LOST Season 6 Thread

[nodanaonlyzuul]

I was going to say, he never killed Desmond so maybe a different agreement was made, or he figured he should act like he's still on Locke's side but actually help the group or whatever...

Man, that episode was depressing.

[roosta]

Depressing, but awesome.

Deprawesome.

[Bob]

a friend just pointed this out to me - when desmond was working in that monastery a season or two ago, his job was corking wine bottles

[roosta]

a friend just pointed this out to me - when desmond was working in that monastery a season or two ago, his job was corking wine bottles

ha!

(also when Smokey attacked Widmore's compound...what happened to Widmore?)

[Guy Incognito]

a meteorite is involved somewhere in all this. I have heard a few people shouting theories about meterorites but hadnt really listened to them until i noticed the music box thingy that clare had played the tune of "Catch a Falling Star". thats all i have.

[checkyourprez]

ha!

(also when Smokey attacked Widmore's compound...what happened to Widmore?)

hiding yo.

same with miles, the hoe with the glasses and probably some lackeys.

[Burnout18]

Hey do you guys think claire is gonna kill kate?

I still don't believe if frank is dead. What are the odds that the captain of the sub saved his ass?

[checkyourprez]

Hey do you guys think claire is gonna kill kate?

I still don't believe if frank is dead. What are the odds that the captain of the sub saved his ass?

hopefully, that dumb bitch.

[Guy Incognito]

Hey do you guys think claire is gonna kill kate?

I still don't believe if frank is dead. What are the odds that the captain of the sub saved his ass?

i think claire might get the opportunity to kill kate, probably given to her by locke but whether she takes it is the big question

frank is dead.

[checkyourprez]

i bet either claire or kate sacrifices themselves for the other. i bet claire double crosses locke.

[Burnout18]

I think it may come down to claire in a position to kill kate, and jack has a chance to stop it and he has a split moment to decide wether he kills his blood sister or let kate die at claires hands.

Btw i can't remember being this excited/obsessed over any other season. Or to be honest i cant remember being this excited over any other series finale. Maybe because with the sopranos or seinfeld there was only a few ways they could go, with lost i really can't guess it.

[Guy Incognito]

I think it may come down to claire in a position to kill kate, and jack has a chance to stop it and he has a split moment to decide wether he kills his blood sister or let kate die at claires hands.




this i like but at the minute jacks stance on everything is do nothing and we'll be ok.

[checkyourprez]

EPIC

[Burnout18]

great episode, we got part 1 of Jacob and Man in Black's story. We'll prolly get part 2 during the 2 hour finale.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

the episode was decent but more questions than answers yet again and things seemed a bit forced. This seemed like something that should have been two episodes to cover. I'll still have fun with it though. :p

[Waus]

You know what's driving me nuts this season?

The total lack of straight answers in dialogue.

Whenever someone asks a question, for example:

"Where are you going?"
"To the only place I need to be."

"What does it do?"
"It preserves the life of all mankind."

"What are you?"
"I'm not a dead man."

DAMNIT. Just say something like, "I'm going to Hydra Island where Widmore is, I plan on killing him." Say something like "it's an electromagnetic powersource that is strong enough to bend the fabric of reality," or "I'm not totally sure - no one's explained it to me either, but I really believe it's important to guard this thing - oh - and don't go in there, you'll freak."

They sidestep around giving simple matter-of-fact statements constantly, it's like everyone got to the island and was given a pamphlet on "Saying Things that are Vague but not Necessarily False" and another one on "What Can Bamboo do for you? Building Huts and Surviving on Wildlife."

[Bob]

so here's a question: is the smoke monster jacob's brother, or is it just an entity that takes the form of jacob's brother? i'm assuming the brother is dead, on account of his corpse and skeleton, but i thought that the woman pretending to be their mother said that she made it so that they couldn't hurt each other (and also that they couldn't die), so how could he be killed? she also said that going into the cave wouldn't kill you, it would do something worse but...he appears to be dead.

i don't get it. hopefully i'm not supposed to yet.

