father gravitated towards the Yankees over the Blue Jays at that point in time.
Why not the Mets either? They were from the same city you were going to be moving to.
Your Dad wasn't rooting for that Yankees team of 1992.
I'm guessing he was drawn to the team of Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Reggie Jackson, and all the rest.

I'm not trying to debate that you've paid whatever dues while being a fan, but you've gotta admit I have a point about rooting for an established winner.

my father didnt gravitate towards the yankees. he gravitated towards baseball. he watched them all, rooted for none. maybe the blue jays, if anyone. I remember him being really happy when the blue jays won the series. I gravitated towards the yankees with my very own little brain. I actually taught my dad about yankees history, after reading every (easy) book on the subject i could find in my local library during the summer of 1993. (reading is how i learned english, i spent 1993 reading.)
you have to realize that there are people who just connect to a team at some point for some reason. i had no clue the mets were from ny until that time of reading. my dad took us to our first game that summer, mets 1993. it was a fun game. i had no allegience to the mets though, i dont know why they just didnt seem as exciting. that happens. to some people it happens through childhood, to some it happens randomly as they grow up, some people dont find that until they're older. fans are fans, and it's silly to debate the merits of who's a better, more dedicated fan. there's always someone with the biggest dick, but that doesn't mean that the team doesn't mean something to someone in their own way.

kaiser soze

11-07-2009, 11:37 AM

Don't even bother monkey, Robmoney is so far up his ass it won't matter what you tell him. For god's sake he thinks I was "jumping on the bandwagon" at age 5. I already told him I loved the game beyond the MLB.

Anyways, he's a sore loser to say the least. Not a single other Phillies fan has acted this way here, so honestly it's not about the Yankees it's about Robmoney$. He has already said he hates NY, the Yankees, and their fans...why he carries on in our thread is beyond me, he can easily opt not to post in it.

So with that said

World Fucking Champions!

p.s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DQs3nSAYY0&feature=related

RobMoney$

11-07-2009, 11:56 AM

Hey, enjoy your PURCHASED win.
I've just tried to explain how the rest of the entire baseball world views the situation with the Yankees.

Congrats Lebron, congrats Ferrari racecar driver, congrats NY Yankees, you really earned it. (y)

Also, I never said I hated NYC. I love that place. I go there several times a year.

pshabi

11-07-2009, 12:00 PM

This thread is Special Olympics. Nice one, guys.

Burnout18

11-07-2009, 02:24 PM

YOUR 'CAR' IS FAR AND AWAY MORE EXPENSIVE AND FAR AND AWAY FASTER THAN EVERYONE ELSES 'CAR'.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WIN THE RACE EVERYTIME WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A CLEAR ADVANTAGE.

It's hilarious to me that you only have 27 titles.

It's like Lebron James playing a bunch of 11 & 12yo. kids. in basketball and Bron-Bron throwing himself a parade and singing "NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOOOOOOODBYE" when he wins.
That's how obnoxious this thread is.

yet you failed to acknowledge that the "toyota cars" win the majority of races or "11 or 12" win the majority of games. Seriously you failed; another shit, dishonest analogy. Its so sad you had the excuse all ready to go too. At least I like how at least you gave up that gun for hire bullshit once i pointed out to you, that thats how the majority of teams run, including the phillies.

When you go into "new york fans are bandwagon fans" its over.... we get it! We know what this is all about. You don't like the new york teams/fans. It comes across like you are jealous or bitter about something else, and to be honest i wouldn't even popped in if you werent the same shithead who had to downplay the giants super bowl win.

Tell me, whats more difficult: rooting for perennial losers; or knowing that your city's only potential dynasty was crushed by a new york team?

b i o n i c

11-07-2009, 02:37 PM

so mad about baseball

cubsfirstplace

11-07-2009, 02:53 PM

i'm just happy the yankees won't be getting cliff lee next year

RobMoney$

11-07-2009, 04:03 PM

yet you failed to acknowledge that the "toyota cars" win the majority of races or "11 or 12" win the majority of games. Seriously you failed; another shit, dishonest analogy. Its so sad you had the excuse all ready to go too. At least I like how at least you gave up that gun for hire bullshit once i pointed out to you, that thats how the majority of teams run, including the phillies.

When you go into "new york fans are bandwagon fans" its over.... we get it! We know what this is all about. You don't like the new york teams/fans. It comes across like you are jealous or bitter about something else, and to be honest i wouldn't even popped in if you werent the same shithead who had to downplay the giants super bowl win.

Tell me, whats more difficult: rooting for perennial losers; or knowing that your city's only potential dynasty was crushed by a new york team?

And I'm the one who can't let it go, right?
LOL