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RobMoney$
02-02-2010, 08:21 PM
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/02/01/ncbi-rofl-thats-one-miraculous-conception/
Oral conception. Impregnation via the proximal gastrointestinal tract in a patient with an aplastic distal vagina. Case report.

[Ed. note: There is no abstract, so we're including most of the original article below. It's a bit long, but trust us--it's worth the read!]

“Case report:

The patient was a 15-year-old girl employed in a local bar. She was admitted to hospital after a knife fight involving her, a former lover and a new boyfriend. Who stabbed whom was not quite clear but all three participants in the small war were admitted with knife injuries.

The girl had some minor lacerations of the left hand and a single stab-wound in the upper abdomen. Under general anaesthesia, laparotomy was performed through an upper midline abdominal incision to reveal two holes in the stomach. These two wounds had resulted from the single stab-wound through the abdominal wall. The two defects were repaired in two layers. The stomach was noted empty at the time of surgery and no gastric contents were seen in the abdomen. Nevertheless, the abdominal cavity was lavaged with normal saline before closure. The condition of the patient improved rapidly following routine postoperative care and she was discharged home after 10 days.

Precisely 278 days later the patient was admitted again to hospital with acute, intermittent abdominal pain. Abdominal examination revealed a term pregnancy with a cephalic fetal presentation. The uterus was contracting regularly and the fetal heart was heard. Inspection of the vulva showed no vagina, only a shallow skin dimple was present below the external urethral meatus and between the labia minora. An emergency lower segment caesarean section was performed under spinal anaesthesia and a live male infant weighing 2800 g was born…

…While closing the abdominal wall, curiosity could not be contained any longer and the patient was interviewed with the help of a sympathetic nursing sister. The whole story did not become completely clear during that day but, with some subsequent inquiries, the whole saga emerged.

The patient was well aware of the fact that she had no vagina and she had started oral experiments after disappointing attempts at conventional intercourse. Just before she was stabbed in the abdomen she had practised fellatio with her new boyfriend and was caught in the act by her former lover. The fight with knives ensued. She had never had a period and there was no trace of lochia after the caesarean section. She had been worried about the increase in her abdominal size but could not believe she was pregnant although it had crossed her mind more often as her girth increased and as people around her suggested that she was pregnant. She did recall several episodes of lower abdominal pain during the previous year. The young mother, her family, and the likely father adapted themselves rapidly to the new situation and some cattle changed hands to prove that there were no hard feelings.


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A plausible explanation for this pregnancy is that spermatozoa gained access to the reproductive organs via the injured gastrointestinal tract. It is known that spermatozoa do not survive long in an environment with a low pH (Jeffcoate1975), but it is also known that saliva has a high pH and that a starved person does not produce acid under normal circumstances (Bernards & Bouman 1976). It is likely that the patient became pregnant with her first or nearly first ovulation otherwise one would expect that inspissated blood in the uterus and salpinges would have made fertilization difficult. The fact that the son resembled the father excludes an even more miraculous conception.”


I'm not sure if my mind has ever been so blown.

Lyman Zerga
02-02-2010, 08:24 PM
slut!

Miho
02-02-2010, 08:30 PM
That knife better be there for his kid, and pay his child support.

cosmo105
02-02-2010, 11:10 PM
Hrmm. The more I read of this, the less convinced I was by it. The tone isn't very academic, and it just doesn't make sense. I couldn't find anything that directly refuted this article, but it is remarkably similar to one on snopes from the Civil War era that has made the rounds. While the article itself is definitely cited in the British Journal of Obstetrical Gynecology, the similarities ("exactly 287 days") in the stories are a little suspect. Who knows, it could be real - but I'm a skeptic.

jabumbo
02-02-2010, 11:19 PM
did anyone stop to think about why there would be sperm on the knife in the first place?

RobMoney$
02-02-2010, 11:28 PM
15 year old girl with unimaginable human deformaties, Bars, Knife fights, BJs, Cattle changing hands to settle ill-feelings,...sounds like a perfectly normal story to me?

RobMoney$
02-02-2010, 11:32 PM
did anyone stop to think about why there would be sperm on the knife in the first place?


There wasn't sperm on the knife, it was in her stomach.
The stab wound allowed it to travel from her stomach to the uterus.



Also dude, the prefered verbage is spermatozoa.

cosmo105
02-02-2010, 11:42 PM
oops meant to link to it (http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/bullet.asp)

mikizee
02-03-2010, 03:25 AM
Yeah I call bullshit.

Ty Webb
02-03-2010, 03:28 PM
i also call bullshit. I'd think the sperm would have a tough time getting through the bloodstream and finding the egg seems unlikely.

Adam
02-03-2010, 03:41 PM
I take every link from Rob with a massive pinch of salt ;)

Caribou
02-03-2010, 05:32 PM
i also call bullshit. I'd think the sperm would have a tough time getting through the bloodstream and finding the egg seems unlikely.