[checkyourprez]

so here's a question: is the smoke monster jacob's brother, or is it just an entity that takes the form of jacob's brother? i'm assuming the brother is dead, on account of his corpse and skeleton, but i thought that the woman pretending to be their mother said that she made it so that they couldn't hurt each other (and also that they couldn't die), so how could he be killed? she also said that going into the cave wouldn't kill you, it would do something worse but...he appears to be dead.

i don't get it. hopefully i'm not supposed to yet.

i think his body is dead. but now he IS the smoke, but takes his form as jacobs brother, and or anything else it wanted to. until for whatever reason its now stuck in lockes body.

[HAL 9000]

so here's a question: is the smoke monster jacob's brother, or is it just an entity that takes the form of jacob's brother? i'm assuming the brother is dead, on account of his corpse and skeleton, but i thought that the woman pretending to be their mother said that she made it so that they couldn't hurt each other (and also that they couldn't die), so how could he be killed? she also said that going into the cave wouldn't kill you, it would do something worse but...he appears to be dead.

i don't get it. hopefully i'm not supposed to yet.

I think this is the critical issue. One thing worth noting is thhat the smoke monstor appears to be able to take the memories and some personality traits of the persons whose form he has taken.

I wonder if the smoke takes peoples souls and incorporates them into its being. Some peoples souls just wonder around the island, some peoples souls seem to be consumed by the smoke monstor and become part of it (worse than death maybe).

[Guy Incognito]

so here's a question: is the smoke monster jacob's brother, or is it just an entity that takes the form of jacob's brother? i'm assuming the brother is dead, on account of his corpse and skeleton, but i thought that the woman pretending to be their mother said that she made it so that they couldn't hurt each other (and also that they couldn't die), so how could he be killed? she also said that going into the cave wouldn't kill you, it would do something worse but...he appears to be dead.

i don't get it. hopefully i'm not supposed to yet.

whilst some stuff is coming thru i am now of the belief that there are some things we arent going to get to the very bottom of. Not exactly sure what but i think there will be some relatively large questions unanswered. I was mentioning this to a friend and they said they had read a lost blog and someone on there pointed out that there are 6 star wars films ( or three depending on how hardcore you are) and there is no real explanation of the force other than a few vague comments but everyone accepts it and gets on with it.

[Bob]

whilst some stuff is coming thru i am now of the belief that there are some things we arent going to get to the very bottom of. Not exactly sure what but i think there will be some relatively large questions unanswered. I was mentioning this to a friend and they said they had read a lost blog and someone on there pointed out that there are 6 star wars films ( or three depending on how hardcore you are) and there is no real explanation of the force other than a few vague comments but everyone accepts it and gets on with it.

midichlorians :(

[Guy Incognito]

midichlorians :(

i thought somebody might say this.

i will rephrase my statement

In the first three films, save for a little chat in lukes shed with obi wan there is fuck all and nobody bothered questioning it.
In the 2nd lot of 3 films there is a short slapdash explanation by liam neeson but all it really says if memeory serves is that the force is made of midichlorians and that annakin had shitloads of them. there's no real detail or explanation of what midichlorians are.

my point was that its very possible that there could be no further explanation of what the light is or how smokey operates. i hope not but seeing as theres about 120 mins left then i am prepared for a lot of the detail i have been wondering about not to be explained

[HAL 9000]

For me, the whole point of Lost was the fun of trying to solve the mysteries, the increasing realisation that most of the mysteries will not be solved is really annoying.

Maybe they want to leave the way open for fans to demand a 7th series. (n)

[Burnout18]

Hey i guess there was a live lost party or something and they showed tonights episode to like a select audience but the summary. The summary is online if you can't wait. I looked into it and *spoiler* I decided not to read it Can't wait to watch tonight!

[Adam]

Hey i guess there was a live lost party or something and they showed tonights episode to like a select audience but the summary. The summary is online if you can't wait. I looked into it and *spoiler* I decided not to read it Can't wait to watch tonight!

That means there is a torrent somewhere to.

Other day I watched from Everyone loves Hugo until current as I was without web for a while I couldn't. I watched while installing three different OS's so it didn't have my full attention, so catching up on this thread I think I really missed more than I thought.

But I am kinda with HAL - I thought by now more shit would of been explained and if there is only two episodes left (double-feature tho), without a lecture and ppt presentation then I think we aren't gonna get all the answers we need.

[Burnout18]

I think i realized last night that there is no all powerful being who knows everything. We won't get our answers on everything.

BTW i like how things are looking going into the final episode.... and miles rules, he acts like how i would have acted in every horror movie i ever saw. He doesn't give a shit about anything else but surviving.

