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Echewta
01-28-2010, 12:55 PM
OK, so i get trying to make it look like the State of the Union. I felt a bit odd but ok. I tried to listen but I couldn't take the four brady bunch like heads around the Gov. The "real" people. Nodding in agreement or frowning when he said something bad. Clapping in approval or looking serious when the tough issues were being mentioned. Had to turn it off.

RobMoney$
01-28-2010, 06:16 PM
Didn't see it, but it sounds similar to Biden and Pelosi sitting behind Obama last night. They did everything but hold up the "applause" signs.
Like a couple of really poor actors trying to emote whatever Obama's comment was attempting to communicate.

Echewta
01-28-2010, 07:36 PM
Actually, no. Those elected officials are expected to be behind the President and its common to see Biden, Cheney, Gore, Mr. Potatoe, Bush, etc. doing their smiling, clapping, and getting their squats in.

This was like 4 "average americans" that totally came off as planted coached actors.

saz
01-28-2010, 08:20 PM
governor bob mcdonnell organized a well coordinated and presented gathering in virginia's house of delegates for his state of the union response, which included a website, a live webcast of his response, and also utilized a live twitter feed and other social media applications. soturesponse.com was the site which broadcasted mcdonnell's response.

what's interesting though is that the website and the coordinated gathering in virginia's house of delegates was financed by mcdonnell’s political action committee: opportunity virginia pac. and thanks to the virginia public access project (http://www.vpap.org/), the majority of the financial support mcdonnell's political action committee received was from the financial sector (http://www.vpap.org/committees/profile/money_in_industry1/2936?start_year=2009&end_year=2010&lookup_type=year&filing_period=all).

so it really came as no surprise then that mcdonnell opposed obama’s proposed initiatives to regulate the banks and wall street, break up huge banks and enforce a tax on the banks, as wall street bankrolled his political campaign and essentially scripted his rebuttal.

yeahwho
01-28-2010, 08:49 PM
Was Obama right or wrong to point out the SCOTUS decision and the SCOTUS during his State of the Union speech?

He sort of did a bit of trash talkin' about the invalidated portion of the McCain-Feingold Campaign finance law that the government may not ban political spending by corporations (including foreign corporations) in candidate elections.

It seemed ballsy but many found it petulant child like behavior unbecoming of a sitting President, especially since the Supreme Court is supposed to be in the presence of the State of the Union Speech as observers, not participants.

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pB5uR3zgsA&feature=player_embedded)

yeahwho
01-29-2010, 12:46 PM
I am just going to go with the "no response" to the above post that everyone agrees Obama was outstanding with this unprecedented politicizing of the Supreme Court (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pB5uR3zgsA&feature=player_embedded) during his State of the Union speech.

Cheers

DroppinScience
01-29-2010, 01:03 PM
I didn't have a problem with Obama blasting the Supreme Court (well, specifically the 5 justices who voted for corporate influence in campaigns).

It's not as if they're some kind of infallible body.

yeahwho
01-29-2010, 01:16 PM
Potus v. Scotus showdown at the SOTU, as this analysis (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/01/29/on-obama-v-alito-whos-right-heres-your-answer/)points out in the wall st. journal. Which has some excellent observations in its comments section, especially refreshing considering the wall street journal is the corporate cheerleader.

one example,

The Obama-Alito difference and the resultant commentary is just noise. The signal has at its core the preposterous notion that a juristic person, wholly a creature of statutory law, should have the same Constitutional rights as a natural person in American political discourse. As conservative economist Milton Friedman observed, corporations have only one legitimate concern — making money for shareholders within the bounds of law. Natural persons have a host of concerns — family, community, religion, posterity and the like. That Alito and his fellow travelers have abandoned common sense, logic, and a century of good law in awarding human status to business entities is truly radical.

To me the only substantial thing that mattered during the SOTU speech was how President Obama went so overt with the SCOTUS during his speech. He may actually be pissed off, I don't think that was an accident, he meant to do it.

RobMoney$
01-29-2010, 01:46 PM
I am just going to go with the "no response" to the above post that everyone agrees Obama was outstanding with this unprecedented politicizing of the Supreme Court (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pB5uR3zgsA&feature=player_embedded) during his State of the Union speech.

Cheers


This thread is about the republican response, isn't it?

Perhaps if someone had started a thread about the State of the Union Address, that would be a more appropiate place to discuss it.
I intentionally did not start that thread because it speaks louder to the lameness of this forum that there's not one.
Perhaps you were all waiting for your various political media spin doctors to tell you what to think about the speech?


Personally, I didn't find it to be much differen't than the "YOU LIE" comment that had all of the Dems panties in a bunch.
Seeing Chuck Schumer lean over Alito's head and clap immediatley following the comment was even classier.

Echewta
01-29-2010, 03:54 PM
this was really about the odd looking people that were around the Virginia Gov. and their reactions to what he was saying.

yeahwho
01-29-2010, 10:13 PM
This thread is about the republican response, isn't it?

Perhaps if someone had started a thread about the State of the Union Address, that would be a more appropiate place to discuss it.
I intentionally did not start that thread because it speaks louder to the lameness of this forum that there's not one.
Perhaps you were all waiting for your various political media spin doctors to tell you what to think about the speech?


Personally, I didn't find it to be much differen't than the "YOU LIE" comment that had all of the Dems panties in a bunch.
Seeing Chuck Schumer lean over Alito's head and clap immediatley following the comment was even classier.

I didn't even watch the SOTUS I was at work with other fellow citizens, i did however read it and then, yes, formed an opinion. I am a US citizen and a registered voter who has voted Republican, I'm making a response which features not only a conservative POV, also an extremely corporate newspaper's POV which owned by Dow Jones. My facts are correct, my response is correct and tone is correct.

So President Obama was equal to Joe Wilson or was Justice Samuel Alito equal to Joe Wilson? It really isn't all that clear from your response.

DroppinScience
01-31-2010, 12:59 AM
Frank Rich proves time and again that he knows what's going on. Here's his take on the State of the Union...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/opinion/31rich.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss