people still dissing tt5b

[pesto pizza]

just saw an interview on mtv about what albums people are looking forward to in 2010 and hsc was one of them and this mtv staffer saying "from what tracks she's heard its better than tt5b,but most things are anyway"
what about "the mix up" no one disses that album and thats only got about four strong tracks on it and the rest is ok.
to the five boroughs listing
strong tracks=
check it out,right now,rhyme the rhyme well,triple trouble,oh word,all lifestyles,open letter to nyc(thats 7 tracks amazing tracks)
ok,average tracks=
3 the hard way,hey fuck you,thats it thats all,shazam,crawlspace,brouhaha(thats 6 very good but not amazing tracks)
poor tracks=
it takes time to build,we got the(2 tracks that are not very good and i would rather left off the album and brrr! stick 'em on in its place)

so why people are people still dissing that album,have they not heard the shit that other rap artists bring out(most albums with only one good song on them,about 10 stupid skits and another 19 weak boring songs on them).
I just don't understand why people pick holes in things when something is good,just not as amazing as the beasties first three albums.its hard to make a 10/10 album every time,i'd still give tt5b 8/10 though.

[jayjacobson16]

I fuckin' love To The 5 Boroughs. The beats are awesome and unique. the lyrics are awesome and it never gets boring to listen to. No one else can compare to the Beastie Boys. Neither can any album in the past ten years compare to TT5B. I'm sure HSC will be better but thats just cause they have gotten better. Fans should be happy that the beastie boys always have something new to bring every album. There other albums are fantastic albums too but that would be kinda gay if they purposly copied it.

[pm0ney]

I liked it a lot more when it first came out, mainly because it was the first new Beastie Boys music that I've heard in 6 years (In A World Gone Mad doesn't exist to me.) It has aged horribly and is easily their worst album. Everything that I have heard so far off HSC gives me every indication that that album will be much better than TT5B.

[cj hood]

its an album of great b-sides....

[sureshot]

hey i just listened to the whole album today i still like it, its an awesome album

[Rodie]

At the risk of being ejected from this facility I will admit that it is my third favorite B-Boys album (after HN and PB). Although even I will admit that "We Got The" sucked then and sucks now.

[acamus]

i've said it before and i'll say it again. TT5B is the only BB album i still listen to on a regular basis. i loved all the others in their time and for a long time and still do. (gotta admit, i slept on PB.) but TT5B is the fucking shit. the music. the packaging. the ideas that surrounded it at the time (e.g., Creative Commons). the tour with the dogs and Kweli. the track suit fashion. the video for AOLTNTC. the construction of Oscope. their appearance in NBA Street V3. and on and on ...

[Miho]

I liked it when it came out, but it doesn't have a high replay value, in my opinion. It gets stale over time.

But yeah, Hot Sauce Committee sounds great so far, from what I heard. That seems to be on the level of Ill Communication and Check Your Head.

[jayjacobson16]

TT5B is my second favorite album and HN is my first there is no way you can say that TT5B sucks its impossible. So far i think HSC will be better and will probably end up replacing TT5B or even HN's place.

[BoggleKing]

Wait, so the new album is going to be called Hot Sauce Committee... I liked Tadlock's Glasses..

[carlson.213]

i dont think hsc is going to out do tt5b.

tt5b was sick.

and time to build was not poor.
that beat is sssick

[pshabi]

Am I the only one who likes "We Got The?"

[Brother McDuff]

it's a really fun album for beastie fans, I think. but I can also understand why casual listeners and more general audiences were underwhelmed.

[Nerd Fight]

I think the retro, stripped down style they were going for can come across to some people as a bit lifeless and timid. So for a lot of people the album sounds kind of weak.
But if you can get into that sound, into the stripped down state of mind, then it's an enjoyable, fun album.

I generally suscribe to the first point of view, but sometimes when I'm in the mood I find myself enjoying the album quite a bit.

