Remember this thread on census worker??

[valvano]

Oh, I recall this thread, and how quickly everybody was to accuse this on right wing anti govt idiots, tea baggers, etc:

http://beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=92852&highlight=census

well, just as in the fake DNC break in in Denver CO, it too was faked, a failed attempt to cover up a suicide:

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/investigators_say_kentucky_census_worker_committed _suicide/307643/

Kasier Soze and Droppin Science, will you be posting an apology to those folks in Kentucky who you so quickly accused of murding this guy in the name of "right wing politics"?


Dropping Science : "It fits the pattern of right-wing hatred and violence that has been emerging in the last year or so. Look no further than the Knoxville church shooting, the killing of Dr. Tiller, the shooting of a security guard in the Holocaust Museum, and so on. Killing a census worker and writing "fed" on his body meant that some anti-government nutjob killed him because he embodied the U.S. government that he hates and this particular unfortunate fellow was the closest access he had to act out. If more facts emerge that contradict my suspicions, I'll hear them out. For now, I'm calling it as I see it."


Kaiser : "The same thing as bombing a federal building, killing an abortion doctor, sending Anthrax to political and media opponents, carrying assault weapons out in the open, or beating a person of a different ethnicity in a public place.

It is proof people are insane and are willing to intimidate, attack, or kill for their agenda

The warning of the rise of right wing extremism wasn't too far from the mark"

idiots....

[RobMoney$]

I suspect they'll be defiant and refuse to accept any responsibility at all for their absurd, prejudiced comments on this issue.

[DroppinScience]

Okay, I was wrong, and I'll admit it, which is more than can be said for you (I've seen you post numerous articles and made allegations that later turned out to be false). You never own up to anything.

Putting that aside, I made myself clear that I was operating only on WHAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME and would be more than prepared to modify my position once more facts are known. There we have it, I'm a man of my word.

I still stand by my position that I am concerned about the rise of right-wing extremism. Okay, so right-wing extremism was not at play in the census worker's death, but it WAS at play during the Knoxville Church shooting, the murder of Dr. Tiller, and the shooting at the Holocaust Museum. I'm truly glad we do not have a fourth example to add to these unsettling previous events, believe me, I am, but this does not mean "loan wolves" such as Von Brunn at the Holocaust Museum will not strike again. You have the right to be relieved that unstable zealots killing in the name of your ideology did not strike this time, but we are NOT off the hook.

[yeahwho]

So you had to make a complete separate thread to gloat? The thread that this story originated in wasn't enough? And what are you being so righteous about? That thread was still available to post in, you searched for it and could have posted in it.

This is more of grasping onto any little sliver of your own bullshit to legitimize a bi-partisan single minded narrow view of how one person (valvano) perceives the political world.

Oh, I recall this thread, and how quickly everybody was to accuse this on right wing anti govt idiots, tea baggers, etc:

Then you quote 2 posters? Really? Two posters? Not everybody, but 2, T-W-O posters.

To point out how correct you believe you are you make a whole other fucking new thread?

So yes that is really amazing, because you know the thread in which these these 2 (Two) posters speculated is still open and can be added to.

Bask in your glory sir, you really have amazing style and class.

[yeahwho]

I suspect they'll be defiant and refuse to accept any responsibility at all for their absurd, prejudiced comments on this issue.
lmao, that is thick and so very quotable.

[kaiser soze]

My bullshit meter is still going off so I can't apologize right now, sorry!

[valvano]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/01/killing_nonwhit.html

http://www.sharetrails.org/magazine/article.php?id=1193

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us/04homes.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525039,00.html

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Ecoterrorism.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=eco

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08042603.html

[yeahwho]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/01/killing_nonwhit.html

http://www.sharetrails.org/magazine/article.php?id=1193

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us/04homes.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525039,00.html

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Ecoterrorism.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=eco

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08042603.html

You are now a parody of your own self, which btw I thought was impossible but with you valvano all things are possible. This has been so far an amazing thread. I take back my other post where I said you were self aggrandizing, that isn't the purpose of this thread, you're actually out valvanoing valvano.

Wild

[RobMoney$]

Okay, I was wrong, and I'll admit it, which is more than can be said for you (I've seen you post numerous articles and made allegations that later turned out to be false). You never own up to anything.

Putting that aside, I made myself clear that I was operating only on WHAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME and would be more than prepared to modify my position once more facts are known. There we have it, I'm a man of my word.

I still stand by my position that I am concerned about the rise of right-wing extremism. Okay, so right-wing extremism was not at play in the census worker's death, but it WAS at play during the Knoxville Church shooting, the murder of Dr. Tiller, and the shooting at the Holocaust Museum. I'm truly glad we do not have a fourth example to add to these unsettling previous events, believe me, I am, but this does not mean "loan wolves" such as Von Brunn at the Holocaust Museum will not strike again. You have the right to be relieved that unstable zealots killing in the name of your ideology did not strike this time, but we are NOT off the hook.


1. Who are you talking to, valvano or me?

2. Before you break your arm to pat yourself on the back for being such a stand-up guy, maybe try issuing an apology without a qualifier at the end of it.

[RobMoney$]

This is more of grasping onto any little sliver of your own bullshit to legitimize a bi-partisan single minded narrow view of how one person (valvano) perceives the political world.

Oh, I recall this thread, and how quickly everybody was to accuse this on right wing anti govt idiots, tea baggers, etc:

Then you quote 2 posters? Really? Two posters? Not everybody, but 2, T-W-O posters.

To point out how correct you believe you are you make a whole other fucking new thread?

So yes that is really amazing, because you know the thread in which these these 2 (Two) posters speculated is still open and can be added to.

Bask in your glory sir, you really have amazing style and class.


This is exactly the type of response from the left that I expected. Defiant and refusing to accept responsibility till the end.

He quoted 2 (Two) people, that's the TWO who made the most speculative comments in that thread. The people on the right LIKE VALVANO and travesty were the voice of reason from the jump.
Further disparaging valvano only makes kaiser and Lambert that much more ridiculous, no?

[DroppinScience]

1. Who are you talking to, valvano or me?

2. Before you break your arm to pat yourself on the back for being such a stand-up guy, maybe try issuing an apology without a qualifier at the end of it.

I was talking to valvano. I fail to see where you fit into this, but I know you want to insert yourself into anything.

Here's the deal, I'll apologize for my one error if valvano will apologize for the 100 of his own debunked errors. Not a bad track record if you ask me.

[RobMoney$]

I was talking to valvano. I fail to see where you fit into this, but I know you want to insert yourself into anything.

I had made the previous post before yours at the begining of this volley.

Here's the deal, I'll apologize for my one error if valvano will apologize for the 100 of his own debunked errors. Not a bad track record if you ask me.

SMUGNESS, and another qualifier!
Thanks for living up to my prediction.

[Burnout18]

Yea this happens... a year and a month ago some girl carved obama into her forehead and said some black guys attacked her and the right wingers ran with it calling obama suporters thugs and shit. That was a hoax

People comment on the information provided to them.

In fact:
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93122?fp=1

A few Right wingers were fooled by a fake obama college thesis, including one powerful one.

[Bob]

SMUGNESS, and another qualifier!
Thanks for living up to my prediction.

"you're so smug! *immediately is smug*"

[Dorothy Wood]

valvano wins! we allll lose. :(

[RobMoney$]

I got a nice guffaw out of it too, Dorothy.

[DroppinScience]

SMUGNESS, and another qualifier!
Thanks for living up to my prediction.

You need to find a new hobby, my friend, because you're just getting creepy.

[yeahwho]

This is exactly the type of response from the left that I expected. Defiant and refusing to accept responsibility till the end.

He quoted 2 (Two) people, that's the TWO who made the most speculative comments in that thread. The people on the right LIKE VALVANO and travesty were the voice of reason from the jump.
Further disparaging valvano only makes kaiser and Lambert that much more ridiculous, no?

What is your point, my post (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1700618&postcount=19) from that thread is completely nuetral and if anything more conservative than all of the other posts.

You have no other purpose here than to point out how RIGHT you are while telling the rest of us how wrong or left we are.

I don't really give a rats ass, but c'mon grow up and realize it isn't your job to disagree on every political post.

[RobMoney$]

What is your point, my post (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1700618&postcount=19) from that thread is completely nuetral and if anything more conservative than all of the other posts.

You have no other purpose here than to point out how RIGHT you are while telling the rest of us how wrong or left we are.

I don't really give a rats ass, but c'mon grow up and realize it isn't your job to disagree on every political post.


I didn't post in the original thread. I offered no opinion at all, so how could I "point out how right I was"?

The only thing I offered an opinion on was that there would be no REAL apology from anyone. And I made it before anyone responded to this thread.

All anyone had to do to prove me wrong was post TWO (2), that's two, single words.