[Guy Incognito]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10135874.stm(y)(y)

[Guy Incognito]

well the end is nigh.

who the fuck knows. its built up really well. "What they died for" was top class. got some ideas as to whats gonna happen but they will be wrong so bollocks to posting them

[Turchinator]

It Only Ends Once.

[Burnout18]

i like how jacob already made jack the new protector of the island... we all knew that was gonna happen. Good thing that wasn't the big ending of the series. Now there is this 2 hour finale about what happens next.

Its great. Imagine if tony soprano was killed in the first two minutes of the finale episode and we saw his families move on without him... thats what we are gonna see with lost, the island and the original crew (thats left of them) move on without jacob.

[BBboy20]

The End

[gbsuey]

So now the finale's gone out, can someone please give a really simple explaination to what it was all about....i lost it ages ago,really way back, but would like to know what "it" was. P.M me if it's gonna be a spoiler. thankyou

[BBboy20]

I'd like to reevaluate the final scene but I'm afraid my emotions will be unstable again.

[gbsuey]

I'd like to reevaluate the final scene but I'm afraid my emotions will be unstable again.

anger,despair,frustration? just guessing:rolleyes:

[BBboy20]

anger,despair,frustration? just guessing:rolleyes:This: :(

[gbsuey]

This: :(

ok, that's not good for whatever reason it made you frown. i haven't bothered keeping up 'cause i figured it would just be a dissapointment. i did enjoy it though, will most likely rent the box sets

[Tzar]

wow.... just wow.... that's so epic.

i'm still puzzled about the "main" thing that happens at the end. i suppose we can discuss it when more people have watched it/ready to talk about it.

[Burnout18]

i loved it. I was about 99% happy with the end. I haven't surfed the internet looking for reviews yet, this is my first stop, but id imagine a lot of ppl are pissed just because its over.

[Tzar]

yeah i'm emo. not sure what will replace the weekly staple download.

"is Lost downloading?"
"i'm finding a torrent now.."
"HURRY UP!"

but it was a decent ending (if it is how i think it ended...). definately gonna start from S1E1 some time soon.

[Burnout18]

Fuck it, i have had enough thought about it for me to say my little theory.

The bomb did not create an alternative timeline or parallel universe... all it did was release enough "energy" to get jack/sawyer and crew back to the present day. I think the entire on island story was reality.

The entire alt timeline was the afterlife. It was what the main charectors wanted for themselves that they couldn't have/do while they were alive. Desmond had widmore's approval, Ben had his father's affection and was able to sacrifice himself (career) for alex, Sayid was able to protect nadia, Hurley had the resources to take care of people and make them happy and so on and so on.

The afterlife wasn't supposed to be specific to one religion, as jack walks around his father's coffin, look at the stained glass window. I think there is a symbol for each religion or belief system, but for lack of a better term i'll use purgatory cause thats what i am familiar with being a catholic.

I think thier lives in the alt universe were purgatory-like until they all came together in the church. Its not linear so even though kate, hurley and ben lived on long after jack, he was able to see them all. Fitting that for all the bad ben did he was not sent to hell, he just has to wait a little longer to get into "heaven" hence he is still waiting outside the church. Richard was told he would not be forgiven for his sins and would go to hell... he was not in the church either.


As for the on island story... like i said last week, Jacob didn't have all the answers so i mean if he didnt know, i knew we werent going to find everything out. But desmond pulling the plug clearly took the powers away from the island ie richard started to age, smoke monster could be killed, sawyer and crew could leave. Jack putting it back killed himself and closed the chapter on that story in the island's history. Fitting. But i enjoyed the hints that life went on after he died... hurley and ben on the island, kate went on to live long enough to miss jack "for a long time" and Vincent lived. I think it was perfect and i dont understand why so many ppl are pissed.

[A. Chimendez]

Seems to me Battlestar Galactica had a much better ending.

[Adam]

I was disappointed with the ending.

You can almost guarantee with anything hollywood that the boy will get the girl, the hero will save the day, how it was before the beginning is the same after the end. In my opinion, its boring, its predictable its been done to death. At the end of season 5 I was thinking Lost was different. I'd give them some space to add art to their scientific license. I go on about Twin Peaks a lot and it has spawned a lot of excellent series that wouldn't of exist without it - The Wire, Sopranos, Lost but none really push the boat out to actually end it.