Can't believe it's coming on for 6 years old, though :eek:.

[pesto pizza]

I think the retro, stripped down style they were going for can come across to some people as a bit lifeless and timid. So for a lot of people the album sounds kind of weak.
But if you can get into that sound, into the stripped down state of mind, then it's an enjoyable, fun album.

I generally suscribe to the first point of view, but sometimes when I'm in the mood I find myself enjoying the album quite a bit.

Can't believe it's coming on for 6 years old, though :eek:.

I think you have hit the nail on the head!the album was coming from a different angle,different style,keeping it freshhhhhhhhhhhh!

[Kid Presentable]

If they're going to insist on being a straight-up hip-hop act, then they will be judged alongside other straight-up hip-hop acts.

Tadlock's Glasses sounds like a 'Do over' of TT5B so far.

[JasonP]

I must say this is the first TT5B appreciation thread that i can remember seeing. Glad to see it. I listen to TT5B and HN more often than the others these days.

[Monsieur Decuts]

listen to Professor Booty, or Bboys makin with the Freak Freak....these two songs outline my Beastie experience...and there were no comparable tracks on TT5B...nothing that had the musical/cultural expression or the funkin nuts of MCA's verse on PBoots.

I would like to see a love v. age comparison of TT5B opinions. I can't see anyone who grew up with the elder hip hop statesmen truly feeling these pop beats.

[Brother McDuff]

I would like to see a love v. age comparison of TT5B opinions. I can't see anyone who grew up with the elder hip hop statesmen truly feeling these pop beats.


those beats actually weren't very poppy, save for one or two of them. they just used the shit out of synth sounds. but alotta synth sounds doesn't equal pop music simply because pop music uses alotta of synth sounds. in all honesty, TT5B tracks sound closer to an underground record than a pop record.

[Monsieur Decuts]

those beats actually weren't very poppy, save for one or two of them. they just used the shit out of synth sounds. but alotta synth sounds doesn't equal pop music simply because pop music uses alotta of synth sounds. in all honesty, TT5B tracks sound closer to an underground record than a pop record.

I'm just saying..when I think pop I think synth. Obviously there is a large amount of subjectivity involved here!

[Guy Incognito]

what about "the mix up" no one disses that album and thats only got about four strong tracks on it and the rest is ok.
.

the mix up is poor but it gets no shit cos it was a departure and cant really be compared to rest of their output. they should get credit for trying something different but it still feels like tracks missing vocals


Tadlock's Glasses sounds like a 'Do over' of TT5B so far.

really? you on the wind up?

[pm0ney]

The main thing about TT5B I didn't like were the political lyrics and the production. All of the beats outside of Ch Check It Out (which, not coincidentally had a drum loop sampled in as the main beat) sounded very tinny, and thin. Licensed To Ill had stripped down beats, but those beats fuckin hit hard. TT5B did not. There was no boom-bap. They admitted in interviews leading up to the release that they used computers and no drum machines and I think that was a mistake.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

in all honesty, TT5B tracks sound closer to an underground record than a pop record.

this is why i liked TT5B (a little underground sounding -- not obviously pop orientated). i think TT5B holds up well over time and with the rest of the official Beastie releases continues to shine (the novel sounds and sage samples of TT5B were much appreciated by me in 2004 as they are today).

compared to a lot of albums by other artists released since 2004 I also feel that TT5B holds up nicely.

looking forward to HSC though -- feel it will knock our socks off (video versions of the songs would be sweet).

[jayjacobson16]

listen to Professor Booty, or Bboys I would like to see a love v. age comparison of TT5B opinions. I can't see anyone who grew up with the elder hip hop statesmen truly feeling these pop beats.

Have you heard pop beats. They sound more like lady Gaga and lil wayne's producer's beats. They are garbage. TT5B beats are the shit. i'm sorry you don't like it but I doubt the Beastie Boys want to redo the exact same thing they did previously. At least every album is different from one another. If they made another album like an old one that would be awesome too but I'm glad that they have new ideas every time.