Not only this, but your stomach contains acid (pH 2) which will kill anything in there.
Also, a girl with no vagina who has never had a period does not ovulate and is therefor unable to get impregnated.

Good 'wtf'-type story, but entirely impossible.

Bob
02-03-2010, 05:35 PM
besides, how would the sperm survive getting stabbed?

mickill
02-03-2010, 06:02 PM
I see no reason not to believe this story. This kind of thing probably happens a lot more frequently than we think.

Freebasser
02-03-2010, 06:19 PM
Has anybody made a joke about a pork sword yet? No?

Good.

RobMoney$
02-03-2010, 06:33 PM
Besides, I just don't buy that two guys would be fighting over a girl with no vagina.

Caribou
02-03-2010, 06:37 PM
Has anybody made a joke about a pork sword yet? No?

Good.

:')

RobMoney$
02-03-2010, 06:50 PM
Not only this, but your stomach contains acid (pH 2) which will kill anything in there.
Also, a girl with no vagina who has never had a period does not ovulate and is therefor unable to get impregnated.

Good 'wtf'-type story, but entirely impossible.

Let's entertain the assumption that this story is factual for a minute.

It's a pretty good bet that this story takes place in a land that's not very civilized.
1) I imagine modern medicine would be able to help someone born with such a physical abnormality as a deformed or non-existant vagina in a civilized country.
2) the remark about cattle changing hands lends itself to this taking place in an impovershed area.

It's completely plausible that someone living in a rural, impovershed land would commonly be hungry and not to have anything in her stomach, as the story stated:


The stomach was noted empty at the time of surgery and no gastric contents were seen in the abdomen.



And I don't see how the lack of a vaginal canal would somehow prevent ovulaion?
If she had a healthy uterus and was begining to ovulate for the first time as the story suggested,

It is likely that the patient became pregnant with her first or nearly first ovulation otherwise one would expect that inspissated blood in the uterus and salpinges would have made fertilization difficult.

I think it's perfectly plausible.

hpdrifter
02-03-2010, 07:00 PM
The pH 2 stuff is stomach acid.

It's kinda always there, even when your stomach is "empty".

cosmo105
02-03-2010, 07:39 PM
besides, how would the sperm survive getting stabbed?

*applauds* this

RobMoney$
02-03-2010, 08:19 PM
The pH 2 stuff is stomach acid.

It's kinda always there, even when your stomach is "empty".


According to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_acid), gastric acid has a ph of between 1 and 2, and according to the original aricle, the higher the ph, the better the enviorment for supporting spermatozoa:
It is known that spermatozoa do not survive long in an environment with a low pH (Jeffcoate1975), but it is also known that saliva has a high pH and that a starved person does not produce acid under normal circumstances (Bernards & Bouman 1976).


Also, Does the body even digest spermatozoa?
Perhaps it's like corn and just gets passed through the digestive process unscathed?

Lyman Zerga
02-03-2010, 09:24 PM
Besides, I just don't buy that two guys would be fighting over a girl with no vagina.

checkyourprez would

Caribou
02-03-2010, 09:47 PM
According to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_acid), gastric acid has a ph of between 1 and 2, and according to the original aricle, the higher the ph, the better the enviorment for supporting spermatozoa:


Exactly, the HIGHER the pH.

Sperm itself has a high pH value (so above 7, which means it's an alkaline) to protect itself from the slight acidity of the vagina (pH 5,2 , I just looked it up.) Sperms can protect themselves for a while, but even a low acidic value as 5 is enough to kill it.
So if sperm gets in contact with something with a very low pH value, like gastric acid (which is ALWAYS there, even if someone hasn't eaten) it is certain to die immediately.

ms.peachy
02-03-2010, 09:47 PM
Also, Does the body even digest spermatozoa?
Perhaps it's like corn and just gets passed through the digestive process unscathed?

I'm sure it would get broken down into protein strands, amino acid chains and all that, and digested normally through absorption in the intestines. Like an egg basically.

cosmo105
02-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Acid denatures protein. Humans can't digest fiber, hence corn poop.

RobMoney$
02-03-2010, 11:02 PM
I wasn't really expecting anyone to dignify that with a serious response, cosmo. But OK.

cosmo105
02-03-2010, 11:15 PM
I meant to add "for the sake of argument" to that post and forgot. Just spreading the knowledge.

Ty Webb
02-03-2010, 11:49 PM
checkyourprez would

THIS

Dorothy Wood
02-04-2010, 01:05 AM
when you poop out corn, it's not the whole corn, it's the outer shell...it's just filled with poop.

then you get poopcorn. GET IT?! OMG

poopcorn.



also, I told my friend this story and then immediately felt like an idiot. when you say it out loud, it sounds ridic.

Adam
02-04-2010, 03:14 AM
One sperm says to the other
"how far to the egg"
"oh, quite far yet mate, we've only just past the tonsils"

Bob
02-04-2010, 03:17 AM
what did the penis say to the condom? cover me i'm going in

why did the condom fly across the room? it was pissed off



hell yeah we're starting a new page with this