yeahwho
02-25-2010, 08:47 PM
I read the papers daily, I really enjoy the Ed/Op page of the NYTimes more for the comments than the actual editorials, today was one of those days that comes along once, maybe twice a year.... after reading this excellent editorial,
The Torture Lawyers (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/opinion/25thur1.html)...
I went to the comments section like I always do and the very first comment (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/opinion/25thur1.html?sort=recommended) I read was one of those reminders of why so many millions of US citizens feel completely fucking ripped off.
I'll copy and paste the comment below for those who do not want to click on links,
I'm an attorney. I know the difference between an advocate and an advisor. Many attorneys wear multiple hats simultaneously, including those of the advocate and the advisor. But not at the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, where John Yoo and Jay Bybee worked. It is unethical for a lawyer acting as an advisor to surrender his or her independent judgment when advising his or her client.
Both Yoo and Bybee were law professors before they ever came to work at the Office of Legal Counsel. They knew the difference between an advocate and an advisor and knew that the delegated duty they fulfilled on behalf of the U.S. Attorney General was limited by federal statute to that of an advisor. They also had to know they were giving “cover” for the CIA and the U.S. military to engage in torture and other illegal, less-than-torture, abuses against prisoners. The whole body of federal law on the subject prohibited what they approved. Yoo and Bybee themselves engaged in a torture conspiracy, contrary to 23 U.S.C. , Sections 2340 and 2340A. They are war criminals.
David Margolis, with his long career at the U.S. Department of Justice, knows all this too. His 69 page reversal of the recommendations from the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility is a knowing whitewash of illegal and unethical behavior by John Yoo and Jay Bybee.
And yes, I know Yoo, Bybee and Margolis can sue me or file bar association grievances against me if they dare. Let’s see if the attorney disciplinary arms of several jurisdictions are willing to slap me down when they are too timid to sanction obvious criminals such as Yoo and Bybee.
Florida Bar Number 167983, Nick Jackson
The Torture Lawyers (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/opinion/25thur1.html)...
I went to the comments section like I always do and the very first comment (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/opinion/25thur1.html?sort=recommended) I read was one of those reminders of why so many millions of US citizens feel completely fucking ripped off.
I'll copy and paste the comment below for those who do not want to click on links,
I'm an attorney. I know the difference between an advocate and an advisor. Many attorneys wear multiple hats simultaneously, including those of the advocate and the advisor. But not at the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, where John Yoo and Jay Bybee worked. It is unethical for a lawyer acting as an advisor to surrender his or her independent judgment when advising his or her client.
Both Yoo and Bybee were law professors before they ever came to work at the Office of Legal Counsel. They knew the difference between an advocate and an advisor and knew that the delegated duty they fulfilled on behalf of the U.S. Attorney General was limited by federal statute to that of an advisor. They also had to know they were giving “cover” for the CIA and the U.S. military to engage in torture and other illegal, less-than-torture, abuses against prisoners. The whole body of federal law on the subject prohibited what they approved. Yoo and Bybee themselves engaged in a torture conspiracy, contrary to 23 U.S.C. , Sections 2340 and 2340A. They are war criminals.
David Margolis, with his long career at the U.S. Department of Justice, knows all this too. His 69 page reversal of the recommendations from the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility is a knowing whitewash of illegal and unethical behavior by John Yoo and Jay Bybee.
And yes, I know Yoo, Bybee and Margolis can sue me or file bar association grievances against me if they dare. Let’s see if the attorney disciplinary arms of several jurisdictions are willing to slap me down when they are too timid to sanction obvious criminals such as Yoo and Bybee.
Florida Bar Number 167983, Nick Jackson