1. I
2. Apologize


So yes, I think I have a right to be smug when that simple prediction comes true. The fact that the uber left leaning posters (kaiser & Lambert) immediatley stereotyped the person as an "obvious right wing nutjob" is pretty offensive.
Hypothetically switch roles here and I guarentee both kaiser & Lambert are way more self-righteous and smug than I'm being.

[RobMoney$]

You need to find a new hobby, my friend, because you're just getting creepy.


You, my friend, were just served a heeping plate of humble pie by Chef valvano.
How's it taste?


BTW, how can responding to an internet thread about politics be "creepy"? What a completely feminine thing to say?

[Drederick Tatum]

how is that feminine?

[RobMoney$]

Do you think "creepy" is a masculine thing to say?

[b i o n i c]

The fact that the uber left leaning posters (kaiser & Lambert) immediatley stereotyped the person as an "obvious right wing nutjob" is pretty offensive.

unless youre a right wing nutjob, don't be so offended?

[kaiser soze]

Hypothetically switch roles here and I guarentee both kaiser & Lambert are way more self-righteous and smug than I'm being.

I said my bullshit meter is still running high so I won't apologize right now, nothing self-righteous or smug about that

so once again, sorry for not apologizing!

[NoFenders]

Classic stuff. Seriously, it shows so much.

:cool:

[DroppinScience]

Do you think "creepy" is a masculine thing to say?

Yeah, it's such a womanly thing to say. A lot like this guy here...


For what it's worth, I always thought William Buckley was creepy and weird.


but it's both creepy and pathetic that it took you all these years to muster the courage to finally let that out.

I have to wonder if 8 years ago people were pledging to be a servant to Bush, how you would have reacted to this.

Creepy? Yes/No?


What's next? Should we just list the job for POTUS on Ebay and auction it off to the highest bidder?


Creepy.

What a limp-wrist feminine thing to say.

[YoungRemy]

Do you think "creepy" is a masculine thing to say?

it depends on how you feel about William Buckley.

[QueenAdrock]

Do you think "creepy" is a masculine thing to say?

Why don't you ask this guy (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1628077&postcount=3)?

Edit: Looks like Brett and Remy called you out on your hypocrisy before I did. I'd gloat about it and ask you how it tastes, but it'd be overkill to do so since it happens so often. Gloating about "victories" on this board are for people who don't have them that often.

[DroppinScience]

Yeah, Rob walked right into that one...

[DroppinScience]

I said my bullshit meter is still running high so I won't apologize right now, nothing self-righteous or smug about that

so once again, sorry for not apologizing!

In all seriousness, what makes your bullshit meter go high? It's being reported by reputable news sources, not right-wing blogs. I do regret jumping the gun. It's not a quality I want to mimic from my right-wing counterparts, since they've made that almost an art.

[kaiser soze]

oh I don't know....maybe the fact that this guy bound and gag himself well enough to "throw off the scent" of authorities momentarily. This is a man who FOUGHT cancer and survived...why kill himself? I'm sure he wasn't the strongest nor the most flexible to accomplish making his bounds look legitimate.

it just doesn't float with me

[DroppinScience]

So a homicide made to look like a suicide made to look like a homicide? Boggles the mind. :eek:

BTW, the AP report for the record:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9C6E8L83

If it was indeed suicide, it would be odd to make it look like homicide in this manner. But the facts need to be what happened, not what you wanted to happen. This goes for both the left and the right.

[yeahwho]

There is an inappropriate amount of scorning happening in this thread.

[RobMoney$]

Yeah, it's such a womanly thing to say. A lot like this guy here...

What a limp-wrist feminine thing to say.



LOL...touche.

[kaiser soze]

touche?

Don't you owe an apology?

ok, touche valvano

I don't know too many people who would humiliate themselves and their families for a suicide, I mean come on....getting naked to hang yourself?

a chipmunk might munch it off

[RobMoney$]

I do regret jumping the gun. It's not a quality I want to mimic from my right-wing counterparts, since they've made that almost an art.


At least Lambert showed some genuine remorse for jumping to conclusions and stereotyping.
Even thogh had still couldn't do so without taking a jab at the right.

Kaiser continues to refuse to accept any responsibility whatsoever.
Thanks for showing what a complete piece of shit you are.
Happy Thanksgiving (y)

[kaiser soze]

ok

i don't and never will owe you shit, fat fuck

[yeahwho]

lol this whole thread is like a cornucopia of scornucopia


good shit sherlock