I didn't want purgatory. I was raised catholic, I have certain issues with this make-believe place already.

Ok, enough ranting.

[Guy Incognito]

it was always going to be a little flat but i am sat here still puzzled..a bit.

I get the whole purgatory thing and burnout18 you have just made more sense but i still dont get why they had to do it like that. would have been happy with the on island story and a bit less cheese at the end. there was no real need for hurley to get the job or ben to be number two seemed to have no need, i guess it just shows that life went on a bit. I still dont know what to make of it all really

[Echewta]

 Jack passes his protector ship onto Hurley after he decides to revive the Source. (Leadership)
 Everything that happened on the island, happened in real life. No one on the island was dead the whole time - they all survived the initial plane crash, etc. In the final episode, Jack died, Hurley became protector with Ben as his number 2, and everyone else who died on the island or elsewhere, died. Those who died without fulfilling their purpose (i.e. Michael) were doomed to forever be whispers on the island. Those who fulfilled their purpose (Jin&Sun, Sayid, etc.) were allowed to go to the Flash Sideways timeline after they died, where they searched for the truth and were able to right their wrongs, i.e. make the right decisions about their life that they should've made in the first place. Once they saw the truth/their past on the island/remembered it, only then were they ready to "move on" and come to the church, which ultimately led them to heaven. Anna_Lucia_Cortez_(flash-sideways_timeline) fulfilled her purpose on the island. However, being a corrupt police officer in the sideways timeline, apparently made the same mistake she made in during her life time, violating her oath as a police officer by accepting Desmond's bribe event though she was key in getting them out of jail albeit illegally. Thusly she was "not ready" as Desmond said to Hurley and so she was not invited to "move on". Ben Linus chose to stay behind, possibly to be with Daniel Rousseau and her daughter Alex, both still unaware of the past life on the Island.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_End


I liked the ending. Not what I was expecting. An ending without some answers so you still keep thinking about it.

[Adam]

An ending without some answers so you still keep thinking about it.

Some answers? I wanted to know about the numbers, the hatch, Dharma Initiative a great big three toed statue. I suppose we got the monster explained. But if the polar bear turned out to actually be the one who controlled the wheel under the island just for shits and giggles, I would of been happier with such an ending.

I am getting calmer tho, I came to this thread earlier just after watching it, I suppose lostpedia says does actually explain 50% of season 6. Seasons 2-5 you can miss out though when you get the box set, makes for a better ending.

[Bob]

am i the only one who literally remembers nothing about sayid and shannon hooking up? i don't recall that story arc at all for some reason.

also, where's walt?

[nodanaonlyzuul]

I liked it, relatively speaking. I just found it very, very safe, which is very disappointing considering how great the show has been overall.

I found the MIB resolution a bit glossed over and easy, considering all the drama and build up around it. A little anticlimactic.

All in all though, the show itself was a great one. I really want to see the alternate endings. I was too sleepy to stay up for that.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

am i the only one who literally remembers nothing about sayid and shannon hooking up? i don't recall that story arc at all for some reason.

also, where's walt?

I remember that storyline (sayid/shannon). It happened, I promise. :)

Also, the Walt thing, yeah, that was a really big deal that also just got glossed over and let go. Chew's explanation about Michael not fulfilling his purpose makes sense but that doesn't really apply to Walt. I'm really disappointed that they decided to let that storyline just disappear.

[Bob]

I remember that storyline (sayid/shannon). It happened, I promise. :)

Also, the Walt thing, yeah, that was a really big deal that also just got glossed over and let go. Chew's explanation about Michael not fulfilling his purpose makes sense but that doesn't really apply to Walt. I'm really disappointed that they decided to let that storyline just disappear.

perhaps walt never died, ever

[roosta]

I really liked it.

Nice spin on the "everyone's dead" idea that everyone guessed in series one.

Its fitting that a show like that ends confusing. I hate when everything is explained.

[Echewta]

I also think the writers where putting us in Jack's shoes and when his father says that he needed to let go and move on, it was a nice way of telling the fans that as well. You won't always get the answers in life. The show is over. Talk about it one last time with your friends, let go and move on.