[Monsieur Decuts]

Have you heard pop beats. They sound more like lady Gaga and lil wayne's producer's beats. They are garbage. TT5B beats are the shit. i'm sorry you don't like it but I doubt the Beastie Boys want to redo the exact same thing they did previously. At least every album is different from one another. If they made another album like an old one that would be awesome too but I'm glad that they have new ideas every time.

Apology accepted, but I didn't say I didn't like it! I do stand by the pop categorization however. I also appreciate the previous reference to the LTI beats that are stripped down and 808 you in the face. TT5B beats just kind of Reason you on the back of the neck a bit. And I know its on purpose, and that's okay with me I'm glad to see them experiment. If it wasn't for the horrible Cookie Puss we wouldn't have had the gem of LTI.

TT5B doesn't fit into my Beastie experience, which can be MUCH different from anyone elses because they've ingeniously incorporated just about every style of music into their catalog. I'm just saying I know why some people don't like the album as it lays out just about one sound for the consumer whilst the others had something for everyone!

23 years later I still am giddy for the next installment.

[Kid Presentable]

really? you on the wind up?

I thin you're misreading, or I'm not being clear. I mean 'do over' as in it's them trying the hip-hop album idea again, not as in creating TT5B again.

[Guy Incognito]

I thin you're misreading, or I'm not being clear. I mean 'do over' as in it's them trying the hip-hop album idea again, not as in creating TT5B again.

yes you are correct i misunderstood . I would argue that they thought TT5B was more of what a hip hop album should be but this time they have decided to make a beasties album again. lee majors is not hip hop ..at all. imo.

[jayjacobson16]

lee majors is not hip hop ..at all. imo.

Well Lee Majors is still hip hop if you count the lyrics and rapping. Just not the instrumental.

[Guy Incognito]

Well Lee Majors is still hip hop if you count the lyrics and rapping. Just not the instrumental.

i dont consider sabotage to be a hip hop record so i guess i'll lump lee majors in the same category but each to their own i suppose(y)

[mate_spawn_die]

Am I the only one who likes "We Got The?"

nope

i liked it then and i like it now

[Ty Webb]

WHO FUCKING CARES

[jayjacobson16]

WHO FUCKING CARES

What are you talking about?

[DJ Pioneer]

Brrr Stick 'Em = good b-side!

I like TT5B, but a couple songs have aged political lyrics now (as people have said).

Not that I totally dislike "All Lifestyles," but the hook was pretty lame. "We gotta keep the party goin' on, all lifestyles, shapes, and forms???"

[pm0ney]

WHO FUCKING CARES

A flute without holes is not a flute. And a donut without a hole, is a danish. Right Ty?

[Randetica]

tt5b is not outstanding in a bad way but also not in a good one

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I liked To the 5 Boroughs, BUT, what it's lacking, in my opinion, is solid samples. It doesn't have the organic feel that their previous albums had because they're using a lot of soft-synths to make those beats instead of samples of old (and new) records. There's just something about using samples off old records that gives a song another dimension. That whole hodge podge of samples concept gives a sum = greater than its parts result that's hard to create using synths. TT5B sounds left brained compared to the previous albums, almost like they thought too much. The other thing is the production on it sounds really compressed, which is good for a noisy car or laptop speakers but not as good on a stereo. Brrr Stick 'Em is almost like an exception to the album cause it's got all those samples. Add's different vibe to it.

[Darko]

Despite the few serious political moments, I think TT5B is their funnest album to listen to. It's just an incredibly silly album full of catchy, simplistic beats and goofy lyrics about shawls and Mr. Belvedere. If I want something a little more substantial to listen to, I'll put on Check Your Head or Hello Nasty. If I want something light and fun, I'll put on TT5B.