[Tzar]

my theory was that everyone died when juliett smashed the hydrogen bomb but because, it seemed, people couldn't leave the island if they're dead, they needed to use the 2004 timeline to.... disappear/move on. i figured kate/frank/richard/miles/sawyer never actually flew away but instead just disappeared into thin air when jack died but ben/hurley/desmond actually remained on the island because you can't escape it in death.


a mate said when they release the season dvd set, they will release some more answers. i do want to hear more about alvar hanso - he really got no air time, really.

[checkyourprez]

I liked it, relatively speaking. I just found it very, very safe, which is very disappointing considering how great the show has been overall.

I found the MIB resolution a bit glossed over and easy, considering all the drama and build up around it. A little anticlimactic.

All in all though, the show itself was a great one. I really want to see the alternate endings. I was too sleepy to stay up for that.

i did but but my buddy said that they were just kinda jokes done by the kimmel show. like one was hurley sitting in a diner and said he knew all the answers and then the screen went blank a la the sopranos. im glad i didnt stay up i woulda been pissed.

and my buddy made a good point that if there really were alternate endings it would cheapen the show. like if they had other endings and they just picked one it wouldnt have been as if they had it planned out all along. and thats what i (and i would assume others) thought made it special.

[BBboy20]

It's quite funny that my previous comment about needing a dead love to remember the other side turned out to be a rather strong indication of the Limbo ending.

[Adam]

I'm alright about the whole thing now. I took it as a story about an island when it was actually a story about some characters - makes me feel a little dumb for not really getting that earlier but oh well. It never really strayed from the lead and his love interests and friendships was the side plot to me when it was actually the island.

[Bob]

the more i think about it, the more the final season kind of bugs me. half the plot was about what happened on the island, and half the plot was about this flash-sideways universe that turned out to be an afterlife limbo and considering that the last season was supposed to be about answering people's questions, that was a pretty lame thing for the writers to do considering that nobody was asking "hey, what happens to the characters after they die?"

really now. i'm still not sure how that polar bear got there or what those numbers had to do with anything or what happened to walt or why desmond was "special" or how a glowy cave in the middle of a bamboo field controlled all life in the universe or how unplugging it for a few hours and then plugging it back in is a relatively inconsequential thing to do or why sending one person down there creates a smoke monster that can impersonate dead people and end all life in the universe if he gets off the island but he can't fly across water or why sending two other people into the cave doesn't really have much effect or who that japanese guy was and what his job was or what those ashes were and how they worked and where the japanese guy got them from and why was there a temple and how long had those people been there and you're gonna spend half the final season on what appears to be an alternative universe only to come out of left field at the last minute and give me this "everyone goes to heaven" business? ahhhhhhhhh bad taste, bad taste in my mouth. somehow the time travel season was less lame than this

[HAL 9000]

Nope, but when they do, I bet they will arrange to meet for coffee and she will offer to 'go dutch'. Also think we may meet Juliet as a doctor trying to save Sun and baby


I think this was my only accurate prediction of the season!

[HAL 9000]

I did not like the ending, but I am interested to see that others did, I guess others were watching for different reasons to me. It seemed to me that failing to address the key mysteries of the show (many set out by Bob above) is such a cop-out, I cant see how one could be pleased with it.

I heard one of the writers hint that there could be an explanatory book released, he may have been joking but that could rescue it (at least a little) for me.

I mean, what was the point of having our heros timetravel onto an outrigger, then have a shoot out and kill a mystery stranger if we dont later find out that they just shot their future selves or their grandparents or something cool like that - we never even saw the outrigger shoot out again! wtf!!!

And when Richard said in 2004 that he saw the Jack, Hurley and co 'die horribly' in the 70s - well where was that scene - what did he mean by that?!?! Nothing fits.

arrrggghhhhhh!

[Tzar]

I mean, what was the point of having our heros timetravel onto an outrigger, then have a shoot out and kill a mystery stranger if we dont later find out that they just shot their future selves or their grandparents or something cool like that - we never even saw the outrigger shoot out again! wtf!!!
wait, what? where is this?

[HAL 9000]

Season 5 episode 4 - http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Little_Prince

[roosta]

the more i think about it, the more the final season kind of bugs me. half the plot was about what happened on the island, and half the plot was about this flash-sideways universe that turned out to be an afterlife limbo and considering that the last season was supposed to be about answering people's questions, that was a pretty lame thing for the writers to do considering that nobody was asking "hey, what happens to the characters after they die?"


I really liked the ending, but this is occuring to me more and more.

The entire sideways world was kind of pointless, it was all illusionary and contributed nothing to the main story.

Now, it DID offer an important function to the writers, it allowed them to give us a proper send off to the characters who had been scattered through out the 6 seasons, and in that way it was a nice tip of the hat. Kind of like the end of Quantum Leap.

So they could give us the island finale, and give us proper closure on the characters, and in the end Lost has always been about the characters, and their relationships rather than the things and events around them

[Guy Incognito]

I, it was a nice way of telling the fans that as well. You won't always get the answers in life. .


This is bang on, i was a little flummoxed yesterday but have managed to chill out about it all and i have decided its a fitting end.


really now. i'm still not sure how that polar bear got there or what those numbers had to do with anything or what happened to walt or why desmond was "special" or how a glowy cave in the middle of a bamboo field controlled all life in the universe or how unplugging it for a few hours and then plugging it back in is a relatively inconsequential thing to do or why sending one person down there creates a smoke monster that can impersonate dead people and end all life in the universe if he gets off the island but he can't fly across water or why sending two other people into the cave doesn't really have much effect or who that japanese guy was and what his job was or what those ashes were and how they worked and where the japanese guy got them from and why was there a temple and how long had those people been there and you're gonna spend half the final season on what appears to be an alternative universe only to come out of left field at the last minute and give me this "everyone goes to heaven" business? ahhhhhhhhh bad taste, bad taste in my mouth. somehow the time travel season was less lame than this

look they made a good story and pulled everyone in using various devices like the ones above and they explained some of it and did a very nice job. if they had made a program explaining every little bit it would have been boring as hell, all flashbacks and scientific explanations.

And will everyone please get over Walt. FFS. he went back home, locke found him decided he had another life and thought it best to leave him be. why cant anyone get over that.

[Waus]

I think what everyone is upset about is that the creators tried to shift the show's supposed focus in the last season. They tried to make the case that this was a drama, when the fans thought it was a sci-fi thriller.

If I wanted a drama, I would've watched something else.

[Guy Incognito]

I think what everyone is upset about is that the creators tried to shift the show's supposed focus in the last season. They tried to make the case that this was a drama, when the fans thought it was a sci-fi thriller.

If I wanted a drama, I would've watched something else.

yeah i see the point but a sci fi thriller should still have dramatics, i have always struggled to desrcibe it to people who dont watch and i thought it hard to pigeonhole. I settled on mystery! i think if i am honest i was looking for a more technical explanation about some things but enjoyed the finale all the same.

[Burnout18]

The entire sideways world was kind of pointless, it was all illusionary and contributed nothing to the main story.

Now, it DID offer an important function to the writers, it allowed them to give us a proper send off to the characters who had been scattered through out the 6 seasons, and in that way it was a nice tip of the hat. Kind of like the end of Quantum Leap.


I agree, the sideways reality was all just so they could come together in the church for one moment at the end. Wierd emotional response though, seeing Jack dying, but knowing his spirit is happy somewhere else in the universe.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

yeah i see the point but a sci fi thriller should still have dramatics, i have always struggled to desrcibe it to people who dont watch and i thought it hard to pigeonhole. I settled on mystery! i think if i am honest i was looking for a more technical explanation about some things but enjoyed the finale all the same.

fine, sci fi thriller should still have dramatics. But get rid of the sci fi ALL TOGETHER in the FINALE?

That's a little ridiculous. Sure, don't explain everything, but throw the scifi fans a bone for sticking with the show.

Unless you count Christianity as Sci Fi. Although I guess I can say that's part of the mythology of the show but still.

Cop. Out.

[Adam]

I put my shows and movies in genre order. Lost is under Sci-fi. The final episodes aren't yet filed.

[Guy Incognito]

fine, sci fi thriller should still have dramatics. But get rid of the sci fi ALL TOGETHER in the FINALE?

That's a little ridiculous. Sure, don't explain everything, but throw the scifi fans a bone for sticking with the show.

Unless you count Christianity as Sci Fi. Although I guess I can say that's part of the mythology of the show but still.