[SpacemanSpliff]

But yeah, Hot Sauce Committee sounds great so far, from what I heard. That seems to be on the level of Ill Communication and Check Your Head.

really? well, i hope so.

[Ghouls_Night]

I have never felt disappointed with anything the Boys have put out, EVER.

There are only 2 maybe 3 bands that I can honestly say never do wrong...IMO

Super-fan? Maybe...

I'm just glad that their still out there making the music that they wanna make and how they wanna make it.

I'd be thrilled to get TT5B part 2..3...4.. and 5! :D

[Pearsonic]

Maybe I too am a bit of a super fan, where in my reality as long as the B-Boys keep making music the way they want to make it - I'm happier than a high schooler dippin his ruler.

TT5B is an album I thoroughly love all tracks, save for Triple Trounle and We got the.

As usual, the Boys are ahead of their time for any 'main-streamers' when it comes to their beats. Their lyrics are awesome - some of the awesome-est lyrics I've heard from them IMO.

And as long as they keep MMM in the fold, (whom I thought was the perfect mating of DJ to the B-Boys when they first joined forces - I was a MMM fan before he got the B-Boy gig,) I see no end to the band turning out great ALBUMS, (not singles like soooo many other artists in the biz these days,) for years to come.

[brmanuk]

What is so bad about We Got The?

[Pearsonic]

What is so bad about We Got The?

Well, to me it's not so much the lyrics, but maybe the hook. The message is an awesome one, but the hook seems a bit lacking to me.

[senbei]

What is so bad about We Got The?

It sounds like song written by high school students about trying to change the world. No subtlety, all 1st degree, no flavour, y'know!

Good intention, awful execution.

And that 6pm news broadcast theme beat just doesn't save it

[nypb]

I have a special place for tt5b. It makes me nostalgic because it came out right before I left NY for the last time.

I never cared for the political aspects of the disc either, I listen to music to escape these matters. I knew it wouldn't hold up well then, and it hasn't.

[roosta]

I quite like it. It's possibly their poorest album, but that doesn't make it a poor record.

I think the problem is that it was so different, but personally I don't want my favourite artists constantly pumping out the same sound.

To me it just adds to the smorgasbord that is the beastie's catalogue. You want dusty samples / rock influences / distorted vocals, you've got 2 albums of that, you want a more eclectic mix of styles, you've got HN, you want straight up 80s hiphop, you've got LTI, etc. etc.

It's like when DJ Shadow came out with "The Outsider" but as he said, do fans really want him making Entroducing every few years? What would be the point?

I quite like "We Got The" too.

[FunkyDonkey28]

love it or hate it, you have to admit that Mike D has some funny lines on this album......

[JoLovesMCA]

That MTV staffer wants to talk about better?? Well they should listen to how hip hop has become because they've got that same exact hook in almost every song. Hard to describe it but you've heard it in every single damn song. It least the BB's have fun and still throw in samples and stuff. Honestly even six or seven years old now and I'd rather listen to them than any of the new rap acts. Unless its Cypress Hill, then we can talk. Hip Hop has become too "pop". BB's keep the Hip in hop and vice versa. You can take TT5B and not find many albums like it but you can take Jay Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne and everybody else and not see much difference in the sound.

[FunkyHiFi]

Personally I think TT5B is....O.K. Musically-speaking I just don't much like the "electronic" feel it has, sort of a cold & preprogrammed vibe to it I guess you could say. On the other hand, to me PB and CYH are much more organic & live sounding and enjoy them much more as a result. And while HN, my favorite Beastie album btw, has its share of electronical sounds :), there's lots of warmth mixed in there to balance out the more synthesized stuff.

[Justin]

I just want to comment on "we got the"

Listen....it's a GREAT "closure" song. No other song on the album could fit that role.

I like it! Then again...I've always been a big fan of the beastie "closure" songs, when others have hated them.

Nameste (CYH) and Transitions (IC) are 2 of my fav beastie songs.