Cop. Out.

stuff like the numbers was never going to get fully explained, i dont see what sci fi had to be explained in the finale. there was a big electromagnetic ball under the island, kinda explained, they turned it off, killed flocke, turned it back on again, jack dies. done. move on.

[Guy Incognito]

although i will say this: the creators have always said there was a definite end and despite this being obvious i think the temptation to tweak and dabble may have been too much, not sure it was 100% the end they first visualised. but it was good, it makes sense that plenty of stuff wasnt explained, a lot of it when you think about it doesnt need detailing again, it was enough that it kept you watching.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

stuff like the numbers was never going to get fully explained, i dont see what sci fi had to be explained in the finale.

I never said they should explain the numbers. However, let's say sure, don't explain any of the scifi...

But only include about 2%, barely, of sci fi in the entire episode of the finale? After the big build up leading to the finale? Not to mention the building up the MIB being such a big deal, then it was kinda "oop okay now he's dead that took about 2 seconds".

Wah wah wah.

I'm not saying I hated the finale but for any fans that really loved the sci fi, they basically shit on them with that finale.

And if you don't get why those particular people would dislike the finale, well, perhaps you should move on from feeling bothered by them. Because you don't get it (which isn't an insult, but really, you don't, so forget it, right?).

[nodanaonlyzuul]

p.s. a funny alternative ending for Lost on geekologie.
(http://www.geekologie.com/2010/05/how_lost_really_should_have_en.php?utm_source=twit terfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[Adam]

p.s. a funny alternative ending for Lost on geekologie.
(http://www.geekologie.com/2010/05/how_lost_really_should_have_en.php?utm_source=twit terfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

I honestly would of loved that and would of forgiven the ending if that happened.

[Burnout18]

Even if you hate the scene at the end in the church, focus on what happened on island.

Sawyer got off the island... he was so hell bent the whole series on leaving and he finally made it. Kate came back to get Claire because of aaron, she succeeded. Frank (who somehow lives through the sub blast) made it back, Richard decided he lived long enough and left. And good for Miles, he was like al neri making it through all three godfathers.

Jack sacrificed himself, Desmond is gonna be ok and Hurley is the new protector with Ben as his number two. That in itself was satisfying. Fake Locke had a funny line and jacob making the obvious choice, and then BAM series ends with hurley as the new jacob. And Ben saves hurley's life and as a reward he gets to stay on as #2 for the rest of his life.

[Guy Incognito]

. And Ben saves hurley's life and as a reward he gets to stay on as #2 for the rest of his life.

when? i cant remember even though it was three days ago

[Guy Incognito]

I never said they should explain the numbers. However, let's say sure, don't explain any of the scifi...

But only include about 2%, barely, of sci fi in the entire episode of the finale? After the big build up leading to the finale? Not to mention the building up the MIB being such a big deal, then it was kinda "oop okay now he's dead that took about 2 seconds".

Wah wah wah.

I'm not saying I hated the finale but for any fans that really loved the sci fi, they basically shit on them with that finale.

And if you don't get why those particular people would dislike the finale, well, perhaps you should move on from feeling bothered by them. Because you don't get it (which isn't an insult, but really, you don't, so forget it, right?).

i dont mean to be confrontational or appear stupid but exactly what scifi are you referring to. For me it was never about sci-fi. The themes were trust, strength of someones word, live together die alone etc. IT was a big ball of energy and there were some very old mythical types who could do impossible things. I genuinely dont understand what you were looking for. The end was always about jack v locke and they had a big fight and the circumstances made it quick because they both realised they had to act fast if they were to achieve their goals.

[Burnout18]

when? i cant remember even though it was three days ago

When that tree fell, he pushed hugo out the way. Sawyer and Hurley then struggle to get the tree off of him.

Come to think of it, ppl want answers to questions how about this: Why was the tree so heavy Sawyer and hurley couldn't make it budge but next we see Ben he was walking around perfectly fine? And how did they get it off?

[Guy Incognito]

When that tree fell, he pushed hugo out the way. Sawyer and Hurley then struggle to get the tree off of him.

Come to think of it, ppl want answers to questions how about this: Why was the tree so heavy Sawyer and hurley couldn't make it budge but next we see Ben he was walking around perfectly fine? And how did they get it off?

sawyer got a big stick out and prized the tree off him

[Guy Incognito]

one thing that did piss me off a bit was that although forgiveness was a bit of a theme, i didnt exactly relate to the way kate hurley and sawyer all tried to rescue ben from the tree, the amount of bad stuff, the fact he was with locke, i kinda expected at least one of them to leave him there, none of those ever really bonded with him or trusted him

[Burnout18]

One thing i was thinking, who the fuck appeared to the young man in black as his mother?

What if The black smoke wasn't jacobs brother, but the whole time it was another entity just in MIB's body. The entity jumped from jacobs mom, to MIB to Richard's wife (who's body was never on island), to Christian to whoever else throughout series and locke at the end. Is that possible or is everyone happy with the smoke being jacobs brother?

[HAL 9000]

i dont mean to be confrontational or appear stupid but exactly what scifi are you referring to. For me it was never about sci-fi. The themes were trust, strength of someones word, live together die alone etc. IT was a big ball of energy and there were some very old mythical types who could do impossible things. I genuinely dont understand what you were looking for. The end was always about jack v locke and they had a big fight and the circumstances made it quick because they both realised they had to act fast if they were to achieve their goals.

To me the key themes were determinism vs free will (what happened happened) and the nature of the island. The sci-fi elements were the time travel and the purpose/history/origin of the island and the various entities that lived on it or became special when on it.

I actually was not that bothered by the drama elements -it would not have bothered me in the slightest if Flocke had ended up winning for example or if none of the characters met each other in heavan. As long as the key mysteries were wrapped up in a satisfying way (or even at all)

[Bob]

also - how come in the afterlife, kate, sawyer, claire and hurley got to stay relatively young and in shape (well, not hurley) despite presumably living a long life and dying of old age but rose, bernard, and christian had to stay old? they got a raw deal.

[Guy Incognito]

also - how come in the afterlife, kate, sawyer, claire and hurley got to stay relatively young and in shape (well, not hurley) despite presumably living a long life and dying of old age but rose, bernard, and christian had to stay old? they got a raw deal.

err they were pretty old when the plane crashed

[Bob]

err they were pretty old when the plane crashed

yeah but a plane crash is when the clock starts for how old you're going to be when you go to the afterlife? that's quite arbitrary

[Guy Incognito]

yeah but a plane crash is when the clock starts for how old you're going to be when you go to the afterlife? that's quite arbitrary

dude did you watch this series or what? The plane crash and the time on the island was the most important part of these peoples lives, its what gave them purpose, before that they were all lost and alone, unhappy, or ill. The island made most of them better people and the alt reality was all based round the plane crash.

[Bob]

i'm just saying, if i'm going to heaven i'm going as a 22 year old

[Burnout18]

Bob- i think they looked how they did because thats how jack knew them... that last scene was through jack's eyes.... it was his "heaven."

Think about it, wtf did his dad do for the island? Nothing. He was dead before the whole saga started. But he was there cause his dad was,well, his dad and very important to him. Also poor miles wasn't there. but maybe if that was "heaven" through sawyer's eyes he would have been. Miles and Lafleur were buddies for a few years in the 1970's. You would think Sawyer would have a spot for him.

Maybe that explains why a few other charectors werent there.

[Guy Incognito]

i'm just saying, if i'm going to heaven i'm going as a 22 year old

fairly sure thats vanity dude. hellbound

[BBboy20]

The insane amount of unanswered questions. (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291)

[kaiser soze]

I just started watching this on Netflix - pretty suspenseful

the impression I'm getting is that some of the stuff is quite random and the writers know it will eventually work it's way through or they had some highly imaginative writers who knew where this was going from the get-go

[Adam]

Watching Season 6 or the whole thing? If the latter, stop at 5 for your own sanity.

[HAL 9000]

the writers know it will eventually work it's way through or they had some highly imaginative writers who knew where this was going from the get-go

or so you would think......

[kaiser soze]

Watching Season 6 or the whole thing? If the latter, stop at 5 for your own sanity.

starting from the beginning - still in season one, everything seems sorta normal except the fact that everyone is a suspect of some sort :eek:

[Adam]

No spoilers but just to warn, those that show dismay at Lost are really talking about the last season.

Its a great story, the beginning, the middle are awesome and addictive, so enjoy them!

[kaiser soze]

oh snap, dynamite blew up a lesser character!!!

I was expecting something, but jumped from the explosion in my headphones

haha